Talk:West Yorkshire

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original white paper had Knaresborough and Harrogate being part of the West Yorkshire county, in the same district as Leeds.

Rothwell was proposed to move from Leeds -> Wakefield

a government amendment kept Kearby with Netherby, Sicklinghall and Weeton in North Yorkshire rather than in Leeds district

194.66.226.95 18:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Capital?
As I understand it, the capital (i.e. the location of the government of the county) was always Wakefield, not Leeds. Leeds was only ever the largest city and commercial heart. 77.97.137.23 20:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yea, thats true, County Hall is on Wood Street in Wakefield. -- Chris as I am Chris 10:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Wakefield is not the capital of West Yorkshire. It was the county town of the West Riding of Yorkshire (which hasn't existed since 1974). As far as I am aware, West Yorkshire has no official county town.Mtaylor848 (talk) 12:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you please help expand West Yorkshire Derby?
I am calling upon all users with knowledge on the West Yorkshire Derby(s) so that the article can be expanded. Any help or co-operation would be much appreciated. Regards IJA (talk) 14:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Flag
I've reverted the addition of a "Flag of West Yorkshire" (File:Flag of West Yorkshire.svg), as the file description page makes it clear that it's the former flag of the county council, abolished 1986, rather than of the county as a whole - and it's totally unsourced, obscure, unfamiliar to long-standing local resident, etc. It doesn't improve this article. Pam D  15:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Petty, unnecessary editing. Every other county has a flag or arms of some type, why not just leave it if it offers some heraldic representation. It was never revoked after all. - H (talk) 19:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Apart from your comment being 16 months late,;and that Pam was right in removing the flag, which was the county 'Council 'insignia, not the county flag and therefore neither petty nor unnecessary editing. You are correct in pointing out that that ther current Official County flag should be on the article. That will shortly be corrected. Richard Harvey (talk) 11:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Urban Area Merge proposal
The area covers pretty much the already existing West Yorkshire county with a few villages and towns missing. All fall within Kirklees, Calderdale, City of Bradford, City of Leeds and City of Wakefield. No notable settlements outside West Yorkshire and should be merged into a tab on the wider article. Plus it only uses ONS Data and census. Maybe more can be found to give it stronger notability it exists and isn't just an ons term? RailwayJG (talk) 01:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Disagree with merger - The Urban area and the county are two distinct things. The built-up area/urban area pre-dates the county and is the reason it was created in the first place. I think having both articles is ok. Eopsid (talk) 21:13, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose merger: the BUA seems to be a reliably sourced and complicatedly defined entity, distinct from the county although a subset of it, and all this information would be unwieldy as a section within the county article. No reason to merge. Pam  D  22:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose They are 2 different areas so should be separate articles. It is much easier for people to read an article on the term they are interested in rather than have to disentangle it from part of another article. Keith D (talk) 23:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

The article is pretty much West Yorkshire. It seems silly to have one for this when the county contains three cities. And they are all different from a wider city region. For example West Midlands County can pass as it covers Birmingham a long established city and Coventry. Wolverhampton is a newish city but would have been a town when the county was formed. Another is Greater Manchester. There's two cities Manchester and Salford. The rest are towns and suburbs. The Urban Area at least covers areas like Wilmslow Glossop and Hadfield which are in Cheshire and Derbyshire. These are notable as they are in other counties. But West Yorkshire Urban Area is all the same as the county. Greater Manchester crosses former county boundaries with Cheshire (Stockport, Altrincham, Hyde etc), Lancashire (Oldham, Rochdale, Sale etc) and part of West Riding of Yorkshire (Littlebrough could be wrong) but this gives it good enough stead for an urban area as Manchester is a major city and has a long established built up area. West Midlands County crosses historical boundaries of Staffordshire (Wolverhampton, Walsall, West Bromwich etc), Warwickshire (Sutton Coldfield, Solihull, Coventry, Birmingham etc) and Worcestershire (Dudley, Stourbridge, Halesowen etc) so the county crosses three historic counties. That put it in stead for an urban area as Birmingham is the second city and area includes parts of Lichfield District, South Staffordshire, Cannock Chase, North Warwickshire and Worcestershire. These would work for an urban area for both modern and historic reasons. But West Yorkshire Urban area is pretty much part of former West Riding of Yorkshire. If there was a significant town like Harrogate or Selby in the urban area then I could see it with a stronger stance but this is already repeating what is in the West Yorkshire Article. Place names population history etc... RailwayJG (talk) 09:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

existence
I contend that the metropolitan counties no longer exist and should therefore be written about in the past tense. This is supported by the fact that this page's web-link isn't to the (non-existent) WYMC but to the WY combined authority which is more a quango than a council. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.149.241.58 (talk) 15:09, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course they exist. Even though the boroughs are effectively unitary since all governance powers were given to the district councils, WY still exists as an entity for police/fire/lieutenancy etc, and it certainly isn't a non-metropolitan county. The county council was abolished but WYCA takes on a kind of equivalent position these days. I also find combined authority to be a more precise term than quango. Rcsprinter123   (spout)  01:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox images
Rather than 5 cityscapes, I suggest that the information image should show the diversity of the county. The recent version was better, though perhaps an image like the lead of Stoodley Pike should be included to show wide open spaces. Pam D  05:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Note also that the choice of first image is important as the reader on a mobile sees this as the header image of the article, so the county is represented by Bradford. Pam  D  05:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @PamD, these images are kinda referenced at a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography if you were unaware. But 5 cityscapes do lack diversity. Regards  Dank Jae  21:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @DankJae Thanks, yes, I'll be there when not on phone! Pam  D  22:14, 29 June 2023 (UTC)