Talk:Western capercaillie

Spelling
Capercaillie seems to be an Americanism. OED accepts capercailye (firstly) and capercailzie (secondly, a little obsolete). This is a Eurasian bird. I let you conclude. --Ekindedeoglu (talk) 21:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The first form is almost universal now, unlikely to be an Americanism, since they don't have the bird. Capercaillie is standard English spelling, whereas the variants with "y" or "z" are Scots, attempting to show the obsolete yogh - as in the name Menzies pronounced Mingus jimfbleak (talk) 05:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Conservation status
"Least concern"? Really? Flapdragon (talk) 10:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * yes, the IUCN is a global assessment, and this species has a population of 1.5 - 2 million in Europe alone. Jimfbleak (talk) 10:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Capercaillies
capercaillies are breeding by 2-3 years of age. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.10.63.14 (talk) 08:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

67= Scottish Gaelic? == Is there any reason to give the Scottish Gaelic version of the name? The capercaillie is much more common in Germany, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russian than in Scotland, and we don't give its German, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish or Russian names.Jeppiz (talk) 13:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, Wikipedia is not a multilingual dictionary, with the possible exception of endemics, non-English names should be avoided  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm am going to assume these comments were made in ignorance rather than being motivated by an anti Gaelic POV, but "Capercaillie" is ENGLISH and furthermore it is the common ENGLISH speakers name for this bird. All English speakers in the UK refer to this creature by the name "Capercaillie", furthermore "Wood Grouse" or "Heather Cock" are simply not in use. Because the name "Capercaillie" has a Gaelic origin is NOT a justifiable reason to impose a "new" name for the creature that is simply not in use. Any Gaelic speaker will tell you that "Capercaillie" is the anglofication of the real Gaelic "CAPULL-COILLE" (ref. Page 167 of DWELLY'S ILLUSTRATED GAELIC DICTIONARY)or possibly CABAR-COILLE, depending in which part of the Gaelic Highlands you are in as there are many regional variations. By way of analogy the word "CLAYMORE", the anglofication of the Gaelic words "claidheamh mor", is in common useage amongst English speakers and it has a Wiki page to proove it. Therefore leave "Capercaillie" alone, it is the correct English speakers terminology, irrespective of its Gaelic etymology. Incidentally Capull-Coille does not mean "Horse of the Woods" The Gaelic word for horse is "Each". Its likely a corruption or phonetic drift of CABAN-COILLE which is "Capon of the Woods" (See ARMSTRONG'S Gaelic Dictionary of 1825). Also "Cabar" is a common Gaelic colloquialism regularly applied to any big and impressive animal or person, as in "Cabar-Feidh" which means "the impressive part of the stag" (the Red Deer's Antlers). Therefore many Gaelic speakers say "Cabar-Coille" (Impressive (bird) of the Woods), which obviously sounds very much closer to the current English "Capercaillie".

Bersagliere
mention the role of Capercaillie feathers in Italian Bersagliere uniforms Yama Plos   talk  01:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Diet?

 * At the start of the section Western capercaillie, which of the first 2 paragraphs is true? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:21, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Clearly there is more work to be done on this section, and a couple of citations would be helpful. Apart from anything else, the berry in question is not the American blueberry Vaccinium cyanococcus but the European bilberry Vaccinium myrtillus (Scottish = "blaeberry"). To complicate matters further, there is apparently also a Mediterranean population with a very different diet, due to the rarity of bilberries there.Darorcilmir (talk) 23:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Cultural reference section?
I'm wondering if that section isn't somewhat off-topic? The description of emotions going on in the mind of a fiction character have very little to do with the species described in this page, and the factual description expected from an encyclopedia... It might be worth removing or at least shortening it...

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Template:IUCN broken?
This link doesn't work:

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--Espoo (talk) 16:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yup, IUCN moved to a new site setup and address structure at the beginning of the year, and most of the templated references are now broken. Those using a variant of "cite journal" still work (as IUCN redirects from plain URL of the old site to the new site), but not the special IUCN templates. People are replacing them as they are found. Sorted here. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

In France
Where I live in France, there are these birds, I know this because I can see them in my garden and, oftentimes, in the woods behind my garden. But according to the map on this document, they are NOT found in my part of France. Perhaps the map needs changing? I live in the Limousin. Central France. 92.184.108.100 (talk) 14:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Are you miring wiki
We should get my own Wikipedia bro 😎 2600:1016:B014:A6E7:38ED:3F44:9375:80FF (talk) 15:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)