Talk:White Swiss Shepherd Dog

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Requested move 3 March 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 13:59, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Berger Blanc Suisse → White Swiss Shepherd Dog – per WP:USEENGLISH, White Swiss Shepherd is the English language name used by all the kennel clubs and sources. Cavalryman (talk) 11:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - this is the English-speaking Wikipedia.  William Harris Canis lupis track.svg talk Canis lupis track.svg 08:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to White Swiss Shepherd Dog, the breed name in every single published breed standard in English.  A "white Swiss shepherd" is a Caucasian sheepherder from Switzerland.  The article presently at German Shepherd should move to German Shepherd Dog for the same reason.  See also Talk:Brown Caucasian cattle, Talk:Australian White sheep, Talk:Algerian Arab sheep, Talk:British White cattle, Talk:Flemish Giant rabbit, Talk:West African Dwarf goat: in every single case in which we have addressed an animal breed name that could possibly be confused with a population or occupation or other description of humans, we have moved the breed article. Here, the natural disambiguation is actually already part of the formal breed name (thus "Dog", not a Wikipedia-added "dog" as a natural disambiguator outside the proper name).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support SMcCandlish’s alternative, have amended above. Courtesy ping to . Cavalryman (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC).
 * Agreed!  William Harris Canis lupis track.svg talk Canis lupis track.svg 05:51, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


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Mate Hegedus can you please explain why you think your image is better? ,,  Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  13:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

The previous dog has wet fur in the picture. The previous dog is either standing in a hole or has some growth problems in their front legs. White Swiss Shepherds have essentially the same pose as German Shepherds: their front legs/torso are much higher up than their rear legs. The new dog is from an award winning family, well fed and with dry, brushed fur. A more accurate representation.
 * ,, , : in the hope of putting an end to the edit-warring here, I took a different image from Category:Berger Blanc Suisse; that hasn't really worked, so some further input is probably needed – it was not in any way intended to be a definitive choice. In my opinion neither of the previous two images is anywhere near the best in that category; others that seem to me to be both representative and of reasonable quality are Sheba of White Starlight (2 Jahre alt).JPG and Berger blanc suisse3.jpg. Any thoughts? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Given that one of the editors involved has clearly broken Wikipedia's Three Revert Rule WP:3RR and would be facing a block, I could take steps to bring the edit warring to a close right now. I believe that Facebook is the place to be hosting pictures of owners' dogs, unless the shot is outstanding enough to be included here; that one was not. I agree that neither of the previous pictures are very good, but will leave others to make the final decision on selection on the new one. William Harris (talk) 21:39, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed,, but he/she is a new editor and may not have been aware of our edit-warring policies and practices. I've left a warning and explanation on her/his talk-page; if there had already been such a warning there and it had been ignored, I'd have blocked the editor for a short time. That might have deferred, but would not necessarily have resolved, the problem. The new editor has a valid point – the image previously in the article was pretty weird, wasn't it? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Have compiled a few below:

My vote in preferential order is: 4, 6, 3, 1, 2, 5. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 22:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC).

I agree with Cavalryman here. 4 seems to be the nicest image of the bunch Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  05:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)