Talk:Wii/Archive 1

About the name
Nintendo Revolution is still a code name, so i changed the first sentence --Highwind 02:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Next Nintendo console is currently called N5. There's no hint it will be called GameCube 2

There's also a rumor that the name will be shortened to "Nintendo Revo," which I'm not a huge fan of. :( &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Asarkees (talk • contribs).

Moved atricle
I moved the article because it is very unlikely that the next console will be called "GameCube 2"
 * Should this article now be moved to Nintendo 21? BrokenSegue 21:15, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Why? Theres absolutely no official news on the name and Nintendo still refers to it as Revolution. Wait for something official. E3 isn't that far away. K1Bond007 22:21, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

Wait until TGS (tokyo game show) to change any of the name stuff, its imperative that N release all the juicy details about the system so we should know for sure then, no need to change it till then **EDIT: Recently read the TGS company list of who is gonna be there for 05 and nintendo, as usual, is not on it. Do not worry about this, nintendo does not usually show up at this event with anything new or at all. N will probably show Revolution at the Nintendo Space event thingy.**EDIT AGAIN: I WAS WRONG!! again....><68.153.29.23 20:14, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Edits
I have created a rumors section, and added the hardware specs to it. The purpose of this was clarification, as well as adding room for expansion. Feel free to add rumors from other (credible, not your own speculation) sources, under new subheadings.

Rumors
I think it's safe to say the first two rumors in the section are pretty much BS. If Microsoft and Nintendo were cooperating together you would have heard something by now. That and the rumor was over a year ago. At this point it seems rather outlandish. K1Bond007 06:01, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Agreed, but I suggest holding off until E3 (when the next-gen platforms will no doubt be unveiled) before nixing the rumours en masse. Sockatume 17:46, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Hasn't this been cleared up at the GDC? Do we really need to wait for E3? Jacoplane 04:05, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, if there's a proper release at E3, we could simply wipe all the rumours off the article in a one-er and rewrite it based on the facts. You could get away with deleting those first two rumours now, but there's still the incredibly distant chance they're true. Sockatume 14:35, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Wait a second!!! Wait a second!!! What is p with the author of the Revolution! It is very unlikely that Halo will ever be on the Revolution and nor was it one of Nintendo's franchises. Maybe Nintendo will release a kid-teen game with similar Halo elements ( Maybe a Metriod Game), but never in a million years will Microsoft sell their best/only exlusive selling Franchise to NIntendo. I hope Nintendo does though make a game that will challange the likes of the Halo series and give Microsoft a run for their money.[Missingno.] &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.101.116.234 (talk &bull; contribs).

New York Times article
I found a NYTimes' article about Xbox 360 and has some information about the upcoming Nintendo video game system. 


 * Perrin Kaplan, Nintendo's vice president for corporate affairs, said Nintendo GameCube's successor would be "very, very sleek." She described it as horizontal and no taller than a stack of three DVD cases.


 * Unlike Nintendo GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play Nintendo GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

Oh well, just a couple of more days until the big video game expo opens to confirm this. --Chill Pill Bill 16:20, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Here is the Nintendo article, which states it will use double-layer DVD's and can stand either horizontally or vertical. Thunderbrand 21:37, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Huh...the news item was recently changed to "12 cm optical dics". Oh well... Thunderbrand 00:40, May 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, thanks for that, I didn't realise Nintendo had made an actual release.Sockatume 01:52, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

A/B buttons
Why would the Nintendo Revolution not use the A/B buttons introduced on NES in the 80's? Nintendo should stick to the A/B buttons standard so the system can be capable of re-releasing NES games in multipacks for future game titles like Midway Arcade Treasures 2 did. --SuperDude 01:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit bemused about the whole thing myself. Either they've got a really major change in mind for their console's input, or they're doing something incredibly boring lik ditching letters in favour of colours on the buttons. Not long to wait, hopefully, until we find out what's going on. Sockatume 13:52, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, the rumors concerning a touchscreen claimed the 'buttons' like a and b could be configured on the touchscreen. Like, moved in position or changed in size. Juan Ponderas 14:30, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * If they are planning to allow the system to emulate the nes snes, 64 and cube then they would either need a readily modified controller with all the same buttons as previous systems or they would need a controller with lcd touch screens to allow the games to change the controls to whatever system it is using and have it look and feel the same, only problem is the Z button on cube and 64, they would need to have it moved to a good place in between. But since the system and controller could be using anything from gyration to holographic projection, this is all opinion.

Helmet?
Is it a helmet? Well, that's what I saw on the video link. • Thorpe • 15:40, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * It's a confirmed fake, by a rather creative individual called Pablo Belmonte. You can find his site here, and he's hosting various "teaser" promos for the console to boot.Sockatume 16:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Name
Damn, this name thing is messy. I'm trying to move the name to Nintendo Revolution (it has been confirmed ), but I turned it all into a big mess. Could someone straighten this out? Thanks. EliasAlucard|Talk 19:04, 17 May, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Satoru Iwata in press conference confirmed just now, Nintendo Revolution is the final name. --Mateusc 17:22, 17 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Heh...looks like someone moved it to GC2. Thunderbrand 17:23, May 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * Damn.. this is a mess. Edit this page only. The page will be moved by an admin soon. K1Bond007 17:35, May 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * We need to switch the name for this. GC2??? It's called the Nintendo Revolution.


 * It will be moved K1Bond007 17:40, May 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * There we go. K1Bond007 18:37, May 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * Nintendo says the Revolution is not the final name of the system. Although the Nintendo DS was the code-name for it, but i'd thought i would mention it. Click here. Thunderbrand 02:14, May 20, 2005 (UTC)


 * Good find, although we should have known since the pictures they released are still prototypes and not the final design. Said to be smaller. I wonder if that "Nexus" rumor was anything. Oh well. I suppose we'll find out later in the year. K1Bond007 02:35, May 20, 2005 (UTC)


 * Nintendo may just keep the name of their Next gen console because it is really a revolution, but if they change it it must be something that fits the system like Nexus or The Link to the Past (pun intended I just had to) something or other, but It will ave a name with out a doubt. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.101.116.234 (talk &bull; contribs).

Backwards compatability
Just a minor thing to clear up. In the press releases, they mention that they can play all the "nintendo games from the past twenty years". The nintendo part makes it seem like it will be only first and second party games that will be downloadable.

So, does anyone know for 100% sure?--Havermayer 02:34, 21 May 2005 (UTC)


 * At the Game Developers Conference 2005 Mr. Iwata confirmed that the Revolution will be backward compatible (as in accepting Nintendo GameCube discs) with the Nintendo Nintendo GameCube. []80.57.84.149 14:45, 21 May 2005 (UTC)


 * GCN games can be loaded in via the optical drive and older games can be downloaded. CyberSkull 02:24, 2005 May 26 (UTC)


 * To actually answer your question, Miyamoto-san said in this interview with IGN that they are in discussions with third-parties to feature their classics in addition to Nintendo's own for download. Personally, I'm hoping they'll make a deal with Square-Enix so that I can finally play Super Mario RPG legally. -Luigi2 00:57, May 27, 2005 (UTC)


 * One would think that nintendo would see the huge advantage in allowing 3rd party like SE and sega (sunsoft released) games on there download system. However if anyone had any doubt, its not a free download system you will have to pay for the games you download, nintendo did say some games would come preloaded but other than that its a buy and play system, not the best idea imho.


 * Nintendo said that they would make some games available when you purchase a Revolution game, like if you buy Zelda, you could maybe get Zelda for NES for free. I think the service will be very much like iTunes. Seeing the relationship Nintendo has with Sega now, I see it as a posibility that Sega games will be available for download via the Revolution system. I'm sure we'll get to know more this fall.


 * Btw, Super Mario RPG is owned by Nintendo, not Square-Enix. They just made the game. Havok 15:31, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * But many characters in SMRPG are owned by Square Enix. -- A Link to the Past 06:25, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Nintendo may actualy make the del even better. Nintendo could fix up it's old games with better graphics, online, and more features. Also Nintendo might get all or most of the old gaming companies (Atari, Sega, Namco, Square Enix, and maybe EA) on their side and allow you to download their old games. It is wishful thinking, but it can happen. [ MIssingno.] &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.101.116.234 (talk &bull; contribs).

Name and Debunked Controller Rumor
It's very unlikely the new system will be called "Nintendo GameCube 2", as the system is not shaped like a cube.

Also, Nintendo has stated that they will *not* include a second screen on the controller or system, so that kills the posibility of the controller being one big touch screen, unless it's just a touch pad. I know there was an actual statement about this, issued from Iwata if I remember correctly, but I can't seem to find it. Ironically, there seems to be several dozens of websites believing the touch-screen rumor for every one page containing the statement from Iwata.

I've changed the touch-screen rumor info into past-tense, and once I found the quote from Iwata, I added that in as proof that the Revolution's controller will not be a touch-screen. In addition to that, I added some speculation about Nintendo GameCube controller relations with the Revolution. I found the following info here, on IGN's Revolution FAQ.

''Q: Will Revolution feature screens on the console or the controller?

A: No. At a June 2004 analyst briefing in Japan, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said, "We have no intention of making a two-screen console akin to the [Nintendo] DS."''


 * Are we sure that Revolution has been adopted as the official name? I remember one of the guys at the E3 press conference saying something along the lines of "We're sure you've got your own ideas for the name, and we'd love to hear them". Sockatume 15:55, 22 May 2005 (UTC)


 * We're sure they won't name it "Nintendo GameCube 2", but unsure if they will keep the name "Revolution". I think I remember someone from Nintendo stating recently that Revolution was still just a codename.


 * But it'd be nice to see Nintendo keep its name as "Revolution," don't you think?;mdash;Quickbreak 22:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Got a nice ring to it, as long as they ditch the Rev-(big-disk)-luti-(small-disk)-n logo. Sockatume 01:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

if you look at iwatas statement, he says they wont make another 2-screen system. If anyone read that carefully they would realize that he never answered the question fully, kind of answered a different question with similar aspects. The controller is just becoming a bigger mystery and now that i think about it, its interesting how much isnt and is known. Since N has experimented in holo and gyros they might as well invent a time machine and call it the nintendo retro.


 * One thing that has been bugging me since E3. How will the Wavebird reciver fit on the Revolution? The top of the Revolution is flat, while the front of the GC is roundish. Havok 16:06, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Accourding to what I have read, I might be able to find my source (I'll try), Nintendo confirmed that there will be enough space on the top of the system (standing verticaly as presented) to fit the Wavebird reciever. Off I go source hunting... --Ritz 30 June 2005 23:25 (UTC)


 * Not the most succesful quest but basicly it is confirmed along with all the other information Iawata revealed a while ago to the Japanese press, I think there is a source link somewhere in the article - oh here, for refrence look here: . Looking at that one picture up close, I dont have much trouble seeing how the reciever will fit --Ritz 30 June 2005 23:39 (UTC)

Photoshop images
What's with the photoshop image of the retro-"Revolution"? It's so obvious. This should be removed and deleted. As if we need more images of the system especially fake ones. K1Bond007 18:47, May 22, 2005 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I removed the retro image. The red Nintendo logo on the front of the console especially gives it away as a fake. Atomic Cosmos 12:59, May 23, 2005

I would buy it if Nintendo made a limited edition Revolution that looked like that. Havok 15:59, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * If there are going to be any photoshoped images, it should be on the Revolution main article and it should be made clear that they are just concepts.Jack Lumber 12:51, July 13, 2005

Specs?
Someone posted specs on revolution processors without posting a reference to them. I've checked the existing references, but they all say Nintendo hasn't said anything on the chip specs. CyberSkull 02:22, 2005 May 26 (UTC)


 * Ok, I see it's taken from the rumors section. I'm going to remove it from the confirmed specs section. And do the wireless controllers really use Bluetooth? CyberSkull 02:34, 2005 May 26 (UTC)


 * It's not been revealed as such, and it seems unlikely, as Nintendo went with a proprietary system for the Wavebird. Sockatume 11:30, 26 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, someone went and put a bunch of speculation in the specs section. I had to clear most of it out or over to the rumors section. CyberSkull 12:08, 2005 May 27 (UTC)

downloadable games
Famitsu Magazine has said something about what downloadable games will be availabe, so I added a list of them to Rumours and Speculation.


 * I'm not so sure. Some translations of that scan suggest that it's merely a count of Nintendo firstparty titles for each platform, as a suggestion of the number of games which could be available. Is there a reliable translation available anywhere? Sockatume 13:11, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * This is what I've been hearing. I changed it to state 221 published games. I don't know the exact wording here. Feel free to tinker, but I know they didn't break it down by system. (45 Nintendo GameCube makes no sense if the entire system is compatible with Nintendo GameCube games) etc. I don't know. The last line about Wifi and Super Smash Bros Melee and all that is probably false. K1Bond007 16:40, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)


 * no, WiFi is correct, super smash brothers i cant comment on, but i certainly read about the cub e being wifi compatible since it will link to the DS

Downloadable Games
Nintendo announced the games will not be free.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/622/622870p1.html

There's some disappointing news for those expecting these classics to be available for free. Nintendo is planning on pay downloads as being the standard for this download system. There will be many types of services, though, including limited time free downloads. One possibility mentioned by Iwata is free downloads as bonuses for buying new games.
 * actualy he didnt say pay mode ... its more a plus like you buy Zelda Revo and get a code or a file or something that lets you download say Zelda from nes or Zelda 64 or the complete Zelda Saga ... whell thats what i understood :P

"Virtual Console" Section?
Shouldn't we add a section devoted to the "Virtual Console" idea? Here's a very rough draft, with some of the E3 comments by Mr Iwata.

"Virtual Console"

One of the most unique aspects of the Ninendo Revolution, other than the yet-to-be-seen controller, is the fact that it can download more than 20 years of Nintendo content. There are at least 150 games that should be avaliable for download on Day 01.

Unfortunatley, it would seem that the game downloadsd will not be free, which comes as a huge dissapointment to many, but many will just as readily pay to play these great classics again.

Many third parties have expressed great interest in the idea, and wish to distribute their old games through this method, again charging a fee in the process. It would seem that this method will fulfill Valve's vision for Steam.

---

Here's a bit from Iwata's E3 Speech.

Finally, I would like to give you one full answer to a piece of the revolution puzzle, as talked about previosuly. Backward compatability.

As I said, the disk drive will accept Nintendo GameCube games, but we are redefining the term backward compatibility. That's because we have designed Revolution to a _virtual console_, capable of downloading twenty years of nintendo content. [Crowd explodes in cheering. Famicon, Super Famicon, and Nintendo 64 appear on screen in Keynote, all of them moving into the Revolution system.]]

You will be able to purchase great games origionally created for NES, Super NES, and Nintendo 64. It is accurate to say that Nintenod revolution is technically capable of playing virtually every Nintendo COnsole game ever created.

The idea of a single device transporting us back to the first Exitebike, Earthbound, or [Inaudiable] should make us all feel young again. At least for a while.

Exitebike Punchout Legend of Zelda Mario Brothers

F-Zero Super Mario World Super Mario Kart Super Metroid

Mario Kart 64 Super Mario 64 Wave Race 64 The Legend of Zelda: The ocarina of Time

There's some disappointing news for those expecting these classics to be available for free. Nintendo is planning on pay downloads as being the standard for this download system. There will be many types of services, though, including limited time free downloads. One possibility mentioned by Iwata is free downloads as bonuses for buying new games.

The internal flash memory is being used for a few areas besides the download of game classics. You'll be able to save games to the flash area, update the Revolution's firmware (adding new features along the way, presumably) and download game demos! That's right, Revolution game demos, downloaded right to your Revolution hardware.


 * It's pretty much covered in the opening paragraph, and there's not much more info (the pricing structure's unknown other than that charges will be a possibility), so I'd say we should leave it be for now. Once there's more information it can be expanded into its own section. Sockatume 22:30, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Actualy, the "backwards compatability" section could be expanded. The problem with the "very rough draft" is that it is everything but from a NPOV. Anyway, I'm going to mess around a bit with that section and see if some stuff can be clarrified. If I use information from your draft, I'll give credit in the Edit Summary. --Ritz 20:25, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The section has been added to the article. As well as putting it in front of "Rumors and Speculation". --Ritz 21:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * It is indeed a very good idea I hope that other 3rd party Game Companies pitch in and allow thewir games to be downloaded on the virtual console.

I can see it now playing the games that started it all (Pong, Donkey Kong, Super Mario, and ect.) I hope this idea of a virtual console is expnded on. This is somehing that Nintendo is probably the best at, bringing the Classics back to life and makeing their new games just as addictively entertaining. Microsoft and Sony are in trouble now, make way for the Revolution!!!!!!!! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.101.116.234 (talk • contribs).


 * Pong is not owned by Nintendo and so it's pretty much guaranteed not to be downloadable for the Revolution. --Matt 09:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Nintendo's entire back catalog?
Confirmed is that the console will run Nintendo GameCube games natively and NES, Super NES, and N64 games in "virtual console" emulation. Speculation is that the console will run Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance games in emulation. But this still doesn't add up to Nintendo's entire back catalog, as it excludes Nintendo Virtual Boy games, those Game & Watch games that have not been ported to the Game Boy, and those Game Boy titles that are not compatible with the Game Boy Player, such as Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble and episodes of the Pokémon animated series in Game Boy Advance Video format. I changed the article to "over 98 percent". --Damian Yerrick 06:13, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

About all my edits
The revision history is flooded with my revisions and I just wanted to note that it's so users may revert to an earlier revision to make a correction without reverting all my work (and because I was obsessed). If for some reason, all my work is to be reverted, so be it - (but please explain why). But I just wanted to give people (including myself) the option to correct and revert without getting rid of everything in the process. --Ritz 21:39, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Ritz the only method I know for reverting articles involves restoring a previous version of an article by editing a previous version stored in history. If your first edit was to be reverted, the whole thing would be (well, it would probably just be changed). Although, I could be wrong. Juan Ponderas 04:05, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh ya, I understand that, but in the case only a bit of my edits needed to be corrected - the option to go back only a little bit is there. Anyway, the greatest reason for huge amounts of edits is just me finding something to correct, fixing it and then saving, just to find something new... :) --Ritz 04:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Regarding recent "controller" paragraph
Someone added a new rumor regarding button placement on the controller. I feel the paragraph and quote integration is ok, must could use some improvement. I seem to be lacking the skill to have the paragraph "flow" properly, so if anyone wants to try there hand at editing diction and grammar to make the paragraph easier to read, and general improved over its current state, that would be great. Thanks. --Ritz 00:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Added Stuff
I added some information about the downloadable games. I was also going to add some 'leaked' images of the Revolution in the rumours section but wasn't sure if I should.


 * Yeh, well there are just so many different "leaked" (see faked with photoshop) images crawling on the net, I dont think they should be posted. I think rumors placed into that section should come from a credible or reliable source - cause its so easy to make a rumor yourself and put it there. It's kinda iffy. Also, make sure you sign your posts, (three dashes and four tildes) --Ritz 23:19, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks... what's a 'tilde'?


 * This is a tilde ~. Using four of them (~) will print your name and the date, like this. Optichan 20:36, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)


 * A Tilde can be made by holding down shift and pressing the key directly below ESC. You can also just press the button or exucuting " javascript:insertTags('--~',,); "  "--Wulf 18:50, July 10, 2005 (UTC)" --Wulf 18:50, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Confirmed titles
Confirmed titles in that section should be just that. Unfortunatly, Mario 128 as Mario Revolution is a rumor, and should be placed there. --Ritz 23:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression from everything I've read that Mario 128 is something totally different than the game they're developing for Revolution. I guess it's just me. K1Bond007 23:47, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)


 * Mario 128 is confirmed just as much as "Mario Revolution", seeing as Miyamoto-San is saying that he is moving Mario 128 to the Revolution. "We think we want Mario 128 on Revolution... The Mario team can't create too many games at the same time, so they're concentrating on the Revolution." Either we add two Mario games, or leave it as it is. Source Havok 23:48, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * By the way, could someone post a link with sources for the confirmed games, I'm just curious. Havok 23:51, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Well they think they want it on Revolution, and I have no doubt personaly they are developing for the Revolution, but they haven't said outright it is. Although I do think the possibilty of two mario games listed may be appropriate. --Ritz 23:54, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * http://www.nintendojo.com//infocus/index.php#1119050850 is the source of the 5 original games I listed as confirmed. Unaware of other's sources for other titles. --Ritz 23:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Then I think we should remove the "wishful" thinking titles, and move them to rumors. And use the section "Confirmed titles" for just that, titles that have been confirmed for the system. As stated in the link you gave me "Funnily enough, video game retail giant GameStop has listed on their website the five Revolution titles pseudo-announced at E3." I wouldn't quote an online retailer as official. For now everything is just plain rumors. Havok 00:01, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I agree then. --Ritz 00:05, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't Super Smash Bro's. Revolution a confirmed title though? Considering the president said he was pushing to make it a launch title? I'll see if I can't find a source. --Ritz 00:11, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I just watched the conference again and Iwata-San said that Squarenix are working on a Crystal Chronicles game. He also said showed of a trailer of Metroid Prime 3 and said he wanted to have Super Smash Bros' as a launch title. But again, it's still just rumors and speculation. They have not confirmed it other then stating that they are working on it. Havok 00:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I read that Smash bros was to be a launch title and to be included with the system as a package, a system/game combo at launch hasnt been done since the 16bit era unless im forgetting something. If anyone can find the actual information to confirm this almost-rumor to infact be a rumor, i use gamespot and gamedevelopers magazine for my information, nintendo is keeping even people in the industry in the shadows (which is :P). 12:57, 26 Jun 2005

I think the Smash Bros. combo was a Nintendo GameCube thing for later this August. -Kevin

It could be, i may be wrong completely, i dont have access outside this site and a few medical sites to verify it so someone find a source and confirm it.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/632/632133p1.html - Kevin

Spelling
I can easily see an edit war comming with a debate about something as trivial as how color/colour should be spelled. For the sake of simplicity, I suggest we stick with "color". Also, color is the spelling of the article of the same name. Colour is a redirect... so for the sake of keeping everyone sane, lets stick with the one type of spelling to be consistent. --Ritz 18:32, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, Wikipedia rules are that it should be consistent in within every article, but that there is no preferred method, and that exxisting articles hsould not be changed. -Juan Ponderas

I didn't see a typo section so here it is:
 * in section "Virtual Console" the 3rd paragraph has the following sentence:
 * ...talks with these deveopers for this purpose.
 * I think it should be developers

Downloaded games onto SD cards
I'm pretty sure that it was said at the E3 keynote that you would be able to move games you download onto SD cards (hence the DRM). Therefore the remarks in the article about a lack of memory for certain games, such as those about possible downloads of Sega games, aren't correct. Because, with SD cards, a lack of space won't be a problem, assuming you have enough money to buy more SD cards. - Jalexster
 * It would be remarkably expensive for the consumer if they needed to use a 800+ meg SD card to download a single game. As well as the fact that it would eat up insane amounts of bandwidth if downloads were attempted. Its just not cost effective. --Ritz 19:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Isn't there a built-in cache of flash memory—512MB if I heard correctly—and the SD cards are used as an expansion of that memory? -- VederJuda 12:45, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 800 MB? The largest cartridge ever produced for Nintendo 64 was 64 MB (512 Mb). There were very few games that used a cartridge that large. In fact, the only one I can remember is Resident Evil 2, although I think there might have been one other. Most games will be much smaller. The largest game produced for SNES was Tales of Phantasia at 6 MB, (almost?) all others were 4 MB or smaller. Unless one downloads a lot of Nintendo 64 games, the internal memory of 512MB will be plenty. --24.45.19.51 21:31, 17 September 2005 (UTC)