Talk:WildFly

Marc Fleury
I wonder if we can still count Marc as the "original author". Yes, he started JBoss AS... but WildFly is a complete rewrite of the core platform by a team of authors.

JBoss EAP
The article needs clarification about JBoss EAP. Pmerson (talk) 17:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reference 2 dead
please fix 78.55.208.222 (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Added a new link and some more information to find the book online Johannes Hillert (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Redirect to JBoss company?
Would it not be better to redirect to the JBoss (company) article? 217.119.226.226 12:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Please clean the page from the marketspeak and shameless self-promotion that's in it now. This is Wikipedia after all, not some cheap PR opportunity. --131.246.137.55 17:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

The logo on this page is out of date..

If someone deletes the notice about the trademark-conflict in gemany again, she or he might write about her or his intentions.--Ferrydun 16:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I did not delete it but... The trademark thing is not an accurate statement of the facts. AFAIK no company in Germany has claimed rights to the JBoss trademark/servicemark except for the Eurpoean subsidiary of JBoss. There was a Germany company that felt it should be able to use the servicemark and that it was unfair for the company to have registered the servicemark. However, if you look at similar articles on the wikipedia there is not a large list of every minor out of court dispute or that "so and so company doesn't like XYZ company because..." making me think that the encyclopedic value of this information (especially in its inaccurate form) is questionable at best.

I am BNU, a co-founder of The Enterprise Java Beans in Open Source Software (EJBOSS) Organization that formed to build the server, the trademarks, the two websites, the server (from already built source) and all derivative works. I am an expert on this subject. I note the trademark dispute with the German company is relevant to this article. I also note this article incorrectly links to a private company started solely by Marc Fleury years after the project Organization had already built the server http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBoss_(company). The artical claims the company built the server which is incorrect. The server source tree derives wholly from Rickard Oberg's container, which was already built when Marc Fleury proposed a project and a name for it. The issues are covered in more detail in two blogs that Wikipedia researchers can find at jbossissue.wordpress.com and another older one that is referenced in it dating to 2005 when the German company was illegally sued in violation of the agreements and intent of putting in place trademark protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.200.218.239 (talk) 07:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Sure you've mentioned java enough times in the first 2 sentences? I dunno... This doesn't read like an encylopaedia to me. I didn't learn what I wanted to on a quick look at the page.

This content is dreadful and really illustrates how severely problematic Wikipedia is:

Oracle already competes with IBM in the middleware space: they are (depending on how and who is measuring) the number two and number one players in the space. I'm sure there's some more relevant information on the history of JBoss (which is actually interesting and not discussed here at all) than ill informed speculation about a rumored acquisition discussion.

Who uses JBoss?
Just out of curiosity (and the fact that my company is considering using JBoss), who else uses JBoss? Continental Airlines Lockheed Martin Deloitte & Touche --User:Lindsayt930

Answer: look at http://www.jboss.org/customers/index --62.159.225.138 08:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I know that The Dynac product of Transdyn Controls is based on JBoss/JLoox...--Billymac00 20:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

What a name! My guess is that whoever uses this has narcissism issues. "JBoss Rules"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.28.112 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * JBoss is a company. Who uses JBoss EAP? High-profile customers that need reliable implementation of Java EE with support provided often by the authors of the specifications.

What's JBoss
So what does it do again? What would people use it for? --Witchinghour 14:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. i'm not any clevier after reading this. I'll add the 'techincal' tag, hoping anyone con fix this. --Foma84 (talk) 08:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this page tells me nothing about what JBoss actually does (the link to application server comes the closest, but that page is equally useless). All I can tell from this page is that JBoss is owned by Redhat and is cross platform. But why would I care if its cross platform if I don't know what it actually does? Somebody who actually has a clue about JBoss needs to expand the introduction. Kevmitch (talk) 00:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You can't possibly understand this page without knowing what an application server is. If you deem that page "useless" then the problem is not here. --M4gnum0n (talk) 10:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I just looked at the JBOSS site. It is obviously no longer 'free'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.73.1.1 (talk) 23:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There are now two versions that should be addressed: The Enterprise Application Platform and the (present) Application Server.  This is similar to the Fedora, RHEL split that RH likes to do. Reboot (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I am pretty much a techie and honestly, the article doesn't tell me a thing about what jboss does at all. It's more like a discussion of the politics of the product and not the product itself. Whaduzzitdo? 59.149.184.122 (talk) 08:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Outdated
The sentence "Jboss AS 5.1 contains a preview of some elements from the not yet released Java EE 6 specification." is outdated as the Java EE 6 specification is already released. --212.202.228.154 (talk) 10:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I removed the "not yet released" part. Nevertheless, someone who knows about AS 5.1 should have a look if that part is still up to date. --212.202.228.154 (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Product features makes little sense
The part about product features makes little sense. It's summing up a number of (outdated) Java EE specifications, that JBoss AS supports by definition. I think this list should be removed and replaced by a reference to the Java EE list of specifications (the Java EE history article contains a good overview), and then a description of what differentiates JBoss AS from other similar offerings (http://www.jboss.org/as7.html would be a good source, but it's a primary source).

Arjant (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC).


 * Agreed. Also, it looks like some of the product features spilled down into the "Licensing and pricing" section.Trumpetpunk42 (talk) 16:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that too. The article as it is right now is a big mess :( Arjant (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC).

JBoss Support
Not only Red Hat provides support for JBoss but other reputed companies too. A list of these support providers will be very helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davisambrose (talk • contribs) 17:19, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

* Depends on what you define as "support". Red Hat provides JBoss EAP, which is a tuned, hardened and highly tested and debugged fork of WildFly. And that's what is supported. The support includes SLA's and may include features put to a roadmap. Some other company may provide support for WildFly, but practically only to the extent of what's aligned with Red Hat's plans, given that WildFly is mostly developed by employees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.101.205.187 (talk) 20:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Page name change from JBoss to WildFly
The change to the page name from "JBoss" to "Wildfly" should have been disallowed by other wikipedians. The existence, functionality, and release history of JBoss are facts that did not change when a particular company chose to call future releases by a different name. They are functionally distinct and neither should be a redirect to the other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.43.43.48 (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Request a name change back if you think it can be supported. Donama (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Notability
This does not appear to be a notable product by WP:NCORP standards. As an alternative to deletion a redirect seems appropriate. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Redirect to Red Hat is misleading
Red Hat is a company WildFly is a software component: a java Application Server, now named Thorntail. The old name was JBoss AS. Also the redirect from the page JBoss_Application_Server is not correct: it redirects to Red Hat too.

It seems more redirects have as target Red Hat. Red Hat is a company, not a piece of software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefano.campanini (talk • contribs) 10:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Actually, WildFly Swarm was named Thorntail, that is somewhat different from the full WildFly AS. I never used it, but judging from this description of WildFly Swarm it seemed to be some early form of MicroProfile that was used to ship a very small AS with your Java application. Thorntails death was announced on July 23, 2020. Johannes Hillert (talk) 01:25, 12 September 2020 (UTC)