Talk:X-Men: The Animated Series/Archive 1

Episode Order
Why does the order of the episodes listed here differ from that given by DRG4's reputable X-Men the Animated Series page (http://members.aol.com/drg4/x.html)? For instance, look at Season 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.151.130.137 (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

blog link
I deleted the link to the X-Men Evolution blog. It should probably be in the 'X-Men: Evolution' entry, eh? Zooba 19:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Alternate Japanese openings.
There were, apparently, two alternate Japanese openings for the X-Men animated show. If you look hard enough you can find them on YouTube. I was going to add something about the alternate openings, but wasn't sure where to add the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zooba (talk • contribs) 19:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Morph ?
why is there nothing about Morph on this page ? Woud it be OK to add some more people to the "cast" section, if i can find out who did the voice ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallen Angel3787 (talk • contribs) 11:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

i have added links to the "Role" part of the cast but i dont know how to get it to go to the correct article, as soon as i work it out i will edit them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallen Angel3787 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I will try to add info about as meany Eps as I can Fallen Angel   talk  11:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Episodes
Is it really vital to have (proposed) seperate pages fo all the episodes, when they can just be listed here? --Jamdav86 18:22, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, and am placing this on my to-redirect list, if no one gets to it first. -- nae'blis (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I similarly agree. Cybertooth85 19:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, I also agree. We should expand this article with such information, and if that becomes too long, we split it into seasons. If the season info becomes too long for one article, we split those articles in episodes. This is generally how series are supposed to be done; see Talk:List of Justice League episodes. This doesn't mean we should add for the sake of adding, however. Plot summaries should be kept to a minimum. --Chris Griswold 12:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

List
Why does more then 50% of this article exist out of lists? I think that the hero team and episode lists need to be moved to a seperate article/category, or at least spaced so they dont take as much room as they do now. The text also needs alot of expanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.170.62 (talk) 21:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Promotion in Australia
Before it was broadcast in Australia, the first episode "Night of the Sentinels" part 1 on vhs tape was included in an Xmen showbag in the 1993 Royal Shows across the country. These agriclulture shows attract half a million atleast in each state.Atirage 05:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Juggernaut Bitch!!
Is a reference to the My Way Productions parody, Juggernaut Bitch!!, in order? It could fit in trivia (somewhat awkwardly, but I don't think that it deserves an entire section to itself) The freddinator 02:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that a small cultural impact section could be put in, and that spoof (plus the third film's reference to it) would be included. If someone's up to that it sounds viable to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.205.36 (talk) 03:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

pryde of the x-men?
why is this even listed here. it has nothing to do with the x-men 90's cartoon. it was meant to be a pilot for an x-men cartoon for nbc. so i think that part should go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.96.159 (talk) 20:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * if you watch 'pryde of the x-men', you will see that it obviously is the percursor to this show. Es-won 20:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Changes as of 24 May 2007
ummmm... i did em. quite a few changes in format, shedding of dead weight, organisation etc.. discuss if you must. knuck if you buck. Es-won 21:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Background Error
In the first paragraph: "Despite its final new episode airing in late 1998 after 5 complete seasons, Fox did not remove the show from the line-up until 1998." It sounds like the author is trying to say that the show was kept in the line-up in reruns for some time after the late 1998 cancelation. I think the second date should not be 1998. It should be something later. But I don't know the correct date for the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ydermenj (talk • contribs) 17:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * just for everyone's closure, this has been fixed. Es-won 10:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Sabertooth / Graydon Creed Snr. / Victor Creed
In the episode where Wolverine infiltrates the FoH HQ, after Jubilee has been captured and taken there, he calls for Professor X to bring a portable cerebro unit, and when the unit is playing a holographic image of Sabertooth, you hear the Professor identify him as Graydon Creed Senior. Yet as is shown in this article, and the Sabretooth (comics) article, his name is Victor Creed. How should this be explained in the article? phalacee 07:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This is either an error, or a device from the creators of the animated series for dramatic effect. Indeed, "Graydon Creed Senior" sounds far more imposing, and striking, if you watch the holographic image and then see Pop's lil' boy Creed lose himself into an outburst of rage much alike to Sabretooth's... I think it's just something they altered, like how they altered Professor X having a hover-chair before meeting the Shi'ar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.169.148.18 (talk) 16:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It could also be explained that Cerebro is not a database but a mutant detector that operates on mental currents; it wouldn't know what Sabertooth's real name is, just that he was the father of Graydon Creed. Es-won 10:55, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Reception
I deleted it because its completely irrelevant. What is the purpose of including the opinion of an artist who's so obscure, his wiki page is in danger of being deleted? He had nothing to do with the show or the unrelated batman cartoon mentioned. Even if his opinion was positive, and therefor an accurate representation the overall reception of the show, it would have no place in the article. You might as well write "My buddy down the block used to watch it with me and he once wrote a comic or 2 and I liked the tv show also. We also liked the old Superman cartoon. Here is a quote from my mom about the show.."

Please don't put the passage back. It's pointless. If you want to add a section discussing the reception of the show, then do so using relevant quotes and ratings data. I don't see what this guy's opinion has to do with anything.

And its also stupid. Why the hell would a morning cartoon aimed at children have killing and blood?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.46.179 (talk) 02:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Amelia Voght
Who did the voices? I don't have a refenrence for it. I do know she was here though.--Marhawkman (talk) 06:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

In othe rmedia?
Is that giant list of video games necessary? Aren't they in fact spin-offs of the original comic property, and not the cartoon? I do not remember a single game drawing on the show - even the X-Men arcade game drew on the pilot tghat came BEFORE this show.Es-won (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the only game that directly drew from the show to my knowledge is the Cartoon Maker. All others were based on the comic, most of the 16 bit ones using the at the time more popular "Blue Team" of Cyclops, Wolverine, Psylocke, Beast, Gambit, and Rogue. Nerfthewarmech (talk) 23:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

C-Class rated for Comics Project
As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit WikiProject_Comics/Assessment and list the article. Hiding T 14:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

"Beyond faithfully recreating many of the popular characters and stories from the comic books, the series also dealt fairly openly with mature social issues."
So did the comic books so essentially that's still "faithfully recreating many of the stories from the comic books." The sentence makes it seem as if the animated series was more mature than the books. 172.130.161.188 (talk) 03:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)Kaul

Most successful comic-adaptations?
Is it really true that Batman: TAS and X-Men: TAS are considered the two most successful animated adaptions of a comic book, ever? What about all of those anime based on manga, because I highly about X-Men: TAS and Batman: TAS reached the popularity levels of the top animes of all time? Or don't they count? Should it be reworded as "non-manga comic book"? Yuna-chan (talk) 06:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I suppose that you can argue that DragonBall Z, Naruto, and maybe even Bleach were/are the most successful animated adaptations of a comic book(s), but I think that the word "comic book" is key here. Japanese "comic books" are referred to as mangas and cartoons as "animes" respectively, so I wouldn't class the two together. However, calling them the two most successful animated adaptions of a comic book is an OPINION PIECE, and really has no place in Wikipedia. Calling them reasonably accurate cartoon-adaptations of the comic books that they were based upon that drew in high ratings and merchandising profits (with appropriate sources) would be more fitting.

--74.34.209.213 (talk) 09:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Morph
This article says he was an original character for the series. The Morph article seems to disagree as well as his existence in the comic books. Even though this claims to have a cite. Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.253.68 (talk) 21:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

The idea of Morph was based on the canon Changeling from earlier X-Men books. Changeling has long since been deceased in Earth-616 (main Marvel) continuity, so they were able to use the same character, with a fresh slate. His popularity from the show sparked his usage in the "Age of Apocalypse" comic storyline, except with the cartoon-inspired "Morph" name. Hope that helps.

--74.34.209.213 (talk) 09:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)