Talk:Yemen/Archive 3

Page history
Hi, while I was trying to look into the page history I saw that there was a huge spam that happened 3 days ago here and I can't open it using the mobile version. It keeps loading and loading and not opening. This might cause difficulty to those who want to explore the history of the article. SharabSalam (talk) 17:44, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * It wasn't spam, it was pure vandalism. It happened twice and was reverted in both cases. The first time, over 210,000 characters were added, and they may have been added in such a way that computing the diff is very complicated or time-consuming, so it may just be a timeout, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that this edit triggered a bug in the diff routine. The same thing happens on the desktop as on mobile, by the way. Largoplazo (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Well I think we need an editor who is able to remove the whole edit like how they do when there is pornography or copyright materials--SharabSalam (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ — Maile (talk) 14:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

>>Repetition Repetition Repetition
This image is in the article twice. Perhaps somebody who knows which position in the article is the better one might want to sort that one out. Kelisi (talk) 02:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I have changed one of the photos. Thanks--SharabSalam (talk)

Link issue
The Indo-Pakistani ethnic group link goes to India-Pakistan diplomatic relations, not the ethnic group itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.109.28.162 (talk) 15:13, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have changed it to South Asian ethnic groups.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 16:21, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Area size
Current area size can be found in the The World Fact Book, The World Atlas and many other authoritative sources. El_C 08:49, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure why two sources from 2002 should supersede current authoritative sources. El_C 08:56, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly Nlivataye (talk) 07:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Removal of President
Since there is no official president of Yemen now, the name of Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi should be removed from the article.Lordofhunk (talk) 18:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , what do you mean by "no official president"?--SharabSalam (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * because there is no official government, just a control that's it.Lordofhunk (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , the Hadi government is considered as the legitimate government by the UN. We don't have another president.--SharabSalam (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Allah
, Allah doesn't mean "God". The word Allah is like Yahwah in Judaism. It is the name of the Muslim God not the translation of the word "God". Ilah (إلاه) is the word that means "God" in Arabic not Allah.--SharabSalam (talk) 20:40, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Your second and third sentences are identical to "Allah doesn't mean 'god' but, rather, 'God'", using the distinction made in English between the lower-case and capitalized forms of the word. So your first sentence is incorrect. Islam teaches that Allah is the same god as the god of the Hebrews and the Christians. In English that god is most commonly known as "God". So "Allah" is just as much Arabic for "God" as "Dieu" is French for "God" and "Gott" is German for ... well, for both "god" and "God", because German capitalizes all its nouns.


 * There's nothing wrong with calling him "Allah" as well in contexts where that name is commonly usedin general use, but not here, as WP:ALLAH states a consensus to use "God". Still, it's incorrect to say that the word means something different from capital-G "God". (If you want to debate the guideline at WP:ALLAH, you'll need to do that at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles.) Largoplazo (talk) 11:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No, Arabic "God" is not Allah, it's Ilah (إلاه). The God in Islam is called Allah in English, Arabic and all languages, the Islamic God is called Allah. The Arabic word for God is Ilah.--SharabSalam (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have started a pre-RfC discussion yesterday in WP:ALLAH and I hope I can clear the misunderstanding there.--SharabSalam (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've responded at the RFC. Largoplazo (talk) 14:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Op is wrong. Arab Christians say “Allah”, Arab Jews say “Allah”, Arab Muslims say “Allah.”

You are sorely mistaken by thinking that Ilah is used exclusively by non Muslims comparatively to Muslims. JasonMoore (talk) 18:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

All names refer to the One, True God. That different people have different understandings of Him is the cause of the different names. Whether they all worship the same god is an old point of dispute. Say we both know Mr. Smith. But I think he was married once, and you think you have proof he was never married. Do we know the same man?

Or take a real case. Jesus is the Son of God, the incarnation of the Second Person of the Trinity to Christians. He is a great prophet, slightly misunderstood, to Moslems. He is a nice Jewish boy, who went into his fathers business, to Jews. Do they all know the same man?

Really, all this name argument is about who has the right understanding. I think all the Abrahamic faiths have the same God, but a lot of their members do not. Maybe the article can reflect these various perspectives, and explain the problem. 2A00:23C7:E287:1900:C48F:D74B:A82A:AA67 (talk) 11:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Etymology
The word' Yemen' actually means 'the kingdom of Lord Yama, who is called the Lord  of the south, accordingto the Indian mythology. Actually the southern coast of the Arabian peninsula was divided to two parts by the ancient Indian geographears- the left and the Right. The left was called 'Vama'( Oman) and the right was called - Dakshina- which means the right side or the  South side. The South is connected to Lord Yama who is the ruler of the South.. Hence this land came to be called as Yemen. the South. Banda.krishna (talk) 05:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC) B.K. Satyanarayana

Jews
There is an old tradition among Yemeni Jews that the Jews actually come from Yemen, and bits of the Bible were altered, later. I have seen it in a couple of sources, including a study by the British Government during the war, trying to decide on policy in the region. Could we have some account if this, and references to scholarly discussion of it? 2A00:23C7:E287:1900:C48F:D74B:A82A:AA67 (talk) 11:19, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Legitimate Government
The Hadi led government is weaker than even the Southern Transitional council.

At what point will we decide that the « Houthi » government is the current and actual legitimate ruling government in Yemen. They hold the capital, as well as harbour the support and control of most of the population as well. It is nonsense to assume a non resident government is who is really in charge just because Saudi Arabia seems to think so. What are your thoughts on the matter? JasonMoore (talk) 18:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

It will depend on your stand on the war. A lot of European nations thought their monarchs and governments were the legitimate rulers of their countries, even thought they were in London, and the Germans had installed current and actual governments in those countries. As for popular support, let’s have a supervised election, and find out. 2A00:23C7:E287:1900:C48F:D74B:A82A:AA67 (talk) 11:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

In need of radical updating
Having read this article for the first time recently, it is sorely out of date in almost all respects. It doesn't give me any current view of the conflict which has decimated the country, the parties involved, the international supporters of the conflict, or even the causes of the conflict arising. The same could be said of many of the Yemen related articles, which almost always  do not mention the recent devastation that has been wreaked on the country and its populace. Sorry I can't help with this, but it needs to be recognised that the article is obscure and massively out of date. TonyClarke (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Request possible page protection
Just to prevent vandalism or any kind of disruptive editing, I request Ubersonic Gaming (talk) 11:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Full-protection-shackle-no-text.svg Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Requests for page protection. However I see little recent vandalism or other disruptive editing in the recent edit history of Yemen, so I think that without a good explanation of why this article in particular needs protection right now any request there is likely to be declined. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 11:52, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

10% Pakistanis?
What is the source of 10% Pakistanis when in the same introduction it states a mere 1%? Nlivataye (talk) 16:32, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Globe
The globe of Yemen in the infobox is different from other countries. I suggest to replace with Wiki map. The Supermind (talk) 19:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)