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John Palocaren

 * ... that Father John Palocaren`s students included spiritual teacher Eknath Easwaran, Chief Justice MS Menon, and EMS Namboodiripad, head of the world's first freely elected communist government?
 * Reviewed: Quasi-opportunistic supercomputing (DIFF1, DIFF2, DIFF3, done on 27 July 2011, but not previously cited when submitting a DYK)
 * Comment: The hook's claims are verifiable online - the former students via their writings (Easwaran and Namboodiripad) or via an article (currently ref #3) in The Hindu from 8 Sep, 2011 (Menon, Alappatt, and Namboodiripad); and the claim about first freely elected communist govt via online journal article (currently ref #12) in Bulletin of Concerned Asian Scholars.

Created/expanded by Presearch (talk). Self nom at 00:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ALT1: ... that Father John Palocaren students included spiritual teacher Eknath Easwaran, bishop George Alappatt, and EMS Namboodiripad, head of the world's first freely elected communist government?
 * I now prefer ALT1 (above) to my original hook because I think it has a better balance of former students - plus, all 3 have Wikipedia articles. -- Presearch (talk) 03:00, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg I also prefer alt 1. However, I have concerns with the article length and neutrality. The comments by students seem out of place and non-neutral, and if they were cut then the article would be too short. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:41, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing the hook. I have tried to give WP:DUE (proportional) coverage to what has been published about Palocaren. And those comments by students are what I found (there were also several additional anecdotes by Easwaran, but I didn't want to give his views undue coverage). I think that the article adequately represents the material (if not, please fix it!). The fact that these descriptions of Palocaren are quite positive does not seem surprising -- it's not every educator who is still being celebrated more than 60 years after he died. And these recollections are informative -- they give a sense of who he was, and why he left a strong impression (Note: there are also unattributed descriptions of what Palocaren did that appeared in the recent newspaper articles that were cited, but those are a unclear about whether they were repeating things that were said at the birth celebration, or whether they obtained their material from elsewhere, so I didn't cite them... but someone else is welcome to try to find an appropriate way to cite that material... again, it would be positive). A WP biographical article should reflect (in due proportional) what people report about a person, and I believe the article is fully in conformity with WP:MOS in this regard - and if not, I will support/contribute to efforts to fix it. So now what? Have I persuaded you? Or should another opinion be solicited? Many thanks for your efforts in reviewing. Best regards -- Presearch (talk) 15:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg I'm still rather iffy, but I guess it's good enough for DYK. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 27 September 2011 (UTC)