Template:Did you know nominations/René Morax


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

René Morax

 * ... that René Morax wrote the play Le Roi David, for which Honegger composed dramatic music for soloists, choir and orchestra? Source: he was a red link for that fact
 * Reviewed: Poor Dionis

Created by LouisAlain (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, nominated within the requisite timeframe. Free of copyvios. Added a comma to the hook, which seems okay otherwise. QPQ complete. BUT the referencing here is totally inadequate, sorry ; the refs are mostly about the plays Morax has authored, not about him; and they are none too reliable besides. Vanamonde (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't say sorry to me, I only nominated. What can we do? Search? It's from the French, DYK? I don't speak French. LouisAlain, any help here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually I scratched the French sources to the bottom and eventually found a radio interview dated 1958 and a 1962 video which I added to the external links and refs. I shall translate Alexandre Dénéréaz which is currently a red link in the article. LouisAlain (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks for adding sources. If we're to put this on the main page, though, we need inline citations. If you can provide these, fantastic; otherwise, I'm not certain there's much point in keeping this nom open: Gerda does not speak French, and neither do I. Vanamonde (talk) 14:08, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I've added 3 new external links and references and will translate Jean Morax sofort. Hope it will help. LouisAlain (talk) 14:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg Regretfully marking for closure, because this person seems interesting. The only source, at this point, that is biographical in nature is another wiki, hence unreliable. Sorry. Vanamonde (talk) 05:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I will look once more, but please give me a date. This is a historic figure, there must be something. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Vanamonde Please look again. I made some of the external links to references. Please note that the biographical information of the French WP (and others) is based on books, - just that I can't access them. Nothing looks controversial to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Much much better, certainly, thanks for putting in all that work. Cited, neutral enough, etc. The article as of now is almost entirely about his theater career, but I don't think I can or should hold up DYK over that. I think we have too many sources at the moment; is there a reason for a "sources" and a "bibliography"? Again, not critical, though. In the main I want to see a different hook, or at least different phrasing; right now, for a layperson such as myself the hook says "he wrote a play for which somebody else wrote the music." Vanamonde (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * If the piece was The Magic Flute, would you say the same? - It's his lasting success, and the only work with an article, and probably the only work still performed a lot. - The reason for sources and bibliography is the translation: bibliography has books devoted entirely to him, Sources other related stuff.


 * ALT1: ... that René Morax founded the Thêatre du Jorat (pictured), where his play Le Roi David premiered with dramatic music by Arthur Honegger? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Not ideal, but better, certainly. AGF on sources in languages I do not understand. We don't need a "sources" and a "bibliography", they can be merged, but that is not something to hold this up over. Image looks okay. Vanamonde (talk) 13:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have added Gerda to the credits as she has dome a lot of work on this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)