Template talk:Dune franchise

Creation
I've created this template as a navigation tool for Dune articles, complementing the existing Template: extended Dune series template for the novels. I intend to place it on the Dune universe page first to see how other editors react to it; perhaps then it will have a place on other pages as well.

To keep the nav box as condensed as possible, I've included the most important "people, places and things" and only items that have actual articles, not stubs. The "headings" (People, Elements/Concepts, etc) link to lengthier lists in each topic to make the box more comprehensive without being overstuffed with individual links. TAnthony 22:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Order of Houses
Shouldn't House Richese be in front of House Vernius, since the rest of the template is in alphabetical order? --Deviattor (talk) 19:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Split template?
After looking at how many Dune-related pages are linked from List of Dune characters and List of Dune Encyclopedia articles, I think adding them all might make the thing a little unwieldy. In any case, I'm not going to finish going through and adding them all now.

Also, I'm not sure the organization is completely logical now. Why are some groups/organizations (Bene Gesserit, Face Dancers) listed under "People", and others (CHOAM, Reverend Mothers) under "Elements/Concepts"? --DocumentN (talk) 06:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, this template is supposed to be a helpful navigation tool for more or less major elements of the Dune universe, listing every single character and article is unnecessary (and links to List of Dune characters etc. exist in the template). It may be an objective choice, but the B.G. and Face Dancers are more "groups of people" &mdash; to me meaning "groups of characters" &mdash; whereas CHOAM is a company (made up of people, but not organically the same as the other groups). And to me the RMs are basically a classification within the B.G. and not really a "group" unto themselves, and their nature (and the way the article itself is presented) feels more like a concept. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 04:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Soundtracks
Should soundtrack albums be linked from the template at all? To incorporate Emperor: Battle for Dune Official Soundtrack, it seems like I'd basically have to add another line to the box, which I'm reluctant to do when it's already 12 lines long. --DocumentN (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Publication year parentheses
Even though it looks like the template already presents these books in chronological order of publication, I am wondering if it would be too cluttering if we put the publication years in brackets to give this sense of progression to people. I am wondering if we might also present the books in terms of the timeline according to the Dune universe, such as it would go legends to prequel to franks to midquels to rest of franks to finals. -DB


 * I believe I had dates in there in an early incarnation of this template and they were taken out, though I don't recall why. I don't know the reasoning behind any policy that may exist on the subject, but looking around I see that nav templates for fiction series seem to be without dates (The Lord of the Rings, Narnia) while author lists (J. R. R. Tolkien, C. S. Lewis) have them. I think I might add the dates, and if they are ultimately challenged we'll find out why!
 * As far as layout goes, editor consensus to this point regarding Frank vs. the rest has always been to place Frank Herbert's works as primary. The rest is derivative, and real-world chronology should trump in-universe chronology when we're dealing with actual structure and navigation.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 03:46, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * MHO: it should have the dates, and Frank's should be first. Staecker (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)