User:Brightgalrs/MOS:PERSON

Proposal: In all instances of our [human universal] the our should be removed.

These universal things usually relate to the location of Earth, a feature of Earth, the human body, human psychology, or human evolution.

It is usually corrected by replacing our with the, human, or the human. "human" can probably be left off if the article is obviously about humans.

Existing articles written in this style

 * Human
 * Sun
 * Earth (almost)

Existing policy

 * MOS:PERSON
 * Conflicting things:
 * "Wikipedia articles must not be based on one person's opinions or experiences" - could be argued that all humans (and therefore persons) share the above opinions and experiences.
 * "Also avoid we, us, and our." - with nothing about personal opinions, so it could be interpreted as being separate from the above statement
 * In conclusion, whoever wrote the first sentence probably wasn't thinking about human universals at all. The policy should be clarified.


 * Human talkpage FAQs
 * Cites MOS:SELFREF as a reason why Human is written without "our"
 * MOSSELFREF doesn't actually talk about this type of self-reference, though it does share the same "spirit". Could be amended.
 * Makes a big deal about treating all articles in the same category the same. English language is treated the same as Spanish language, even though everyone reading the article would be an English speaker. Using "our" in, for instance, the Milky Way article treats it differently than the Andromeda Galaxy article (which is actually a bad example because it uses a lot of "our").
 * It's different here though, because these are mentions of things, not articles as a whole.

Statistics

 * "the Solar System" - 4,749 hits
 * "our solar system" - 538 hits