User talk:24.212.139.99

May 2022
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Thank you. — Sirdog (talk) 02:26, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

MPPs
It is impossible to source an MPP's official swearing-in date at all, for a variety of reasons: firstly, MPPs are not necessarily all sworn in on the same day (PC MPPs might be sworn in on one day and NDP MPPs on another, for example); secondly, media do not report the swearing-in dates as news; thirdly, even the Legislative Assembly's own website does not provide that information at all either. So if we insisted on "swearing-in date" as the start of a new MPP's term, then we would simply never be able to add any start date, because we have no way to ever properly source the correct date at all.

So Wikipedia simply uses election day itself as the start date, and that's not up for any debate or discussion. Bearcat (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * And another thing to keep in mind is that if we write "once sworn in she will represent" instead of "she represents" just because she hasn't been officially sworn in yet, then once she is sworn in somebody is going to have to remember to go back and manually update all the new MPPs a second time, which is a burden of work you are not entitled to place on people. It is very common on Wikipedia for articles to be written as if something that has already happened in the past is still an "upcoming" event, because nobody actually went back to change the future tense to the past tense after the thing finally happened — so Wikipedia has to be very, very careful in how we write about the future, especially when that "future" is only a matter of days away rather than months or years. So that's another reason why the distinction between "elected" and "sworn in" is not important for Wikipedia to uphold in the immediate transition period right after election day: because we can't guarantee that the articles will all actually be updated promptly once the MPPs are sworn in, again because we have no way of even knowing what day that happens on in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Get a life, nerd. 24.212.139.99 (talk) 00:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You first. I insist. Bearcat (talk) 00:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Boo hoo. Keep crying.  I'm not the one who wrote a dissertation rationalizing their laziness.  🤣 24.212.139.99 (talk) 03:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody justified any "laziness". Wikipedia is based on published reliable sources, not on private personal original research — so if no published reliable sources exist to verify when new MPPs have been "sworn in", then it is simply not our job to call all the MPPs one-by-one for unverifiable personal confirmation of whether they've been sworn in yet or not, and thus not doing a job we're not supposed to be doing in the first place does not make us "lazy". If journalists don't report it as a news story, and even the legislature's own website does not provide the information, then it is not our job to look for some other roundabout way of finding out information that has not already been published in other sources of record. Again, that doesn't make us "lazy", it makes us people who are doing our jobs correctly. Bearcat (talk) 18:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You do know that you're arguing with an IP, right? 🤣
 * Happy Canada Day, loser! 24.212.139.99 (talk) 20:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I will say though, I'm gratified that you replied to me in under 15 minutes. Were you waiting for long? 24.212.139.99 (talk) 03:28, 6 June 2022 (UTC)