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Happy editing! Megaman en m (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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Black women's history and Juneteeth in the Teahouse
Thank you for your helpful comments on my proposed edit for the Juneteenth article. I'd like to explore some of the concepts you mentioned with you, if I may:

I agree that it is not the job of Wikipedia to insert new ideas unless they are a major point of view with due weight. So, is including Black women's history in an article on Juneteenth a "major point of view" with "due weight?"

Yes. All you have to do is Google, "Juneteenth" plus the name of any great Black female leader of history to find many Juneteenth commemorations honoring the legacy of Black women leaders that take place all over the United States. Sojourner Truth, Frances Harper, Hattie Purvis, Ida B. Wells, Pauli Murray are just a few. My original edit sourced several of them with RS.

Further, The Juneteenth article itself notes that "In many places, Juneteenth has become a multicultural holiday." So there is precedent in the article itself to include multiple perspectives as relevant.

One reasoning for reverting my edit is that it was "female-centric," adding a bias. The Juneteenth article mentions "Miss Juneteenth" celebrations, which are "female-centric" celebrations. I'm not sure why female-only pageants celebrating Juneteenth are not considered "female-centric" content, but commemorations (by people of all races and sexes) of Black female leaders and their legacy are considered "female-centric." Can you explain the difference?

Further, since Black women are Black people, too, I don't consider the inclusion of their history to be "intersectional." On the contrary, the article as it stands assumes that Black male history is the history of all Black people. To me, the inclusion of Black women's history is necessary for the neutrality of the article.

However, that discussion is repeatedly shut down because of prohibitions on discussing "bad faith" in Wikipedia editing. Doesn't that standard harm Wikipedia's legitimacy?

AmorLucis (talk) 15:20, 18 July 2021 (UTC)