User talk:Arthur Taksin

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 * User pages are usually sacrasanct - however one aspect of your self explanation is a constant problem for the wider Australian project - there are more than one Perth in Australia - and it is always worth qualifying Western - as it actually shows a better understanding of wikipedia by doing so. Social media and a large number of online materials have the habit of Perth, Australia - and most are impervious to gaining understanding the nuance of the qualifier JarrahTree 06:00, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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Thai sources
Hi. Mind if I ask how you're working with Thai-language sources? Do you read Thai or are you relying on machine translations? I just went through the East Asiatic Building article and have a few suggestions, though what exactly will depend on that first question. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:48, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I mostly rely on a machine but I am currently trying to learn Thai to loosen my dependence, so far I know what all Thai consonets mean and most Thai vowels, so I can read some words. But I do understand that translations are not the most reliable, and I can tell you that some of the translations make no sense. This is why I mostly stick with pages that have a good translation. But still this might cause errors, and I understand that. This is why I try to stay away from big and important pages and instead edit stubs, and I do see it quite sad for my country to not be as detailed as other nations like the UK or USA.
 * However, I'm confident on my translations of dates. Like 2023 is 2566 in the Thai calendar. And this the calendar used today is similar in its layout to the Georgian calendar, I just subtract 543 years from the Thai date to get the Christian date. For example, 2566 minus 543 equals 2023. I hope this helps, and any suggestions, wheather it may be criticism or feedback, is welcomed. Topeka-GuyWiki (talk) 07:53, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. You've created some very good articles from limited available resources, which is impressive work, and I'd like to thank you for that. I know that some guesswork is often required when working with machine translations to make sense of what they mean. One has to be particularly careful not to make incorrect inferences, though, and there were a few factual errors I noticed in your additions that I'd like to raise, so that they can serve as a learning process.
 * It has been registered with the Fine Arts Department as a historic site since 1984. You probably got that from this paragraph in the Time Out article, which Microsoft translates as, Currently, the Fine Arts Department has announced that the East Asiatic Building It is a historic site and was awarded the Outstanding Conservation Building Award in 2527. From the Association of Siamese Architects under the Patronage of His Majesty the King. Google Translate does a bit better, with, At present, the Fine Arts Department has declared the East Asiatic Building a historical site. It also received the Outstanding Conservation Building Award in 1984 from the Association of Siamese Architects. under the royal patronage. The claimed Fine Arts Department designation is undated, and the 1984 date is only for the ASA Conservation Award already mentioned. (Also, "historic site" is translated from โบราณสถาน; the designation is technically known as "ancient monument".) And in this case the claim is anyway incorrect. The building is on the FAD's list of ancient monuments, but has not been officially registered as one. (Such statuses can be checked on the FAD's GIS portal.)
 * The building was built 1884. Several sources (including the cited English Time Out article) do give this date, but others contradict it (including the above Thai Time Out article). Given the contradictory information, closer inspection is warranted. Here, the 1884 year was likely derived from confusion with the date of the company's foundation. Consider also that journalistic articles nowadays will often have gotten their info from online research, so they are more likely to repeat mistakes previously made elsewhere. The ASA Conservation Award says "around 1900", which is probably more reliable, but as I previously noted in a comment, this still predates Rigotti's arrival in Siam so all of it should be taken with a grain of salt. I've now mentioned the discrepancies in a footnote.
 * In 1995, the building was bought by Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi and Charoenkrung Studio Co., Ltd. from the EAC. The cited ScandAsia article makes no mention of Charoenkrung Studio, and no where else do I see it mentioned that they have an ownership stake the building. You probably assumed so from the fact that they were the managers of the building when it was being rented out, but that would be a misassumption. Also, Charoenkrung Studio is an unincorporated business and not a company.
 * The building... contains three floors, with the first and second being divided into 3 sections. The source article used rather unclear language, which was further garbled by the machine translation, but it wasn't talking about the division of the floor plan, only how the front façade was segmented into arched windows.
 * Other than these, there's the issue of source reliability. I've removed the worldexplorer.co.th and realmetro.com citations as they only consisted of entire passages copied or closely paraphrased from the Thai Wikipedia. Plagiarising from Wikipedia (and into Wikipedia) is unfortunately quite common in Thai-language articles. While they're not that hard to recognise by those familiar with the language, I'm not quite sure what advice I can give when you're working through machine translations, which may hide the obvious similarities. It's still something to keep in mind if you come across articles that read suspiciously similarly. Weeding out poor sources is a skill that comes with experience, so you'll get better at it the longer you do online research in a topic.
 * There are a few other minor WP:Manual of Style issues like image placement (images should be placed within the relevant sections, below section headers) and See also link placement (only include links not already in the article), but you'll pick these up as you go. You probably already have the articles you've edited on your watchlist. Be sure to check the subsequent edits that other editors make; there's often a lot to learn from them. Finally, here's another belated welcome to Wikipedia, and again, thanks for your contributions. I hope you enjoy the place and keep writing. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * PS Since you mentioned translating dates, have you learned about the particularity of January–March dates prior to 1941 yet? (Before 1941, the New Year was reckoned on 1 April, so original dates from those three months should be subtracted by 542 rather than 543. For example, the foundation date of Chulalongkorn University is 26 March BE 2459, which corresponds to 26 March 1917, not 1916.) Things get complicated when modern writers sometimes convert these dates to count the year the modern way, usually without specifying which calendar scheme they're using, so pre-1941 dates between January and March need to be double-checked, especially since 1912 when the Buddhist Era was introduced. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind feedback, I'll make sure I follow your advice. Topeka-GuyWiki (talk) 13:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Hotels in Thailand has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Hotels in Thailand. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Heya, there is actually no need to swap the offline sources for online ones. We just need more information of the offline text like the title, or better yet, the isbn number or doi number of the published work. While online sources are better appreciated as they are easily accessible, offline sources are usable too, on the assumption that at least one other editor has access to the material from be it personal collections or libraries. – robertsky (talk) 04:36, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Jarrahdale
Please note that Info boxes should be that and in the western australian localities there is a generally accepted practice of trying to have them as info boxes and wP:NOTGALLERY - setting a precedent in such can leave to some horrible infobox disasters... JarrahTree 01:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Also over-riding:


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Is a problem... JarrahTree 01:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

OK I have reverted the edit, your call. I can just leave it as is, and ask for you to add/play with the article in smaller more managable chunks, so that the various issue can be explained...

or we can go through each issue separately... up to you...khob jai ja JarrahTree 01:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Surely, the history and demographics can be readded. Or was there something wrong. Topeka-GuyWiki (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ok with an answer like that, the fact that you seem to not understand the mechanics of the census data in the info box, or the gallery issue, the need for demographics breakdown in a locality from very small samples of population really is a problem - it sets a precedent - and for every locality in the state to have something similar is well beyond of the current editing capacity/rate for the state articles to have something similar. There are over-done metereological sections in locality articles - at least you didnt try that one.

I might sound particularly harsh - but localities are in most cases not more exceptional than others in the whole state - and really the detail of the breakdown at a particular census is, in my estimation undue even if it is a policy or not. The history is fine if adequately sourced/cites, but I would argue you have signalled your association with the locality - and there is a tendency to over-write your home territory - but the wider project is not the better for it - there are many localities with inadequate text about things much more trivial that could benefit your enthusiasm. All of this given in WP:AGF - in the hope that you understand the issues that I raise. If you need further clarification, please ask. JarrahTree 08:02, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

It is obvious from the considerable time and effort from other editors in advice on this page about your editing, that you have contributed very well to wikipedia, and that is very good. I do not wish to hamper your enthusiasm for your current home territory, I am just trying to flag the issues - specially the localised demography, if you wish to have further conversation about it - do not hesitate to ask! JarrahTree 08:17, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, I understand the demography and everything else you said. But what about the history? If there's a need to find more sources I will. Topeka-GuyWiki (talk) 09:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * please - go ahead - with the history material JarrahTree 13:16, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * But take care - large additions will attract curiosity about why, what - the large additions,

will make a reader wonder why this locality against another... and others might not be as friendly - you have been very lucky so far... JarrahTree 13:41, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay? I just have I love for preserving knowlegde. I edit the small pages that need love. Topeka-GuyWiki (talk) 13:47, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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Italy–Thailand relations
Great great work on this article! Thank you for your contributions. Zanahary (talk) 21:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! Arthur Taksin (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)