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2024 Israeli strikes on Yemen
Notable escalation of the Red Sea crisis. Article is fairly well developed and well sourced. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait to see if it leads to any further escalation - if not, this doesn’t seem too different than the Israeli retaliation after the Iranian drone attack, which ended up being the end of things with that, and that wasn’t posted either. The   Kip  (contribs) 18:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support: in terms of WP:NEWSORG. QalasQalas (talk) 19:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * ??? NEWSORG relates to if a source is reliable, not if an event is notable. The   Kip  (contribs) 19:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @The Kip, Reuters Associated Press cited. QalasQalas (talk) 21:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure if I follow - just because a news source reports on something doesn’t make it ITN-worthy. The   Kip  (contribs) 21:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait for further developments. ArkHyena (talk) 20:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Major, immoral and an illegal act of aggression. Kasperquickly (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For the third time in the last few weeks, the personal commentary is entirely unnecessary. The   Kip  (contribs) 00:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Toumani Diabaté

 * Toumani Diabaté died on July 19. He was a legendary Malian kora player, one of the most famous Malian musicians (perhaps the most famous) in the world. ꧁ Zanahary ꧂ 02:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ray Reardon
Welsh professional snooker player and six time world champion. Fats40boy11 (talk) 11:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support an FA, so there should be no prose/sourcing concerns. &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support FA quality, no issues. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support with a heavy heart. Absolute icon of mine. Quality is great, might take some time to get over.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Ready it is an FA, ready to be posted.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 16:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Kevan Gosper
Australian sprinter and IOC administrator. 240F:7A:6253:1:B4E6:BF25:CCA1:9374 (talk) 09:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose IOC section needs more sources.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sheila Jackson Lee
American congressional representative from Houston. Will update with a proper news source once available - CNN reported it live just minutes ago. The  Kip  (contribs) 03:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support: A remarkable woman who dedicated her life to public service. Article is also updated with sufficient quality. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support an impactful and long-serving member of the United States congress. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Supporrt Blurb, shes an incumbent congresswomen Lukt64 (talk) 06:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, barring maybe the sitting House Speaker, a single congressperson doesn’t come particularly close to the level of a blurb. The   Kip  (contribs) 07:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Assignments and memberships need references. Stephen 09:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Wait Assignments and Caucus memberships need references and Eulogies section needs to be sorted out.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Iryna Farion
Ukrainian politician who was assassinated in Lviv. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment 1 statement needs citations; once that statement is either sourced or removed, then this can be posted. Jaguarnik (talk) 02:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC) Support all statements have been provided with a statement. The article should be good to go.Jaguarnik (talk) 05:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted Stephen 09:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Toumani Diabaté
Mooonswimmer 22:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Support A few unsourced statements and typical of musicians, the discography is uncited. Citations added. yorkshiresky (talk) 07:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose few cn tags needs to be sorted out.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've sorted out two, just one left in the discography section. Mooonswimmer 20:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Several {cn} tags remaining, including one for his DoB. --PFHLai (talk) 19:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've sourced that and took care of another missing citation as well. Mooonswimmer 20:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) ICJ case on Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories
Boud (talk) 22:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support as the court noted, this ruling has significance beyond Israel and Palestine (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Article looks good. Very notable indeed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability, notable and far beyond the scope of the ongoing war (the request for the case was registered by the ICJ in January 2023). I'm afraid the "Reactions" section might be a bit too unbalanced, as the vast majority of the people quoted are Israeli politicians. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 01:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support for notability and international significance. ArkHyena (talk) 01:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability particularly because the ruling says Israel "should put an end to its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories, desist from creating new settlements, and evacuate those already established." Currently, the formatting of the reactions section is suboptimal, and should be broken into subsections; for example, see the South Africa's genocide case against Israel article. Gödel2200 (talk) 01:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per above. BilledMammal (talk) 02:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability and quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 02:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Somewhat oppose on quality only - the "Oral Presentation" and "Reactions" sections, as typical, are just lists of any thrown reaction to this ruling and should be neither trying to be complete nor simply presented as a list. The Oral Presentations should likely be made into a narrative to describe the major points made by the countries as a group, for example, not how each country presented. Also, if we can indicate that this is a non-binding verdict (because Israel, nor the US for that matter have signed onto the ICJ recognition)  in the blurb, that would be helpful. --M asem  (t) 02:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per all above. The   Kip  (contribs) 02:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support And for once I have no concern with the list-y sections. The first is a part of the court proceedings, right? And it's well-written even if it looks like flag soup from a glance. The reactions is not the best, but it's less "X from Country said thoughts and prayers" and more relevant people reflecting on material consequences. Do I like the bullet layout for the reactions? Not particularly, but (even considering the page protection) it seems like a valid way to stop that section becoming a repository for unsubstantial responses. Kingsif (talk) 03:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * the problem with the court proceedings is that we don't normally document cases to that level. When and where they happened, sure, and the broad scope of the arguments, but just listing what each country said without further context is not really helpful. — M asem (t) 04:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Nominal support: Significant ruling from the ICJ, but as we did not post previous ICJ rulings on the conflict, I am not sure whether there is a precedent for posting this either. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The most recent ICJ case proposed for posting was the South Africa v Israel genocide case in January, but iirc that was a preliminary ruling and was also considerably more weak in content (basically politely asked Israel to not commit genocidal acts, and politely asked Hamas to release the hostages), so it ultimately didn't develop consensus to post. By comparison, this is a far more concrete ruling, and this case has been running since long before the war broke out anyways. The   Kip  (contribs) 05:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per all above MAL MALDIVE (talk) 06:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose As Israel isn't part of this system and the court has no way to enforce its rulings, the impact should be as minimal as when another uninvolved party declares as much. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Israel is in fact part of the United Nations system. Neljack (talk) 02:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted Stephen 09:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: Nguyen Phu Trong
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooonswimmer (talk • contribs) 12:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Blurb Support RD, he had been General Secretary of the Vietnamese Communist Party since 2011. World leaders are definitely notable enough 5.57.241.186 (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support RD While one unsourced statement remains, that shouldn't hold up the article going to RD. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC) Oppose The China section is unsourced. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've edited that section and added the sources. Inclusion Activist (talk) 13:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Blurb Support RD, he was the most powerful leader in Vietnam, and argubaly one of the most influential since the country's reunification. He was also the only leader to have hosted Biden, Putin and Xi this year. --Inclusion Activist (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Blurb due to his notability as (former Vietnamese president until 2021 and as) General Secretary until today, being the highest-ranking leader and basically holding the power in the country. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 13:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Nothing in the article suggests why he would be a major figure. Just simply holding a major political position is not sufficient for this determination. We need details of how he was influential and the like. — M asem (t) 14:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "During his tenure, Trọng pursued a wide anti-corruption campaign, implicating numerous senior officials to a degree unprecedented in Vietnamese political history. His foreign policy, known as "bamboo diplomacy", sought to balance Vietnam's relations with both the United States and China. Trọng is considered one of the most influential Vietnamese leaders since Hồ Chí Minh." Directly from the article's lead. Have you read it, per chance? 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 14:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If that is truly that significant (and it could be, I don't know), there should be far more commentary around this topic, typically in a type of Legacy or Impact section though it doesn't necessarily need to be there. It cannot be just a demonstration of a factual account of his role in the government. — M asem (t) 16:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "Just simply holding a major political position is not sufficient for this determination." Haven't we always blurbed world leaders, though? Trong led his country of over 100 million people for 13 years, and his governance was evidently consequential. Kurtis (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support RD Considering the position of General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam is the powerful leadership position in Vietnam and under his tenure witnessed the increase of international standing of Vietnam when it comes to diplomacy such as the country's relations between superpowers like China, Russia and the United States. Toadboy123 (talk) 16:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose blurb Not every world leader should receive one. Not ready for RD as it needs some sources and MOS:SANDWICH issues to be resolved. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * CN's have been resolved. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 18:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support blurb I think any incumbent world leader that dies in office should be blurbed. Article looks good and IMO two cn tags shouldn't prevent it from getting posted. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Succession What matters most is the person that is in charge now. According to the Reuters report, President Tô Lâm has now assumed those duties in an acting capacity, pending a party decision on what to do next.  We should blurb both the death and handover together. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair point, the Sec. General in Vietnam is the position of power per List of current heads of state and government, and thus the position change is ITNR. — M asem (t) 18:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait I'm confused. The page lists general secretary as head of government, but Prime Minister of Vietnam says it is head of government? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The PM of Vietnam article says that the PM is the head of govt. & the President of Vietnam article says that the President is the head of state, but neither of those positions is considered the most powerful official in Vietnam. The General Secretary article says that the General Secretary is the most powerful official in Vietnam (& that person is sometimes the President as well). Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In communist countries, as communist party is the sole ruling party, the general secretary is in charge of running the party structures across the country while prime minister in general is responsible for running the cabinet and governmental ministries of the country - Toadboy123 (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support blurb As per above, also support posting his successor when the time comes, or adding to the blurb that Tô Lâm succeeds him as acting GS Sharrdx (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability Incumbent world leaders dying in office are pretty blurb-worthy.  Bremps  ...  19:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support blurb He was the most powerful leader in the country with a long tenure, serving from 2011 to 2024. He died in office which is pretty notable since he was serving a record-breaking third term. Vnsg304 (talk) 23:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support blurb rare death that qualifies for blurb IMO. Death of de facto state leader has immediate political impacts. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support blurb as de facto state leader dying in office. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 01:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted as blurb Stephen 02:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Mention the Succession That's what makes this R, rather than RD, after all. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) July 2024 global cyber outages
Article hasn't been updated but if reporting accurate then this is definitely notable enough. Impacts include flight groundings and emergency phone services. &#091;osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 07:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe worth creating a 2024 CrowdStrike outages article? &#091;osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 07:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks to be at July 2024 global IT outages currently. Ionmars10 (talk) 07:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright we ball. Draft:2024 CrowdStrike outages &#091;osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 07:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, one of the largest IT outages in a long time (ever?) and causing clear issues all across the globe - the July 2024 global IT outages article however is not ready for posting. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 07:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I think July 2024 global IT outages or 2024 CrowdStrike outages would be the appropriate target article. Plus, the CrowdStrike article is tagged and has some issues. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in principle Worthy of ITN for sure, but only issues on quality, as the article is short. Then again, at the time this comment is written, July 2024 global cyber outages article contains pretty much everything that is know about the issue, so...  Mel ma nn   08:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support a blurb for July 2024 global cyber outages - I suggested a simple one above, edits welcome. Sam Walton (talk) 08:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in principle per above comments. Mellk (talk) 09:03, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on significance, oppose on article quality The subject is definitely ITN-worthy, but the articles is not, being essentially just a poorly-curated list of specific individual impacts. Thryduulf (talk) 09:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support With airlines grounded and medical services restricted, this is huge. I've been expecting global dependence on the internet and such software to become an existential risk comparable with the pandemic and here we are.  Picking up the pieces will take some time, the impact outweighs the uncertainty. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * left-pad taught us nothing, apparently.  Bremps  ...  22:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, serious disruption covering a variety of industries worldwide and over 1,000 flights have been cancelled thus far. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted Stephen 10:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Post-post comment: Just so you know, I've added a few live-blogs on the article's talk page, so you can use them to help expand the page and make it less patchy than it currently looks. Oltrepier (talk) 10:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Article is not of great quality. Yes, it ticks the long-enough box, but its just listing events and has no real structure or narrative to it. This is not representive of how we normally write articles on news coverage for an encyclopedia. --M asem (t) 11:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment As pointed out above, the article is not of sufficient quality and mostly presents a list of individual impacts. This was another bad posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Pull Article quality is really bad. Can we revisit this in 12h+? Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Pull until article quality is improved.  Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 17:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Post-posting support Unsurprisingly the article has improved with lots of eyes on it and there is no need to pull now. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It still has the problem that it just making a list of incidents, now grouped by field than by country. These articles should be written far more narratively, not trying to describe each singular incident since this was a clear global problem. — M asem (t) 02:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course the article can be improved, but it is plainly not so bad that it has to be yanked immediately from the Main Page. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:11, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * At this point I am not asking for a pull, but I think the way this article started and even presently is is a systemic problem of how we are not writing about current events in an encyclopedic style but instead just compiling every case without thought of a cohesive article that would be how we would have written about the same event if we were doing this ten years after the fact. This has become far too common and widespread and we need to be demanding a bit more editorial considerations rather just listifying parts of an event. M asem (t) 12:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: M. S. Valiathan
Added some references. Still there is manual of style tag in the article. Pachu Kannan (talk) 09:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Article looks very much improved. Great work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support article is in a good shape.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Ursula von der Leyen is re-elected
The election of the head of the European Commission has been considered ITN-worthy in the past as head of government of a | sui generis entity and as a major global political figure. Von der Leyen's article is in very good condition and, looking back in history, the re-election for a second term of an EC president is not that usual. We should remeber also that 2024 European Parliament election failed to be included in Main Page in June. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Nigerian general strike
Grnrchst (talk) 12:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose The article says that "The country's national grid and its airports were shut down on 3 June 2024, as were banks, hospitals and schools...The following day, the NLC and TUC suspended the strike, pending talks with the government over raising the minimum wage.", but it does not indicate that a situation like that was occurring at the time the deal was agreed upon. I think that this would only warrant a blurb if something at the scale of what was happening on 3 June was also happening at the time of the resolution. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Cheng Pei-pei
Chinese actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:D4D8:CC5F:57E2:43F2 (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose Filmography seems to be a common stumbling block.  Bremps  ...  19:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose filmography is entirely unsourced.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Abner Haynes
Member of the Chiefs Hall of Fame. 240F:7A:6253:1:D4D8:CC5F:57E2:43F2 (talk) 01:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose Professional career section's orange tag needs to be resolved.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Lou Dobbs
Relatively good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 20:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose While article is in relatively good shape, there's ten cn tags. Support I've fixed the issues at hand. Article looks ready. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support I hated this man but his article is in a good shape.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Not ready. There are two CN tags, the one about raising four children definitely needs addressing before it can be posted. Thryduulf (talk) 16:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Added reference for his 4 children. Natg 19 (talk) 16:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Bob Newhart
Needs work, but a big name in entertainment.Natg 19 (talk) 20:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Regrettable oppose On quality. Article needs ref work. I would support a blurb once issues are fixed, but I feel that the article needs a legacy section or something to reflect the impact he had on the comedy world. Obits are calling him a legend and the "dean" of deadpan comedy. I'm sure something reflecting how he influenced a generation of comedians/had a massive impact on the comedy world would be beneficial. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not Ready Referencing is quite poor. This is going to need some work. [Side note: GOD DAMN IT!] -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support when Refs Updated A hair shy of a blurb. CoatCheck (talk) 20:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support I know him mainly from his original monologues which were often played on BBC Radio. It's easy to imagine a similar incredulous skit about Wikipedia – "and you let anyone edit it!?"  The article is fine - mostly the usual busywork remains but that's not significant.  I have clarified that his famous stammer was natural, not affected, and that's the sort of detail that actually matters. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not ready. This is still orange tagged with many explicit inline CN tags and unmarked unsourced paragraphs. Thryduulf (talk)
 * I'm open to a blurb (if the article is improved) as someone who reached the pinnacle of their profession. Per the NYT, Newhart "basically invented the stand-up special" and had a eponymous comedy TV show whose finale is still "viewed as one of the greatest finales in television history", so much so that the NYT ran an separate article about it after Newhart's death. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, although somebody citeneeded-bombed the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose outstanding number of cn tags needs to be resolved, Although, I would have been okay with a blurb but article's quality won't allow it.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose on quality. Will only support an RD once it's in good shape. - SchroCat (talk) 19:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Fresia Saavedra
Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support It's a bit on the short end, but there are no issues with the content in the article. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support article looks ready indeed.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Pat Williams (basketball)
NBA executive and co-founder of the Orlando Magic. 240F:7A:6253:1:D4D8:CC5F:57E2:43F2 (talk) 01:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * not ready There are several outstanding citation needed tags. Thryduulf (talk) 09:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose several cn tags.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Bernice Johnson Reagon
Thriley (talk) 01:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not ready, numerous citation needed tags. Star action  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Not ready same issues remain.  Bremps  ...  19:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose several cn tags and lede needs to be rewritten.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 13:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement
Ongoing protests in Bangladesh. The article needs some copyediting, and currently has an empty section. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Despite a frowned-upon gallery section, the article seem alright for mainpage posting. Seems major.  Bremps  ...  19:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. I agree with you on both points. 64.114 etc 19:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support, the protests seem to be growing in both size and violence. Article looks solid enough. The   Kip  (contribs) 19:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. The Kip has a point to this. Solid article, growing protests. 209.121.102.221 (talk) 20:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose Article is tagged with a copy editing tag. Will support once it's addressed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now until something substantial happens. Protests are commonplace in every corner of the world and are not automatically ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I mean, six people died. Hundreds are wounded.  Bremps  ...  21:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now Not the best prose and poorly formatted. Of dubious notability for ITN Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support – The copyedit tag is a bit of a problem, but I think the article is in a good state overall. I think the correct date for this is probably July 16, when the Chhatra League fired on university students. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 07:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support clearly important to a lot of people Kasperquickly (talk) 09:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Important and well-cited article. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 09:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose on quality. Apart from a lot of poor prose, there are uncited statements (some contentious) together with a lot of "he said, she said" material which doesn't appear to match the sources. For example, the sentence In light of these events, the Prime Minister questioned the education of the protesters and described their behaviour as "very regrettable" is sourced to this, so the first part of the sentence is synthesis from the source, and the words "very regrettable" don't appear at all.  Or this section In the early hours of 16 July, at around 12:15 am, members of the Chhatra League attacked Jahangirnagar University students using firearms is sourced to this in which firearms aren't mentioned. And this is just a couple of the English sources I've looked at, not being able to read Bengali which makes up at least half of the sources. Black Kite (talk) 10:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Over 100 deaths, total mobile internet shutdown, 7.5 million Bangladeshi diaspora can’t communicate with their relatives, they have no connection with their family and beloved one, don’t know even if they are death or alive, military curfew imposed  !! We guys can wait and carry on other best/important things!! Pathetic world!! 2A0A:A546:7913:0:A5AA:AB38:D931:A81D (talk) 05:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Obviously these events are important, but we only post articles that are also in good shape. Please see WP:ITN. Star action  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 20:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: David Morrow (commentator)
Australian sports commentator. 240F:7A:6253:1:A573:E493:327E:FFAE (talk) 13:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support article is in good shape with no CN tags. Aydoh8 (talk &#124; contribs) 05:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I suggest that his death should appear in the body of the article and once that's done, this is good to go.  Schwede 66  02:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Posted Stephen 02:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Muscat mosque shooting
Ainty Painty (talk) 04:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support on notability such incidents are rare occurrence in Oman and majority of deaths are of foreign citizens therefore it is notable but article currently needs a bit expansion.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 05:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability I agree with the Prince of Punjab. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:1441:FA7C:FF75:8B58 (talk) 06:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support; it is sure agreeable that rare occurrences are notable for being rare.2605:8D80:325:ABB8:9C9B:AB1E:5AFC:DE95 (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Incoherent rationale. Struck through.  Bremps  ...  19:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What’s with the sudden increase in these oddly-worded/near-nonsensical votes popping up on ITN/C lately? This is at least the fourth or fifth vote I’ve seen from an IP in the last few weeks that could’ve conceivably been AI-generated. The   Kip  (contribs) 07:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's... weird. I don't think it's AI, but I'm far from certain. Kicking222 (talk) 13:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support even though the article does need a bit of an expansion. 64.114 etc 06:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose on quality as target article’s barely longer than a stub. Weak support on notability, given the rarity of such attacks in Oman. The   Kip  (contribs) 07:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose on quality due to the length of the article. Also, the article should make it clear that these events are rare in Oman. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have attempted to make that clear on the article. Bte3000 (talk) 16:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Should mention in the blurb that this is the first instance of ISIS launching an attack in Oman.  Bremps  ...  19:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose on quality 15:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bte3000 (talk • contribs)


 * Support on notability, with no comment on quality (haven't read the article yet). Oman is arguably the most peaceful country in the Middle East, so a massacre there&mdash;especially if it was done by ISIS or any other terrorist organization&mdash;is highly notable. Kurtis (talk) 02:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Who, what, where, when, why and how are answered. It'd be best if we mention that Oman has never suffered an ISIS attack before.  Bremps  ...  02:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The mosque is not notable. None of the people involved are notable. There have yet to be any demonstrated widespread societal effects. The big ugly alien  ( talk ) 06:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose The article does not do a good job of explaining this in context. The fact that the attack took place in Oman does not seem significant as this is not a secular political issue.  It seems to be a traditional expression of religious sectarian violence which goes back centuries.  See Terrorist attacks during Ashura.  Insofar as ISIS was involved, this makes it common rather than rare.  See List of terrorist incidents in 2024 in which the count for ISIS seems to be about 11 for the year so far. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Rwandan general election
Star action ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 00:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support if ready; generally, news items about general elections always go on the main page. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:54AB:165D:9F95:AB8B (talk) 00:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support The article appears to be of decent quality. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. It is of decent quality. 2605:8D80:325:ABB8:3CC8:AC81:81CB:8A (talk) 03:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. I agree with all of you. 64.114 etc 03:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Article is of sufficient quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This election is of... dubious, shall we say, fairness and the article does not fully reflect that reality.  Bremps  ...  04:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * TLDR only two of the eight candidates who wanted to run against Kagame were allowed to run, and Kagame allegedly won 99% of the vote.  Bremps  ...  04:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose This was a sham election and the article does not show that. Also, WP:ITNELECTIONS mentions Changes in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government but he has been in his office for almost two and a half decades now.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 04:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this was marked as ITNR because it was a general election, not because it was a change in the executive. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But the blurb have no mention of the parliamentary elections and mentions only the presidential one.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 16:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The current blurb mentions the general election as a whole, which includes both the parliamentary and presidential ones. It explicitly mentions the reelection of Kagame as he is the executive, but it certainly could also mention the results in the parliament. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose per . Andrew🐉(talk) 06:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose per PrinceOfPunjab. If it does end up posted, I’d support using the “announced as the winner of the election” wording we’ve had for previous elections of dubious fairness. The   Kip  (contribs) 07:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the article is still ITN/R as a general election, but the article does not mention the parliament's election results at all. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 07:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. While probably not "free and fair", the election did actually take place and the people did vote for Kagame, so this election is covered by ITN/R and we've generally always posted it in the past. It might be good for the "aftermath" section to mention any international organisations saying it wasn't free and fair, but I'm not sure there are any yet. No doubt when that happens, we can update the article but for now I think it's good to go. I've also updated the results to show the provisional figures for parliament. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose we don't know how many people actually voted for Kagame. Significant election fraud is not out of the question. It would require sources to claim this election is different from the many sham elections held in Rwanda since 1994. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Article sort of explains why the election was not free and fair - i.e. real opponents of Kagame are barred from even standing in the first place, the other "candidates" are Government-approved ones to ensure the appearance of democracy - but it should be (and needs to be) a lot clearer. Currently a casual reader would assume that Kagame is enthusiastically backed by nearly 100% of the Rwandan population, whereas in reality the claim that turnout was 98% is ... fanciful. Black Kite (talk) 11:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per Amakuru. Wikipedia gives cited facts so readers can draw their own conclusions. This article meets NPOV adequately already, and when more refs regarding its lack of fairness should come, those would be welcome too. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 15:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 *  Support per Amakuru, although I do believe the election was unfair it's still a election which was voted for. We should add sources saying if the election was fair or not when they come Sharrdx (talk) 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- unfair and unfree election is not ITNR. -- Rockstone Send me a message!  20:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not presumed notable, but not necessarily non-notable.  Bremps  ...  21:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Blaylockjam10 @Chaotic Enby @Andrew Davidson @PrinceofPunjab @Black Kite I've added more to the article hopefully demonstrating more critically the way the election was not free and fair. Let me know if the article still needs more work in that department. I've also updated the altblurb with more details & with slightly different wording (including the results of the parliamentary election). Let me know if that needs more work as well (in particular - is it too long for ITN standards?) Star action  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 22:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Much better now.  Bremps  ...  00:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's the blurb that's the issue rather than the article. Presenting this in a formulaic way is a false equivalence which misleads the reader. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Per norm, it's a national election. Scu ba (talk) 23:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose blurb Although notable and the article is looking better, I oppose the current blurb per PrinceofPunjab and The Kip. The current blurb is misleading by omission. It misleads the reader into a sense of equivalency by using the same terminology we have used for actual free and fair elections. I do support altblurb. Flipand Flopped  ツ 01:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on notability&mdash;A glorified referendum on Kagame's continued dictatorship it is, and the blurb should make this clear, but it's an actual election in a de jure "democracy". It merits a mention on the main page. Kurtis (talk) 02:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted, there's no section in the article on how it was not free or fair, Stephen 02:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Post-posting straw poll on changing it to "declared winner" This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As stated above, I support this as the default when the election isn’t considered free/fair by RSes. The   Kip  (contribs) 03:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As long as the article is updated to align to any wording that you want here. Stephen 03:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support "declared winner" I think the following is enough:  Bremps  ...  06:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's fine as is I would think. I'm not a fan of editorialising in blurbs, and while this argument comes up time and time again here for Russian, Rwandan and other elections I don't think we've ever deviated from the simple statement of who won and leaving the detail to the article. And therefore it would be wrong to carve out an exception for this specific case. If there's a prior precedent then please point it out to me. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 07:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * comment here's an easy solution, just mention the percentage of the vote (99%) that he got, that should tell everyone with an iq of above like 3 what that election was like Kasperquickly (talk) 09:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Won't work, since reporting isn't done. Well, "reporting".  Bremps  ...  15:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * that should tell everyone with an iq of above like 3 what that election was like
 * As you've been told before, quit it with the personalized commentary. The   Kip  (contribs) 19:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For the Russian election, the blurb was That’s still too weak for my taste & I’d write it as “announced as” instead of “announced to be”, but it’s better than the current blurb for the Rwandan election. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Courtney
Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support, article in good shape. Star action  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 00:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support article is ready to be posted.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 05:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted—Bagumba (talk) 22:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joe Bryant
Kobe's father and professional player and coach. Needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 16:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Article needs ref work, has some cn tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose at least three cn tags.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 04:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Added more refs, needs one for international coaching record, though perhaps that section could just be removed. Natg 19 (talk) 17:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jacques Boudet
French actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:64A3:5EA7:A3BF:F045 (talk) 09:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose the entire article has one source and that too of death, has very little prose and mostly a Listicle.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Article needs major work such as expansion and sourcing. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Still a stub with 130 words of prose, followed by huge tables of unsourced materials. Please expand the text and add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 19:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Syrian parliamentary election
Was it a free and fair election, no, but it was still a national election and deserves a spot in the news per ITNR Scu ba (talk) 03:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support ALT with "declared winner" language as is consensus for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt per above. The   Kip  (contribs) 04:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose the picture of Assad who was not standing for election. If ITN/R requires some compulsory record of this rubber stamp process, then we only need the rubber stamp. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Moved nomination to 15 July, which is when the election actually happened. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Buxtun
Whistleblower who revealed the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. He died back in May, but from what I can tell, it was reported in reliable sources on July 15. Legoktm (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support looks alright to me.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 04:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Posted Stephen 02:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Norm Hewitt
New Zealand All Blacks rugby union player. 240F:7A:6253:1:3588:1738:72A2:F85A (talk) 07:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose there is an cn tag and Career highlights list needs more more sources.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK  15:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Chinese cooking oil scandal
"The investigative report into the latest scandal revealed that two tanker trucks had been loaded with cooking oil for delivery immediately after carrying chemical products, a cost-saving measure that the media said had become an "open secret" in the supply chain." Count Iblis (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose One sentence update is not sufficient for a posting.
 * <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah</b>, BSBA<b style="color:#ff0000">Talk</b> 17:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose Two dirty tanker trucks is relatively insignificant.
 * Celjski Grad (talk) 17:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Count, it seems unbelievable that by now you don't know how ITNR works. Please add a blurb and explain why this enjoys special notability. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose the nomination comment is longer than the update in the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Copa América final
Article is well-referenced as of nomination, with a few updates being added. — MarkH21talk 04:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose due to missing prose summary, rest-of-tournament sections, and description of the pre-match ticket fiasco that pushed the match back by an hour. Will try to make improvements tomorrow.  Sounder Bruce  04:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The sumamry & pre-match sections have now been started with a few paragraphs each. — MarkH21talk 05:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above, article's simply not ready. Do want to note for anyone that may raise it - this is correctly placed on the 15th, as due to the delay/extra time the Final ended after midnight eastern. The   Kip  (contribs) 04:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I thought it goes by UTC? Otherwise Super Bowl would always end hours after the bot adds the day after the local day. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support when ready. Seems to be more than enough text about the Miami security issues. Nfitz (talk) 05:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support when ready, big win for a great team in a big tournament. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:E1C5:79C8:157A:391E (talk) 05:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Notability is not an issue as the event is listed on ITNR (presumed to be notable). Focus solely on article quality.  Bremps  ...  05:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * ’’’Procedural support’” guess we can’t have only real news on ITN forever :/ This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We get it, you don’t like sportsball. Doesn’t mean you have to insert your personalized commentary/complaints every time a sporting event comes up at ITNC - this isn’t the first time in recent memory. The   Kip  (contribs) 09:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, like "Old Man Dies" it's getting very wearisome now. Black Kite (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Except "old man dies" has an argument to be made for it; complaining about ITN/R sports stories has none. Kicking222 (talk) 21:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I suppose so.
 * Both are tiring, but OMD is rooted in a legitimate criticism of ITNC (albeit one I disagree with), while the “sports bad” comments amount to contrarianism - these are easily notable enough by our standards. The   Kip  (contribs) 01:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Why and how does it always come back to death blurbs? It's the black hole of all ITN discussion, sucking everything towards it.  Bremps  ...  05:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment If both this blurb and the previous Euro one are posted, they could be merged into one blurb to avoid repetition (e.g: In association football, Spain defeat England to win UEFA Euro 2024, and Argentina defeat Colombia to win the 2024 Copa América.) Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 09:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Considering they’ll be run back to back, can’t say I’d be opposed to this proposal. The   Kip  (contribs) 09:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I endorse this proposal. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * They are separate events. Would we merge any other type of news event together because they happened one day after the other? ("In disaster news, earthquakes in Anyville and Randomtown kill 21 and 34 people respectively"). Black Kite (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, if only to not have two very similar events take up two bullet points. Wqwt (talk) 16:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We have.  Bremps  ...  02:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Two separate events clash. Unnamelessness (talk) 15:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I feel that two events in the same sport can be put on the same line (many of the two winning teams are probably teammates at club level); that's not the same as merging either of these with Wimbledon. As with disasters, I feel like if earthquakes hit California and Texas on the same day, that would be posted on the same line because the response would probably be co-ordinated - different to posting an earthquake in the USA and one in China on the same line. I swear I've seen joint posting for when different European leagues have ended on the same day, or in the same week as the Champions League. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This does make a good bit of sense. They're both continental championship finals in the exact same sport. We don't post a separate blurb for two separate finals from Wimbledon, for instance. Of course, that does hinge on this getting posted in a timely manner anyway; right now this article suffers from the all-too-common problem for championship finals of being just a table dumb with little to no prose. Nottheking (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The article has a dozen paragraphs of prose and one table. — MarkH21talk 18:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on principle. I've got a question though, shouldn't the blurb for this and the UEFA final ITN say that "... (Spain / Argentina) defeats (England / Colombia) ..." instead of the singular defeat since the blurbs are in present tense and the subject nations are singular nouns? SpacePod9 (talk) 23:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Each side of the Pond seems to have a different opinion on which is broken English (defeat or defeats). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If it's an ENGVAR issue, since this Copa America involved North America, maybe "defeats" is the way to go. But IDK, it seems like it's more to do with certain countries referring to their national teams as "they", and some referring to their national teams as "it", and the subsequent verb agreement (they defeat, it defeats). In that case, we should probably look to the WP articles of the relevant national teams to see which pronoun seems to be in use, and make the blurb agree. Kingsif (talk) 04:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * See the current Euro 2024 blurb for the standard method of avoiding this issue. Black Kite (talk) 05:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support, also on principle. 2605:8D80:325:ABB8:4CDA:C019:1E39:3DB (talk) 02:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. I was going to be the one to nominate this article, but thanks for doing so. 64.114 etc 03:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted combined blurb. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 05:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I like it They're close in form, time and (questionable) prose quality. Nobody urgently needs to learn the score. The important thing is the finals (each one final) are featured, rather than divisive words about winning or losing. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you - that's a well-handled combined blurb. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) UEFA Euro 2024 final
The article for the final may need some sourcing work. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose until there is a prose recap of the match. PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 20:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle. Congratulations to Spain for the fully deserved victory.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You're well aware that "support in principle" is meaningless for an ITN/R article. Either say that you think it's ready or say why you don't think it's ready. Kicking222 (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Per answer above; in principle. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:4DE:B079:824F:421A (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This is also a big win for a major world country in one of the major international tournaments that conclude today. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:4DE:B079:824F:421A (talk) 21:09, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Jeez in the 21st century any team that wins the Euros is a big/important country... yes, I'm even talking about Portugal and Greece. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose the final as the primary article as it seems quite perfunctory, doesn't provide any narrative for the game and needs work for issues like tense. The UEFA Euro 2024 article would be better as the primary article as it covers the entire event but that needs work too. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Those oppose votes that the article on the final lacks a prose recap of the match only 20 minutes after its end are very unproductive and may delay posting this because the majority of admins here blindly count votes. We all know that this won’t be posted in the next two hours, at least.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support: The prose summary has been started and is well-referenced. No preference for primary-linked article or wording in the blurb. — MarkH21talk 21:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT! Apparently, it’s agreeable that the summary is well authentically referenced with good citations. 207.194.85.134 (talk) 23:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well this is clearly an AI chatbot re-writing of the !vote directly above... Kingsif (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support article looks good to go. Aydoh8 (talk &#124; contribs) 02:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Prose summary is brief but adequate, and the rest looks ready. The   Kip  (contribs) 03:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As it stands, the prose summary is far too short for a major match.  Sounder Bruce  03:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment defeats* Jiaminglimjm (talk) 05:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Nope WP:ENGVAR- defeat is correct in British English. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 06:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment If both this blurb and the next Copa América one are posted, they could be merged into one blurb to avoid repetition (e.g: In association football, Spain defeat England to win UEFA Euro 2024, and Argentina defeat Colombia to win the 2024 Copa América.) Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 09:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's wise to merge them as it may delude people that it's a single event or two closely related events, especially when we have a combined blurb on the Wimbledon Championships already on the main page.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No, they are completely separate events. Every year we get a glut of sporting ITN/Rs around this time, it's just one of those things. Black Kite (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But it would avoid the tiff of which one gets posted on top and in turn lasts longer. I get they are different events, but still "continent level championship for national teams in the same sport at the same time" is close enough that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. But no strong opinion either way, just seems like it would avoid some drama.  nableezy  - 17:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

*Oppose on quality (and unmarked as Ready). Four sentences of prose on the entire final match is not sufficient. Black Kite (talk) 11:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's good. Marked Ready again. Black Kite (talk) 15:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support  there really is nothing more you can write about the match, the quality is good enough Reme77 (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support I've made the summary four paragraphs now, two for each half. Kingsif (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * anyone available to post this? Natg 19 (talk) 00:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted the ALT blurb.  Schwede 66  01:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I updated the blurb due to the usual ENGVAR issues (especially as the one used was the NA "wins"). Black Kite (talk) 04:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Evan Wright
Author of Generation Kill. Article could use some reorganizing (I'm new to this so lmk if I'm doing this wrong). CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 18:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Wait good is in a good shape, only thing holding it back is that the Published works section needs sourcing.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 15:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak support Overall good shape. Two cn tags shouldn't keep it from posting IMO. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Several {cn} remaining, including one for his DoB. --PFHLai (talk) 13:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Wimbledon 2024
I think the article is in a good enough shape to be posted.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 16:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support We should get this done quickly because there will be the UEFA result to post soon. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support unlike most tennis articles nominated here, this one actually has some decent tournament summaries and so meets WP:ITNQUALITY. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 17:33, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems to be in a good enough state. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Article is well sourced and has a good amount of prose about the matches. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note I'm going to post this when the image is protected. Black Kite (talk) 19:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jacoby Jones
American football wide receiver. Article needs a decent bit of work. The  Kip  (contribs) 16:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: Noting that I did a significant amount of work on the article to clean it up, including adding about 20 references. I've added myself as an updater, hope that's ok Hey man im josh (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Just a further detail, the only tag on the article now is to expand the Houston Texans section. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can that section realistically be expanded much, though? It seems he didn't do a whole lot during his time in Houston. The   Kip  (contribs) 17:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Stephen, as the guy who often handles posting - do you think this is good to go? The   Kip  (contribs) 18:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Wait Houston Texans orange tag needs to be resolved otherwise good to go.  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 15:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Jacoby Jones carries an orange {expand} tag and two {cn} tags. --PFHLai (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shannen Doherty

 * Oppose There are CN tags. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. The article is in good shape, no remaining tags. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Scheridon (talk) 12:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support – Article is in good shape indeed. No such thing as an image RD of course, but I'm glad you included the image here as it drew my attention. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 13:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Too many Cn tags.—Bagumba (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Tagging several non-exceptional claims (some covered in the obituaries), without further contribution, and then opposing an RD based on your own tags? The article had 80 citations too. I don't really have the words, but I'm disappointed. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Bearas (talk) 05:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak support Two cn tags shouldn't keep this from posting...I think. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted Stephen 09:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Suspension of Alice Guo
Really big incident in the Philippines, a lot of news sources talking about it, I might as well try to put it on the main page. 11:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Subnational incident that doesn't rise to the level of impact required for a main page posting.
 * <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah</b>, BSBA<b style="color:#ff0000">Talk</b> 11:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose This seems to be stale; Guo was suspended from office on 3 June, and the NBI investigation confirmed her identity on 27 June . An arrest warrant was issued on 13 July, but this seems to have been for the Philippine equivalent of Contempt of Congress rather than any other malfeasance, and besides that arrests themselves are very rarely posted here. Curbon7 (talk) 12:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose The suspension itself is stale, and the story is a subnational incident. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per the above. The wording of the proposed blurb is weird as well, and this definitely doesn't rise even to a national level of significance. (If Andy Burnham lost his job, would we post it here? When Nicola Sturgeon or Ron De Santis were in trouble, did we post it?) But also, this was rightly closed as a no-hoper, and it's been reopened by an IP user. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose and re-close, not going to get posted as per the above, so this should be re-closed (and IP editor re-opened it previously). <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)