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 * Hi! Shouldnt it only be active festivals? Bhdshoes2 (talk) 01:01, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Why only active festivals? The rest of the article has historical data and The Bamboozle is a notable event on its own. Alansohn (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok! It just seemed old and out of date to me. Last one in AP was a long time ago. But if you think it should stay, sounds good to me. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * ok thanks. Sorry - New to this area. I wanted to capture the notion of those criticisms clearly and neutrally. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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List of film festivals in New Jersey
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 * Thanks Djflem. Makes sense Bhdshoes2 (talk) 10:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * ...and these edits are a step forward, but can I ask that these external links be formatted as proper references, as is done throughout the article, rather than just placing the links between ref tags and brackets? Alansohn (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait now youve lost me - i used refill.toolforge.org to create proper citations. I must have messed up. Weird! Bhdshoes2 (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohhhh. It is the brackets - they need to be removed Bhdshoes2 (talk) 14:57, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi user:Alansohn and user:Djflem - just FYI and of course no need to get involved if not your thing, but my new project is to clean up the *List of New Jersey music venues by capacity if you have any thoughts. Am trying to get hang of it as it does not sort properly by capacity which is annoying. I also plan to add a lot of missing smaller live music venues. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * here are my thoughts on what I plan to do, if curious:
 * -- figure out how to get it to sort by capacity in size order
 * -- add in the individual theaters by capacity and name at the various PACs and venues, since many have a big theater and some small ones
 * -- once i get it refreshed, create, separately, "template" akin to the template for Music Venues In Illinois where at a glance you can see the biggest to smallest notable venues in the state. Categories for that template, I'm thinking are "Outdoor," "Indoor arenas and similar" (6500+ capacity)," "Theaters and clubs (1000-6499 capacity)," "Theaters and clubs (500 to 999)," "Theaters and clubs (under 500), "Festivals," and "Historic."
 * --One of the challenges i think is deciding what "counts" as an NJ "music venue" as opposed to just a college sports venue, playhouse or convention center. I think for the template to be useful it needs to be places that have handled professional music touring acts however small. Otherwise it is just a list of large buildings for events. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 14:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , things look to be shaping up. Start with the main venues and work your way down. There are college and high school auditoriums that have been used as venues and the inclusion criteria should reflect that. Some, like the RWJBarnabas Health Arena might well clear the hurdle, even though it's not primarily a music venue, but it has been used b notable acts performing in the state. Alansohn (talk) 14:18, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Need to get back to it Bhdshoes2 (talk) 23:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Sorry! I thought "Laura Lee" was an outdated stage name! Bhdshoes2 (talk) 14:21, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * No worries. Most of the sources refer to her only as "Laura Lee" and not as "Laura Lee Ochoa" - she added that surname recently, and it's reflected inside the article. --Λeternus (talk) 19:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks! Bhdshoes2 (talk) 16:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thanks again! Great idea - i think it turned out good Bhdshoes2 (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. I posted it to the noticeboard! Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ps i jsut tried to tag you in a question below - not sure if i did it right Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * user:NinjaRobotPirate and user:AlanSohn am I allowed to ask what user:TruthGuardians means by this post about "incidents" here on my talk page? There is no link here.  I understand Child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson is a polarizing topic, but I always always always take disputes to the talk page, i have been editing in good faith for years, and i provide references and neutral POV. Any info on what this is all about would be most welcome.  I cant help but think it is a bad faith attempt to prevent neutral editing. User:TruthGuardians you are welcome to weigh in but you keep reverting edits on a matter that is literally going to trial in Feb 2024... Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ps fixed typo - "accusations" not "allegations" Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Bhdshoes2. The discussion is at WP:ANI. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Cant help but feel dogpiled on this "ANI" by 3 beyond-passionate fans who are rather "focused editors". Looks to me like experienced editors like, , ,   may possibly have expressed concerns before about these passionate Jackson fans "defending Michael" by scrubbing pages or felt, in disputes of yesteryear, "anything related to MJ is absolutely trainwrecked with a barrage of SPAs, most of who are not aware of policy and the ones aware engage in endless wikilawyering." --:    in my opinion, if an editor wants to edit a MJ alleged abuse page, and their edits are well supported by fact and reliable opinion, other editors should not try to silence and spook me and others away with immediate resort to "tribunals" Bhdshoes2 (talk) 14:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure why I was pinged, I am assuming because I was the person who proposed the Michael Jackson community sanction - but to summarize, the entire reasoning behind the sanction is primarily is that there is sockpuppetry, meatpuppetry and canvassing that plagues the topic area as a whole, and I believe it still holds true today (as we are also observing here). Until the fact of the matter changes, I do not see a way to continue productive editing in this topic area. No one is trying to spook or silence you, it's just that the policy regime of community sanctions is strict and all editors in this area are therefore subject to a higher than normal level of scrutiny. -- qedk ( t  愛  c ) 22:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed that is why i pinged you as I was encouraged to see your old quote aout the barrage of SPAs editing the page in bad faith. I was hoping you'd swoop in and save the day but this topic is so contentious it doesn't seem possible. Two questions:
 * who is now barred from editing MJ pages? TruthGuardians, JimBailey, and Mr Boar1 who appear to aggressively enforce an innocence stance in terms of edit warring, or me alone?
 * Am I barred from talk pages or just actual live Jackson pages?
 * Not arguing with your edict, just wondering lay of land. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 23:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

=Who's bad? Not me, I humbly submit=


 * Me tagging AlanSohn in good faith on the talk page of the lawsuit page I newly created that got deleted since I tend to ask him questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Safechuck_v._MJJ_Productions&diff=prev&oldid=1189083320


 * TG alarmed by my wiki edits and my Sohn tag and various Reddit drama that has nothing to do with me talks to NinjaRobotPirate about sanctions.  First time that's happens in however long I've been editing as far as I know.. NinjaRobotPirate says "but if it happens again, you could raise the issue at WP:ANI": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NinjaRobotPirate#General_sanctions,_suspected_canvassing,_and_suspicious_edits


 * Ninja warns me on my page - I say sorry I didn't know and tell him I will raise on the "neutral board": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bhdshoes2#Canvassing


 * TG raises on "WP:ANI" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bhdshoes2#Notice


 * TG requests page protection: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&oldid=1189717673#Child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson It is declined. I write "Jeez louise. This is what I get for trying to clean up Wikipedia! If anyone cares, I really dont think any of this was called for." https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&oldid=1189807047


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#I_dont_think_this_page_I_wrote,_Safechuck_v._MJJ_Productions,_should_have_been_deleted._It_involves_Michael_Jackson


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson#Why_is_the_lead_and_article_so_Chandler_heavy?: I write "TruthGuardians and all, wanted to let you know that later today I think i probably will open one of those "neutral POv" discussions for this 8 vs 4 topic - I will tag you when I do. It just feels like we are going in circles.... Bhdshoes2 (talk) 18:56, 16 December 2023"


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Concerned_that_Child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson_lacks_neutrality_as_it_omits_a_number_of_sourced_accusers

Further allegations
“The Fans of Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson and James Safechuck: Forensic Fandom and the Staging of a Media Tribunal By PD Keidl - American Behavioral Scientist 2022 - journals.sagepub.com (media studies essay arguing that Michael Jackson fans "use nonfiction media to stage a public trial and prove Jackson’s innocence and Robson and Safechuck’s guilt" and analysing "fan reactions to the sexual abuse allegations brought forward against Michael Jackson in Leaving Neverland" through rebuttal documentaries).

Blistein J. (2019, July 5). Michael Jackson fan clubs in France sue “Leaving Neverland” accusers for defamation. Rolling Stone. Retrieved from https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-jackson-fan-club-france-sue-leaving-neverland-accusers-855796/

Coscarelli J. (2019, March 4). Michael Jackson fans are tenacious: “Leaving Neverland” has them poised for battle. The New York Times. Retrieved from https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/arts/music/michael-jackson-leaving-neverland-fans.html

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 * Thanks - i beefed it up with more citations focused on him alone: Draft:Joe Sanders (double bassist) Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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