User talk:Bonadea/Archive 16

Reverted References
Hi Bonadea,

I am a new editor on Wikipedia and totally respect your experience and Wikipedian's seriousness about building up this platform into a better one. I am too in for the meaningful contributions only and not stand in "Vandals" line at any point of time. You previously reverted few links that I edited on pages Black Friday and Coupon. Though I have been reading lots of manuals and even before that, I couldn't understand the criteria on the basis of which you reverted those links. I think it will make me more careful about future edits and selection of authentic content only. What you actually call "low-content". Isn't it about anywhere you find relevant information? User:Lisa012 (talk) 10:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
User:Excelsior Educational & Development This page was created to make awareness in people. Everything in this page is written according to the rules if Wikipedia. If you find anything promotional please highlight that so that we can change it.

Selecting it for deletion is not an appropriate thing to do. Excelsior Educational &#38; Development (talk) 07:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Problem gambling -> Spam
Thank's, i´ve changed the referenced info for a good referenced site--Euroescritor (talk) 18:03, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Pozzitive DHM/ "Strap In - It's Clever Peter"
Thank you for your message; my mistake, yes! I first logged in as myself, the DHM one, and then only afterwards realized that there was an existing company login which my old assistant had set up, the Pozzitive one (which is indeed my production company). So from now on, everything I do will be as the Pozzitive one. Sorry about that!

david Pozzitive (talk) 13:56, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Gambling category & Problem gambling
Hi Bona, I would like to comment about the relationship between Gambling and Problem gambling, you've edited back my edition with this comment "rm good-faith edit: gambling is not per definition problem gambling, so it is not an appropriate category) ". I think there's a strong relationship, it's been talked earlier about on board, but it was not conclusive. I believe we should bring the subject back, because I think there's an substantial relationship.--Euroescritor (talk) 20:14, 16 November 2014 (UTC)oo

Userboxen
Please assume good faith on my part and my desire to improve the encyclopedia. I am actually relieved that you at least considered my message to you to be a joke - though it was not. I would have been quite distressed if you had been insulted or offended and I am glad weren't affected in those ways. Also, your jovial attitude, expressed in a light-hearted manner should result in our continued discussions.

WP:Userboxes describes the term typically used, by consensus, in place of the word 'Userboxen' Of course, and without a doubt, the term userboxen can be used on your own talk page.

And though my message to you has been deleted (why?) at least it was visible for a couple of hours.


 * Best Regards,
 *  Bfpage &#124;leave a message 09:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


 * What does my use of an unorthodox plural form, as a joke on my user page, have to do with anything? Is that the reason you told me my English is not good enough for Wikipedia? (Actually, don't answer that.) For the record, it is not quite correct to say that regular plural forms are used by consensus (but that is a side issue.) Concerning the message of yours that I removed, if it was not a joke, I am afraid it can only be interpreted as a wholly uncalled-for slur and insult. However, I am not offended, since you don't actually know me, and your opinion is based on a small sample of my activities. It is an unpleasant thing to know that I am being seen as unhelpful and incompetent, but I don't think that is a majority opinion, since I haven't heard it from anybody else here. You are certainly entitled to that opinion, but hopefully my presence won't present a problem for you in the future. After all, we have been active Wikipedians for years without crossing paths. I am sure we won't have any problems being civil to each other if we should find ourselves editing the same articles. --bonadea contributions talk 21:48, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Asking Jesus into heart article--removal of my edit
Dear Bondaea,

I am glad that you want the wikipedia content to be accurate; that is good. I am new to editing wikipedia, and I don't know if this is the way to respond to your edit on the asking Christ into one's heart article, which deleted what I believe was a significant improvement. Since I have studied the subject in the article on asking Christ into one's heart to a significant extent, and have interacted with other scholars on it, and taught on it in seminary classes in advanced Greek exegesis courses and undergraduate courses in Koine Greek, I did post material related to it that I also placed on my website. However, I did not write the doctoral dissertation that relates to the topic that is found there, nor did I write the article by Ovid Need I also linked to. Nor have I ever met the author of either the dissertation I referenced nor the author of the other article in my life, and they actually both possess theological positions with which I differ in significant ways. I am not sure why the Wikipedia article is improved by removing all references to a doctoral dissertation on the subject--it rather appears to me to be significantly weakened. If you believe it is good to remove the one article that I authored on the subject, simply because I authored it, that is fine, I suppose, although it represents what is close to a consensus in evangelical scholarship, but I don't see why the other material should be removed. I am fully aware that search engines ignore external links on Wikipedia pages. I appreciate your desire to preserve and increase the quality of Wikipedia articles by preventing them from degenerating into irrelevant advertising of external material or extraneous content; however, I do not think that my edits fit into that category. Perhaps it would be well to reconsider the wholesale deletions that were put in place here and reinstate deleted material. In relation to my own background, I teach seminary and undergraduate courses, write books, have an M. A., M. Div, and Th. M, and am just about done with my Ph. D. dissertation. I trust that I am qualified to edit the article. Thanks again, KJB1611 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KJBIBLE1611 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

GoDaddy change
What Link or reference did you want changed? All the links are appropriate and work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsmall56 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 6 December
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Recent Edit of E-commerce in India article
Hi,

I edited the article here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-commerce_in_India with a few citations having good content. While comparing to different articles like http://ptlb.in/ecommerce/?p=23 added as a citation in the article I was wondering, why was my link removed.

You can check the quality of article here http://www.coupondaddy.in/e-commerce-trends-exciting-markets-across-world/ and please let me know what the reason was.

Hoping to hear back soon.

Thanks,

Dead link question???
Hello. I went and fixed a dead link. The link (that was then dead) was reference about the requirements of a real estate salesperson license. I linked to a page that gave the exact requirements required for such a license. Seen here... Real Estate Salesperson License Requirements. But Bonadea removed my link and put back the dead link. Why? And if so, then how am I supposed to fix a dead link if providing the exact thing the original link had when it was good does not suffice??? Thank you for your time.

my name is Ruth Emmanuel popularly known as Rutex in Nigeria,am a female musician and i've been representing iamrutex online on twitter and instagram and i will want to continue using it on wikipedia too, so mr or mrs Bonadea i need you to understand and allow me use my identity as iamrutex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.67.155 (talk) 15:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

pleas be informed that i am one of the only two contributors of the Pop Fiction and Sizzle Books Wikipedia Article.
i am not tampering or vandalizing any of the materials of the Pop Fiction and Sizzle Books cause i am one of the authors.

Attwood
I've reported the user as an attack name. Your AIV report will probably come through first. I asked for revdel but they did not hide enough of the page history. I suggest that once the user is indeffed (I'm assuming that username issue will be sufficient for an indef) one of us ask for a revdel on the rest of the page since that first line is there for most of the history. Meters (talk) 20:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And I see he was indeffed for vandalism while I was writing the above. Meters (talk) 20:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

The aim I want to achieve by posting YouTube birth videos on Wikipedia pages
Hello Bonadea!

My name is abrahamvermeulen26 and I am a new poster on Wikipedia from the Netherlands. First of all, I would like to thank you for removing some of my birth videos from the Childbirth Wikipedia Page. I also thank you thus for guiding me into the new (at least for me:))Wikipedia world. The only thing I wanted to let you know is that the videos about the special home births and births in natural environments I posted are ways to merely INFORM readers about births. All the videos that I have posted are meant to inform people of the fact that birth can also take place at home or in a natural environment, not only in a hospital. They have nothing to do with my own opinion about better birthgiving at all. I just want to add some examples in video form, just to make sure that people really understand what childbirth is about.

I have already posted my videos on the Dutch Wikipedia page about pregnancy. (Nederlands: zwangerschap), but I would be a lot more happier if I could post the 11 videos on the English Wikipedia Page on Childbirth, since many more readers all over the world will have the opportunity to view my videos. (They merely serve as examples, nothing more)

Could you please give me the permission to post at least one video on the English Wikipedia Page about Childbirth or give some arguments why you wouldn't?

I am looking forward to hearing from you!

abrahamvermeulen26

Abrahamvermeulen26 (talk) 16:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much!
Hello Bonadea!

thank you so much for your two messages! They really help me to understand Wikipedia better than long lists and guidelines do. I really feel like you do your best to guide me through this new digital world and I appreciate that so much!

The first thing I am going to do from now on, is subscribe and start a discussion on the Talk page about both Pregnancy and Childbirth which is really the best option to do. I will also read the pages about the guidelines of Wikipedia and how to use it. I won't bother you any more by posting YouTube birthgiving videos that you have to remove, but I hope that you will stay available for questions I have about Wikipedia and the use of it and how to get to posting and new information etcetera.

Again....thank you! I so much appreciate you.

Jag önsker er en underbar 2015!

Regards,

Abrahamvermeulen26 Abrahamvermeulen26 (talk) 07:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Uploading photos on Wikipedia
Hello Bonadea (again)!

having problems with uploading photos on a Wikipedia page I would like to contact you. My goal was to post a picture portraying a pregnant woman with her husband on the Wikipedia page about Childbirth. I have already read all the steps you should take before uploading pictures, but at the end Wikipedia isn't willing to grant me the permission to finally upload the picture and put it on the page. How could this possibly happen? This is the website from which I have picked this picture (in case it might come in use for you): http://www.123rf.com/photo_10751418_naked-pregnant-woman-with-her-husband.html

Could you give me an advice how to tackle this problem? What do you think the problem might probably be?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Abrahamvermeulen26

ps. I will be off Wikipedia for a couple of weeks now, since I have to study. You will see me again on Wikipedia in February. I wish you a happy, healthy and successful 2015 and I'll see you in February!

Abrahamvermeulen26 (talk) 17:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

A kind request.
Hi Bonadea, I'm again. Forgive me if I disturb you. Please, could suggest me something to keep my article live? It's very sad for me I cannot see disappearing my article from Wikipedia. Is there any solution to keep it safe? Please.. Textlover (talk) 16:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Pop Fiction and Sizzle Books
may i request that the above article be semi-protected. i am not vandalizing it in any form. i just wanted the details, sections, and articles be supported with citations since the articles are used in researches. thanks in advance for helping me out with this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetchloe16 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much Bonadea. Now, I am learning how to deal with Wiki articles. I hope you can still guide me. THANK YOU SO MUCH. Sweetchloe16 (talk) 13:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Comparaison of project management software - edit
Hi Bonadea,

I'm new to wikipedia. I added a product to the Comparaison of project management software. You remove my modification, but I don't know why. Can you tell my why so I can do it the right way.

regards

MM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlinmartel (talk • contribs) 18:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

List of tomboys in fiction
If you're going to revert, please explain it, ask for third opinion and/or RFC on the talk page. The sources don't directly say "tomboy", but they do imply. I won't revert again, but I'll send it to the talk page for third opinion or RFC. Porchcorpter 22:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * When you add new information to a page, the burden is on you to provide reliable sources for the information. Like SummerPhD and Only, I explained my revert in the edit summary and on your user talk page. (Actually Summer explained it best, so there was no need for me to insult your intelligence and understanding by reiterating her points.) Discussing it on the article talk page is your best option. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 10:34, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Lovely. Personally, I prefer to assume good faith, but I understand and accept that not everybody agrees with me on that. --bonadea contributions talk 11:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Jaerock Lee and related articles
In reference to a remark you made at the Jaerock Lee talk page (specifically that "there are many editors who work only on articles connected to Lee and his work"): I'm not sure how familiar you are with the history of the article, but a little digging reveals that Jaerock Lee's protection status is due to "persistent sock puppetry" going back several years and that there have been numerous sockpuppet investigations related to the article (located here, here and here). It seems eminently possible, given the number of accounts working in concert at articles related to Jaerock Lee, that the sockpuppetry problem has risen again. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this. Regards, VeryCrocker (talk) 07:23, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I guess I reference this: User talk:70.168.9.36

First, thank you for the notice of the change. The citation was placed on the corresponding page because the wickipedia page keeps populating for the same branded search term as our companies blog "Sidewalk Talk", which is a Service Mark company asset (think trade mark for a service company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_mark). Our intent is to draw a distinct differential between the two assets and entities. It is our wish that the link be restated.

70.168.9.36 (talk) 19:26, 15 January 2015 (UTC)Sincerely, Chris Sheehy, Founder70.168.9.36 (talk) 19:26, 15 January 2015 (UTC) You are welcome to send a message to our general inbox, it will find me: sidewalkbranding.co@gmail.com. I will reply from my personal account.

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Vandalism of Talimeran Ao page
Dear Bonadea, Pardon my clumsy attempt to edit Talimeran Ao page as I am not sure about the procedure. As late Talimeran's son I wanted to correct his name spelling and also put a passport photograph instead of the painting depicted.If you are the Authority to permit this, please allow it and give instructions on how to go about this. Yours sincerely, Indy2011 Indy2011 (talk) 06:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi Bonadea. Been a while. Unless I'm mistaken you look you should probably be an admin. Do you want me to ping a nominator for you? -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Pressure Washer
Bonadea, I am writing concerning your removal of my reference on under "Uses" on the "Pressure Washer" page. You removed my link to a site containing extensive information on the subject that I edited (Low Pressure Washing) and instead, you or someone else inserted links about "Transmissions" which has NOTHING to do with the subject that I edited. This was just the beginning of me adding a TON of content on subjects/objects that are NOT currently covered by wikipedia and I want to continue doing so. But when my reference is replaced with something that's basically "Black Hat SEO" so that some Transmission company can have some backlinks, it aggravates me quite a bit. So please let me know EXACTLY what references you would like, because transmissions have NOTHING to do with the subject that I updated online the site that I originally added. I can be contacted directly at jared.c.green@gmail.com Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you. -Jared — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jared.c.greene (talk • contribs) 14:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Help required for - FabFurnish.com as the recent edit got reverted
Hi Bonadea

Thanks for stopping by and providing your inputs for the recent edits on the FabFurnish.com article. I am trying to be familiar with the neutrality for writing in wikipedia, and based on that I edited the above mentioned page. I added few points under the respective headings like 1 History 2 Business Model 3 Mergers & Acquisitions 4 Milestones & Achievements 5 Marketing & Initiatives 6 Awards & Recognition without the objective of advertising and/or promotion. These were basically the company's achievements. I would be really thankful, if you could help me in providing more inputs based on the above headings, in order to make the article more informative.

Thanks Kookdcts (talk) 05:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Lead generation through Wi-Fi
Magzape (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Hello Bonadea, thanks for your help. I'd love to contribute to Wikipedia and I'd love to have a feedback about any new version of the page.

The Wi-Fi section depends on my personal experience with lead generation through Wi-Fi, as a marketing professional. There are a few articles about the topic, because it's a brand new branch of marketing. There is an ongoing discussion about privacy (asking for personal data in exchange for WiFi).

The UK company PurpleWiFi just received $5million for social WiFi development: Cisco and Facebook are working on this together

My sources:

Would you think this is an interesting topic to discuss? Thank you for your help. Kind regards,

Valeria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magzape

reply from liguolong
Hi, in regard to your message, I would first say that I am not using multiple account. liguolong is the only account I am using. Also I am a semi-professional poker player, and I know most aspects of poker. I can guarantee you that what I put on wiki are all about important aspects of modern poker theory. I did put links to my own blog, but it is because I believe the explaination on my blog is the most clear one and I can guarantee you that if you ask any poker professional, they will be positive about my articles. So A lot good poker players are reluctant to disclose their strategies and they are making money playing online poker and simply can't bother to contribute. I have been researching, learning and playing poker for years and in combination with my mathematical skills (I am phd in math in cambridge university), I believe I can certainly make positive contributions to wikipedia. If you don't believe that my effort are making wikipedia better, please consult a poker professional and ask for his opinion.

Hi, thank you for your response. First, I will emphasis again I am only using one account and I only have one account. Secondly, let me be frank, I don't think you understand poker at all. If you tell me that what I have put on wikipedia is not correct or not important, I am happy to hear your reason, if you are right, you can delete it. However, I feel that reverting the changes without understanding the what it says would result in negative contribution to wikipedia. Every decent poker player knows things about e.g. GTO(game theoretical optimal), blockers etc and would acknowledge their importance and it is ashame that these issues can be found nowhere in wikipedia. The strategies written in wikipedia are very outdated. So, I would like to ask you not to revert my work if you don't understand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liguolong08 (talk • contribs) 09:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Looney Tunes Dash article deleted.
I received the message saying This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://androiddreamer.com/looney-tunes-dash/ however, androiddreamer is my own blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liguolong08 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your effort making Wikipedia worse
Ok, I will delete my wikipedia account and give up trying to contribute. I would like to thank you for letting me understand a quote by Mark Twain :“How often we recall with regret that Napoleon once shot at a magazine editor and missed him and killed a publisher. But we remember with charity that his intentions were good.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liguolong08 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that being asked to follow Wikipedia policy offends you. The only things I have asked you to do are to a) use one account only, b) not add links to your personal websites fillpocket and androiddreamer without first discussing the additions, and c) not violate Wikipedia's copyright policies. I'm afraid none of those points is my own invention so you are really just shooting the messenger here. But since all your edits so far have been promotional for your own websites I fear that you would never have found Wikipedia a very welcoming environment, no matter which editors you had any interactions with. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 08:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, it's ok
hi !! thanks for notifying me :D it's ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nogats07 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

review of an external link
Hi Bonadea, Well done on your hard work on editing the content and making Wikipedia the best place as free reference website.

I added http://www.urlrate.com to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name which I think it fits very well with what it is discussed there. Basically, I have been using this website which it covers almost all subjects added on the domain name page. That would be great if other people also could view and use this website. Or what title I should write an article about it?

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Regards, Pollyanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Londonex (talk • contribs) 15:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Media intelligence
Well done - I made edits to that article and received an edit conflict, only to see you made the exact same edits and added the same tags. :) Kuru   (talk)  22:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * -) Thank you! --bonadea contributions talk 09:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Y. Srihari‎
sir, how many days it wall take time to delate the article ," This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy'.my user id is jyoshna7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoshna7 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

thanking you for your reply sir ,i am miss jyoshna, i am a medical student finel year .....my id is jyoshna7, i am new to wikipedia , i want to create an article in wikipedia , like diseases like acaustic neruroma , myocardial infarction, i am requeting you give me suggestion how to start to write an article in wikipeida , and where can i ger faq about writing article.......thanking you sir  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoshna7 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

thanking you sir...jyoshna7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoshna7 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

good morning sir, i want to open an article in wikipedia , but i have small doubt sir , i am a medical student , will spend more time in my library , there are many medical books in my library , i can create a good article by read this books , but this books not available in internet, but wikipedia asks refrences in  internet, can i give the names of this books as reference ...what is the next step? please help me sir.....thanking you... jyoshna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoshna7 (talk • contribs) 07:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

respectsed sir, i llike your editing system, but i want to inform you that small error happend at editing of " dr y.srihari' article , in this article there are two references one is http://www.hypnotherapistregister.com/InternationalIndia.htm , in this at bottom of list there is dr srihari mbbs,bwrt,btht naem at town visakhapatnam , and in 2nd reference http://www.viteprecedenti.com/ipnologi.html#india , in hyderabad town listing is there , but in both the name published as dr sreehari instead of dr y,srihari , if possible please observe it sir,,,thanking you sir , sorry for trouble you sir......sekhar  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.63.189.213 (talk) 14:44, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * There was an edit note in Y. Srihari‎ which pointed out the fact that directory listings in a directory or register of doctors is not the same as a reference. Unfortunately, that note has been removed without any explanation. In any case, the links you mention do not support Srihari's notability, regardless of how his name is spelt. --bonadea contributions talk 14:59, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

respected sir, i jyoshna7, with your proper guidence i succed an article LIVING LONGER. i am very happy its not delated its your credit. i am very thankfull to your for your guidence and suggerssion, previously i tried 9 articles ,but all are delated, i am very happy and thankfull to you sir ,,,,,jyoshna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoshna7 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi again - as you have probably noticed, the article was in fact deleted (nothing to do with me - I haven't been logged on for a few hours and your article was gone when I looked for it.) It was evidently a copyright violation which is something Wikipedia takes quite seriously.  For your next article you might want to use the Articles for Creation process. Wishing you the best of luck. --bonadea contributions talk 20:12, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Melissa Rycroft
Requesting you to please have a look at Talk:Melissa Rycroft. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:18, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

FYI re: the edits at Talk:Vaporizer (inhalation device)
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Persistent disruption by Timothy Sheridan. Thank you. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks - I guess Timothy Sheridan is one of those people who won't go away since it is impossible to make him see reason... he's kind of tragic, really. And he is more than just kind of disruptive. --bonadea contributions talk 21:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Spam Link
Hi,

I just converted a bare URL reference to a proper reference at the article Sim box. Check the revision here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sim_box&oldid=650119432 which clearly shows that the link was already in the article as a bare URL way before I converted it to a proper reference. Next time I will be cautious to follow the links to see if Spam or not. The spam links had been originally added by User:Anna Alexandrovna Latushkina as seen here. Aha... (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

What is your problem?
Please tell me what you have contributed? As far as I can tell, your contributions amount to zero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prairiegrl (talk • contribs)


 * I'm not aware that I have a problem. As far as I can tell, my contributions amount to a little over 68,000 at the moment. --bonadea contributions talk 22:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Impeding the Progress of an Article
I seriously think you should be removed from Wikipedia. Clearly you have some anger issues and you are using your role as a quasi-administrator to impede the progress of articles. Let me add, I haven't a clue what you are referring to when you say promotional text. As I tried to tell you previously, I felt it was necessary to to reflect the authors thoughts, as best I could. It really is people like you that impede the progress of Wikipedia with anal adherence to "Policy". It amounts to censorship. If you want censorship go live in Russia or China.

As far as citations the most reliable citation is Facebook itself, and to cite Facebook would be a violation of Wikipedia policy, which is why I didn't link it. Since "Likes" is a number that changes from week to week, it would be pointless to cite an article that would be hopelessly out of date a week after it was published.


 * Thank you for starting a discussion about this. We can't cherry-pick which policies we choose to adhere to, and as soon as an addition to an article is questioned, the burden is on the editor who wants to add the information to show that it belongs in the article. Looking at the text you added, the first sentence is an almost verbatim copy of the source, with only a couple of words changed, which means that it is a copyright violation. That is something that is absolutely not allowed under any circumstances here. Secondly, the phrasing about the city being propelled into the limelight (I'm paraphrasing here, but that's what it amounted to) is promotional, not informational. In addition, it makes little sense to have that snippet of text in that section - there is no logical progression to the text, it is the kind of text that might be found at the start of a (promotional) text.


 * The most reliable citation is not Facebook itself - that would be a primary source, and simply looking at the number of likes and adding that to the article would constitute original research. What you need to provide is a reliable source that has published the information about the number of likes, a secondary source. Yes, that information may become outdated (so you would have to qualify it by adding the information of when it was published), but I'm afraid it is still absolutely necessary to have such a source. If no such published information exists, the information cannot remain in the article.


 * As for anger issues, I'm not sure what you mean - you posted personal attacks on this page completely out of the blue, which I admit did annoy me a little, but I'm certainly not angry (life's too short to harbour grudges against anonymous people on a random website). I also have no "quasi-administrative powers" at all. --bonadea contributions talk 17:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Someone suggests you have a problem and immediately you feel you are being personlly attacked. I suppose this feeling stems from your issues with anger, which you deny having. You might as well delete it all then, I know it will make you feel better, and help to relieve your anxieties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.199.152 (talk) 19:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Apart from the fact that this is unrelated to the article issues, it is also unrelated to me - I think you are addressing the wrong gal here :-) --bonadea contributions talk 20:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Bonadea
Do you work for Wikipedia? Please reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendy50 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Bendy. No, I do not. --bonadea contributions talk 20:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Spam Link
Can i know what was the problem with the link which i've added to the Web Development. It was actually related content about CMS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pshashank96 (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you for your message. The reference link you added did not, in fact, support the text "Most recently Web development has come to mean the creation of content management systems or CMS", since it led to a site promoting a particular CMS. Please see Wikipedia's external links policy, and in particular this list of the kinds of links that are considered inappropriate for Wikipedia articles. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 14:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

External Link for Google Penguin Page
Hello Bonadea, I'd like to discuss external link removing for google penalty recovery service I've added to the Google Penguin page. Why was it consider as inappropriate for Wiki? There's another Recovery service in External links already, but it's not removed. The mentioned service http://depenalize.me has unique selling proposition - it's a really non-risky service, with 100% money back guarantee. And this link may be really useful for the page visitors. I'll be appreciated for your answer. --Zergut.al (talk) 14:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid the kind of external link you suggest does not meet Wikipedia's external links policy - specifically, points 4 and 5 in this list. You are absolutely right about the other recovery service link - that should not have been added to the article, and it has now been removed. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 14:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, it's clear enough now :) Thank you for your contribution. --Zergut.al (talk) 14:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that
Seems Twinkle decided to notify you when I placed deletion tag on User talk:KeerthiEstates.in. Sorry about that. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * No worries - I know that Twinkle does that automatically. :-) --bonadea contributions talk 11:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
Thank you! This was very much appreciated, and cheered me up no end :-)  Thanks also for your quick and efficient handling of the case. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 21:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Allwalis windfarm
Hi, I notice you removed recent edits. Although I can understand your concern, it is important to make clear the harmful problems the site has caused to local residents. This is a fact, as were the external links I included. How can we put this into a form so that is it a neutral statement of fact and will be accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElBurroBlanco (talk • contribs) 09:38, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message! As you were writing it I was trying to incorporate the information in a more neutral fashion into the article (and also removing some excessive, bordering-on-promotional details about the wind farm). I completely agree that it is important to include the information about the problems, especially since there are several reliable sources.  It makes me rather sad to see that those sources are from 2010 and 2012, and apparently the problems still exist... Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 10:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Bonadea. I'm new to Wikipedia so making my way around its policies and restrictions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debbie M Wilson (talk • contribs) 09:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks again BonadeaDebbie M Wilson (talk) 09:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Solapur Name Change Help
Name of Solapur is derived form "Hindi" language Words which a very clear I do the edits but One user keep on changing it to "Marathi" Language I am not able to do the right edit Please advise how to make it possible to put the right info Atonway (talk) 10:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Timothy Sheridan
You know quite well how to determine if an IP address is him. Anyway, should I request a rangeblock for 72.94.224.0/19? I gathered 8 abusive IPs and lined them up in Wikimedia lab's tool. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for late reply - I don't think it would hurt, you could ask some admin who has encountered Sheridan before, for instance Barek. I'm not an admin so I'm not sure what the guidelines about rangeblocks say. Thanks for doing this - it is quite an annoying return vandal, this. --bonadea contributions talk 08:07, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ohp. It's been done already by Materialscientist. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 05:37, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

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Why
I help Wiki give people helpful information, why you edit it's??? I writed it's and posted in my site and in here! tell me why you edit my content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zezo1986 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It is spammy, and it is copyrighted. If you wrote the original text you could in theory donate the text to Wikipedia; instructions have been left on your talk page. But the text is inappropriate anyway since it is a user guide, and it is written in a tone that is inappropriate for an encyclopedia, and so it can't be used for those reasons, as well. The link vilolates Wikipedia's external links policy. --bonadea contributions talk 09:42, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

How to write or link something to wikipedia?
Hello I need your help, because I have written really good content about cosmetic surgery, I write about tips to recover, to have a better surgery among others topics, and I would like to publish some of this content in wikipedia. If you can please help.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claire Gray (talk • contribs) 21:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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Western Products Company Page
My company is Western Products (http://www.westernproducts.com/). This company's name is "Western." (http://www.westernplows.com/wp/company/). I want to claim this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WesternProducts (talk • contribs) 21:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

message to admin

 * I'm no administrator, but I've been around for a little while and so I'm fairly well aware of Wikipedia's external links policies. You have been informed of these policies several times (by three different editors) but just to refresh your memory: these are the types of links to be avoided. #11 specifies that blogs and personal fansites should not be added, and the website you have been diligently adding to many different Wikipedia pages specifies very clearly that it is an unofficial blog. In addition, #13 says that "the link should be directly related to the subject of the article", and a blog post with a drinks recipe is not directly related to an article about a sporting competition. The blog post itself adds nothing at all to what is already on the page Mint julep. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 16:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Look at this page and stop sabotaging the bitcoin community, the user need to know all the information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers

This time will be no links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ma5ter-Edi7or (talk • contribs) 16:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Hello Bonadea, I am updating the english version of the Diasorin Company profile on Wiki but the contents I have submitted have been rejcted as promotional. The company profile paragraph I have written was the exact translation of the italian approved version. So far I wasn't able to understand where the problem was. Contents are not intended to be promotional at all, they try to expalin the company core business and profile. I will also integrate the profile with other information on revenues, structure, management and, in general,with information on the composition and activities of the Diasorin Group.

Deleted as Promotion
Hi Bonadea,

I got message that your change as been reverted. Though it was not promotional and the information was existing since 2013. Please recheck it once. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syconet (talk • contribs) 12:30, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bonadea, Just received your message regarding content deletion of topic matka_gambling. I have retrieved that precautions from that cited source and found very useful for people who are new in matka gambling.So many fraudsters are online these days.And I want to prevent the fraud and save victims before any incidence take its place.I kindly request you to please revert changes if possible. Waiting for your reply. Your Bro Kedar


 * Hi Kedar, thanks for your message. I'm afraid the website sinply doesn't meet Wikipedia's rules for external links. Also note that Wikipedia is not a consumer guide, and warnings such as the one you posted to the article don't meet the important policy concerning neutral point of view. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 07:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Birth Date of Shweta Tiwari
Please, comment, guide and disscus on the Shweta Tiwari talk page. link : Talk:Shweta Tiwari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prymshbmg (talk • contribs) 09:47, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Satpal Maharaj
Hello Bonadea, this is the matter regarding Satpal Maharaj article there are many aspects of the life history of Satpal maharaj they need to be added to that article with out which the true personality of Satpal Maharaj will not come out infront of the people. i hope the facts of the life of a person needs to be mentioned in the biography of the living people so i expect you to get me to edit some facts on the events of Shri Satpal Maharaj. He is Spiritual Master along with being politician I just want to bring the spiritual aspects of Satpal maharaj so let me allow to edit the article to bring about the spiritual aspects of Satpal Maharaj — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anilkrishna13 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Replying on your talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 13:12, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Deleted image from TX Country article
Hi Bonadea, why was my image deleted in the first place? It as a photo of my work, taken by me, and appeared on the show. If you look at the article, my name, David Smith appears in the list of notable segment. How do i get the image back? Thanks for youe help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithvane (talk • contribs) 15:22, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Bonadea. I am new here and it is hard figuring out this system. What do i need to do? Thanks for your help!--Smithvane (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Technical support scam article
Hello Bonadea,

Thanks for sharing with us the updates.

However, I would like you to understand that I have no intentions of defaming anyone. The portions that I edited in the article in question have links to support the fact. I have hyperlinked the reference links which you can check to verify. I am rolling over the edits that you’ve done to the article, please check the reference link that I am posting on the same.

Look for a positive reply from your end.

Warm regards, Jennispat (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding this piece gives a confusing outlook about the company
I have gone through the article ‘'The downward (dog) spiral: iYogi exposed'. The article was published by Infoworld in 2012 and talks about the different upsells and services given by iYogi. However, any mention of any unethical software installation is not mentioned. Adding this piece gives a confusing outlook about the company and so wish to edit this piece. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennispat (talk • contribs) 08:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There is absolutely nothing confusing about the claim. What is your connection to iYogi? You have previously modified the sourced criticism against the company to try to discredit the source, and now you have again changed the same, sourced text, removing the reliable source and inastead adding non-reliable sources in the form of consumer review sites - such sites can very easily be manipulated which is why Wikipedia do not accept them as sources. Your claim that this source does not support the information that the company has been reported to "use scare tactics and install undesirable software" is incorrect, but since it took less than five seconds to find a corroborating source (it is in fact linked in the first sentence of the existing source) we might as well add that source, too. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 09:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for sending this information to me. Please guide me on whether you think mentioning only one brand name in this article is a neutral approach to the topic of Tech Support Scams. I found it suspicious that this article mentions only one brand name. I felt that, for the sake of neutrality, either this should be a generic article without making allegations towards any brand, or again for the sake of neutrality other brands which have such articles written about them should also be mentioned, or again for the sake of neutrality, this page should give more information on the single brand that the original author of the article has mentioned so that people can make their own decisions. I picked the last option because these links were mentioned on Wiki about iYogi. I wish to edit this line because the article mentioned in [17][18] doesn’t mention anything about installation of undesirable software and so is an absolute inaccuracy.

For example India-based iYogi was reported by InfoWorld to use scare tactics and install undesirable software. Thank you once again for the details and rules. I will pay great care and attention to my future edits and enhancements on Wiki.Jennispat (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * You claim, yet again, that the text "For example India-based iYogi was reported by InfoWorld to use scare tactics and install undesirable software" is not supported by the sources. This is incorrect, as BOTH sources support BOTH these assertions. "Brian Krebs, a former Washington Post writer who now operates his own blog, Krebs on Security, tested iYogi himself and discovered that the company was indeed using scare tactics to coerce users into signing up. [...] then immediately went into my control panel and deleted what [iYogi] put on my computer [...]"  and "[...] iYogi was using support calls to aggressively sell annual subscriptions [...] proceeded to install an iYogi "tune up" tool called PCDiagnostics".  It took less than 30 seconds to find this information in the sources provided. And yes, it is absolutely appropriate to include sourced information in Wikipedia articles even if it happens to be negative for a certain company. --bonadea contributions talk 16:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Bonadea.

Thanks for your kindly information.

I'm Ali.

It's Ok, I accept it. I feel so sorry if I did mistake on Wikipedia. I'm an entrepreneur, but I'm a newbie as blogger. I'm focus on wrting about entrepreneurship, business and investment.

I think I need some backlinks from great site like Wiki, that's why I place link to my site.

Can you help me to get backlink from Wiki?

Thankyou.

Regards,

Ali

--Aliyudin21 (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hello Bonadea, I wanted to let you know that I reverted back your edits on the page Australian property bubble, because they seemed to be inappropriate. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiewriterguy (talk • contribs) 13:43, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Serious problem
Hi Bonadea,

I am not sure if you are aware but the property bubble is a serious problem and allowing foreigners to buy Australian property and worse Australian banks lending to them to buy it is just crazy. People ought to know about it!

Thanks for your input but it is not needed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiewriterguy (talk • contribs) 13:47, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how this comment addresses the fact that you have been adding an inappropriate external link, leading to an individual company that offers loans to non-Australians, to Australian property bubble. --bonadea contributions talk 13:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again but as I said your input is not needed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiewriterguy (talk • contribs) 13:52, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Who made you king? You must be one of those who are the problem. You should be banned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiewriterguy (talk • contribs) 13:54, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - are you sure you're not thinking of a couple of other chaps? Anyway, as long as you don't add the spam link again, everything should be fine. Take care, --bonadea contributions talk 13:56, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

What exactly is your problem?
Really what is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiewriterguy (talk • contribs) 14:01, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

SPI
Hey, giving you a head's up- I think that there's likely some sockpuppetry involved with the article for Mahabharata (Bengali film), given that this was created at different names with different accounts. It's not the strongest case but it's enough to where it's definitely suspicious. I've opened it up here if you want to weigh in, as you've had more interaction with them. I have a feeling that if this is sockpuppetry, then it's likely that there are far more names than what I've listed. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:42, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Royals
Wedding of Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland, and Sofia Hellqvist.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:56, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Mafia Capitale
This shit bot does not understand that the site http://wikipedia.moesalih.com/Mafia_Capitale copied the article from Wikipedia !!! Manox81 (talk) 21:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Can you Please explain what policies I'm not adhering to? These changes are related to Yoga and can you say which line is unnecessary addition to Yoga page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1987sagarkaul (talk • contribs) 14:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

But Sir, How to make new additions reliable although I have added all references. Kindly suggest. 1987sagarkaul (talk) 14:17, 20 June 2015 (UTC)Sagar

Help needed urgently
Hi, today is International day of Yoga and many people from around the world will try to access Yoga wikipedia page. But we are not able to add more to this page. All previous edits seem to try and add genuine details about Yoga. I don't understand why they are removed and edit is disabled. It looks like that wikipedia's slogan that anybody can write and add content is broken by some dictator fellows. Unless one is anti-yoga, the previous edits didn't deserve the removal. Feels like for these monopoly a WikiLeaks page should be opened for wikipedia. Try researching the topic Yoga and check whether the information added is genuine or not. Sometimes in the name of free service to wikipedia many enthusiasts deny vital information to reach to the masses. Its yoga day and millions will turn to wikipedia for getting to know abou it, if new edits are not added in time they will loose there significance all together.. Missing Aron swartz like fellows.... Freedom is in danger.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Himalayan river (talk • contribs) 19:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

augmented reality game list
Hi Bonadea,

for AR game list you just redo, please review the definition of "AR"; for example, Batman/dead space just providing a "in-game" AR which is NO connected to real world; but what i edit like Drakerz is a typical AR game which combines real world and virtual in display. the list now here may gives wrong direction for readers and please reconsider it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yunyao (talk • contribs) 00:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm only going on what the sources say about the Batman game, but if it is misleading by all means remove it from the list. Please don't add any games that don't have a Wikipedia page, though, unless you have a third-party source that discusses the game and its use of AR. The list has been cleaned up recently to remove all non-notable software without sources - and sources cannot be the game's own website, it has to be an independent source. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 16:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * added: I removed Batman - as you say it doesn't appear to have actual augmented reality. --bonadea contributions talk 16:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Hasselhoff
Thank you for your message on my page If i remove the impartial language will the bio be approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabbyXdance4life (talk • contribs) 21:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks you for your new message! I have since removed the impartial/slanted language and reposted the updated abstract. Your help is much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabbyXdance4life (talk • contribs) 13:58, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The new version looks really good to me. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 14:05, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Pakistan Army
I removed the recent additions because they are sourced from biased pov material and added without any consensus. Zadon19 (talk) 13:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see where it says that the sources are biased or POV, but I'm not going to get into an edit war over this. --bonadea contributions talk 13:51, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * They are sourced from India and thus pov pretty simple. Zadon19 (talk) 13:52, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not how it works here, all sources are judged on their merits, and you can't disregard sources just because you don't like them. I have issued a "Discretionary Sanctions Notice" to you, on your talk page, BTW, read it carefully before continuing to edit. Thomas.W talk 13:56, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * As Thomas says, you certainly cannot draw the conclusion that something is biased because of where it originated. (By your reasoning, everything from Pakistan would be equally biased and inappropriate...) --bonadea contributions talk 15:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Media page vandalism
I noticed you sending warnings to the various IP addresses that keep posting in stuff at Media and then removing it a minute or so later. Do you know why this keeps happening? Is it to spam a search engine or something? I was wondering whether the page should be protected? Btljs (talk) 18:33, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I wish I knew. I warn them more as a matter of form than anything else, and to make it easier for admins to spot and block them... but I honestly have no idea what it's about. :-/ --bonadea contributions talk 22:02, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Skyhorse Publishing
Hello Bonadea, I am an employee for Skyhorse Publishing who works in their sales and marketing department. I have been asked to update our company's Wikipedia page however I noticed that an edit that I had made eariler this morning has been reverted back by you; the reversion noted that the edit I made was not valid. We want to update our company page with the most up to date content and have it more in line with other publishers pages. Can you please let me know your reason for reverting our comapny's changes? Thanks in advance for your attention and help in this matter. Best regards, SkyhorseSales1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkyhorseSales1 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Skyhorse Publishing
Bonadea, thank you for your help. I am new to using and understanding Wikipedia update policies, your comments have been very helpful. I do feel that the last paragraph of the Skyhorse Publishing page still should be removed. The reasoning being twofold:

1. Book publishers, in general, do not have any control over who sells their books. Skyhorse Publishing, a book publisher, cannot control where Skyhorse books are sold, just as a cable channel cannot control who pays for the tier that includes their channel, etc. 2. I encourage you to review other book publishers pages such as Random House and Simon & Schuster. No other book publisher page includes commentary about who sells their books, which is not something a book publisher can control.

Please let me know if you still have any questions or concerns about why the paragraph should be removed from the Skyhorse page. I'm happy to continue the discussion further. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkyhorseSales1 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Benchmarking link inclusion
Hi, my request is with regards to the inclusion of link to the original source of the book written by mr. chris bogan. I think it is legitimate to add the link of the book as a reference to the page. rather than adding link to non-original source "see citation 2" let me know if this is wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.59.166 (talk) 08:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please don't add the link. The lavoisier.fr link is considerably better from Wikipedia's point of view, but to be honest there is no need for a link at all, since the reference is to the printed book and not to any website. The best-in-class link is in violation of Wikipedia's external links policy, and constitutes spam. Several editors have removed this link and other links to best-in-class.com from all over Wikipedia, so there is definitely no consensus in favour of adding it. As a matter of fact it's very uncertain whether the book is a reliable source at all - quite possibly it should be removed entirely as a source. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 09:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Content - Naukri.com
Could you please specify the reason for removing the content from Naukri wiki page

Hari Sadu Ad

(Content under this section)

Reference link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/Decades-Most-Memorable-Ads/articleshow/7297160.cms

Please verify the 3rd Ad on the above link that prove "Naukri.com is one of the best ads remembered on Indian Television"


 * As I specified in the edit summary, the content was 1) promotional ("one of the memorable ads" - also ungrammatical English, but that's fixable), 2) incomprehensible unless you already know about the advert, and 3) unsourced. Yes, there is a brief mention of the advert in the timesofindia ref, but it says nothing about it being one of the best ads, only that one individual columnist chose to include it in a list of "a few memorable ads from the decade".


 * In any case, the advert is mentioned in the article in a non-promotional manner, with a better reference (collected from a previous version of the article) and a little bit of context to explain what "Hari Sadu" means. --bonadea contributions talk 10:27, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
Rahmanuddin Shaik (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

MSV
Detailed references added. Hope I get appreciation.Jancater (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

There is no copyright violation. Seems without any valid reason you are reverting.Jancater (talk) 14:30, 19 July 2015 (UTC) 1) Below link shows clearly - no further citation needed for the sentence - M. S. Viswanathan also scored music for many non-film albums and for political campaigns.cn|date=July 2015 as in my version - .ref name="Hindu article in MSV" is mentioned!! 2) What makes you remove the line? - Cho Ramaswamy made a political satire film named Muhammad bin Tughlaq and Vishwanathan sang the song Allah Allah Nee Illadha Idame Illai. 3) Whats the issue with the line - He had played the child's character named Kovalan in the film Kannagi produced by Jupiter Pictures - when reference is already present? 4) Music directors like V. Kumar, Sankar Ganesh, Ilaiyaraaja, Gangai Amaran, Deva, Bharathwaj, A. R. Rahman, Yuvan Shankar Raja and others considered Vishwanathan as their inspiration.http://www.sify.com/movies/veteran-music-composer-ms-viswanathan-is-no-more-news-tamil-phok7Feachaac.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M._S._Viswanathan&type=revision&diff=672135088&oldid=672134891

Just because in earlier versions there were copyright issues does not mean, present version , despite being free of any copyright violations, gets reverted! Also while the previous versions - straight lines were lifted from sites - as facts were being removed. I had promotly informed you, that you are free to re-write sentences, after I had put up all the facts with references in the main article page. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M._S._Viswanathan&type=revision&diff=672135088&oldid=672134891 - read it and observe by yourself that there is no copyright violation.Jancater (talk) 14:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please keep the discussion to one place. Nobody can keep up with a discussion that's posted in (I think) four different places at this point... --bonadea contributions talk 15:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

New article submission about IssueTrak software
Hello Bonadea, I am working on an article about IssueTrak help desk software and while searching for notable references I discovered there was an article in draft mode about the same subject by Buffalo747. You left a message for Buffalo747 stating the article was due for deletion because no new edits had been made in over 6 months. I also noticed that you mentioned that the IssueTrak with the capital T was prevented from re-creation. I have two questions.
 * 1) Will Buffalo747's article be deleted? (I don't want to duplicate content)
 * 2) Would you recommend I change my article to using a lowercase t?

Note: I'm writing about IssueTrak because it is one of the oldest and most refined software products in use for customer service support (1992) and it is used, some would say admired, by many very prominent companies (UPS, Pepsi, and even Microsoft) so it is very noteworthy. One problem is, it's never really been written about. Most news articles and trade journals have written about the developer IssueTrak which bears the same name as the software. I have found reliable sources including Microsoft and Inc. magazine that I've included in my article about the software.

Your time and feedback is greatly appreciated.

SoftwareNinja (talk) 20:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll answer on your talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 20:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

3RR
You seem to be the more mature of the two editors here, so I am leaving you this message to remind you that you get 3 reverts on any given page in a 24 hour window. You apparently have 4 on the page, however there are extenuating circumstances, so I am declining the block this time around. Do remember to seek help sooner in the future so as to avoid 3RR issues, ok? TomStar81 (Talk) 15:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I owe you an apology, I went back to doube check and it turns out you have only reverted 3 times, not 4. I offer no excuse for this mistake, and will work harder to double check my math in the future before making unjust accusations. Sorry for the error. Sincerely, TomStar81 (Talk) 15:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. Thanks. I was pretty certain that reverting copyvios doesn't violate 3RR, but I'll be more careful in future. --bonadea contributions talk 15:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * These days it seems to me that doing anything useful and/or helpful on this site violates some obscure policy or guideline, which is why I'm usually a little gun shy to help out in cases like this, but you did seem to need the assistance. Also, thanks for not taking my head off - more than one user has done that after I made a mistake and owned up to it. Its these little things that help editors get through their day, you know? :) TomStar81 (Talk) 15:27, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

85 About heartfulness
Hi Bonadea, I just updated the heartfulness page and removed the redirection as I noticed you had removed the content and redirected it to mindfulness page. The previous page and definitions were not that good, I agree there, it was bit messed up, but still showing some direction to real case. I now decided to write it completely in new kind of version, intuitively defining what is heartfulness, from my heart, this is what heartfulness is partly about. I have e.g. written 2 books and tens of blog postings with intuition only. If you want, you could check it out, if it is ok now, if some links needed there in the end or modification in the grammar, etc. As I am new with Wikipedia, the formatting seems bit difficult.

You can find some definitions of heartfulness here: (apparently I cannot send you youtubelinks here, sorry) What is heartfulness? (text): http://www.lovesol.fi/en/what-is-heartfulness/

Sometimes heartfulness is included in mindfulness, by some teachers, but mostly not. At least this is how it seems to me. Therefore I think it is relevant to maintain own page for heartfulness.

Some other sources maybe relevant to this heartfulness page(but I don't know how to add sources there...): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-davis-phd/heartfulness_b_3030633.html https://www.heartmath.org/ Scientific research on the matter. http://www.lovesol.fi/en/heartmathinstitute-the-hearts-intuitive-intelligence-a-path-to-personal-social-and-global-coherence/

I noticed in your profile you read LOTR books, I have not read them but seen the movies. In the movies it is a lot about heartfulness, whether to do as you feel in your heart, or follow your fears, your mind. In the movie Gandalf is worried about Frodo, Aragorn asks him, "What your heart says?" Gandalf: "Frodo is alive!..." That's about heartfulness, listening to our intuition. Some simple silencing and heartfulness exercises in our Youtube channel if you want to check it out.

Best regards, greetings from Finland, Petri Huitti Love Solutions - Heartfulness University (www.lovesol.fi)

PetriHuitti (talk) 09:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC)Hi Bonadea, I was fine with the previous page of heartfulness there was though it was not perfect. Mindfulness is not the same concept as heartfulness, mindfulness is currently perceived more as certain techniques created, launched and delivered by merely one actor in the field (originated from Jon Kabat-Zinn), very successfully though around the world. As I see it, heartfulness with ancient history back to 500-800BCE isn't and shouldn't be tied to one actor with copyrighted techniques and theories as mindfulness is perceived more in western countries, at least here in Finland. I understand removing some of the old content, if it was against of some copyright or some other Wikipedia rules. Or arranging it as it was not so well organized. Apologies as I wasn't more active here before the removal of the article, it is just difficult to contribute in that kind of topic where there can be many viewpoints, as there already was, and as I am not familiar with Wikipedia, how it works, how it is maintained. In the end, heart is pretty different from mind, when you study it, experience it. The difference could be perceived to be even more than with physical organs often attached to them, heart and brain. I gathered my understanding of heartfulness with several links to Wikipedia and other sources here: http://www.lovesol.fi/en/heartfulness-in-wikipedia-or-not-definition-of-heartfulness/ Maybe it helps some people who search information about heartfulness in internet, heartfulness is never mentioned in mindfulness page, nor is Sruti, seemingly the name of heartfulness(or some concept close to it) in sanskrit (Sruti is explained in Wikipedia). If you someday decide to gather the article of heartfulness back to Wikipedia, you are free to use information and sources gathered there. I agree with the exact name "heartfulness" not so much information available, but concept is explained by many over times, during thousands of years, in several cultures. As a conclusion, from my heart: "Heart is the center of the universe, in you, yourself, when you get it. Mind is a player in that universe, in that universal game of us, shaded by delusions, delusions of superiority over all, by mind. But when this delusion opens, when we open to our heart, we realize that yes we are, we are the origin of the universe, since our hearts. And then we know. We know it all."

Be well! Petri

Hi Bonadea, thank you very much for your help with my edits…I am still learning how to edit Wiki and have enormous respect for the site and its contributors so appreciate your feedback and advice. With respect to the concern I may be "too close to the subject", please note I am a tech journalist living in Los Angeles and my intention is only to ensure the site (and these particular articles) is as updated as possible with factually correct and timely information. There are numerous credible/objective reference links on this particular page which itself states nothing more than the facts about the organisation and its founder(s). Facts which are supported in the published news articles which take the form of the references. I have also ensured the articles are similarly formatted/written like existing Wiki articles about companies and CEOs in the same industry. If there is any particular line/paragraph that is causing concern please let me know and I will delete it or amend it to your satisfaction. I look forward to hearing from you. Kindest regards, LouiseFerguson (talk) 22:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: Responding to your message to me re: Midgard Software
Hello Bondea,

It is a pleasure to meet you, and thank you for your note.

I appreciate your mentioning that I should not update the publisher's name of a cited reference even if the publisher's name has changed. I had, indeed, begun to do this (as in the case of Midgard (software)), because I thought having cited publications listed under the publisher's name as it now exists would be more accurate. But I understand if you do not wish for this to be done, and I am actually grateful as this saves me much effort!

However, I do have a question about your deletion of a pre-existing section on the Magnolia (CMS) page. There had been a section titled "Industry Analysis," which included several citations. I noted that the link to one of the citations was missing/inactive and attempted to insert it. Instead, the entire section, as well as the citations, disappeared. Please, can you clarify for me what transpired here? I realize you removed the section, but I do not understand why.

Thank you for your attention and best wishes!

S.W. SWrightRSG (talk) 03:16, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Good day, Bondea, I just wanted to follow up and try to catch you at a moment when you might be free to clarify for me the above-mentioned edit on the Magnolia software page?

Thank you and best wishes S.W. (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Edits in Heartfulness page
Hi Bonadea,

Based upon the discussion in Talk page, I had spent a lot of time putting up an article with verifiable links, but I guess it was not up to WP's standard as much of it got reverted in 2 secs :). Anyways, I respect your experience and appreciate your help with the Heartfulness page, it's a relatively new concept or term hence a bit of problem in finding many verifiable source, please continue to guide us on how to proceed on new topics, I am sure Wikipedia has articles on emerging topics.

Duty2love (talk) 20:56, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bonadea,

Thanks for your detailed explanation here, it helped me understand clearly what was not right in the article. Duty2love (talk) 11:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Why the 9 films with average business removed?
74 films ran for more than 50 weeks, 22 ran for more than 25 but less than 50.other 9 films which did average business is mentioned in the book Bollywood through Ages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diluse (talk • contribs) 17:59, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * "Average business" is a vague statement that could mean anything. Since the source (which talks about "average hits" - even more vague, if possible) is a self-published book, and there is no information about where that number came from, it should not be included in an encyclopedia article. --bonadea contributions talk 18:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Average hits was the original word. It indicates that 9 films ran for lesser than 25 weeks but recovered production cost and made profits. Diluse (talk) 02:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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advertising and promotion
I'm new to this so please let me know how to define the tern "westplex" appropriately. This entry has been repeatedly vandalized with outlandish falsehoods. The version posted is the correct and verifiable creation litany of the term. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westplexguy (talk • contribs) 19:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

BP Tha Rock Kidd
So does the article for BP Tha Rock Kidd need secondary sources--LilTribz2 (talk) 13:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Bonadea for editing  my  Wiki additions. All I had wanted to  do  was  add that Museum "Our Dynamic Earth" to the  list  of  museums  in Edinburgh. It was a  simple  oversight  to not  list  it. My wife and  I  enjoyed  it so much  that  it  really  was  our  favorite  museum  in Scotland. I am new  a  Wiki editing. Who is  Mr Guye,  and  how  did he get  involved  with  your  edit?? Thanks Fiddler175 (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you - that's very much appreciatedQ --bonadea contributions talk 10:20, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Can you really ban me from editing?
On one of the comments on your talk page, you said you don't work for Wikipedia. How can you ban me from editing? Caleb David Smith (talk) 18:27, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Caleb
Thank you for explaining that to me. I am new here and I do appreciate that. Thanks, and God bless. Caleb David Smith (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Promotional Merchandise Page
Hi Bonadea,

Apologies if I have done anything wrong on this page. We work hard to publish good information on our website and I thought that this would be a good link to add as the page is somewhat out of date. Also I saw that reference number 3 had done a very similar edit and added a link to their blog and information. I feel that my edit was more appropriate as it cited the complete BPMA market research. Forgive me but is their link not more blatant? Please let me know and again apologies if I have not done the work in line with the true ethos of Wikipedia. I look forward to hearing from you. DawnKoffler 21:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding My Recent Contribution
I have just undo the changes from wikipedia article Matka gambling because the resources the previous author used are under creative commons license.And author website esattamatka clearly specifies its creative commons license at their footer.I think Jargon terms should be here on article and there will no problem in case of crative commons under.You may add credits back to original author if you want.

Hereby request you to undo changes.

Warm Regards

Regarding Prathamesh Parab's Wiki Page
Hi Bonadea , We got your messages regarding the contribution we have done for the Prathamesh Parab's page, for you kind of info we are Rudra Media ; handling the Digital PR activities of Prathamesh Parab. We have official autharities to promote him on online media. If you have any doubt you can confirm it. We want to spread the correct and true information of Prathamesh Parab. So its humble request to you that please dont do it again as you are doing it from last night.

Regards Nikhil Salaskar Rudra Media, Mumbai — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudra Media (talk • contribs) 12:26, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Two Different People
You have just undone my edits. But, that is not the way to do so if you don't know that those two people are different. check the talk page of where I have explained that Pooja Joshi and Puja Joshi are two different person. Or explain me brief that why these two article are merged as one. Prove the evidences that are appropriate. Abhishek8150 (talk) 06:47, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Proof Of My Talk Before
Thanks for replying on my talk page. And specially not understanding my point of view.

Now, Have a look at this links: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/gujarati/TV-selfies/photostory/46142455.cms & http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/gujarati/Pooja-Joshi-stars-along-with-Vimmy-Bhatt-in-Aa-Family-Comedy-Chhe/articleshow/45284874.cms & http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/gujarati/Prime-times-sizzling-hotties/photostory/45520563.cms For Puja Joshi (P.S. She personally writes her name as Puja), The second and third link clearly states that Aa Family Comedy Che is a Gujarati TV show. That means she is Gujarati actress. And Now check this link http://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/pooja-joshi-love-businessman-akola for Pooja Joshi. Did you find both face similar in the photograph? or they are looking different. Now check-out the info box of Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai which states the original languages of the show is Hindi. I hope surfing through provided links in this talk will help you. Abhishek8150 (talk) 07:02, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

You think it's guesswork then I can also say that yours is also guesswork. Now you have to provide even single link of your research stating that both are the same person. I know it does not seem any difference between spelling on media links. But, I first want to ask you how much do you know about Indian names and their spelling? The difference is not seen on the media links as Indians are just used to spell the name of a girl as "Pooja" if her name is that. That's the reason why I suggested you a personal suggestion as she is one of my closest relative. If you don't want to consider link provided above, just provide me even single link that is stating these two people are the same person. Because, I think the message which you put on my talk page says that a person can not be different from another person by his/her facial structure. Am I right?

To be cleared for that, someone has done that on my article. I have created article for Puja Joshi as I am her brother and team member handling online promotion of their show Aa Family Comedy Che. But, someone deleted the data what I have written and pasted it for Pooja Joshi. That's why I have separated both the pages. Pooja Joshi and Puja Joshi, but you have undone all my edits twice.

SMS: your revert
Hey Bonadea,

you reverted my commit with the reason WP:ELNO. Which of the listed no-gos did you choose to have a reason for your revert?

I think SnoopSnitch addresses several threads and vulnerabilities mentioned in the SMS article. Therefore, as a counter measure to protect a user's phone the SMS article should provide the links.

As an addition I could integrate an extra section in the SMS article about SnoopSnitch. A link to the homepage would have more reason to stay in the article.--Mdjango (talk) 08:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bonadea, can you let me know specifically which content on my wiki page for Spireon violates Wiki policies? Thank you. Lambao.truong (talk) 19:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Rishi Kapoor vandalism by Bonadea
The Rishi Kapoor article - is presently glorifying him unnecessarily. You are removing fact that he had only 11 successful films from 51 solo hero films and that he had only 25 successful films of the multi star films he did!

By not mentioning the article is excessive of POV and is not adhering to neutral point of view! The article is keeping quiet on whether of the 92 films he did as lead hero, all were successful? No. Majority were disasters(only 36 films of 92 have been successful).Phirkaisadarr (talk) 08:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Also if the articles is excessively detailed, remove the sentence that says he had 92 films as lead hero and do not mention the names of films which were successful!! since filmography is already provided, why do you need to mention any film for that matter! Phirkaisadarr (talk) 08:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * So add that specific information in a brief sentence ir two, without verbiage like "successful", "plum", and "disaster", and without adding undue detail about individual films. And unless you have a reliable source that states that specific fact it cannot be added. You can't draw your own conclusions (for instance looking at box office figures for individual films and extrapolate from that) and post those conclusions to Wikipedia, that's original research. Please discuss your proposed changes on the article's talk page, not here. And feel free to remove existing unsourced and non-neutral content from the article, especially irrelevant details designed to promote the person. Like I said on your talk page, the article is much too bloated in detail as it is and needs to be trimmed down. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 08:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

how will the reader know that only 36 of the 92 were successful, if its not mentioned? just add simple sentence - 1 liner - he had only 11 successful films from 51 solo hero films and that he had only 25 successful films of the multi star films he did. that gives clarity to the reader!!

People would get carried away and glorify the actor based on his wiki page saying Ohh since he played romantic lead in 92 films, may be he was very successful....which is false information/message going out to readers!!Phirkaisadarr (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Bonadea
Hi bonadea, Thanks for your message on wikipedia editing and took me through Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I am newbie in Wikipedia and I have been trying to contribute Wikipedia. I ensure you that I only edit pages that are of no professional interest; other than to further the knowledge within an area. I will make sure to follow Wikipedia policies and guidelines while editing a Wikipedia article in future. Thanks so much. Kate A. Steel (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Erick Schat's Bakkery
Hi Bonadea, I am new to Wikipedia and though I don't understand it fully, I know that the information I wrote is accurate and should be included under the Erick Schat's Bakkery page. There is, in fact, a second Schat's Bakkery in the town of Mammoth Lakes, owned and operated by his estranged wife, Shea Schat. It makes the same food, bread, etc, just in the town of Mammoth Lakes. That's all I was really trying to say. This wasn't included on the page and I felt it was necessary to include it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedarbee (talk • contribs) 18:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not how to respond to your response, so to avoid starting a new topic, i'll just edit this and add:

1. I must not understand HOW to verify something, because the information I added had 2 external links to two different sources verifying what I was saying, as well as one internal link about the town of Mammoth. 2. I don't think you understand that Schat's bakery is the same. There are two of them. That's the point i'm trying to get across. Both of them are the exact same. They are not different. They at one time were owned by the same family. That family split up, but still, they are the exact same stores. The legality of the ownership may have changed, but that did not change the fact that Schat's bakery - the small bakery business - has two locations. One in Bishop and one in Mammoth Lakes.

I'm not just adding to this article the fact that another bakery is named Schat's. I'm adding the fact that there are in fact two Schats bakeries, one in Bishop and one in Mammoth Lakes. There is not just one. There are two. And they are the same bakeries. Just in different locations. It is a business move that successful small businesses make to expand their profits. I don't know when it happened, given it was probably some time ago. But I do know that there are two. I said that, and I linked to websites that confirmed what I had written. I think it is pertinent to this article, or any article of a small business for that matter. Or larger business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedarbee (talk • contribs) 21:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)