User talk:Chongkian/Archive 10

Nomination of Dabie Mountain Regional Medical Centre for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dabie Mountain Regional Medical Centre is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Dabie Mountain Regional Medical Centre until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Da Vinci Nanjing (talk) 15:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello
Hi hope you're well! Did you run out of Taiwan articles LOL? Or enjoying a well deserved break haha! :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:53, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Lol, I have created 1,667 articles about Taiwan since 2012 out of the current 9,724 articles in WikiProject Taiwan (excluding category & list-related pages/articles), that is about 17% already, hehe. I have to say those tourism-related articles (museums, galleries, parks, shopping malls, forests etc) is almost reaching its saturation point already (of course there are still 1 or 2 new ones after every 2-3 months). Even I have written quite a lot of Wikiquote articles about people of Taiwan. What can still be continuously written currently are those politicians (new ministers, MP (member of legislative yuan)), yet those politicians can only be written after some period of time (e.g. which generally keeps changing after every 4 years after the general and local elections). So what I'm currently focusing on doing now is to clean up & streamline their WikiProject categorization & evaluation (class & importance) in their talk page, their infobox information, their category page, their commons category page and also their Wikidata page, to make sure all of the available data is fully written, tally and linked with each other. This is currently the bigger things that I am doing and that can be done until some foreseeable future. And no, there is no such thing as a break for me in Wikipedia ~ :P Once you are already inside it, there is no such thing as a "way out" of this, haha Chongkian (talk) 14:06, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Adding commons cat, like you here, or here, is really not necessary, as the commons cats are already linked. (Look on the left side of the page, under "In other projects"), cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes while I do know there is link there at the left side of the page, then why where is that 'commonscat' / 'commons category' command at the first place in wikipedia? besides, there are so many other wikipedia articles which has that commonscat inside their article body content. i mean, i will just follow the rule of wikipedia writing if there is one, or if there has been any consensus on that. Chongkian (talk) 00:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Question
Just curious, why did you add a welcome notice to my talk page? I have been contributing to WP articles since 2012. Regards, Ijon Tichy (talk) 19:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry maybe I have missed that out since there is no conversation (old or now, nor any archive) in your talk page. Chongkian (talk) 00:23, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

in the old days
Indonesian project tried to keep anything to do with schools out on notability grounds, and also the decided disinterest in every school in Indonesia being listed - in all likelihood there are fewer than 20 schools primary or secondary that might reach strict standards of notability - for the whole country.. But things creep in, there are some bizarre lists of names of regencies and localities that counter the school argument, but nevertheless there is no longer a cohort of project oriented editors who keep up with things that creep in. Not sure what you have been up to - but felt i needed to point that out before I have a look at what has been going on. JarrahTree 09:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If you see my edits on the schools, it is mostly on the Wikipedia category pages, not on any new Wikipedia article written. Even the school categorization, I follow what has been written already in any other existing country (e.g. United States, in which every single little thing (which is soo much not notable and so trivial) got fully written without any AfD challenge, so basically I'm not doing anything new here. I'm just focusing on the school-related categorization "equality", just like when people do "gender equality" article writing in Wikipedia. I don't see any difference here. For the question of notability, I am 100% sure it is always about the newly written Wikipedia article itself, it has almost nothing to do with Wikipedia categorization pages. Besides, I need to create that high school category in order to "combine" and "consolidate" between the school itself and its alumni. Is there any better idea on how to connect school and its alumni if it is not using category page? And I believe everything must always have its newly start first in which at the beginning it may look trivial (and not notable at all), but actually it gives a solid ground and "infrastructure" for other people to further populate that category in the longer run. And also upon the creation of such categories, I didn't see any deletion notification of such categories before, thus I assume such categories have never been created before (and never been challenged also). I've seen also differences in notability about Indonesia between (id.wikipedia and en.wikipedia). Indonesia in id.wikipedia has sooo many articles about schools or mosques written, yet in its equivalent en.wikipedia, there is virtually very few in comparison. Same with anything about Malaysia between ms.wikipedia and en.wikipedia, the content is way so much different in terms of its notability content and the quality also, e.g. in ms.wikipedia, there are "thousands" of mosque articles until the very small and tiny ones, yet they are not found in its equivalent en.wikipedia. So probably we need to address this long-due "gap" as well as what I can see. Chongkian (talk) 09:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * now three edit conflicts, and lengthy replies lost - will try to get back later, pointless during edit conflicts... JarrahTree 09:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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Pescadores Channel
Hello there. In this edit, you seem not only to have delinked Wiktionary, but also added an incorrect pronunciation. I would like to request, editor to editor, that if you have a moment, please restore the links to Wiktionary and provide a correct pronunciation. If you are philosophically opposed to doing it, let me know and I will do it myself. Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Years in Spain by autonomous cities


A tag has been placed on Category:Years in Spain by autonomous cities requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 14:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Miquelon Airport
Hi, I've edited your edit on the article on Miquelon Airport with a hopefully more neutral phrase and links. Please take a look and see if it makes sense or needs more editing (or removal). Here's the diff between our edits:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Miquelon_Airport&type=revision&diff=949614793&oldid=949588005

Thanks,

Lent (talk) 14:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

You appear to be making many Infobox talk pages worse
Why are you doing edits like this (removed class parameters and one WikiProject template) and this (removed class and importance parameters) and this (removed WikiProject banner shell template and a relevant template)? Is there a consensus discussion that justifies removing these useful parameters? – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:06, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Jonesey95
 * Previously, I have always try to keep the class of the WikiProject I am editing (e.g. "{ { Wiki Project ABC|class=template|importance=NA } }. But I was prompted by other users (I forgot which user, but I will let you know once I've found his/her conversation with me), that for non-article grading (e.g. stub, start, C, B, A, GA etc) such as project, category or template-class, we can safely remove the class rating and that particular WikiProject will automatically include itself with those particular class (project-class, category-class or template-class) and when you search in that particular WikiProject page, it indeed listed already inside its listing. So this is kind of "size-saving" or "streamlining" way of writing WikiProject classification. Chongkian (talk) 06:36, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that explanation. Can you please explain the third edit I linked, in which you removed a WikiProject banner shell template and one of the WikiProject templates? – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries
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 * Hi again Jonesey95
 * Generally I always write the edit summary if I edit an article content. But if I'm editing the infrastructure or maintenance related pages (or standardization of page's categorizations), then somehow it is a so many redundancy to write edit summary for a very small changes (one small change but being redo/reapplied to other tens of other articles) yet applied again & again to many other pages. Maybe you know some way of 'copying' the same edit summary to many other articles at the same time so that I dont have to write it again and again for a very small change (yet still considered more than just a 'minor edit' of typo for example). Chongkian (talk) 06:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Copy and paste is a feature of all computer operating systems, and has been for more than thirty years. Please use it. Some web browsers will also fill in a previous edit summary for you if you type the first few letters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Category talk pages
Hi, I notice you've been creating a lot of category talk pages. If you're doing that for specific wikiprojects that you know are interested in having their categories tagged, then that's great. But otherwise, creating category talk pages has little benefit, and some noticeable, if small harm. For instance, if the a talk page doesn't exist its tab on the category page will be red and this makes it a lot easier to notice if a category has something relevant on its talk page – like a discussion or old CfD tags – because then that link would be blue. – Uanfala (talk) 01:56, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Scope of WikiProject Wikipedia
, thank you for placing WikiProject banners. Please note however, that not every category with the word "Wikipedia" in the name is in the scope of WP:WikiProject Wikipedia. The scope os described at the top of the WikiProject's page:

Please don't add the banner of WikiProject Wikipedia to pages out of scope. Thanks. —⁠andrybak (talk) 08:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Removing WikiProject banners
You have twice removed WikProject NBA from Template talk:Infobox basketball final without any explanation. The project uses the template, and you are not a member of the project. If you are not familiar with the basketball domain, I suggest that you ask for input in the future for any similar edits. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 08:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello. You have again inexplicably removed the NBA project from a template the project uses. Can you please explain what you are trying to accomplish for a project you do not seem to be involved with? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 04:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week
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Measuring tool
You can check the length of your entries using this tool before submitting here. The article readable prose, excluding sources and lists should be a minimum 1200 bytes (1.2 KB) and ideally 1500 bytes (1.5 KB).

What would make it easier on this is if everybody programs their common.js in their preferences to contain:

importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js');               // User:Dr pda/prosesize

Instructions: † Encyclopædius  15:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Go into your preferences, click on the "Appearances" tab
 * 2) Where it says "Shared CSS/JavaScript for all skins:", click "custom javascript
 * 3) Paste the command given above into that and save.
 * 4) Now approach an article and look in the tools section on the left. You should see "Page size". Click that for each article and you'll quickly get a reading without having to paste text all of the time and look externally.
 * 5) Look out for where it says, for example: "Prose size (text only): 1310 B (xxx words) "readable prose size" ". That's what we're looking for on this, that has to read over 1200 B when finished.

Removing Redirects
I noticed that you removed the redirects from Module talk:Sports table/WL OT and Module talk:Sports table/WDL. However, you did not give a reason for removing these redirects that were put in place five years ago to consolidate all discussion at Module talk:Sports table. I have reverted your removals. If you feel these redirects should be removed, please bring it up for discussion there. — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 22:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

photos in australia
there is a certain level of cynicism arising when seeing photos requested - something as a simple check on commons is worth doing before adding the tag

, and there is always the potential that wiki editors are unlikelt to have have ventured... JarrahTree 12:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * hmm, let me go through it one by one again more carefully. usually I do try to look out for the images, and those who have images, i also remove the photo request template in the talk page. but yeah, probably i might have missed out 1 or 2 of them. Chongkian (talk) 13:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I am intrigued as well as to why caves assessment is being removed ? Ahh I just remembered it is a project that is for whatever bizarre reason it is an unassessed project... :) apologies I had forgotten

No big deal about photo request, you never know... JarrahTree 13:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that WikiProject Cave is without any class or importance rating, so it's better to keep it as short as possible for any non-applicable data. these are the things (sometimes) some of the (hopefully) unaware users becomes a bit 'hostile' to me, thinking that i start to vandalize things around, hehe. but in reality, it is all about standardization & streamlining whenever applicable (or such as removing defunct wikiproject or moving a particular inactive wikiproject as a task force of any existing wikiproject - it does involve quite a lot of work just to monitor all of those things & to get things updated & at the right place), and it is hard to keep writing that very minor change in the edit summary in which u need to type one whole sentence for a single word deletion, lol. cheers (especially for whatever we do during this virus lockdown period) .. Chongkian (talk) 14:53, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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Confusing edit
Why did you do this? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like replacing a template redirect with the current name of the template. As I mentioned above, it would have been nice to have an edit summary. Please provide one with every edit in order to help your fellow editors understand your reasoning. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * My apology for that. From now on I will try to always put an edit summary on every change that I've made. Chongkian (talk) 00:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Kinmen Bridge
Hey- I found a picture of Kinmen Bridge on Flickr, and there may be more- check it out if you are interested. You know more about this topic than me. Geographyinitiative (talk) 05:50, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh great, we need that images (either those during the construction stages or once it has been completed. But I'm not sure on how to move/copy images from Flickers (which I believe they are all conforms to Creative Commons) to Wikimedia Commons. Chongkian (talk) 00:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1884 establishments in Taiwan


A tag has been placed on Category:1884 establishments in Taiwan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 14:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

sense of humour always required in the place
otherwise the turkeys will get you down - I like this one,but changed it ... - cheers JarrahTree 14:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah ya, that country (music)/countries (political boundary) thingy is too little to notice the difference, something that I rarely checking it after it gets published. perhaps they should rename 'country' to 'country music' wikiproject to make it more obvious to editors Chongkian (talk) 00:23, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * obvious? nah the late douglas adams had a thing about similar things and notifications: - in a locked cabinet, behind a door 'dont feed the leopard', in the bottom section of a stariwell - hampir sama tempat sandi sandi dalam tempat mysterious JarrahTree 02:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Removal of WikiProject Banners
Hello. A few weeks ago, you removed the WP:LGBT tag from the from the following categories. These are all very clearly within WP:LGBT's scope. As WikiProjects set their own scope and determine what articles fall within it (WP:PROJSCOPE), please don't remove WikiProject tags without consulting with the project. Thanks!--Trystan (talk) 20:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Sexual orientation-related lists
 * Category:Sexual orientation and medicine
 * Category:Sexual orientation and military service
 * Category:Sexual orientation and psychology
 * Category:Sexual orientation and science
 * Category:Sexual orientation and sports
 * Category:Sexuality and gender identity-based cultures
 * Please stop removing categories from the scope of WP:LGBT without consulting the WikiProject.--Trystan (talk) 04:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Curious welcome template...
Hi there,

What exactly was the point of this welcome template? Or indeed this one?

I've been here over 11 years with 30,000+ edits, and AneHara has been around since 2016. So thanks, but, er, why? Chaheel Riens (talk) 06:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Requesting small help
Hello many greetings,

Requesting your proactive contribution and support in updating Draft:Aurats (word) in relation to the languages you know well.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 02:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

淑 shú instead of shū
   Minor issue: Taiwan has its own standard for Mandarin Chinese pronunciations. Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:46, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Same issue as above. Confirmation of this pronunciation in local media: Let us not be in such a hurry to learn about China that we ignore the special aspects of Taiwan. Geographyinitiative (talk) 20:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Indeed MDBG (one of the Chinese dictionaries I use) notes when pronunciation is different between Mainland and Taiwan. I would list both when they differ, such as ABC (Mainland), DEF (Taiwan) or something to that effect. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Wrong. If a person and their society exclusively uses one pronunciation, that's the native pronunciation. It is not appropriate to include non-native pronunciations on English Wikipedia pages. Imagine if you had a Wikipedia page, and your name had a variant pronunciation you and your society don't use that is part of the pronunciation scheme of a hostile power. Geographyinitiative (talk) 20:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I checked the diffs and found that it relates to Hsu Jung-shu who is an ROC citizen. Since there are heavy ties with Taiwan or the ROC then I would still include both but reverse the order so Taiwan/ROC pronunciation comes first, perhaps as "Taiwan pinyin" (pronounced as "ABC" in the Mainland) because there would be an interest from our readers in whether this would be different in the Mainland. Without an explicit notice of such the reader wouldn't know.
 * As for the last sentence, just on a personal note, there indeed is a reason (actually several) why I've permanently returned to the United States.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 20:35, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

If there is no evidence someone has used a given pronunciation for their foreign language name, including that information on their English Wikipedia page in any capapcity is pushing a fake name on a person. Geographyinitiative (talk) 20:43, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Pronunciations are hardwired into each character. To get around that all one needs to do is to say "the character is pronounced as "X" in Mainland China." It doesn't even say that she personally uses such a pronunciation in any way. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Why is that data relevant to her on her Wikipedia page? Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It's relevant to explain to the reader why the pinyin is such. Better to explain it than for an uninformed editor drive by and change it. Also I think we should move this discussion to each talk page. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:25, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The point of including foreign language material on English Wikipedia is not to generate new names for people that have never been said aloud. The point is to provide data about the name of the person as they use it in their native language. Non-native linguistic data can be threshed out on alternate language versions of Wikipedia or in Wiktionary. All that is allowed on the page for English Wikipedia is the foreign language name the person uses, no non-native foreign language content. Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Same issue as above Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Uhm, all of these pinyin I got directly from Google Translate. I set the language to Chinese (the left side column) and paste the Chinese characters. It will appear below it, thus I shall use that for the Pinyin for any Chinese name (be it Mainland, Taiwanese or any overseas Chinese). Chongkian (talk) 08:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing Google Translate uses Mainland pinyin tables. Usually the pinyin readings are the same for any characters across the straits, but in Chinese dictionaries I found that very occasionally the pinyin does differ in Taiwan. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I got an idea. Probably we need to fully documented those differences in a new Wikipedia article, let's say with a title "Differences in pinyin between Chinese language used in Mainland China, Taiwan and Singapore" (places which uses Chinese language (Mandarin) as their official language). Chongkian (talk) 00:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome & subst
Hi Chongkian! I noticed the welcome on my talk page (although I've been here for a bit), and I thought I'd drop by and thank you, and also note that welcomeh appears to have to be subst-ed. (It appears to be a bit broken without it.) I was also a tad curious why it ended up on the top, and whether there was a general rule about talk pages being chronological or not. LittlePuppers (talk) 01:48, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Talk header banner
Hi, please only add Talk header to talk pages that have an obvious need for it. Per the template page, "This template should be used only when needed. There is no need to add this template to every talk page.". Thanks. BilCat (talk) 07:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry for that. I was advised last time only to use talk header when there is a conversation, then advised again when there are few/many conversations. Chongkian (talk) 01:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

RfA
Hi, I think you should withdraw your RfA. At this point, it’s unfortunately not going pass, and it’s usually best to end it when that becomes clear. I initially supported, but I can’t any more, and when initial supports start telling you the times up, it usually is. Sorry again. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Uhm, any code I should do to withdraw RfA? should i use the 'NOTNOW' in this following code ; Scheduled to end 20:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC) ? Chongkian (talk) 02:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just go to the bottom where you accepted and strike it and then say you withdraw under it. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I've closed your RfA. As someone who withdrew their own RfA a few years back, I hope this experience doesn't discourage you. Hopefully, you can find some guidance from this whole experience and try again in the future, if that is your desire. And if not, I encourage you to keep on improving Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia projects, for that matter from what I read in the RfA) as you have been for the last 10+ years. If anything, to me, your dedication to helping these projects is evident. Steel1943  (talk) 03:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. Like Steel1943 said above, I hope the RfA doesnt discourage you. I suggest to you to keep visiting WP:ANI twice in a week, dont comment there; just see whats going on. I also suggest you to increase your activity as a participant in AfDs. After Basically, step-by-step, get involved in more venues of wikipedia, try getting advanced user rights along with experience; and you will be ready for the next RfA in less than 10 months :) —usernamekiran (talk) 09:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Removing WikiProject banners
Please do not remove WP Energy banners form the power station, including hydroelectric power stations articles. Removing it excludes also relevant articles from the automatic Article Alert for the relevanr WikiProject. Beagel (talk) 17:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of WCTC Shopping Center for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article WCTC Shopping Center is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/WCTC Shopping Center until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  // Timothy ::  talk  19:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Shopping malls in Palau


A tag has been placed on Category:Shopping malls in Palau requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 19:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear ,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more. &#x200B;

Best regards, Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 00:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Lin Ming-chen
Thanks again for your work on Taiwan related topics. I wanted to point out one minor error in this edit: Lín Míngqín should be Lín Míngzhēn- I corrected it. Just a note to be careful! Keep up your great work. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:50, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Years in Spain by autonomous city


A tag has been placed on Category:Years in Spain by autonomous city requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Decades in Spain by autonomous city


A tag has been placed on Category:Decades in Spain by autonomous city requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Regarding this? Like I stated here, this helps people find the archived discussions.

If you unnecessarily removed this template from other talk pages, you should add it back. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 21:58, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I see above. Someone advised you wrong. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I am probably wrong
but there is no harm in 2 projects having a wpbs - unless there is rule somewhere - I used to be very against bs - but then found that when using Rater - the existence of 3 provided automatic allocation.

In the end bs are useful in that they reduce the opportunity of vandalism and random misuse - I would think that there are so few regular talk page / project editors in action that removing bs seems a superfluous activity - as I said I used to be against them, but I would argue for their retention even for 1 project JarrahTree 09:40, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Initially I always use bs even for 2 wp (and more than 2 wp of course), but then i was told by other editor that bs is only for 3 or more wp (from this Template:WikiProject banner shell, which states This template combines several talk page banners (generally three or more) into a nested shell. (the rule use the word 'generally' so I am not sure if that is strictly speaking or there are some exceptions can be done) So from that time onwards, i try to standardize that ruling to every 2 wp that I see/encounter. So yeah, should we just leave things as they are? Or we should do standardization/clean up of Wikipedia layout as much as we can? If you see my edit (I believe you are really familiar with my edit style :D ), it is not always about the removing of bs for 2 wp, but also other things (filling in class & importance rating for articles, removing class & importance for category/template/portal because they are automatically assigned, again this one also i was told by other editor as well before). And again, some rules in Wikipedia are highly enforced (e.g. referencing) yet some other rules are there but there is no enforcement at all (act as guideline only), so when people start to enforce it, there is sort of like change in status quo where everyone will start to get huha. I'm completely open to any agreed consensus and to follow them strictly, yet it has to be consistent. Chongkian (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Associated Students of National Central University for deletion
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add commonscat
I see you are making a lot of edits with the edit summary add commonscat. You might want to put a space in there, when I read it, it parsed as "add common scat". Regards, Tarl N. ( discuss ) 05:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'll take note on that. i use the term 'commonscat' because basically you can display that link to Wikimedia Commons by using { {commonscat} }, or in the full phrase { {commons category} }. both works in Wikipedia. but yeah, maybe some editors might not be too familiar with some short-form of the coding Chongkian (talk) 08:24, 29 December 2020 (UTC)