User talk:Chongkian

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Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

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 * Thank you! ~ :D Chongkian (talk) 09:20, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of tourist attractions in China


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Proposed deletion of List of tourist attractions in Hong Kong


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Proposed deletion of List of tourist attractions in Indonesia


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Why moved the page?
@Chongkian sire, I would like to ask you the reason, that why have you moved the more appealing and condensed title, Republic of Taiwan, Holy See to it's long form, " Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) to the Holy See . please see Naming conventions (government and legislation). Please, don't make it a stand out article from others. follow the standard, that is being used in naming the diplomatic missions. Please, refrain from using the long, official, governmental names (Please do not include the official names of the country, as the rest diplomatic missions never use them, anyways, and aren't used here as well.)Utkarsh555 17:21, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I was just reverting the article name to the original Embassy of the Republic of China to the Holy See which that article name was named as such since 12 March 2016‎ and everyone agreed to that for the past 6 years, before you moved it to the new name on 23 February 2022 without any consensus in your edit summary‎. When you wish to move an article, please have a consensus first and invite people from WikiProject Taiwan to have a discussion on that. You didn't even write in your edit summary (on any agreed consensus regarding the name) when you moved the article. You are also not even the member of WikiProject Taiwan, the page where all of these kind of discussion have been taking place. Based on the WP:NCGAL, the very first point says 'Use official names in article titles', in which that Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) to the Holy See is exactly written in their official English-language website of the embassy. Based on MOS:NC-CN, the term People's Republic of China is used when discussing about politics or diplomatic relations, thus the same applied to the Republic of China. For Taiwan case, due to their political nature, their representative office's name is really unique with case by case basis. For countries which recognize Republic of China as the sole government of China, the term Embassy of the Republic of China is used. While those countries who recognize People's Republic of China as the sole legitimate government of China, they will use Taipei Representative Office or even Taiwan Representative Office (for Lithuania and Somaliland) and their variant. Each of this has their own reason, and thus can't be standardize for every Taiwan's embassy or representative office to be just Taiwan Embassy of xxx. Over time, these naming might change due to political change across the Taiwan Strait, thus exact official naming is really desired to represent the current situation of Taiwan/ROC's diplomatic relations. Chongkian (talk) 00:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Chongkian Ok, but then why don't every country is made to use it's official name? Utkarsh555 09:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Military Intelligence Bureau

 * The page is translated done and edited. Since the article had a major restructuring, you may make a rating. -- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 19:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi. The article looks good enough already to be rated C-class article per WP:CCLASS. For some improvement, you can also add the short description per WP:SHORTDES and also its official website inside infobox and external link section if any per WP:ELOFFICIAL. You might also want to translate the list of reference titles listed there into English (for the non-English title) per Template:Cite web. Also to post the photo of the organization headquarters building inside infobox if any. And you might want to write down the name of the incumbent Director-General and Deputy Director-General of the organization inside the infobox. :) Chongkian (talk) 05:08, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Okay, I made 3 main edits today. I archived all the links in the article. Then, I translated the web titles and also marked in Khaki color to improve readability. Also, I added the director's name (I may request to recover the deleted page) in the infobox. As for the photo, I will try look into if any place has it. I also wonder why do you suggest to translate the titles. Those sites are all in Chinese. Would it increase the rating by the way? I don't think the reader would click the links in Chinese. It's a fully translation, though. -- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 02:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, that one (to translate the non-English title), I think that is part of the referencing rule in Wikipedia. Non-English sources is acceptable, but when the title is not in English, then we only need to translate the title only, by adding the 'language=' and 'trans-title=' as part of the citation with the full coding/syntax written inside Template:Cite web page. Usually that will help the English-speaking readers inside Wikipedia. Same like when you write in Chinese Wikipedia, then the English sources you need to translate the title from English to Chinese. Some of the English-speaking readers in English Wikipedia might still click and read the Chinese sources (by the help of Google Translate). A lot of people do that actually based on my experience. Of course if the information is available in English website, then we shall prioritize that one first over the Chinese website source per WP:NONENGEL. Like this Tainan Mosque article that I wrote, the reference number 6 is a Chinese source, in which I translate the title to English in the 'reflist' part and add the language of the news source (台南清真寺隱身社區透天厝 平日大門深鎖 [The Hidden Community of Tainan Mosque, Locked on Weekdays] (in Chinese).). That is one of the example. Chongkian (talk) 03:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I see. -- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 03:29, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I came here to inform. I plan to remove the English translation on the titles of Chinese media. The MIB has been nominated for weekly translation. Then it would affect the versions in multiple languages if it's promoted on the agenda. So it shall be kept with original titles.-- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 05:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Newtalk

 * Hey, you may do a favor. The Taiwanese media Newtalk has no article here. You need to create one. This media become frequently quoted by some articles that I edited. -- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 07:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok I will have a look into it. I'm currently busy lately, so I haven't created many new article. Chongkian (talk) 00:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Help with moving WikiProject SEA articles to WikiProject Brunei
I've recently created and would really appreciate it if you helped move  to the new template. - nathanielcwm (talk) 04:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * But once I've changed to {WikiProject Brunei}, the WikiProject banner template still display Brunei as a taskforce of WikiProject Southeast Asia. Chongkian (talk) 00:30, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Flag of Saudi Arabia
Hi! I saw that you were a member of WikiProject Saudi Arabia and wanted to let you know that there's currently an RFC going on on the talk page for the flag of Saudi Arabia on Commons which you might be interested in participating in. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks! HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 18:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you. Chongkian (talk) 02:26, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Template categories headers
Please avoid adding empty values for template Template category as you did in Special:Diff/1114167129. Empty values only clutter the category pages and empty parameter type actually causes a minor glitch in the output. I've added more samples to the documentation to make them easily copy-pasteable. —⁠andrybak (talk) 02:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, sorry. Cuz all these while I just followed the same MoS 'style' when inputting Infoboxes (leaving the empty parameters as it is until one day more information are available to be put into those parameters). Chongkian (talk) 02:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Saint Barthélemy templates


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 * I understand that you created the template, and made the request for speedy deletion, but intended to create . Thank you for explaining what happened! (Sorry, but I had to put this notice on your talk page anyway.)  I wanted you to be aware that there already exists a Category with that name. It seems to be a correctly constructed. You can't create a Category:Saint Barthélemy templates because it would be a duplicate. Is there anything I am not understanding? If there is, let's include it on the talk page for the existing category, if possible. If not, you might put it on the to-be-deleted Template:Saint Barthélemy templates talk page, just to get help. --FeralOink (talk) 04:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Ya, before I intended to create that Category:Saint Barthélemy templates, I search the wrong keyword (which was Template:Saint Barthélemy templates), then Wikipedia showed no result for that, thus I created that Template:Saint Barthélemy templates. Then only I realized it was a typo from the very beginning when I used "Template:xxx" instead of "Category:xxx". That's why I requested the speedy deletion for that Template:Saint Barthélemy templates page. Chongkian (talk) 00:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Liga 3
Malaysia M3 League is main article, please delete/merge Liga M3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportski recenzist (talk • contribs) 19:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You can start a discussion for article merging for this. You can do it at the talk page of Malaysia M3 League at (Talk:Malaysia M3 League) or at the talk page of WikiProject Malaysia (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Malaysia). Chongkian (talk) 00:39, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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You realize you're replying to comments made well over 15 years ago... &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if there is any mechanism to show that a particular discussion is closed already (been archived) since it has been solved or it is always opened for discussion before the problem got solved? Because editors may not always look at the date of a particular discussion on when it was posted (or last commented). Chongkian (talk) 00:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Chongkian!


Happy New Year! Chongkian, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thank you! 新年快樂！ Chongkian (talk) 01:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Stub sorting
Hi, regarding the page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Article alerts that you created. It says "This page is maintained by WikiProject Stub sorting", but that isn't true - whilst it's within the scope of WikiProject Stub sorting, the page is maintained by. Also, I don't think that the banner is intended for use on anything other than the talk pages of stub templates and stub cats - see WP:WSS. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 10:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy Fourteenth First Edit Day!

 * Thank you! ~ :D Chongkian (talk) 09:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Flag of Sarawak
still trying to learn... was looking at the assessment for the Flag of Sarawak page. I did a major revamp a while back - so I'm wondering if the current rating is for the old version or the current version? Is there a way to see when something was rated?

MatSallehSesat (talk) 05:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It will be in the history of the talk page. The last change to the class was sixteen years ago. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That page has already reached the minimum level of C-class article already per WP:CCLASS. Chongkian (talk) 09:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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Leaving a welcome template
Be sure to substitute those templates. See welcomeh. Use, instead of. I fixed |User talk:Simón Rosales Lp, but you should go back and fix the rest. A bot will probably fix them. The username is not displayed correctly. Thank you Adakiko (talk) 04:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didnt notice that. Because usually most of the (other) templates when I paste it on any Wikipedia articles, I will just use the template page name (without the 'subst:' part). I'll use this new one after this. Chongkian (talk) 05:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Wrong user(موش خرابکار)
Hello Please see the edits of the Persian page related to Palermo club Both you and I know that "Buffon" was not a member of Palermo! I have edited several times but this user@AWQyui is vandalizing and even insulting which I am sending you to delete Thank you for taking care VikCity1 (talk) 06:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Report!
Hello Again This user@Kasir thinks that because he has been in this project for a long time, he can take matters forward with the Iranian senior managers of the project. For example, I delete the insults related to me from his page and he returns them. He is jealous because I have done well in the field of football please consider it VikCity1 (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for the clarification. Chongkian (talk) 02:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Not sure what your intentions were...
...but you just welcomed an editor with a blatant username violation and thanked them for their contributions which consisted solely of vandalism. There's a reason why we don't welcome editors who haven't made any edits.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, I see you're welcome people upon account creation regardless of whether they've edited. That's really discouraged, even the Welcoming committee specifically advises against it.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The welcoming note is not for editors with vast contribution. It is especially for newbie with little or no contribution, to tell to them what are the do's & don'ts in Wikipedia, so as to avoid any potential editor who will violate the rules and regulations of Wikipedia. So at least with that welcoming note, there is a black & white ground to warn or block editor in the case of any violation made by him/her. Or is there any other way (or better way) on how to properly welcome and brief the newbie editors? I'm completely open for that. Chongkian (talk) 07:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * sheesh your english shows you up! The point made above is saying if you welcome new users ( a much more polite - lebih sopan - way of naming them) - you must be very aware that the welcoming committee would prefer to see an. edit or two - to go to recent changes and simply welcoming red linked new users is a very precarious (kurang sehat) way of dealing with the new user - it is always better to see their edits before welcoming (perlahan perlahan). I know some admins would give you a very hard time if you did the welcome red links in a large scale - before there is any sign of edits of any kind. JarrahTree 07:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok. If we have an MoS which can nicely write and summarize all of these (in the topic of dealing/welcoming with new editors), that would be really nice. Because I think got some other editors who always give this welcoming note to newly joined/registered editors, that's why I was trying to follow that style. I am not sure if that is BOT/automatically done by script or manually done like me. Chongkian (talk) 08:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Uhm, looks like the MoS to deal with my inquiry above is already written in Welcoming committee. Ok, I shall read that MoS first now. I only know about it now, my apology. Chongkian (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If you havent got the preference have a look -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle - well worth getting it..

On the basis that even consideringCreated page with subst:welcomeh becomes completely irrelevent if you use twinkle! in your preferences - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets

then - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences there is no need to activate all the parts - the welcome section is worth having on! well worth the time to have a look - as well as - for talk pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evad37/rater well worth the time to checkout! JarrahTree 09:10, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

maaf, tetapi
Re glam in Queensland... The adding of the 'project' to anything that relates to glam, or wikimedia - was a standard way of separating content talk pages from the glam/wikmimedia aspect of things - streamlining is hardly an adequate explanation of why and how removing the tag is of anyone's understanding of what is what - very specifically the australian chapter/project when it is involved in things - the usage of the tag helps keep it separate from the assessment issues... I sure hope in your massive edit count (now) that you havent streamlined too much! Please understand each country has differences in understanding such identification - it requires a bit of a 'check' before delete/revert. Hati hati - you must have developed either a sense of humour by now with that number of edits, or maybe you are more cynical, or even understand irony perhaps? JarrahTree 07:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi JarrahTree. As you and I know, I had been editing in the main space of Wikipedia extremely a lot since years ago. And since a couple years ago, I started to try and explore on the editing outside the main space (e.g. on category, template, portal, including all of their talk pages, thus the wikiproject tagging for these non-main/non-article pages). From what I see, since there are extremely few people editing in this non-main pages, the MoS (manual of style) for editing these pages are not fully developed or are not really complete to cover all of the small issues (in which 99.99% of Wikipedia editors will probably never bother to look at), thus I can see so many aspects are in the grew area (not enough black and white to begin with). Most of the WikiProjects are left inactive or defunct because the time where people play around with this WikiProject was probably 10 years ago. Nowadays, not so many editors play around with WikiProjects editing (aside from the famous and highly used WikiProjects), because probably they are more towards Wikidata now (my wild guess). So I can see extremely lack of standardization of applying this MoS to any WikiProject-related pages, thus my recent edit works are mostly in this. I know on that 'streamlining' edit summary, that is what so far I haven't found out the MoS to cover that. Before this, we had to specify one is template, category or project in the 'class='. later on, even when the class= is left empty, the WikiProject banner will automatically display those class. And only recently (starting last month I think), now all of the non-main/article pages (the non-GA/B/C/start/stub pages), their WikiProject banner will not even display those template, category, project class anymore. And yes, I do realize some particular WikiProject (especially country-based) has slightly different style of writing, and I apologize if I overlook into that. This special MoS is more towards country-based, instead of topic based. And I know WikiProject Australia is quite active in this with high level of patrol (if I put this correctly) among its articles, that's why from that itself I don't do much edit on Australia-related articles or WikiProject, aside from a couple of new articles about Australia I have created before. Chongkian (talk) 08:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

lucu sekali
The wisest thing which many editors dont take seriously enough - if you dont know anything about it - dont edit it! Malay and Indonesian articles are in themselves worthy of much more closer examination - atrocious english (in some cases not even comprehendable) and in many cases lots of cleanup-able parts of articles - and singapore and brunei I havent checked carefully to offer an opinion. But then it is very easy to take it all too seriously - editing, that is... Some mistakes and errors are very funny when viewed, and in the end, no one seems to be interested in maintenance - but that is a very long drawnout issue across projects. I fully disagree with the idea of 'inactive' projects - they might look that way, they are waiting to be re-awakened after their siesta/istirihat, like a phoenix in a harry potter movie or something similar... In the end, take care! hati hati, saya tak mau mengangu (atau something similar) JarrahTree 08:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding edits such as [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention/Members&curid=59338912&diff=1155041642&oldid=873022476 this one]: note it's not necessary to tag subpages of the WikiProject as being within the scope of the WikiProject. Note the relevant sections in WikiProject Council/Guide are really about tagging articles, as this will enable article alerts to be raised for them. The retention WikiProject, in particular, has no articles associated with it as it is not a content-area related initiative. Happy editing! isaacl (talk) 16:13, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help improvements. Thanks you. 2402:800:6344:6610:E9CA:3119:3C88:9387 (talk) 03:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, that article is C-class already. It is quite well-written so far. And I recall I was asked to improve that same article also some time ago. Chongkian (talk) 03:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
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awas mas!
please excuse the bhs jawa - boats/ships is very dangerous one to invoke... the explanation is terlalu besar just now, but believe me - take care!! JarrahTree 01:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * then part (sub-class) of water transport should be better I guess? :| (poker face) Chongkian (talk) 01:40, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Lichtenstein AfC
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PROPERNAME
Hi. You recently moved Kinsale Road power station to Kinsale Road Power Station and Aghada power station to Aghada Power Station. With a note that each represents the WP:PROPERNAME of the subject (and hence capitalisation is required). Can I ask please what you relied upon for these moves? The sources in the article do not seem to suggest that, for example, "Aghada Power Station" (capital "P", capital "S") is the proper name of the subject? The ESB Group (the owners of the facility) seem to refer to it variously as "Aghada Generating Station" or "Aghada Combined Cycle Power Station". The latter, in particular, not being a COMMONNAME. While, to my mind, Aghada power station (as it was) is a COMMONNAME, the capitalised version Aghada Power Station (as you propose) doesn't appear to be its PROPERNAME. What thinking/sources prompted these moves please? Absent sources which suggest or confirm that the subject's PROPERNAME is "Aghada Power Station", can the move be supported? Guliolopez (talk) 15:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. Me again. Absent a response on the above (and rationale or sources confirming that these are the proper names for the subjects), I have restored the original article names. I have done the same to Carrigadrohid hydroelectric power station. These restorations are in keeping with the guidelines on dealing with undiscussed moves (which provides that "If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move"). Personally I don't think that the proposed titles represent proper names. Certainly not to the extent that they override WP:COMMONNAME or the "proper name" exception to WP:NCCPT. If you feel strongly, that they are the proper names, please open related threads (ideally with references to support your position) as expected by WP:RM. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 19:28, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the Maldives
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Request
Hello.

In the protected Stepanakert article, can you add these paragraphs at the bottom of the "Control by Azerbaijan" section?

« In the following months, Azerbaijani authorities dismantled monuments symbolizing Artsakh, including the Giant Cross and the Eagle Monument, and statues of prominent Armenians in the city, among them, Stepan Shahumyan, after whom Stepanakert is named, Charles Aznavour and Alexander Myasnikyan.

In early March 2024, Azerbaijani authorities demolished the National Assembly of Artsakh Building and the Artsakh Freedom Fighters Union Building. »

Yours sincerely, 31.200.23.71 (talk) 20:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Palestine
Hi. Please mind the interest of the user, if nothing else. How does it serve the user to read that X or Y is in the State of Palestine rather than in Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories? Most people never went there, have no idea about actual local conditions. Your version lets them believe there is a State of Palestine, with airports and visas, and if you want to get to place X, say, the Inn of the Good Samaritan museum, you take a taxi with a license from the State of Palestine, drive on roads policed by officers from the State of Palestine, pay the entry fee with money issued by the State of Palestine, read signs in Arabic written by Palestinian archaeologists and museographers and so forth. None of that is the case, zero, zilch. Pie in the sky. If you're an activist, it's counterproductive to state the goal of the struggle has been reached when that's clearly NOT the case. If you are a Wiki editor, you must at the very least make the distinction between "contested de jure status" and "hardly contested de facto status". There's no way of looking at this type of edit and find it to be useful, either to the user (Wiki's reason to exist) or to the "cause" - other than by the "wag the dog by its tail" activistic approach, which is highly challangeable, weak and, as I wrote, counterproductive. Please, don't answer to me, just take a minute and think it over: whom did I help? Cheers, Arminden (talk) 07:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Why remove portals from category pages?
Hi! Are these portal removals intentional? If yes, then why? 2001:14BA:9C94:9A00:20C5:86C9:6B40:AD5D (talk) 23:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

WP:CATDEF and WikiProject templates
Hi. I've noticed for some time that you've been using the edit summary "add other related wikiproject per WP:CATDEF" when adding WikiProject tempaltes to category talk pages. This isn't quite right, as WP:CATDEF is about categorizing articles and has nothing to do with WikiProjects, and your edit summary may confuse other users. The rationale for tagging a category with a WikiProject would be the project scope for that individual WikiProject. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:34, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for noticing the detail. After I've read, yes I guess you are right. If that's the case, any idea on what is more appropriate Manual of Style rule (MoS) for me to add into the edit summary? Chongkian (talk) 12:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this will do WP:PROJSCOPE. Well, some of MoS are overlapping or redundant to each other. Chongkian (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think WP:PROJSCOPE would be more relevant for the edit summaries. And yeah, the various shortcuts can be difficult to keep track of (I didn't actually know of WP:PROJSCOPE before; nice work locating it). --Paul_012 (talk) 02:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

note re wikiproject efforts and updates
hi. thanks for all your work and efforts, in updating the directory of wikiprojects! I am a coordinator at WikProject History. feel free to express any thoughts or input on this, or on any topics in general. just wanted to drop by and make contact. thanks! Sm8900 (talk) 15:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Request
Hello. I am User:Ksmuthukrishnan [] from Ipoh, Perak. I have problems adding Template:KL bus code to Tamil wikipedia articles. (https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/co6k). How to add this template in Tamil version. Please help. My contribution list: https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/ta.wikipedia.org/Ksmuthukrishnan?limit=1000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksmuthukrishnan (talk • contribs) 13:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1634 establishments in Taiwan


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1630s establishments in Taiwan


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wow
where in earth else could it be? quite concerned that it seems a valid way to do it... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perth_Mosque&oldid=1224996245 - the notion of short descriptions is to keep them short, and to add the country name? with a state with the country name in it? Keep up the good work, but... JarrahTree 11:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Seyit-Settar Mosque
Manual linking to Commons is no longer required: it is linked automatically and shown on the left sidebar of the article, if it is in wikidata.- Altenmann >talk 20:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Short descriptions
Hello, did you mean to add the short description "Mosque in Kyoto, Japan" to eg Ryozen Museum of History and Kyoto Museum for World Peace ? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 08:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)