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Your submission at Articles for creation: Come into My Cellar (July 18)
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 * Dear Jovanmilic97, thank you for flagging this. There was an issue with the citation style and the external link, which directed to a 'not found' page. I believe this is now fixed and the source is reliabl and secondary. As for the indpendent, this is not possible, as the article is a plot summary, as done for other stories in S Is for Space. Happy to fix any other issues. Thanks for your help. CorradoNai (talk) 06:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Come into My Cellar (July 19)
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Atlantic306 (talk) 23:39, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Atlantic306, thank you for the feedback. I have now added a reception section, based on some reviews I've found online; hovewer, being blogs, I am not sure they qualify as realible sources. Note that I have not referenced them individually to avoid a "A said this", "B said that" format, but rather tried to find a consensus formulation. I also wonder, why is a reception section necessary? I understand it is useful, but is it needed for articles on short stories? This is a steep learning curve. Thanks for the help. CorradoNai (talk) 09:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Reviews help articles to pass WP:GNG but they need to be WP:Reliable sources regards Atlantic306 (talk) 20:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Atlantic306 et al., I've looked for reviews categorized as reliable sources, didn't find any! Can we consider this story summary as worthy of an own page based on WP:NB, in particular based on point 3 (having the story being adapted for at least two short films) and point 5 (Ray Bradbury being a very influential fiction and short story writer)? There are other short stories in S is for Space which have an own page. I am not claiming this will be the most important entry on Wikipedia, but it might be of interest for people interested in the synopsis and adaptations of 'Come into My Cellar'. PS I have deleted the reception based on the blog entry CorradoNai (talk) 10:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, to be approved it needs extra references. Have you tried searching JSTOR for academic papers that are about it or include consideration of it ? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, it was not easy but I found a thesis discussing the story, which is now referenced in the article (https://www.academia.edu/38147146/FANTASTIC_AND_SCIENCE_FICTIONAL_ELEMENTS_IN_RAY_BRADBURYS_STORIES.pdf). Is that enough? CorradoNai (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * hi, another good reference would be needed for me to publish, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * hi, another good reference would be needed for me to publish, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Found another one! It's actually in German, and not totally sure if that's good enough. What do you think? CorradoNai (talk) 15:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Are there any urls for them ? Atlantic306 (talk) 16:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, yepp. I'v added on the Reception section. CorradoNai (talk) 05:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Come into My Cellar (July 21)
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 * Ok, I will take a look if I want other reviews, thanks CorradoNai (talk) 15:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Come into My Cellar has been accepted
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Just FYI
Hi Corrado: Just because I know you're at least borderline interested... ;) Feel free to pass the link along to whoever else you think might be too! MeegsC (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks User:MeegsC and sorry for the belated answer, I was on holiday. I am DEFINITELY intrsted, just a bit slow in getting the nuts and bolts of how to edit Wikipedia! Cheers, Corrado CorradoNai (talk) 06:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Corrado: We had three lichen articles on Wikipedia's front page this month! Doing our bit to get fungi out in front of the general public. ;)

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 * Awesome! I really like the glossary! CorradoNai (talk) 05:31, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Fungi in Art has been accepted
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Thanks! That was fast CorradoNai (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

FYI
Just so you're aware (since s/he didn't even bother to inform you himself/herself), has submitted your new article to WP:GAN. That's really not on! The instructions right on the nomination page say "Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article must consult regular editors of the article on the article talk page prior to a nomination." Clearly, s/he didn't bother to read that! MeegsC (talk) 21:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks MeegsC for your comment. But I thought it was a good thing for it to be nominated as GA? Or what am I missing? CorradoNai (talk) 21:32, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * typically it's the editor that has done the work that gets to submit it for GA. After all, you have the sources and can answer any questions that get raised during the GA process! And it's nice for YOU to be recognised for your work, rather than somebody who hasn't contributed anything! Other articles this user has submitted are getting dinged because they know nothing about the subjects they're submitting and can't update the articles as requested. MeegsC (talk) 21:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I see, thank you for pointing this out MeegsC, I was totally unaware. So it would look like as though submitting for GAN s/he gets the credit for creating a GA? If so a bit dodgy, especially as as you mention, there might be questions asked during the review process CorradoNai (talk) 21:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * , there will definitely be questions. There always are with a good review! And the nominator needs to have the time, patience and resources (i.e. references) to bolster the article where it needs bolstering. Your article is off to a great start, but it definitely needs some tidying before it's going to pass muster at GA. And should have realised that right away rather than trying to get credit for it! MeegsC (talk) 23:41, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot MeegsC. So while we thank User:PichemistPichemist for moving the article in the mainspace and suggesting it could qualify as a GA, I think the question now is how to make sure I become the nominator and take care of the steps and any follows-up which results? Thanks! CorradoNai (talk) 03:53, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I apologize for my lack of foresight as I already explained on my talk page. Signed, Pichemist ( Contribs &#124; Talk ) 08:23, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Fungi in Art
Hi Corrado: Yes, I'd be happy to help review the article! As you say, it is definitely a monster. ;) But a really cool subject and you've done some great work here. A few quick things to get you started: Great start! MeegsC (talk) 00:09, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The lede is far too long. It should be 3–4 paragraphs at most, summarising what the main body of the article will cover in more detail. Don't get bogged down in specifics here.
 * The picture placement needs to be fixed so that the pictures don't interfere with the table of contents. Right now, the TOC is being pushed to the centre of the screen.
 * Never include external links in the body of the article. If they're appropriate, they can be included in an "External links" section at the foot of the article.
 * Footnotes should always be in numerical order, if you have more than one at the end of a phrase or sentence.
 * You should only wikilink to an article once. Right now, for example, you link to lichen nearly a dozen times! ;) The link should always be at the first instance of the word.
 * Don't go into great depth about things that aren't DIRECTLY about fungi in art. For instance, in the section on "Mycelia or hyphae in art", you spend three paragraphs explaining in great detail what mycelia and hyphae are, and what functions they serve in fungi. This level of detail doesn't belong in this article; that's what your wikilinks to the relevant articles are for. Readers can click through to learn more about those structures if they're interested. What they want to read about in THIS article is how they're used in art. There's quite a bit of pruning along these lines that can be done throughout the article.
 * Those choppy little 1–2 sentence paragraphs should be combined where possible. Right now, there are some pretty bitty sections.
 * I'll keep an eye on your progress and will provide more detailed suggestions in a few days.


 * Thanks a lot MeegsC, this is very helpful! I will get down to it, starting with easier and orking my way through. Again, many thanks for the help! CorradoNai (talk) 03:55, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Corrado: Looks like you're off to a flying start! A few more things for your list:
 * The lede shouldn't need any footnotes; everything you're saying here should be repeated (and expanded upon) in the main body of the article, and that's where the footnotes should go.
 * Every paragraph should have at least one citation, which should go at the end of the paragraph. If there's only one citation, it needs to cover the material for the entire paragraph.
 * Don't repeat words in headers. If you're in a section called "Mushrooms in art", don't then repeat that by saying "Mushrooms in fiction" in a subsection. Just say "In fiction". (The music section is guilty of this too.)
 * In the "access-date" parameters for the references, spell out the month. Does "2022-12-06" mean 6 December 2022 or 12 June 2022? It's obvious now, since this is a new article, but it won't be so obvious in 10 years – particularly considering that readers will be from a multitude of countries, which have different ways of parsing dates. Help them out!
 * MeegsC (talk) 09:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Corrado: It doesn't look like I was clear in my comment about citations. Don't put ALL of the citations for a paragraph at the end of the paragraph. They should go immediately after the relevant sentence. But the final sentence in each paragraph always needs a citation. If that (single) citation covers the whole paragraph, then you only need to put it once. Basically, you're trying to make it easier for readers to verify that the information they're reading is correct. Let me know if this isn't clear! MeegsC (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks MeegsC, it seems I am aobut to learn how to revert edits ;-) And by the way, thanks SO MUCH for your help in making me a better Wikipedia editor. Cheers! CorradoNai (talk) 07:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ouch! When I click on 'undo,' it says: 'The edit could not be undone because it does not exist or was deleted.' Do you know what could be the reason User:MeegsC? Or should I do manually (hopefully not!)? Thanks, Corrado CorradoNai (talk) 07:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ouch indeed! And I'm sorry that it was my unclarity that caused this problem. :/ The reason an edit can't be undone is because another edit has been done in the meantime that also touches some of the same changed bits. Once that's happened, you can't go back. To be honest, it's probably better to do things in small chunks (i.e. a paragraph or a section at a time) rather than try to update the whole article at once. For one thing, that means there's less of a chance of an edit conflict if some other editor makes a change while you're doing the same! I'll "fix" one of the paragraphs where the citations were moved, and show you how I did it. Give me a few hours, as I have some other work I should be doing first! ;) MeegsC (talk) 10:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You are a legend. No hurry! CorradoNai (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi MeegsC, while I am still working at fixing the month format of the references, I think I took over all the rest. Some citation format, paragraph-wise, might still be a bit off. It has to do with transclusion (I cannot modify that withough going at the source), or because a reference is actually down in the text (for example, the first paragraph of 'Mushrooms in art' has no references, as it contains 'common' knowledge, or things explained in the article as a whole). While I will keep working on the page on and off, is there anything else that can be done to improve the page at this point? Also, I don't want to sound arrogant, but can we consider nominating the page to be mid-rather than low-importance? I believe it might be appropriate given the many people working on fungi and the arts, the historical and cultural significance, and the potential for sustainalbe solutions. Many thanks for helping me become a better editor! ~ CorradoNai (talk) 11:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Corrado: You're getting there! There are still a lot of unreferenced paragraphs (any paragraph not in the lede needs at least one ref). "Common knowledge" won't be common knowledge to everyone – particularly people not as involved with fungi as you are! ;) And there are still a number of external links in the middle of the article. As for the importance level, you'll need to ask someone at the WikiProject Fungi about that; as a lichen specialist, I don't know what they consider important for their project! MeegsC (talk) 12:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, MeegsC. I feel like I've taken over most of you suggestions, for which I am grateful. Can we move this project to the next staeg (nominate for B-level)? Can you guide me on how to do that? CorradoNai (talk) 05:12, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi . Somebody in the WP:FUNGI group would be the one to ask about that; they have their own requirements. Or you could just submit it for GA, and see how it goes. Good luck! MeegsC (talk) 03:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, MeegsC. Always appreciated! CorradoNai (talk) 07:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Fungi in art
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 * That's wonderful, thanks! Looking forward to the feedback and thank you for your work. CorradoNai (talk) 10:07, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fungi in art
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Why do you say ups and not oops?
Why do you say ups and not oops? Born25121642 (talk) 11:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Because I am sllightly dislexic? Don't know, probably becuase English is not my native language. Saw your edits in the section on Counterculture, thanks a lot. CorradoNai (talk) 11:34, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ok, thank you too. Born25121642 (talk) 12:17, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

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Fungi in art
Greetings, CorradoNai, I'm Netherzone, an editor who has been contributing to WP for some time now primarily focusing on Visual art, and an emphasis on environmental and ecological art as well as contemporary Indigenous artists. I also have an interest in hot springs, as you can see from my user page. While I am not an expert in fungi, it certainly is interest of mine (I have attended the Telluride Mushroom Festival a couple times, attended cultivation and identification workshops, and gone on multiple forays in various places in the Northern hemisphere.) I created the articles on the mycologists/mushroom enthusiasts Gary Lincoff, Laura Guzmán Dávalos and Eugenia Bone. I'd like to help out with improving the article Fungi in art. Netherzone (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot, Netherzone, I appreciate your message. Very much appreciated would be any help towards removing the maintenance templates messages. I thought I have addressed most points, although I recognize there is still room for much improvement. I think the strenght of this page is, beside the fact that it didn't exist before but information was scattered as many subpages on Wikipedia, its structure - presenting fungi in art based on fungal form and artform - so that more examples can be just added. I am still learning (both about editing Wikipedia and about the subject) and I will keep working on this page. It's just that I am very busy at the moment (as everyone is, I am sure) and have slightly other priorities. Ping me if you realize while working on this that there is anything specific I can help with. Again, I appreciate you. CorradoNai (talk) 06:51, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I've left some feedback on the article talk page. Netherzone (talk) 17:25, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Fungi in art: British or American English?
Hi Corrado! I was copyediting this article recently and noticed it uses spelling from both dialects. Since there isn’t a strong consensus on the issue, I thought I’d pose this question here and not on the article talk page. I think the readability and consistency of the article might be improved by using only British English, since that is what I saw used the most. I’d be happy to make the changes myself if that is alright. Let me know! Blackberrybee (talk) 15:02, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


 * That's wonderful Blackberrybee, thanks! Indeed I was aiming for UK spelling although I am not a native speaker and might have made mistakes. Thanks a lot for helping imrpoving this page! CorradoNai (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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