User talk:Dank/Archive 6

Archive of User talk:Dank/Apr
These are messages for every speedy deletion I declined this month through the 25th. I left talkback notices for most of the taggers in the first half of the month. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Holding Pen
For these articles, I left a message on the article creator's talk page, and either moved the article to the talk page of their sandbox, or temporarily declined the speedy deletion for a few days, to give them a chance to read WP:FIRST and improve the article:


 * Prakash Narain Agarwala: Article isn't ready yet for mainspace, so I moved it to User talk:Leavesofgrass1/Sandbox. Please read WP:Your first article and I'll check on your progress in a few days. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Cmalbright/Sandbox: userfied per my talk page, for a few days. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Furious5 userfied to User:KevinYoungX/Sandbox. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Electrocution Festival: Declined db-spam, moved to creator's sandbox (User:Rosegoddesss/Sandbox) since they asked for more time, added noindex, left msg on talk page. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Update: all of these now deleted. Agreed with Fabrictramp that userfication usually doesn't work. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 15:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

P2Pspot
Taking to AfD. Declining db-spam. The first 50 of 1200 Google hits didn't establish notability; nothing on news.google.com; a few hits on Google's blog search FWIW. I would have db-web'd it if I had had the patience to skim all 1200 Google hits, but I didn't. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Changes have been made to the P2Pspot page. Can I please borrow your expertise to verify the page is Wiki appropriate? -Webbpage —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webbpage (talk • contribs) 18:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The way the discussion is going at Articles for deletion/P2Pspot, it looks like the page will be deleted at or before the end of the 5-day discussion, because there are no reliable sources to establish notability. See if you can find some discussion of this product in major newspaper, magazines or books.  Some web links are considered reliable for some purposes, but that's trickier. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Independence Visitor Center
Declining db-spam. I deleted the one paragraph with a promotional tone, added endsections, and found references establishing notability. Also, there are 4 things to do if you're going to tag articles for speedy deletion; the easiest approach is to use WP:TWINKLE, which does them all at once. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Explore Kent
This was created by an s.p.a. with a highly suspicious name, User:Kentexplorer, whose sole purpose seems to be to advertise this program and the allure of Kent. I believe he/she probably works for Explore Kent. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I follow that, it's just that I don't see evidence that there's any organization called "Explore Kent"; this seems to be the Kent County Council picking a snappy slogan, and maybe hiring someone to do a website. Would AfD be okay with you?  I know you "outrank" me at CSD by a mile, but I think discussion might help, for my education at least. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as you do the AfD paperwork, go ahead. And I don't think that "rank" is a meaningful concept among we wielders of the Mop-and-Bucket. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Dumez Bridge
As a cultural sensitivity thing, I'm really uncomfortable db-spamming Iraqi public works projects. Let's discuss at AfD. 3 admins who are very active in CSD work have all edited the article previously, and none of them tagged it for speedy deletion. There are 3 companies mentioned in this article, and it's certainly possible that the intent was promotional, but none of those 3 companies get more than one sentence of mention. Also, there are 4 things to do if you're going to tag articles for speedy deletion; the easiest approach is to use WP:TWINKLE, which does them all at once. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. My reaction was prompted by the way I found it, which was via the Contributions of a new user (who created the Dumez Bridge article) who put the bio of one of the bridge's engineers into WP:BLP. Plus mentioning the engineers and all those pictures, it just felt a bit spammy. I wasn't entirely sure it should be CSD'd but I thought tagging it was a very easy way to get someone else to consider the issue, as I had to go out. (Well, it worked...) BTW I'm giving twinkle a go, thanks. Rd232 talk 20:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it did work, and I think your reasoning was pretty good. But if you ever decide to run for admin, people tend to look very closely at speedy deletion tagging, since it's very easy to lose new contributors with a quick deletion and accusation of "blatant advertising". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Instyler
Declining db-spam, taking to AfD. When there's a long list of "reports" in reliable sources, but the marketing campaign for the product screams "promotional", I'd rather not have one person (including me) making the call, I'd rather see all the arguments first. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

CyberBunker
Declining db-spam; article has been around for more than 3 years, edited by many admins active in CSD. If it's that bad, someone would have noticed. Feel free to revert to an earlier version or take it to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Tombras Group
Company is listed in Hoover's, and there are many awards listed in the references. I agree with you that companies in the business of promotion deserve a hard look, but the tone doesn't seem to merit a speedy deletion as db-spam to me. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The article can still be spammy even if the company is listed in Hoover's and has all those awards - they speak to notability, not spaminess. – ukexpat (talk) 02:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to AfD it, I'll keep it watchlisted, and maybe I'll learn something. Db-spam is a hard call. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. – ukexpat (talk) 13:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good work. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Lighting Design Software
Declining db-spam; if the article is promoting some company, I can't tell which one, and the creator's contribs don't look like the contribs of a spammer. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Trikr
Declining db-spam, taking to AfD; tone seems descriptive rather than promotional, and I can't db-notability (A7) software (although there's a current discussion at WT:CSD on this). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Uconnect phone
Declining db-spam, taking to AfD, this is a judgment call. This is an option on every "2004 model year or newer Chrysler, Jeep, or Dodge", meaning that there may be a lot of owners out there who'd like to see an article about it, although the article as written is too promotional. Most hits on "uconnect" aren't referring to this product. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Reliped at the AFD --DFS454 (talk) 16:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your research. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Pen on fire
Declining db-spam; tone not overly promotional, and notability is not a problem. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

John F. Kennedy International School
Declining db-spam, taking to AfD. I will vote for db-spam at AfD, but there's a lot of support for keeping schools whenever possible. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

SANE (charity)
Declining db-spam for this 3-year old article. Reverting to an earlier version is fine, AfD is fine, but it's rare that no one will tag an overly promotional article for 3 years, and I don't believe the version at the beginning of Dec 30 was promotional enough to merit db-spam. I agree that the edits of Dec 30 by User:SANEcomms were overly promotional, and I've just reverted all but one of their edits to this article and blocked them per spamusernameblock. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC) tweak 15:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

On Tour in Brazil
Declining db-context; it's an album, and all the context is in the infobox. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Odd, the infobox didn't show up for me last time; my bad R3ap3R.inc (talk) 14:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Jack Horner (horse)
Declining db-context; please don't use this tag 2 minutes after the article was created. Taking to AfD; no apparent notability. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow-up note: rather than simply declining, I'm going to try prodding some of these along the lines of this discussion. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 14:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Little Flower Public School
Declining db-spam speedy deletion; consensus seems to be against db-spamming high schools. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Artemide
Declining db-spam; doesn't seem unduly promotional to me, and the article has had many editors. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Roel Dijkstra
Declining db-spam. The tone didn't seem promotional to me, and the comic strip is discontinued. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Accademia Italiana di Lingua
Declining db-spam. DGG did a lot of work on this, the subject seems notable, and the tone seems mostly okay to me. Feel free to edit any sentences that seem promotional. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the follow up on this. It looked like it fit the criteria to me, but any article that can be saved from that, should be. RevZoe (talk) 02:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your speedy tagging work. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

University of Washington School of Dentistry
Declining db-context deletion because of the extra material added after the page was tagged. There's some disagreement over how fast to apply a db-context tag, and we're working on it; check WP:CSD in a week or so and see if there's any news. This article was tagged 8 minutes after creation, which is a problem at least for people interested in adminship, because many voters at WP:RFA see quick db-context, db-empty and db-nonsense tags as BITEy. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Dan bit of a mistake time wise on my behalf regarding these articles I thought it was an hour and 8 minutes that had elapsed due to GMT on my PC as you can see here when I explained my actions to the article creator. I am aware of the time difference now and wont make same mistake and I will watch above discussion. BigDunc  Talk 10:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My preference would be to change the db-context messages so that they are clear about giving the creators a little time to get started; then taggers wouldn't get accused of being bitey at RFA. I'll make the argument at WT:CSD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow-up note: rather than simply declining, I'm going to try prodding some of these along the lines of this discussion. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 14:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

List of highest grossing concert tours
Declining db-context. db-spam, db-attack and db-copyvio are generally considered urgent; the other speedy tags aren't, and many people consider a db-context tag 2 minutes after article creation to be BITEy. There's some disagreement over how fast to apply a db-context tag, and we're working on it; check WP:CSD in a week or so and see if there's any news. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:01, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow-up note: rather than simply declining, I'm going to try prodding some of these along the lines of this discussion. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 14:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Jerstad Agerholm Middle School
Declining db-context deletion. db-context means that we can't figure out what the article is about; this article is about a school, and it looks okay now. Also, a lot of people who vote at AfD in articles about schools feel strongly about keeping secondary schools even when no sources are found. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Tamara Mellon
Declining db-spam; the article has been around a long time with many good editors. If the current version is too promotional, revert to the last version that seems okay. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Data.gov
Declining speedy deletion as db-inc. Although the site doesn't go live until next month, it's being widely written about; check the sources. For instance, from broadcast.oreilly.com: "What Obama's Data.gov initiative will do is both simple in concept and stunning in implication. It is data housekeeping." - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Samantha Thavasa
Declining db-spam deletion; article needs references, but article has been here for over a year, and I'm getting a ton of ghits from reliable sources. Feel free to edit the article for tone, but the article seems roughly as promotional as every other article about fashion, to me. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. I didn't realize that the acceptable level of promotional-ism (is that a word?) varied depending on the topic Dougofborg (talk) 19:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking that, if a new article for a brand of beer lists supermodels who drink it, that's promotional. But supermodels who are associated with handbags seem okay to me in an article about handbags. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Transport Trust
Hi Dank55: based on the contributor's other edits today, it sure looks like spamming--they've created four articles promoting this agency, all with the same promotional text. Thanks, JNW (talk) 15:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I had to run and wanted to grab that out of the db-spam queue so that I'd have time to think about it ... I should have said that in the edit summary. People sometimes confuse db-spam-worthy promotionalism with completely appropriate promotionalism ... for instance, descriptions of initiatives by an elected government enjoying popular support, or a neutral description of something promotional that someone else is doing.  I'll go look now.  Thanks for being gentle :) - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:36, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It behooves me to be civil--even when a series of edits seems smeared with the fingerprints of promotion, there may be buried therein a kernel of notable content. Thanks for taking the time. JNW (talk) 16:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. What I want to do here is speedy them all, but move the content into the creator's userspace, noindex them, and have a chat.  I think we should have at least one article on the subject, but I can't see a full paragraph to salvage that would allow me to avoid db-spamming them now. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed on all counts. If there are sources to support significance of the Transport Trust, something could be salvaged. Cheers, JNW (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Disaster Risk Management in East Asia
Declining db-copyvio; deleted the copyvio sentences. The talk page mentions a previous AfD discussion. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Wayzata west middle school
Declining db-context: context is clear, and we don't usually speedy secondary schools (unless attack, spam or copyvio). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Nadja Uhl
Declining db-copyvio; I didn't see the copyright violation at that imdb page. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dank55 - Thanks for the comments - I agree it's not a direct cut and paste - but the Filmography section is clearly taken from IMDB with the four periods (....) and all. JCutter (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Even in the filmography, some of the words weren't the same (flight attendant for stewardess). The question is whether we're making enough of an effort to satisfy DMCA and other copyright laws; I have heard that small changes in a list of names and roles is sufficient.  Thanks for your speedy tagging work. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Infrared night vision cameras
Declining db-spam deletion, since no product or company is mentioned, but prodding for the consistently how-to and promotional tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Association François-Xavier Bagnoud
Declining db-spam deletion; article has been around a long time, edited by many people active in deletion work. Feel free to edit for tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Bangalore Metropolitan Transport Corporation
Removing the copyvio material; declining db-copyvio deletion since we're getting some good discussion on the talk page. There's hope for a neutral article, eventually, about this clearly notable public transportation system. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I nominated the article for deletion because the copyvio amounted to almost the entire article - so removing it would have almost resulted in blanking the page - as is evident now. In any case, I guess we'll have to start afresh. Thanks for taking the trouble, though. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 11:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Good call. I'm hoping that the discussion I saw means that we'll eventually get a neutral, non-copyvio article out of this, but we'll see. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

ARGUS Software
Declining db-spam deletion; article has a very long history with lots of discussion. Feel free to revert edits or edit for tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Millechili
Declining db-copyvio deletion; a judgment call, but I think we can get away with tagging this as a close paraphrase instead. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You have got to be kidding. Apart from a couple of words it's a complete copy. – ukexpat (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ugh you're right, the words were rearranged but most of them are there. Okay, I've rewritten to avoid the copyvio. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Womenomics
Okay, I've added a ref to the other good refs, and I think it's good enough to survive now. I'm declining the db-spam deletion. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help... any good editorial ideas on how to not sound so promotional? Are there specific phrases I've used or ideas I've focused on too strongly, things I should avoid in future writing or try to clean up on this page? Thanks again! Jocelynp85 (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Check with the folks at WT:BOOKS, I think they'll steer you right, and if they don't, come back here. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

TuneUp Utilities
Your db-spam tag was exactly right, the article was too promotional, but I got a lot of good ghits, so I rewrote the article to tone it down, and added a request for refs. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 04:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Anantara Solutions
Declining db-spam because article has a long history. Feel free to revert to a previous version if the current version is too promotional. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * IMHO, it doesn't seem like the article has progressed a lot since its [ previous nomination], but if you think it's worth keeping, I'll respect that decision. —Ms2ger (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Asking about this at WT:CSD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Americas United Bank
I think we can save this one; I've declined the db-spam deletion. I added a couple of references to the article from WP:Reliable sources. It can be hard to guess which businesses are likely to be written about in newspapers and magazines. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. On my end, I will work on adding more reference and documentation information to make the entry stronger.Belladawn (talk) 18:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Please let me know if the article is tagged for deletion again; I think it's probably safe now. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Integrated Computer Solutions
Declining db-spam deletion, fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Mariparisi
Declining speedy deletion, adding. I disagree that it's strictly promotional; there are negatives as well. It would be better in a subdir, but this is an acceptable start on an eventual article. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Bizedgal
Declining db-spam speedy; I don't think this was promoting a person or business. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

NBA Live 09
Declining db-spam deletion, fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore." - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Southern Progress Corporation
Declining db-spam. Which sentences are promotional? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe it just struck me that way because the article doesn't have much meat yet, and is unreferenced. Compare to the article on its parent company.  How about if we just go for unreferenced? Cheers. --SV Resolution(Talk) 18:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, an unreferenced tag would be fine. I happen to know that they are a very large publisher of magazines that was bought by Time Inc, but since they're in the publishing business, you'd think the creator (who claims to be in their town) could find a reference or two! - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was on a bit of a patrolling adventure, my first attempt at helping with that backlog. Could you tell?  I applied a few WP:Speedys, and all were declined.  So I re-read WP:Speedy.  Thanks for the education. --SV Resolution(Talk) 14:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping out. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wildwater Rafting Ltd.
Declining db-spam: please don't tag an article for db-spam deletion when an admin (User:SoWhy) already declined the db-spam deletion. If you disagree, discuss it with the admin. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * O. But it could at least be improved...? Valerian456 Hush,  Rush 19:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. When SoWhy declined the speedy deletion, he wasn't saying that was a great article, he was saying he was hopeful that it would eventually be something worth keeping ... and there are lots of ways to make that happen.  Sometimes you can get the creator to help, sometimes someone else will help ... sometimes it doesn't get any better, and it eventually gets prodded or goes to WP:AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Readergirlz
I just declined db-spam speedy on this one yesterday. Like most admins, I'd prefer that you discuss it with me first before you tag it if I've already declined the speedy. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see Articles for deletion/Readergirlz. Thank you.    — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 00:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Some editors will read "discuss with me before you tag if I declined the previous speedy" as "You can't cross me, I'm an admin!" I don't mean that at all; I'm just trying to make sure communication stays open at CSD.  You're welcome to take any article to AfD after I decline a speedy if you think it should be deleted; you're also welcome to make a case that it should have been speedied.  Sometimes I'm wrong. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

User:KaSh1684/TReXGlobal.com
Declining speedy deletion, adding noindex, removing most external links per several of the Apr 14 discussions at WP:MfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC) tweaked to add date

International British School of Bucharest
(From Apr 13): Also Hartlepool Sixth Form College. I almost always decline db-spam for upper secondary (ages 14 and older) schools; adding these to WP:WPSCH's todo list. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Farouk Gaafar
Declining db-copvio; removing all the copyright violation I can find. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Researchassis1/Sandbox

 * Also User:Gutsalo/Corporate Suites, User:Nricardo/ADERANT and User:Vyomnagrani/eInfochips, but you know about those. I took 4 of the ones you tagged to WP:MfD yesterday; so far, they're leaning on average towards "keep", but we'll see. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also User:Septagram/tigroup: update on this one that you tagged two days ago: I declined based on what I'm seeing at WP:MfD because it's in a subdirectory and it seems to be a well-established editor, not a spammer; I added noindex. You blanked it, the editor restored and removed the noindex, and that was apparently enough for User:Orangemike to speedy it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also see AfD discussion for Chipsticks. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Park Place Productions: declining db-spam deletion; this is about 1993, so I don't see that this is promoting something now. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Stuart Sherman (artist)
Apr 13: I declined the db-copyvio because the creator did some rewriting. I added references and marked the page as a close paraphrase. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

String ribbon
Declining db-spam deletion since it fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore" (see templated warning on the page). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Zscaler
Declining db-spam deletion; the article has not gotten any worse since the "keep" decision at AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Bologna sandwich card games
Apr 10: Declining db-nonsense; taking to AfD in part to get a feel for consensus regarding G1 and A1, but also because AfD seems appropriate. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Serart
Apr 10: Declining G7 deletion; User:TheJazzDalek has also edited this template. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Anukul Gita
Declining db-spam since the article has been around 3.5 years ... which is really surprising, given the tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

International SOS
Declining db-spam deletion; fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Burlodge
Declining db-spam deletion; article has been around a long time, edited by many people active in deletion work. Feel free to edit for tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I didn't think so from the history, it looked like it had only really substantively been edited by one person, the spammer. Anyway, it's been deleted so presumably a different administrator has taken a different view. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 04:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Per comment from the deleting admin on my talk page, taking to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Northrise University
Declined db-spam; I reverted to a less promotional version. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

MoneyStrands
(Apr 9) Declining db-spam; taking to AfD. The yahoo.com ref is okay, the others are iffy, and this is a new service, possibly not in full operation. Also, tone is too promotional. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Public Relations Student Society of America
(Apr 9) Declining db-spam because I see a lot of potentially useful Google hits; they seem to be what they say they are. But removing the material that has the wrong tone for Wikipedia. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Hot Hail Comics
(Apr 9) Declining speedy per article talk page; taking to AfD and notifying WT:COMICS. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Mobiforge
(Apr 9) Declining db-spam deletion, taking to AfD. There are lots of ghits for mobiforge and dotmobi ... so many that it's very hard to find evidence of RSs, but I believe they're there. Promotional tone, but per article talk page, creator is willing to work with us. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Research Edge, LLC
(Apr 9) Declining speedy because the refs are reliable, but getting rid of about half of the material that had tone not suitable for an encyclopedia. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Stopdv/sandbox
(On author's talk page:) Work with me here. The page mentioned above was nominated for deletion as "promotional"; but I think it will be okay if you keep working on it. I deleted the second section because we're interested in "just the facts". Also, please choose another username; while I was looking through Google hits (which seem to indicate notability for your organization), I saw relevant text from stopdv.org, so our username policy won't allow the username "stopdv" (a username can't promote or represent an organization or website). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Benton's Smoky Mountain Country Hams
Declining db-spam; fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore". Contacting tagger. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Bearspaw christian school
Declining db-spam and reporting to WP:WPSCH, as with all upper secondary schools (this one is K-12), but this needs real work to survive. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

ICODA
The article has been deleted. I would welcome an article on ICODA, but it can't copy sentences from the website because that's a copyright violation, and it should describe rather than promote ICODA. It can be hard to tell the difference sometimes; I'll be happy to look at the article if you'd like to give it another shot. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

[Re-created]

["Please do not remove speedy deletion notices" message from Eeekster]

Sorry, just trying to establish something more than a stub. This is my first article, I beg your mercy... Marketchicago..


 * I've created a current copy of the article at User:Marketchicago/Sandbox in case it gets deleted again. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou.. stripping it down now... Marketchicago

Physician assistants in cardiothoracic surgery
Declining db-spam deletion; what company or person is being advertised? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * SPAM? must have clicked the wrong thing there sorry. The article needs to be deleted though. A list of duties for spam at some hospital/institution is not notable for wikipedia. Regards, FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  13:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Your call. For now, I'm just dealing with speedy cats G1 through G12. I'd rather not make the A7 call on this article - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC) tweaked 21:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Wkhatana
Declining db-spam. I get the idea; someone whose only edit is one broken link to their webpage, a webpage that talks about a logo and "coming soon", will probably eventually promote something. But this user hasn't promoted himself or a product, yet, so it's not db-spam yet. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

ChemAxon
Declining db-spam deletion; it doesn't use promotional language, it does seem notable, and the article has been around for a couple of years. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Tupelo Honey Cafe
Declining db-spam deletion; taking to AfD. The taggers split on this one, and I'd like to get feedback on notability requirements for restaurants. There are a surprising number of ghits for this one, but do restaurant reviews = notability? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Holy Family Catholic Academy
Declining db-spam deletion and PRODding. The name is a common name for schools, so it's hard to assess Google hits. Most elementary and middle schools are not considered notable on Wikipedia, and there's no assertion of notability here. Reporting to WP:WPSCH. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Candyrat records
Declining db-spam deletion; no promotional language. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Steve Reichert
In this article, I removed the long section of copyright violation I found, and declined the speedy. I left a note with the tagger to see if I missed something. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Carmen Fantasie (Waxman)
No copyright violation found, after searching for several phrases at books.google.com and generally. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Mega Bank Liga
Declining db-nonsense deletion; it's not "incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history." - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Coup de vitesse
Declining G8; page redirected to a new target. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Operation Thunderbolt (Honorverse)
Declining G8; page redirected to a new target. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Wcquidditch/wikideletionyesterday
Declining G7 because I don't think the creator intended it. This page is showing up in various deletion categories, such as WP:CSD, so odds are, admins who aren't paying attention (like me) will delete it. You might want to talk with some template people about how you can avoid putting the page into the same cats as the pages you're transcluding. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Vpac
Declined db-spam deletion; this article could just as easily have been written by a student as by someone promoting the research facility. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
Declining db-nonsense, which is only for "purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Edward des Clayes
(Apr 15) Declining db-author. db-g7 already denied twice. Asking author if he wants me to AfD it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Sanchez
(Apr 14) Declining db-copyvio; creator is rewriting. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Northern Tool and Equipment ‎
Declining db-spam, doesn't meet the requirement "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Heraeus
(Apr 10) Declining db-copyvio. Reverting to the last version that wasn't promotional and a copyright violation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Jimmie Rodgers (country singer)
‎(Apr 10) Declining db-copyvio deletion. I didn't see the copyright violation looking quickly; if anyone sees it, then delete the copyvio part, not the whole article. This article has a long history. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Chandigarh Engineering College
(Apr 9) Pulled from db-spam queue to see if WP:WPSCH people can fix it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Teldex Studio
Declining db-spam because we should have an article on Teldex. I'll edit for tone. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Memphis Soul Music
(Apr 9) Declining db-copyvio deletion, but removing the copyright violation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Psycho T. Records
(Apr 8) Removing from the db-spam queue while I ask at WT:MUSIC where to go next. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Digital Data Exchange
(Apr 8) Declining db-spam; Digital Data Exchange is a pretty big deal, and the tone of the article isn't terrible. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

BeaTunes
(Apr 7) Declining db-spam; notable software, minimal information. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Glenda Holcomb
(Apr 5) Declining db-bio because there's a claim of notability; prodding. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Joanie Bartels
(Apr 5) Declining db-copyvio, removing copyvio, taking to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Dominic Lieven
I declined the db-copyvio deletion, and removed all of the text I could find that was a copy of http://www2.lse.ac.uk/government/whosWho/profiles/dlieven@lseacuk/Home.aspx. If you can find any text I missed, please remove it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Quick-change
Declining db-spam; wrong tag. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Sonor
Declining db-spam deletion; fails "there are no non-promotional revisions available to restore". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Nnooo
Declining db-spam; deleting some promotional language and text on stuff not yet released. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Royal Dutch Shell initiatives
I may regret this, but I'm declining the db-spam deletion. Article has many references, and many editors have made small edits. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:37, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, nothing to regret. It's being considered for AfD here. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Harding Farm
Putting db-corp deletion on hold to ask the author a question: what are your sources? How do you know that an Oneida chief was buried there, for instance? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Benfleet running club
I'm declining the "speedy" deletion for now. My question to the tagger is: can you identify a person, company or ideology that's being promoted here? Couldn't this be an article written by one of the runners about their club? There's a separate question of notability that might need to be discussed at WP:AfD; see for instance the 9 hits at [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22Benfleet+running+club%22&cf=all. Google News]. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Bane (comics)
Declining db-copyvio; source is GFDL. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Morgan Ogg
Declining db-copyvio and taking to WP:CP; I appreciate the efforts of the author to make small changes, but more needs to be done to avoid copyright violation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:23, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Jamarcus Sanders
Declining db-copyvio; freebase page copied and credited Wikipedia. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:36, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Elektra Birseck Münchenstein
Declining db-corp; they say they're a large utility. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Angels Fancy Dress
Speedy deletion has already been declined. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Community matrix
Declining db-context; context is clear to mathematicians. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Jurong Medical Centre
‎Declining speedy deletion; most hospitals are notable, there's no promotional language, and the article has had the same text since August. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Jon Bakhshi (Jon B.)
Declining db-person deletion; ghits suggest notability. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:03, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

FinallySecure
Declining speedy since it's been around for a year in this form, but taking to AfD. It looks to me like the tagger has been doing good work on "computer security" articles, and I think I agree that having an article on Wikipedia that could be seen as approval of such a product without actual notability could be a bad thing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also see Discryptor at AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Miss World 2010
I left a WP:PROD message for the author: I'm declining the "speedy" deletion, but the article needs work to survive, and there's something odd going on, almost all of the first 40 hits are from Vietnamese sources, as if this is a national rather than an international pageant. Help me out here. Also see WP:FIRST for what we're looking for in articles generally. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Shramkivka
Declining db-nocontent (2 mins after article creation), contacting tagger. Opinions vary on how to best solve the problem of articles that don't have enough content, but people are generally agreed that tagging the page for speedy deletion for "no content" 2 minutes after it's created without leaving a note (other than the standard warning) for the creator is not the way to go. It might be time for a discussion of how to best handle this at WT:CSD, if you like. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Makes no real difference to me; if the page later fills out and it's considered viable, so be it. I just call 'em as I see 'em. Half  Shadow  21:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Wireless HDMI
Declining db-copyvio deletion, taking to Articles for deletion/Wireless HDMI. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

World Association for Christian Communication
Declining db-corp deletion; lots of notability evident on Google news. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Floats
Declining db-spam; article has been in this form a long time, language is not overly promotional, and similar food items have done well at WP:AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey there Dan, I was the original flagger of this page but forgot to log in. I don't particularly care how long the article has been in this form, but this article is squatting on what could be a redirect to a more useful article, and additionally, is not listed in the disambiguation page for "Float".  The thing also reads outrightly like a press release for the most part. Gushi (talk) 22:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point, I'll rename to Floats (drink) to let you create the redirect. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Western Suburbs Legal Service
I left a WP:PROD notice for the author: a 30-year legal services office might well have been mentioned in newspapers, magazines, journals or books in a way that would establish notability; that's what we need to see for this article to survive. Also see WP:FIRST for what we're looking for in your first article. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Veritas financial group
Declining db-club deletion; see for instance http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_21/b4085042677127_page_2.htm. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did see that after you declined the CSD. Thanks for following up on it.  I'll add the ref to the article in a sec.  Enjoy the evening/day.  ttonyb1 (talk) 03:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that helps. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Bubang Techron Co.
Declining db-spam deletion; language is not promotional. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Joint Air Delivery Test and Evaluation Unit
Declining db-context deletion. The article was created with the text "Joint Air Delivery Test and Evaluation Unit (JADTEU)" and the edit summary "Started to create page", and you tagged it for db-context deletion 4 minutes later. Speedy deletion tags are okay immediately after article creation if we can already tell that something is going very wrong: copyright violation, obvious advertising language, a subject that we can easily tell doesn't meet the notability requirements, an attack page, or vandalism. None of that applies to this article. Please contact the article creator and let them know they're welcome to continue work on the article, point them to WP:FIRST, and after we know what the article's about, it might help to point them to a relevant wikiproject. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:St. Elmo's Fire (band)
Declining db-talk; too soon. There's a bot that deals with talk pages of deleted pages after they're a week old; deleting the talk pages as soon as the article is deleted means the article creators might miss what's been said. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Same for Talk:Linus nilsson and Talk:Vinay Rohrra. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Talk:Lince iberico. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Puzzled??
 * Talk:Linus nilsson - A personal name with 1337? How can you believe creating Talk:Linus nilsson with just "hlinus nilsson föddes 1337 . kolckan13.37" is anything other than vanity vandalism?
 * Talk:Vinay Rohrra - Umm, a non-notable actor who used to be in a soap opera, but was so bad they were replaced by another actor. Well, OK - maybe a little too soon.  But if they were  notable why didn't the author sign up and create a proper article in the article namespace?  Astronaut (talk) 18:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * TBH, I didn't know there was a bot that did this kind of cleaning. Astronaut (talk) 18:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * PS. If you're going to remove the db-talk then be kind enough to remove my signature as well.  Thanks.  Astronaut (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See WT:CSD for when to use and not to use G8 to delete talk pages. And I don't have any authority to remove your signature from talk pages, WP:TALK strongly suggests not to alter other editors' talk page edits, so don't sign templates that are meant to be removed. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * That appears to be just a proposal to add a time delay. Is it likely to be added to the CSD G8 policy?  One question about the bot:  Does it only delete talk pages of deleted pages (ie. works on logs of deleted pages), or does it also delete talk pages that never had an article page in the first place?  Astronaut (talk) 21:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The proposal didn't pass because some participants felt that the principle was obvious enough and didn't need to be spelled out; there wasn't any serious disagreement. The guy that wrote the bot, User:MZMcBride, is on a wikibreak; I'll ask him for details when he gets back. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * There clearly isn't a widespread consensus to wait even a day. All four pages were speedily deleted under CSD G8 just 12 hours later.  Astronaut (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Ethanol Induced Non-Lamellar Phases in Phospholipids
‎Declining db-context; article was tagged 1 minute after creation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow-up note: rather than simply declining, I'm going to try prodding some of these along the lines of this discussion. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 13:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Apoena series
Declining speedy deletion for "Exact duplicate of XMobots Apoena"; changing to redirect. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Richman Chemical
Declining db-corp deletion; quick Google search suggests notability, and we can probably get help from WP:CHEMISTRY. I'll go ask. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

John Thomas (preacher)
Declining db-bio deletion request by IP; article has been edited by a lot of authors. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

TCSJOHNHUXLEY
See WP:Articles for deletion/TCSJOHNHUXLEY. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Mike Long (Sulgrave Partners)
Declining db-bio; claimed as former CEO of what is now WebMD, plus other companies. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Campus Co-operative Residence Incorporated
I'm declining the db-corp "speedy" deletion on the theory that it's been around since 1936 so someone has probably written about it, but I'm getting zero Google hits suggestive of notability. I've WP:PRODded; anyone want to have a look? [I posted this at WT:CANADA.] - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Christian Ward
Declining db-bio deletion; makes credible claims of notability. Asking for help at WP:BOOKS. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Harvey Brownstone
Declining db-bio deletion; he is or was a judge. See WP:BIO. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just a clarification from the AfD discussion: being a judge at roughly the magistrate level isn't enough, but the argument is being made that he's widely quoted as an expert in his field in the Canadian press. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 13:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Astra Film Festival
Declining db-spam deletion requested by IP; tone is promotional, but the article has been around almost 2 years with many editors. Either revert to an earlier version, or register and take it to WP:AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Ingrid Simunic
Declining db-person deletion; it's asserted that she oversees Residential Phone and Wireless Product Management at Time Warner Cable. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The Battle Of Bannockburn (single)
Declining speedy deletion, creating redirect, since material is duplicated at the target page and this title is not implausible. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Madame Medusa
Declining G8 deletion; no reason to delete the talk page when the main page exists as a redirect. Same for Talk:Penny (The Rescuers). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Diary of a Wimpy Kid: My Last Year
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diary of a Wimpy Kid: My Last Year. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Illinois high school boys basketball championship
Declining db-test; not a test page. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Stain blocking primers
Declining db-copyvio; I can't find the copied text. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for double-checking the text. When I searched "Since their introduction to the US market in 1997 (the third paragraph of the article in this version), I believed that the article was a copyvio of page four of this website. However, I've just done searches on the other text in the article and have been unable to find a copyvio source. This is a clear example &mdash; I agree with &mdash; of why you should check every copyvio tagging. Thank you for being such a careful CSD'er; other hasty admins would have deleted the article without checking the external link, which would result in all the content in this article being lost. Warm regards, Cunard (talk) 04:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support. Okay, we've got a clear consensus so far that I should check copyvio thoroughly. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 04:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

International Academy of Financial Management
See Articles for deletion/International Academy of Financial Management. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Lola / cola
Declining G8; AFC template. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

St. John Elementary School
Declining db-context; prodding. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Wentworth, Calgary
Declining db-spam requested by IP; article has been around almost 2 years, edited by many people. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Julian Myrick
Declining db-context speedy; added one reference and asked for help at WT:TENNIS. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Yana kalinina
Declining A7; the Prix de Lausanne is a big deal. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Sydney Model Railway Exhibition
Declining db-spam requested by IP; tone is not promotional; article is more than 3 years old. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Lansing Model Railroad Club
Declining A7 request by IP; article is 3 years old. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Wampanoag Tribe of Gay Head (Aquinnah) of Massachusetts
Declining speedy deletion because that's not one of the speedy criteria (R2 or R3); feel free to take this to WP:RfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Midnight in a Toy Shop
Declining db-context deletion, moving to correct name, and adding ref and see also. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

KTechlab
‎Declining db-spam deletion because article has been around almost 3 years with many editors, but feel free to take this to WP:AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not an argument for decline. Just because a company has been using wikipedia for free advertisement and has had less than 25 edits in "3 years" doesn't mean it is still not spam or meet general notability or notability for corp.  16x9 (talk) 02:28, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Inspiration FM
Declining speedy deletion and asking WP:WPRS for help. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Blog Quiz
Declining db-notability; this isn't a person, company or website. Feel free to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are correct that this is not a person, company or [specific] website, but CSD A7 says web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. A blog quiz per this definition article (oh by the way wikipedia is not dictionary either) is web content.  16x9 (talk) 02:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, someone vandalized it and is was deleted as vandalism. I restored it and removed the vandalism DGG (talk) 17:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Ralivia
Declining db-spam deletion because we already have a good article under the generic name; making redirect. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Ancient Roman society
Declining speedy; tagger's rationale was "This article is a duplicate of a section that was already in existence in the article Ancient Rome. This article was originaly created as part of a page split that was reversed in July of 2008 and has caused some (or a great deal) of confusion due to it not being deleted at that time." There are no speedy deletion criteria that cover this; would you like for me to take the article to WP:Articles for deletion? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Please. I believe there is nothing to be merged from what I see in the history but even that would be fine. There is simply no reason for the article to exist and is causing enough confusion. Thank you.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Done: Articles for deletion/Ancient Roman society. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Sasha Knox
Declining G7 deletion; many editors. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good call. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 05:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I had the feeling I was missing something. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Journal of Civil Rights and Social Justice
Declining db-nonsense; it's a real journal. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Andrews Kurth
Declining speedy deletion; article has been around a long time with multiple versions and many editors. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

L33tsp33k
Declining "r3" speedy deletion; the extra redirect isn't promotional, and I've seen l33tsp33k myself somewhere. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy
Declining db-spam deletion. 2640 google news archives hits (even subtracting "press", "release", etc as keywords). We should have an article on this group. Moved to official name, added refs and see also, and edited for tone. This was formerly a redirect to Efficient energy use. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Trisk
Declining speedy deletion; would need clear consensus in the AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Special Operations Assault Rifle (SOAR)
Declining db-spam deletion request by IP, reverting to the last non-promotional version. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Water courses
A judgment call, but it doesn't seem to be db-context, db-vandalism or db-spam. Prodding and watching. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

St. Andrew's Channel, Nova Scotia
Declining speedy deletion that was requested and then rejected by the only editor. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Akmed the dead terrorist
Declining speedy deletion, redirecting to proper spelling. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Clean Water Action
Declining db-spam request by IP for three reasons: db-spam requires no non-promotional version in the history; speedy deletion is not for articles with a long history and many editors; and db-spam requires nothing but promotional content. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Essential Eating Sprouted Baking
I declined the speedy deletion and took the article to AfD because db-notability doesn't apply to books. A Google news archive search gives 39 hits for Janie Quinn, but none mentioned this book in the visible summaries, and the standard to meet at the notability guideline for books is very high. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Routers2
Declining db-spam request by IP because there are non-promotional versions in the page history, and because the references clearly establish notability, and db-spam fails if there is useful content. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Harris Chan
Declining db-bio; I added several refs from Google news archives. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

User:IT BURNS, User talk:IT BURNS, and User talk:Woman Priest
I provided a reason for the deletion of those userpages/user talk pages: CAT:TEMP. Userpages and user talk pages of indefinitely-blocked users, who have been blocked for 1 month, are deleted. See User:CAT:TEMP deletion bot for more information about CAT:TEMP. These pages are deleted per WP:DENY. Cunard (talk) 03:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding these to this page, but I'm not following. There are 20,545 pages in that cat, and the bot is no longer approved for use, and both those things suggest that these pages aren't being deleted now.  Assuming they should be deleted, which rationale at WP:CSD would it be under? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank55 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The rationale would be db-housekeeping. The common sense rationale would be WP:DENY. These users are the socks of, who has been banned for his vandalism and sockpuppetry. The user pages and user talk pages of HR's socks are routinely deleted because they serve no useful purpose to the Wikipedian community. Take a look at User talk:'Ey Gringo!, where several of HR's recent socks are listed. Specifically, the history of User talk:91.108.246.142 and the despicable things he has said about the deceased user, . IMO, that IP's talk page, as well as all the other user pages and user talk pages of this banned user, should be immediately deleted and salted per WP:DENY. Cunard (talk) 04:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe G5 could be interpreted to handle this: "Pages created by banned users in violation of their ban, with no substantial edits by others." It would depend on what that last part means.  I would want to see some discussion at WT:CSD before I'd be willing to use G6 for this.  I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just saying it's not something I've heard discussed. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion. Cunard (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The consensus at WT:CSD is that talk pages of indef-blocked users qualify under db-housekeeping. Will you delete the pages now? Cunard (talk) 01:12, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, and nicely argued. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 03:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Kindliness
Ah, a kind word from you has brightened my evening. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Populist?
That was the first time I was ever called that. :D Now, the "is, and wants to be" is interesting. I can understand the "wants to be", because I don't think I have popular support on anything so it would be hard to be an actual populist. Do I even have support half the time? I mean, the opposes kinda seem like everything else I'm involved with. I always tend to be the lone dissenter, the guy in front of a tank, and chances are I get run over. But thanks for thinking of me as a populist. It makes me feel as if people perceive that I have a large amount of support. : D Ottava Rima (talk) 16:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I say a lot of things that no one says. I'm sure my brutal honesty and longwindedness will serve me well in my wiki-career :)  I'm thinking of "populist" as an evolutionary strategy, a common instinct, rather than a result.  Populism can work, and it can be much appreciated, but it takes talent and hard work.  You love Wikipedia and put a lot of effort into it, but the gruff attitude will attract people who like to hurl insults; if you don't distance yourself from these comments, then voters may assume that you share their views. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:26, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. Look at all the support you're getting in your RFA ... I don't think you can claim to be a voice in the wilderness when you're getting almost 50% enthusiastic support :) - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, is that 50% of the supports are enthusiastic? Haha. That isn't as good as it sounds. :P I'm thinking that when the mass opposes are done (the old grudges), then they wont be able to even out against the long time friends (many of who haven't looked in yet). I'm hoping to top 100 on one side or another (hopefully both!). But yeah, I think the general comments about "great article contributor" on both sides works as a sort of RfC on me in general. :D Ottava Rima (talk) 18:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, I get attacked a lot for being very supportive of Jimbo and ArbCom (both groups being labeled as "tyrants" by many). So, I found it a little amusing that I would be against "tyrants". Its all perspective though. :D Ottava Rima (talk) 16:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * LOL! Thanks! :P Remind me to mawl you during the next discussion we are involved in. :P Ottava Rima (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I get carried away at RFA; I can't say you've improved every area unless I actually look at every area, and I'm way too lazy to do that. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess you are right. But still. The fact that you considered it then reconsidered it is amusing. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 17:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw, I was serious about being more than happy to help. If there's some work I can help with, or you want an opinion on how something might come across to the denizens of RFA, please let me know. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've spent long enough on RFA to know what to expect, and nothing is that surprising. As you can see, there are some people coming out of the wiki woodworks. :D But if you want to help on any content area that you share an interest, I am always up for that. I love to try and get as many people to work on various pages of mine as possible. My user space has a list of things being worked on. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Explore Kent
This was created by an s.p.a. with a highly suspicious name, User:Kentexplorer, whose sole purpose seems to be to advertise this program and the allure of Kent. I believe he/she probably works for Explore Kent. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I follow that, it's just that I don't see evidence that there's any organization called "Explore Kent"; this seems to be the Kent County Council picking a snappy slogan, and maybe hiring someone to do a website. Would AfD be okay with you?  I know you "outrank" me at CSD by a mile, but I think discussion might help, for my education at least. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as you do the AfD paperwork, go ahead. And I don't think that "rank" is a meaningful concept among we wielders of the Mop-and-Bucket. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Macroview
I've created a new page for macroview with references from online sources. Where can I put it to be reviewed? Don't want it being deleted again. Thanks. Chris —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moejoe199 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Where you have it, User:Moejoe199/Macroview, is fine. I added noindex since some admins will delete anything they view as a promotional article in userspace without that tag.  (That keeps it from being picked up by search engines and mirrors.)  I'll be happy to help, but it's going to take a while; I've got a lot of wiki-duties, and then I'll have to educate myself on some issues concerning software articles before I can give you useful advice. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats not a problem, I've still got a few things to add to it and some research to do myself. Thanks for your help. - Chris User:Moejoe19909:30, 3 April 2009

Nah, don't worry about it...
I didn't catch that bit about the author's father. Best leave it deleted for COI issues. Thanks for asking, though. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

ITunes Live from London - David Gray
I don't understand why this discography entry is up for deletion. Just like any other music discography entry, it describes when the EP was released, some info about the songs, and a tracklisting. If this information does not suffice to keep it on Wikipedia, then I guess most of the wiki-pages created for single releases, should be as well.

Unit371 (talk) 10:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to add to my previous comment, that there are other iTunes EPs / releases that have their own wiki-pages as well, such as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_Originals_%E2%80%93_Alanis_Morissette

Naturally, the title is different here, but nonetheless it concerns an iTunes-only release, which would make it no different from my entry.

If there's a reason not to stay consistent in rules about music artists' releases, then I'd be interested to hear it!

Unit371 (talk) 10:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * When an AfD discussion is started, that's the place to make your case, and voters will generally listen to arguments like the one you're making, but the vote is currently 0 keeps and 2 deletes. My rationale at Articles for deletion/ITunes Live from London - David Gray was: Declining db-spam deletion, taking to AfD; none of the 34 ghits (for "Live from London EP" david gray) suggest notability for this "online only" album, but I can't speedy delete for that.  'Officially released" albums of notable musicians are often presumed notable regardless of ghits ... but was this an "officially released album" per WP:MUSIC? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Allright, in that case I've no clue what to do or change in order to keep it. As far as I can tell, many other artists have "Live from London" EPs, released through iTunes, and have actual articles on it here on WP.

I was just trying to expand the amount of information on David Gray releases. If that is not the aim on WP, so be it. Delete away!

Unit371 (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So far, the voters are saying that releasing on ITunes plus no ghits indicating notability means delete. I added the discussion to the "list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions"; you may want to post a note asking for people to look in on the deletion discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music.  Music really isn't my thing; it could easily be that WP:WPMUSIC people will think that an ITunes release should count the same as traditional releases.  Add your vote! - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, I do not know enough about WP to start asking people on here for their opinion or start a poll. It makes me wonder why you nominated my article for deletion when "music isn't really your thing" in the first place! Shouldn't you have left it to the WP-Music article writers to begin with? I really don't think I should be bothered to keep my article, when this ungrounded and apparently biassed noomination was caused by you. If you don't feel responsible for the mess, that's fine. I'll just await deletion, knowing I did my part to make the David Gray article more accurate and expansive.

Unit371 (talk) 16:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Click on Articles for deletion/ITunes Live from London - David Gray, read the deletion discussion, and if you'd like to say any of this there, click on "edit" and type. That's all there is to it.  It's not a problem if the format is wrong, someone will fix it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Wfls.png
Yeah, tagged it for deletion because it is orphaned. Since I was the main uploader of the image, I requested it speedy deleted. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 4, 2009 @ 14:58
 * Okay, I deleted. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 4, 2009 @ 15:11

Deletion of Desycling page
Hi Dan,

While is was publishing my first contribution to Wikipedia, you already deleted it. It was amazing how fast this went, even during the editing, I lost all I worked on. It's amazing how you did this.

But now, I'm really convinced that I should publish this information in wikipedia, what do I do. I can't even make a start, so in what way do I publish information?

I have a lot more things to publish about design, but in this way I'm not very motivated to put energy in this.

Thanks, Dosigner —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dosigner (talk • contribs) 21:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * When I do a Google search in English for "desycling", none of the hits look like reliable sources. In order to establish the notability of your company's concept, we'd need to see significant mentions in major newspapers, magazines, and books (and there are other reliable sources, including some websites).  English sources are not absolutely required, but it's hard to have an article on en.wikipedia.org without them.  I see there are a lot more Dutch sources than English, and I see that there is no article (or redirect page) named "Desycling" on nl.wikipedia.org.  Is there any page on nl.wikipedia.org devoted to what you're calling "Desycling"? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Dan,

Thanks for taking the effort to reply. First, it's not my company. At all. I'm trying to write a few wikipedia articles on design strategies, and this is an interesting one that builds on cradle-2-cradle, so I started with this one. I understand now, that I should first write the article offline and then paste it in there, but it was my first attempt ever to do a wikipedia article, so please be patient with my efforts. Indeed, most sources are Dutch, so maybe I should start there first, but I wanted to take a more global approach for this series of articles, but... you're right, I didn't even think about this. I'll go to sleep now, but will try again tomorrow or next week, being better prepared and not publish the first 3 sentences first to see how it looked, because it was gone before I even figured out how to make a header.

Thanks,

Dosigner —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dosigner (talk • contribs) 22:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * If you can find a couple of reliable sources that have articles focusing on "Desycling", then I'll be happy to re-create the article in your userspace. Or, if you can't, but if you want to write an article on another subject that has that material, I'll re-create the material you need. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD of JEDEC memory standards
Hello,

You haven't edited the article in question, but since you are or have been actively involved in the IEC prefix discussion (sorry to remind you of it if you, like me, got tired of the uncivil discussion and wanted to have nothing to do with the issue anymore), I invite you to consider the nomination for deletion of the article JEDEC memory standards, which I believe can fairly be said to have been created only as a hammer for the discussion.

I beg you to try to keep your sentiments about the actual IEC prefix on Wikipedia question out of the deletion discussion and consider the merits of the deletion proposal, namely, notability in the Wikipedia sense (WP:N), regardless of which units you believe Wikipedia should use.

The deletion discussion is at Articles for deletion/JEDEC memory standards. --SLi (talk) 22:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Of interest...
...since you mentioned populism: this probably inappropriate edit (and summary). Frank |  talk  16:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Frank. I see the current version of the article doesn't start off with "...Reich is a populist...", which seems to me to comport better with WP:NPOV. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps; I haven't looked at the sources. That article, however, is constantly besieged by folks claiming to be personally "in the know" regarding the subject. Frank  |  talk  17:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As the link points out, our article on Hitler doesn't begin "Hitler was a bad man"; it begins "Hitler was an Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party." People can decide for themselves whether Hitler was a bad man, and whether Reich is a populist. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's the edit summary I'm more interested in. IDK if he's a populist or not :-) Frank  |  talk  19:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Joanie Bartels
I don't want you to delete my Joanie Bartels page. Just in case you did'nt know, she is a very popular children's singer. So, please don't delete it. Thank you for all of your time. Frederick Dickerson (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I declined the speedy deletion as a copyright violation and took it to WP:AfD. Now it's not up to me whether the page is deleted.  Feel free to comment at Articles for deletion/Joanie Bartels, and after 5 days, the page will usually be kept if reliable sources have been found establishing her notability. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Good job
Thank you! - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Balladyna
This is not a SPAM look at imdb

ITS BALLADYNA/ THE BAIT also at pl.wikipedia.org - Balladyna (film)


 * See WP:NFF; typically, we don't allow articles about films unless and until they've been released and widely reviewed in English-language sources. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

But this is US -POL co-production, but Why somebody deleted Dariusz  Zawislak as a director he had previous works could you help:  Iook at: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1002241/ Dariusz Zawislak http://www.filmweb.pl/o13373/Dariusz+Zawiślak http://www.adyton.eu Would you be consider to undelete page or create new based on pl.wikipedia.org - Dariusz Zawiślak Best regards M.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MARTHA WARTA 2000 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Name
Thanks for the heads up. Admittedly, I considered a name change request after R'n'B passed RfA, but to be honest, there's only been one instance of confusion to my knowledge (some time ago, an experienced troll vandalized R'n'B's page after I speedied their nonsense article). If it becomes more of an issue or if R'n'B would prefer that I change my name, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but for the moment I think I'm content to just take a wait and see. Thanks again. Rnb (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Works for me, happy editing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for PlayBox TV
An editor has asked for a deletion review of PlayBox TV. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 15:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Cha Cha Moon is back
Hi. I was patrolling the NewPages when I found Cha Cha Moon. I added a prod tag and added it to my watchlist. I noticed that you've already deleted the page. Just wanted to let you know. --Gardenhoser! (talk) 19:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I deleted it and salted it for 3 months. The same editor had added promotional links to Chinese cuisine, so I gave him a uw-spam4im warning.  Thanks much for pointing it out. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

If you have a moment
If you have a moment, I could use a hand or a referral to someone else who can help deal with this mess. At the current rate of things its going to get very ugly for everyone involved and I've done just about everything I can think of to avoid that. Tothwolf (talk) 00:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the pointers. I'm rather disappointed with how bureaucratic things have become here on Wikipedia since I was originally active. At this point I don't think DRV really is the place to deal with the underlying issues. I'm trying my best to remain civil while dealing with this but it hasn't been easy. Tothwolf (talk) 02:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Now, you know as well as I do the UCFD where these two categories were "discussed" is shaky/borderline at best. It is hard to see "Consensus" when discussion amounted to your nomination and one drive-by vote of someone hoping to make it through an RFA. How about this, lets notify every single editor listed in the categories and templates involved and ask them to weigh in on the discussion? To be honest, I'm not sure why this isn't done as a matter of course for user categories anyway. Tothwolf (talk) 05:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Actually, I personally think it would be a great idea to notify the ~450 users involved in these templates and categories. What better way to gauge real consensus? I have no doubt most of them would not agree with you, but doesn't that mean that your own POV might not really be in consensus with everyone else? Tothwolf (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I couldn't tell what was going on. I'm not good with behavioral issues (ANI, ArbCom).  Is there a deletion review coming up you want me to look at? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thus far it hasn't gone to ANI or ARB but I'm trying to determine if thats where it needs to go next. I've not yet filed a DRV, after looking though all the material I'm not sure it even should have one. A quick summary of the UCFD discussion is the only person pushing for these to be removed is VegaDark. The only other person who "voted" in the UCFD (which happened last December) was a SPA active on Wikipedia for ~4 months who "retired" immediately after an unsuccessful RFA. He scattered votes around random places around the time of the RFA and one of them just happened to end up on the UCFD for these categories. The main problem here is VegaDark has an agenda and has been trying to establish precedents to use for category deletions (specifically user categories). I can back up my claims with diffs and links (I'm typing this up in a hurry as I'm short on free time atm) but I'm just not sure where to go with this next. I've been trying my best to not step on toes since I returned to Wikipedia but I'm not sure I can avoid doing that in this case. Can you think of someone who would be willing to have an impartial look at this mess and lend a hand in trying to clean it up? Tothwolf (talk) 01:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's really quite simple- If you think the deletion debate was improper, file a DRV. I've said this numerous times now. What exactly is so hard about doing that? All the arguments you are making are arguments to be making at DRV. I'm not exactly sure what you expect Dank55 to do here. As for the other user who participated in the discussion, I have no clue how you came to the conclusion he was an SPA, but whatever argument you might have to help back up that claim should once again be made on a deletion review if you think that should change the outcome of the decision. As for me having an "agenda and has been trying to establish precedents to use for category deletions (specifically user categories)" I certainly make no claim otherwise. My agenda is for user categories to be collaborative, and I've nominated hundreds of them for deletion that I don't think have met this goal, simple as that. If you are asserting there is some sort of problem with this, then perhaps you should better familiarize yourself with the way Wikipedia works, as this isn't anything new. If you are honestly hoping for someone to step in and say "you know what? That deletion was improper, and you know what else? We don't even need a deletion review to overturn it!", then all I can say is good luck with that. I don't know why you seemingly refuse to file a DRV, but since that seems to be the case, and as I've given you ample time and notice to do so, the merge pursuant to the UCFD closure will be enacted in the timeline I noted on your userpage. For the thousandth time, I strongly urge you to file a deletion review if you think the closure was improper. VegaDark (talk) 02:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Several of the elements here are things I really don't have much experience with ... behavioral issues, sockpuppets, category work. The general idea on Wikipedia is that when you're having a problem, you don't pick a kind-looking person and ask for help; instead, you take the problem to the proper forum, and then whoever wants to volunteer their time will help you out.  DRV sounds like the right place to go for this.  If you think VegaDark might be doing something shifty but you're not sure what or how to handle it, you might try some lightweight process like Third opinion for mediation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dan I'm sorry VegaDark followed me over here.
 * VegaDark, I'm only going to say this one more time: Please stop trying to put words in my mouth. Tothwolf (talk) 03:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * At no point in my last reply did I even come close to putting words in your mouth. I have no clue what portion of it you are claiming me to have done so. I also have to say I don't appreciate your tone, and remind you to stay civil. VegaDark (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As someone who tends to hang around Deletion Review, I can understand why people are reluctant to use it. The style of argument there is difficult and legalistic--not was the decision was, but was the process by which the decision was made wrong. Still, Deletion Review tends to come to the right result more than half the time: I'd say about 55%. So you might as well go there and toss the coin, which is pretty much what it amounts to. (You might ask why i work there if it's such a problematic thing--I work there to try to get it from 50% to 55%. and I hope eventually to 60% and so forth.) Nothing in a system like this is likely to ever come out right all the time.  Myself, I much prefer asking people for help than using formal process. What can work in a system like this is persuasion. Vega, i know i won't persuade you, but even by your principle, there are a very broad range of things that help collaboration. DGG (talk) 03:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, only 55%? I hope we get it right more often at CSD; I think we do, but maybe I'm fooling myself. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if I suddenly changed my mind and agreed that, in retrospect, we should keep the category (which is far from true), I would still want proper process followed in doing so, meaning a DRV would need to be filed. As someone who frequents DRV I can only infer, DGG, that you also care strongly about process being followed properly. I can also only assume you would agree that not following the UCFD closure simply because one user believes it to be invalid (and refuses to file a DRV over it) is certainly no reason to ignore standard wikipedia procedures. VegaDark (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * VegaDark, for the record the only reason I've not yet taken this to DRV is I've been extremely busy. I've got a lot going on outside of Wikipedia right now which is why I'm also not doing as much editing. I'm doing good to keep up with a handful of XfDs and reply to editors on other talk pages at the moment. The fact that these categories sat in a backlog for over 3 months also shows that this is not a critical/pressing matter.
 * You've made over 100 edits over the course of a week since originally saying you were planning on bringing this to DRV (and even longer since I originally asked you to bring this to DRV), and have since said no less than twice that you don't really think DRV is the appropriate venue for the situation at hand. My assumption of good faith must be stretched to believe that you were too busy to write one, when you have had no problem explaining various theories on different user's talk pages as to why you think there are issues with this UCFD in that same time. If you do now in fact intend on filing one though, I am glad. As for the UCFD being "shaky/borderline", I would disagree 100%. Your accusation of the other user simply "fly by voting" on various things in order to get enough edits to pass an RfA doesn't seem well founded at all to me, and frankly even if if this accusation is true I don't believe that should automatically void his XfD participation. Who's to say what level of thought this user put in to his XfD participation, even if the sole goal of this participation was with the intent of passing an RfA. Finally, I've noted before that many XfDs are closed with only the nominator as a participant, meaning even if your accusation is 100% true and there is a consensus to discount the other participant, the UCFD would still be valid, although you might have a better case to look at the merits of the category in a deletion review to determine if consensus has changed or not. The fact the merge has been waiting 3 months to be performed could be argued for any unperformed XfD- Just because someone didn't quickly enact it doesn't mean the door is now open to indefinitely suspend enacting that closure based on one user's complaint. Individually notifying every user in a particular category has been mentioned many times before, and dismissed as a form of canvassing (a user within a category is going to be much more likely to support keeping said category than, say, a disinterested user looking over deletion discussions. Plus, anyone particularly interested should have the category on their watchlist if they want to know if the category is up for deletion. VegaDark (talk) 05:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (For the record, most of the edits VegaDark seems to be referring to was the repopulation of Category:Artificial satellites formerly orbiting Earth after the 2009 March 28 DRV, which took around 30-45 minutes.)

--Tothwolf (talk) 02:33, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * VegaDark, Do you want to take this to AN/I and ARB?

Dan, If this discussion is getting to be too much for your talk page, feel free to move the whole section over to mine. As I mentioned earlier I never intended for VegaDark to follow me over here. Sorry about all the noise :) Tothwolf (talk) 21:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Un-deletion
Hey Dank55, you recently deleted my user page on my own request. Well, I changed my mind about the retirement within the last 24 hours and I would like to humbly ask if it much trouble to un-delete or restore it. If it is necessary to go through many official channels I'd rather refrain from it, there was not much on the user page that was worth keeping, anyway. Well, the table with articles I have contributed to maybe. doxTxob \ talk 04:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I undeleted, then someone deleted a few seconds later, then I undeleted again :) Happy editing, hope you're back. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much Dank55! I am sorry to have caused you extra work by my premature decision to have the page deleted. I was angry about a few things not going right on Wikipedia but quitting is not the way to go. I will think a little longer next time. Thank you again, I appreciate your help, doxTxob \ talk 01:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Getting angry is cool with me. Let me know if I can help. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Tourism Concern
Please speedy delete this (again) R3ap3R.inc (talk) 15:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. I also left a message on their talk page; I'm encouraged that they were at least willing to pick a new username as I asked them to when I blocked them. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Carlucci Weyant
I have a question, how is the new page that I have put up promotional? This actor has major A-list films that have been noted in websites and articles all across the world, has a film that won a number of features and works with some of the top members of Hollywood. I do not understand. I do all of his pr from putting up all his websites to signing him and maintaining all the other websites including model mayhem, myspace and any other small public site. This is for publicity reason. Please do further due diligence as this is a person that many people know and have repeatedly requested him to be on wikipedia. Thank you. - Francesa R. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.144.155 (talk) 16:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Npov describes the tone we're looking for; look at other articles on Wikipedia about actors. Any article that's been worked on carefully won't have promotional sentences like the ones that were in that article: "A natural born net worker, Weyant built extensive networks and opened distribution channels from traditional marketing to cutting edge viral campaigns", and "This New York native is a classically trained actor and has relationships with some of the top minds in Hollywood".   Also, that article was a copyright violation, copied word for word. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for clearing that up, all the bio's were created by me but in any case if I change the wording to meet wiki's requirements will be able to post it up. If you could give me a few pointers that would be excellent. Thank you so much for all your help - Ces  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.144.155 (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Best would be to register a username so that it's easier for people to leave messages for you, then write a short article on your own talk page and post a message asking for feedback at WT:ACTOR, which is the project where people discuss actors. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

List of America's 100 greatest golf courses
You redirected this article "per discussion on talk page" yet there was no such discussion. I would simply ask that there be a true discussion over a reasonable period before automatically redirecting. As shown by the "under construction" tag, I am working on developing this into an acceptable article. Only one other editor has expressed actual opposition and seems determined not to allow any further development or even discussion and used your redirect as a supposed Admin decision. I would appreciate it if you would explain your position on the article's talk page. Thank you. Toounstable (talk) 04:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I didn't know that there was an ongoing discussion. I weighed in there. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

help required for revision of article
Hi Dank55, i posted an article naming Vopium, through my another account but both article and account were deleted. then i switched to my old account (ie current one) and writing you this message. I have revised the article for re-posting. I've tried to make all of the information in the article factually correct and accurately described Vopium alongwith references throughout. I have tried my best to make it look like encyclopedic but i would also like to ask you that what you feel is the best path forward for resubmitting? I will highly thankful for the kind help. Mansoor.ehsan (talk) 10:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The first problem is notability. Is the product out of beta yet?  Can you find articles that mention the product in some significant way in online versions of printed newspapers, magazines or books?  Most of the sources you used don't help establish notability. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:39, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleting Natural User Interface
You would make a much better service by editing the article than deleting it all. Natural User Interface (NUI) is a term widly used in interaction design (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interaction_design)... To everybody else check the Google cached article: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:u8Z1onx42Y4J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_User_Interface+natural+user+interface —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.58.164.167 (talk) 10:33, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There were no references supporting the notability of the "Natural User Interface Group". - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

A face from the old...
Well, sort of. I was on low-activity mode from October to February, and I missed your elevation to the great office of janitor. Congratulations. I hope you are handling your new role well and without any of the stress that often comes with it.

I am slowly increasing my involvement with the community, although I have dropped a few of the items in my old agenda. I don't know how the Manual of Style clean-up is going (or whether you are still working on it), but I do not expect to do anything in this area in the near future, and maybe for longer than that. Apart from a mild interest in the progress of this matter, I simply cannot afford the resources to become more active there. Therefore, unless you have a use for it, I propose dismantling the experimental system we started developing last year for the documentation of the Manual and deleting its associated pages (everything listed here and any connected talk pages). It's a pity, but then again imagine how many such enterprises must have ended up in the dustbin throughout Wikipedia... Waltham, The Duke of 16:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm up to my neck in moppery and enjoying it. Welcome back!  How is school? I mostly do WP:CSD these days, so yeah, feel free to remove any of the WT:MOS stuff.  You might enjoy the monthly WP:Update. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for asking; school is going well, certainly better than in the previous semester, at least. I've just started my two-week Easter break (Orthodox Easter is a week after the Catholic one), hence the delay in replying (adjustment period), for which I apologise.

I have taken note of the updates, and you are to be commended for your diligent work in preparing them. They fill an important information gap in Wikipedia, and although I do not follow them that closely myself, I understand that they are especially useful for people dealing with FAs and the like, as well as participating in many meta-discussions.

Regarding the pages, I wonder if you might be so kind as to delete them yourself. As you say, you specialise in speedy deletions, and the fact that you have contributed to some of the pages in question might be an issue with a CSD request otherwise. And there is the posting of all those "db" templates, of course. :-) Therefore, three birds with one stone. Waltham, The Duke of 14:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Absolutely, I'll get to it this morning. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 11:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Great job so far, Dan, and I thank you for it. There are only User talk:The Duke of Waltham/MoS/Charts and User talk:The Duke of Waltham/MoS/Charts/Manual of Style left, and then the whole thing will be almost as if it had never happened. Then I can get my watchlist to include just 82 pages, which is quite an improvement from the 120+ it had before my recent cleanup.

And that will probably be the last bit of housekeeping I'll need for some time. The rest of my userspace is pretty tidy, although a few pages probably need updating.

I had never thought I'd be too bored to do that. I wonder whether this is a sign of Wikipedian maturity—in the sense that I care more about the mainspace and discussions than about my own pages—or plain lack of enthusiasm. Waltham, The Duke of 22:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably you've got better things to do, which can only be good ... you've got your whole life ahead of you, as people like to say for some absurd reason. (I've got this recollection that ancient Greeks pictured man as walking backwards through time, since that would let him see where he had been but not where he was about to go ... so they said the future was "behind" and the past was in "front" ... does modern Greek do that?)  Anyway ... speedy deletion policy and WP:USER policy won't let me delete talk pages in your userspace unless you're exercising WP:RTV (which I hope you're not), and people at places like RFA care about misapplication of speedy deletion rules more than anything else.  Will blanking them serve you just as well? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Better things? Well, that relies on interpretation. I am continuing my research on the Palace of Westminster, as well as reading a book on cryptography a friend of mine has lent me, The Code Book.

Modern Greek does not treat the past and the future much differently than English does, and this is the first time I've heard of the mental image of life you describe. I like the logic behind it; hindsight is commonplace, while foresight is a rare gift.

Regarding the pages, I was not aware of that policy. I did not desire to hide the discussions, which are probably of little interest to other editors anyway, but merely to get rid of the pages; now that I see how the Wikipedia principle of transparency extends into the userspace, I'll simply keep them as archives.

Thank you for your trouble. Regards, Waltham, The Duke of 16:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Memphis Soul Music/Memphis soul article merger discussion
Thanks for your input. Can you add to the discussion about the proposed merger of the Memphis Soul Music and Memphis soul articles? Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Music really isn't my forte. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Web services gateway
It looks like my withdrawal and subsequent tagging clashed with your deletion. I apologize for the mess, the rationale for withdrawing was that upon reflection I didn't see a clear advertising case, only a poorly sourced article in bad need of cleanup, something which can be fixed through other means. Sorry for the disruption. MLauba (talk) 21:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think there's an argument that we could eventually get to a good article; on the other hand, the promotional language for a particular product is the usual trigger to delete as "advertising", and I see that User:PMDrive1061, who does a lot of CSD work, deleted the article again one minute after I did for the same reason. I'll be happy to recreate the article in your user-space if you would like to work on it. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I have mixed feelings about this, I try to be more careful about my tagging after you cautioned me on an early A3 case a couple of days ago. I try to approach CSD as a way to get another pair of (experienced) eyes on something which I see as too fishy for a PROD. I cannot entirely escape the feeling that User:PMDrive1061 simply re-deleted because of the edit clash between my issue tagging and your deletion immediately recreated the page. I would therefore defer to your judgement about the spammy nature (or lack thereof) of the article. In case you deem my doubts sufficient to give the article another chance, I'd appreciate a recreation under User:MLaubau/Sandbox2. In the meantime, I'll take the liberty to ping User:PMDrive1061 to this exchange for his views. MLauba (talk) 22:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the opportunity. :)  I'm certainly not de facto against an article on the subject if it's written in a neutral manner; the one I deleted looked like a copyvio.  Yes, by all means feel free to recreate an article under the title, one which fits the criteria for inclusion.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I restored and then moved the article to userspace (slightly different username, though, MLaubau ... is that also you?) - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I think that's a simple typo, no user of that name exists. I boldly moved to my own userspace and tagged U2 on the redirect. Thanks for your cooperation on the whole matter. MLauba (talk) 23:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll clean it up. Let me know if I can help. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Aitias
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Aitias/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Aitias/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, [[Sam Korn ]] (smoddy) 22:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Angry Lamb Studios Article
Hello Dank5. I am new to wiki so thanks for offering to help me. I now understand what was wrong with all of my articles. They were directory entries not encyclopedia entries. However, the final article that remains is this Angry Lamb Studios article. I have rewritten the entire thing, with a source, with a notable item under "Press". I am unsure if this is notable accoring to wiki guidelines. I was hoping you might be able to review it and let me know. Also, the article about Ty Fyffe to me seems just as eligible for speedy deletion as some of my earlier articles. Is this so? Why or why not? My feeling is that it has absolutely no sources. Is this a qualification for deletion? Thanks so much. Jsf8336 (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting a search hit on "angry lamb" in that new online magazine you listed for a ref. The vote at the WP:AfD is leaning strongly in favor of deletion for lack of references.  Keep looking for articles that mention your studio. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Spam vs Notability
Dank55 - just a little curious about your comments on the db-spam CSD I placed on TheKoalition.com. You mention it's only spam if it's non-notable. Is that part of the policy? Because the way I read G11 there is no requirement for it to be non-notable. "Blatant advertising. Pages that exclusively promote some entity and that would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion."

Just wondering. Thanks. JCutter (talk) 03:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a good question that I don't have a good answer to yet, but I'm getting there. I spend a good part of the day deleting spam, so look at my deletion log.  If an article is about something sold on late-night TV and the point seems to be to get people to buy or sign up, I typically won't think much about notability.  It doesn't matter much to me if someone really does have the best herbal viagra on the market, sold in stores everywhere; it's not the right tone for Wikipedia.  TheKoalition.com is just 3 short sentences, and articles that are intended to promote a product are typically much longer; I also know nothing about gaming, so I decided to hand it over to the guys who do the db-notability queue.  I couldn't find anything in the first 50 ghits that suggested notability, which seemed like a bad sign. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 04:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * OK - thanks.  JCutter (talk) 04:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Copy of email exchange concerning Whiskey Basin
Hi! I am actually the writer/copyright holder for the content on www.whiskeybasin.com/history.php. I posted the Whiskey Basin entry here, but it was deleted for copyright infringement. How can I get that reupped? [Name withheld]


 * First, make a post at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music saying "Here's some information from this website, does this band merit an article in Wikipedia?" There are 12 different things that band can do (such as charting) to merit an article.  If they say yes, then read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permission for how to deal with copyright problems.  Happy editing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio of Buddy wrapping
I just discovered that Buddy wrapping is a complete rip-off of this website. The article has been there for over two years as is, so I'm a bit surprised no one has ever noticed this. -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 02:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good catch. The copyvio tag you added keeps the page from being a legal problem, and the folks who monitor WP:CV will decide if there's any version they can revert to. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Why Religions for Peace Page was deleted
I've created a page for the Religions for Peace Non-governmental organization; however, it was deleted, can you please help me understand why and how can i retrieve this page?

Thank You,

Gloria Decamps

Gloriadecamps (talk) 01:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Gloria, certainly. I will re-create the page that was deleted at this link: User:Gloriadecamps/Sandbox.  The page was deleted because it was a close copy of 4 copyrighted pages: http://www.wcrp.org/about/index, http://www.wcrp.org/about/history, http://www.wcrp.org/initiatives/global-youth-network and http://www.wcrp.org/initiatives/women/index.  Wikipedia can't accept copyrighted material.  One solution is to condense the material and re-write it in your own words, and see WP:FIRST for an idea of what we're looking for to avoid deletion. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleted article
Since you have deleted Neutrino Array Radio Calibration, can you please close its related AfD discussion? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I object to this speedy deletion under (G12: copyright infringement of http://www.physics.ku.edu/facilities/rice/rice.html) as this is for cases where "where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving". It was clearly NOT all copyvio and could have been discussed as per WP:COPYVIO. Pontificalibus (talk) 21:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To meet both the letter and the spirit of U.S. copyright laws, we have to delete or hide copyright violations at about the same time that we find them ... but I don't have any preference how we hide them. I saw complete sentences that looked like copyvio all over that article, so I deleted, but I'll restore the article and delete most of the contents per your request; you all are welcome to continue to debate at the AfD what the final result should be. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

"ITV Late News" / "The Late News"
Hi there Dank55,

There seems to be a little bit of a problem with the aforementioned articles: the British news programme in question is indeed called The Late News, and my moving of all content from the incorrectly-named ITV Late News article aimed to reflect this. I apologise for the way I went about it: I was wondering, if of course it is no trouble, could you rename the ITV Late News entry to become the The Late News? I hope this is no trouble.

Many regards, Nick (LBM)

 LBM  | TALK TO ME  00:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You might be able to do the move yourself, since I deleted the page that was in the way, but if there's still conflict, it might be best to try to get consensus first, either on the article talk page or at WP:Requested moves. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no conflict that I'm aware of - some months ago I wrote on the talk page of the article in question asking if anyone opposed me moving the page to its correct title. No-one responded so I gathered that it was not a problem. The problem was indeed that the article I wanted to move it to was already taken - I realise now that this is no longer the case as you have deleted that page; I will now move the article. Thanks,  LBM  | TALK TO ME  01:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Secure-24
Just a note, you seem to have forgotten to check the article history on that one. Please be more careful in the future, it's quite pointless for me to go and review speedy taggings if other admins ignore my decisions ;-) Regards  So Why  12:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I do check histories; sorry, I missed that one. But on the subject, I don't see how this article is less promotional in tone than others you've deleted this morning.  No reliable sources, and it begins: "Secure-24 (Secure-24, Inc) is a provider of managed hosting, disaster recovery and managed services for the enterprise-level, mission-critical applications of middle-market companies and large enterprise.  Secure-24 provides critical application hosting and managed services to organizations that need to meet rigorous compliance metrics (i.e. SAS 70, HIPAA, Sarbanes-Oxley, GLB.) Services are provided to companies across all sectors, including financial, healthcare, government, manufacturing, chemical, internet retail, automotive supply and OEM. A deep knowledge of ERP systems and complex architectures combined with state-of-the-art data centers and infrastructure allow Secure-24 to deliver solutions that are highly available, scalable to accommodate evolving business needs, and meet the security requirements of today's demanding regulatory environment."  What part of that can we keep?  Which sentence isn't full of marketing slogans? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Point was that I had declined it earlier and you deleted it, thus giving the impression that people could just retag until someone deletes it. As for the article itself, I think the first sentence could have been kept as non-promotional, cutting all the rest. I'm not fighting for it of course, I do not really care for the content. I just in general to be more careful with checking histories, no sense in multiple admins disagreeing and having to do the same work. Regards  So Why  13:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, sorry. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. I see now it was also tagged as a copyvio, and it was a word-for-word copyright violation. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry then. I read you deleted it for the same reason that I declined before, hence I was confused. But if it was a valid G12, you were more than correct to delete it. Ah well, confusion happens ;-) Have a nice rest of the day :-) Regards  So Why  16:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You declined the A7 for Workstation Specialists, it's back as G11 ... your call. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Not terribly important, but...
Would you mind taking care of some of the templates at Talk:Suicide? I was rearranging the archives into a box, and that has caused some problems in terms of section editing. -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 01:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not good with templates, unless you want them deleted. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough. What I meant was rearranging the order of the templates on the talk page, because they're all stacked up on one side of the page and they create problems in section editing. -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 02:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, for that, see WP:BUNCH. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I had a go at this. I added a banner shell to consolidate the 3 project banners, and removed the archive box because the archives are all linked in the talkheader. Also added a 'skip to TOC' template since the tags + todo list make for a lot to scroll through. I won't be offended if you want to change some or all of the templates back to the |small=yes versions, but I don't think it helps much since they end up taking exponentially more vertical space. Maralia (talk) 03:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, good job! -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 03:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I add ArticleHistory and project banners on a lot of articles, so I have a fair amount of experience in making talk page templates behave nicely :) Maralia (talk) 04:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks much for your help, Maralia. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Camphill Svetlana deletion
I added a "hangon" some time ago and am in the process of rewriting. Do you mind if I create a new article removing the copyright violations? Thanks. --EPadmirateur (talk) 03:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The current article looks good, but make sure in the future not to reproduce whole sentences. We have to hide copyright violations at about the same time as we see them, whether there's a "hangon" tag or not. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

deletion of Left Behind Games
What is your justification of deleting a page dedicated to a public company, that although it has lost a fair amount of cash, still has more than 200 investors after it has successfully launched the first and most widely distributed Christian PC Video Game ever? They are supported by nearly every major ministry, from Focus on the Family to the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. And this past September, they posted their first profit. They are makers of some of the highest quality and best Christian PC games ever made. In view of the rise in Christian media, including Films, and Music in the past 15 years, it seems appropriate that this leading edge company would, appropriately, have it's own WikiPedia page. In view of the false mistatements made by the liberal media, please undelete the page...and contribute something, if you have something concrete and honest to add.JackInMurrieta (talk) 10:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The logs show it's been deleted 8 times by 5 different admins, so the odds are even if I wrote the article myself in something like its current form, it would get deleted as promotional. What you might want to do is make a post at the wikiproject for video games, and ask for advice. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

YorkArts
Hello. You deleted my article for YorkArts, claiming there to have been copyright violations. I am the intern for YorkArts, and my boss requested that I create an article on wikipedia for the organization, and he permitted me to glean whatever I needed from their website, http://www.yorkarts.org. At the bottom of my article it included a reference section and listed the website as my reference. Is there anything I can do in creating a new page that would prevent it from being deleted but still using the material from their website? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YorkArts (talk • contribs) 16:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's start with some reading material: WP:Permission (for copyrighted material), WP:COI, and WP:ORG. Also, you'll need a new username; your current username violates our username policy because it represents a group that you're writing about. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC) tweaked links

Decline of db-spam on Anukul Gita
Thanks for taking the time to look at the article, you gave the existance of the article for 3.5 years as a reason for denying the speedy, I can't find any mention of a time limit on the WP:CSD page, is this a standard convention, or a personal rule you apply? TurningWork (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I took this to AfD. I decline db-spam when a "lot" (whatever that means) of editors have looked at roughly the same article and no one thought to delete it, because it's not my place to overrule everyone else's judgment.  I really don't know how this one got by everyone, and it seems likely that it will be deleted at AfD if it stays in its current form.  Also, one more week after 3.5 years really doesn't make much difference. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:03, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 'k thanks, wasn't complaining, just looking for clarification on what the guidelines were. TurningWork (talk) 08:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Decline of db-spam on International SOS
Why? How is this not BLATANT ADVERTISING? I don't see much substance other than giving details about a corporation. Looks like promotion to me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gb80 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Burlodge
Upon review, my inclination is to leave it deleted. If you want to take it to AfD, I won't mind. --Ryan Delaney talk 15:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, taking it to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

ExerciseTV
You declined the speedy on ExerciseTV because the creator wished that the db-author would be removed. Doesn't the article meet A7, though? Cunard (talk) 23:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I stick to G3 G1 through G12. That wasn't a G7. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind. This company is notable, so I've expanded and sourced the article. Thanks for not deleting it! Cunard (talk) 00:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Aneesh Chopra
Hi Dank, the content that was copied into this article was part of a Press Release put out by the Obama Administration. As a creation of the U.S. Government, it is public domain. There was no copyright violation. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willfjohnston (talk • contribs) 03:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have the url for the federal source? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

[Press Release]


 * That works. I'll restore the article and add the proper template to show it's PD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

North East Chinese Basketball League
Confucius7 (talk) 04:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)Confucius7 (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)Dear Administrator: my name is Peter and I am trying to create the page North East Chinese Basketball League on wikipedia. The writing regarding the NECBL you see from http://udel.edu/stu-org/ccd/index.html is my writing since I was the founder for that organization, China Club of Delaware. If you ask the current president Wenxiao Li (allenli@udel.edu | 302 4196828 ) or the Previous President Quan Deng ( dengquan@udel.edu ) - they can all testify that the writing is mine, Peter Ran (peterran@udel.edu). I am the Founder of China Club and also Founder + Organizer of the NECBL. I can provide emails and phone numbers of all the team captains / participants in order to prove that the written material is mine. Kind regards, Peter Ran 267 455 5443 Confucius7 (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)Confucius7 (talk) 04:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because it was a copy of http://udel.edu/stu-org/ccd/docs/NECBL.pdf. Please see WP:Permission for how to avoid the copyright problem. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding North East Chinese Basketball League; I have now managed to confirm the users OTRS email; the article is now tagged. I've largely rewritten it; full story in User talk:Confucius7. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  14:03, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Great Chzz, thanks. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Delition of an article
Dear Dank 55 You have deleted the Nankali's Masticatory Force Systematization, which I wrote it. I wonder if you could let me know that what was wrong there? Kind regards, --Ali nankali (talk) 07:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't have a lot to add to the advice that you got on your talk page back in January and February. WP:COI is our guideline that covers an inventor writing about his own invention. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: CSD Request
Regarding this decline, I did not set ClueBot III correctly and it was sent to the wrong archive. So, can you please delete the page? -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 17:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, now I follow, done. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I was only testing the differnece between MiszaBot and ClueBot; I perfer the first. -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 17:47, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Cornwall Island (Ontario)
Just a question on Cornwall Island (Ontario). Was the CSD tag the right course of action to take or would there have been a better one to use? - Warthog Demon  18:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Per WP:CSD, "earlier versions without infringement should be retained." Best is to try first just reverting to a non-copyvio version if there is one.  If that's reverted a couple of times, then I'll be happy to delete the page and restore only the non-copyvio versions.  Thanks for asking. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Unix merge
I've just seen that the new definition of the Unix command (ex : cron (Unix)) have been suppressed after my request of merging, to my mind it's abnormal. Moreover I've written in Cd (Unix) "db-histmerge cd" instead of "db-histmerge cd (command)", thank you for your services. JackPotte (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem of current version is that the merge hasn't been finished (eg: Mv, it's enough urgent), and its heterogeneity : the page names are depending of chronology instead of a lexical place (eg: ls instead of ls (Unix) will engendered a conflict if the users would need to add another "ls" definition). JackPotte (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, that sounds like something to discuss at WT:COMPUTING - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:43, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Mega Bank Liga
The article is a pure copy of Montenegrin First League with some hoax content like changed the nation from Montenegro to Andolia. Matthew_hk t  c  14:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look at the tag for db-nonsense, it excludes "hoaxes", and only includes articles "consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history." It's not db-nonsense, or any other speedy deletion category.  WP:AfD should work.  WP:Twinkle makes it easy to nominate an article for AfD, if you're not using some other tool. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Tupelo Honey Cafe
I can understand why you brought this to AfD. My own thought on the matter is that decent reviews of a restaurant act toward notability just as they do for a film or a book. While we grant notability to fast food establishments based upon the press they generate in their marketing, they rarely get great reviews for quality of product. If a smaller one-of establishment makes a decent enough impression to be reviewed and rated, that speaks toward its own notability in my opinion. Places like that will rarely get in-depth news coverage... unless thay are also historical or the site of some major event. So for them, a good review by established restaurant critics such as Frommers, definitely works to show note.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 16:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, and that's the direction the AfD is going. I'll decline similar db-spam deletions in the future. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If something has no reviews, no covergae, or no descernable notability, I would support a db-spam deletion. Luckily this one passed muster. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Reply List of Danish Governments
Thanks, but I can't merge the histories myself since I'm not an administrator (it is done by undeleting both pages at the same title). Could I ask you to have a try at that as well? Hemmingsen 16:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I misunderstood. I've restored the article; WP:SPLICE is the place to list articles for history merges. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. WP:SPLICE suggests using the template might be enough in simple cases, but I'll leave a note there, just be to sure. By the way, apologies for not noticing your talk page notice and replying in the wrong place. Hemmingsen 17:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. A merge requires an investigation to make sure no one could possibly have a problem with the merge, since they can be a massive pain to undo if the decision ever goes the other way.  As long as there's no backlog at WP:SPLICE and there's always more to do than gets done with CSD work, I'd rather they do it; but if for some reason it doesn't get done, feel free to ask again. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Ann Arbor Blues and Jazz Festival
(Apr 15) Also Ann Arbor Blues Festival. Couldn't determine who copied who, so moved to WP:CP. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Cooperative Performance Improvement
(Moved to bottom of page) Dank55 you delted the Cooperative Performance Improvement article giving a simple definition of the article title. Yes I have published the definitions at cooperativeperformance.com, however, the training classes teaching the topic will not be conducted for at least a couple of months thus there are 3 people in the world that know about this topic. If wiki does not want the actual definition of something appearing to be as impotant to performance improvement as Demmings work was to Quality, what gives. Or is it better to simply have someone else who does not understand the topic to submit? Surely this would be a validity problem for Wiki?

Markdgrissom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markdgrissom (talk • contribs) 17:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The relevant Wikipedia guidelines are WP:COI and WP:CORP. Please let me know if you have questions about what our guidelines mean. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

(Moved to bottom of page) Hey Dank55 you and Wikipedia are now officially notified you nor Wikipedia nor any representive of either have authorization to publish any aspects of works that fall within my copyrights. This is to avoid any quality issues with the information, definitions, understandings, or any other uninformed interpertation of the works. Dank55 if you or Wiki need to better understand what this means, feel free to contact me.

Markdgrissom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markdgrissom (talk • contribs) 17:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Royal Dutch Shell initiatives
How is this not promotional? It basically says "look how great Shell is" - yes it's referenced, but so what? G11 says nothing about references nor does it speak to how many users have edited the article. – ukexpat (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Given the person who wrote this article runs the the main anti-Shell attack site, and wrote similar articles listing all the negatives I agree it is not DB spam material. It was not written by the company but by their most productive critic, perhaps with shades of damning with faint praise. In my view it should be AfDed as a POV fork but it is at least worth an AfD and not a speedy. However I also think some of the other similar negative articles done by the same guy Controversies surrounding Royal Dutch Shell Royal Dutch Shell environmental issues Royal Dutch Shell safety concerns are also candidates. Incidentally Ukexpat, you are on the Schools Wikipedia short list of gold star editors, so hats off to you.    --BozMo talk 09:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy deletion isn't an excuse for one admin to substitute their judgment for the judgment of the community, it's a necessary time-saving device for dealing with articles the community probably isn't interested in. There have been nontrivial edits by at least 6 editors to the article over the past week, and there's an active discussion on the article at Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Bane (comics)
Thanks, I could not find that on the cited web site. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It was the last line on the page. Thanks for your tagging work. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

ChemAxon
HI - I worked on the page again, I think this is more suitable now. I have been trawling for business refertences but these are not so easy to find. We have very many sci article references but i dpon't think it is right to use these just to justify the citation rule. Lets see what bots do. Thanks again. Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.147.232 (talk) 18:29, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work. Another editor tagged the article for "speedy" deletion, but I declined the tag. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 22:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Morgan Ogg
Speedy deletion of Morgan Ogg: A tag has been placed on Morgan Ogg, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

db-copyvio: New version of article written, pending administrative approval at Morgan Ogg/Temp page. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 17:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add  on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 21:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The article at Talk:Morgan Ogg/Temp still appears to be a copyright violation to me. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Fine - can you please delete both the original article and the temp page, the whole shebang. I really do not want to spend any more time on this matter. As the creator of the article(s) I request deletion under WP:G7. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Notability
Hi Dan, I'm new to Wikipedia. Thanks for taking an interest in my Ubikwiti article that got an A7. I use Ubikwiti software and came to know about them through secondary links (as Wikipedia says). Would appreciate it if you could take a look at the following links. They are secondary links that would support the Notability issue: Please let me know if this would suffice.
 * 1) TMCNet (world’s largest technology and communication community) -
 * 2) Information week -
 * 3) CloudAve.com -
 * 4) eWeek (a Ziff-Davis publication) -
 * 5) Smashing Apps -
 * 6) Website Magazine -
 * 7) Venture Chronicles -
 * 8) 1b LiveBusiness -
 * 9) Wealth Junkies -
 * 10) Creative Pro -

Ubikwiti also appeared on Google and Yahoo news:
 * 1) Google news -
 * 2) Yahoo news -

Publiceyes (talk) 09:17, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll ask around. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 12:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No answer yet, I'm still asking around. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I've never heard of the company or its products, and it is only two years old, so I also would question its notability. AFD might be a good test to verify the sources, etc.  MBisanz  talk 04:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 11:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

More thoughts on the noindex question
Just to expand without turning WT:CSD into a battleground, I fundamentally believe that noindex and nofollow are a horrible way Google has generated in order to push its search index spam problems and their endemic lack of quality control onto the users and content creators. As content creators (I also blog as an aside), our job should be to concentrate on what we control ourselves, our own content. We have no influence on Google's indexing but also ranking mechanisms, we don't even have insight into how they work. Let's focus on what we control, our own content, and work on it according to established procedures.

I understand nothing ever happens in a vacuum on the internet, but things outside of our control can't be helped. If we have to let ourselves get influenced by these in our procedures, let's build a consensus to change our procedures (eg any AFD, PROD, CSD but also unreferenced BLP tag automatically tags noindex on the entire article) but until there's one, let us not worry about what might happen in Google. What happens in Google stays in Google :) Cheers, MLauba (talk) 16:17, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess my basic position is that I don't have a dog in this fight, I can't have a dog in this fight, because these days, I'm doing the majority of the non-media speedy deletions from roughly 9am to 5pm Eastern US time. Whatever the community wants me to do, I'll do. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Since you took some time out to correspond to me directly, I wanted to thank you with similar directness for your kindness and support on my RfA - the former more than the latter. It's gone through, so if you need an admin-person for anything, by all means give me a call any time! - Vianello (Talk) 02:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll do that! - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

User_talk:Dank55/Apr
I agree with your reasoning that the article does not entirely fall under the non sufficient context guideline. Normally taken i would have just watch listed it, and checked back a few hours or maybe days later. Why i didn't do that this time? About 2 hours or so earlier an article with almost the same title was already created. I assume this article should have been a redirect to that article, but i have been unable to find that article again. My conclusion? Either the article was deleted (Meaning this article would be a candidate as well), or it should have bern a redirect to that page. Seeing that the chances were low this article would develop further then the initial line, i decided to just be lazy and tag it, rather then keep searching. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, you've been doing a lot of good tagging work, thanks for your work. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hider in the House
Probably no bad thing that it was deleted, but I can't help feeling that maybe not all the content was copied from the URL mentioned and there was some salvageable content. Secondly, it was quite an old page, and we should consider that the site linked was in fact a fork of Wikipedia. Anyhow, would you mind looking into it a little? My memory of when I looked at the page a few weeks back may be flawed, and, being a non-administrator, I can't check. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 16:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Anytime someone wants to look at or work on a db-copyvio, I'm happy to undelete and replace the db-copyvio with copyvio, which will obscure the text but allow you to work on anything in the history. Thanks for having a look. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just got round to looking at it, turns out to be non-compliant fork. Still, we'll see whether we can make them more compliant with a little persuasion. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 16:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 16:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Ryan Babcock
While I was in the middle of creating my page about Ryan Babcock, you deleted it for reason A7. If I were able to complete the page, you would have realized that Mr. Babcock is an influential member of the federal courts in Georgia, as a 6 year, and current, judicial clerk to the Honorable Anthony A. Alaimo, Federal District Judge. Mr. Babcock is also a published author, having published "Republican Party of Minnesota v. Kelly: Regulating Judicial Speech in State Elections," 71 U. Cin. L. Rev. 721, 723 (2002). He is also active in the Brunswick Bar Association, and the Manna House, a well-known food kitchen in Brunswick, Georgia. I find it unwarranted to conclude that Mr. Babcock is not of enough importance or significance to include on Wikipedia. Please explain your decision.

Scott Grubman, Esq. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgrubman (talk • contribs) 19:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:FIRST for what we're looking for in your first article. I'll recreate the article at User:Sgrubman/Sandbox to allow you to continue working on it until it's ready for an article. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: CSD U1
I've moved them to the same pages but without the trailing "/" (messed up my configuration for the bot ^_^'), so no history is being deleted. Please axe them as G6 ShakingSpirit talk  19:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You betcha. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Megaholdings
I don't get it. Why did you delete Megaholdings page. There are dozens of MLM companies in Wikipedia, with the same situation. This company has over 500,000 customers around the world and it sells through people so, they want to know what is this company about. What is different about other MLM companies (like Agel)?
 * I said in the edit summary: no hits in Google news archives, no hits in Google scholar. I just did a search in Google books; no hits there either.  I'm not saying your company isn't important; I'm saying your company doesn't meet the notability requirements in WP:CORP, unless you have references that weren't in the article and that those Google searches didn't pick up. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 00:27, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Cyclone Airways
I made an entry for Cyclone Airways which you tagged for deletion. The Article is significant because it established information about the airline vis-a-vis with other airlines of the Philippines.

Researchers about airlines in the Philippines may not know until they browse the wikipedia for information. Removing the article is like denying them the information about local airlines such as Cyclone Airways which have limited information available on cyberspace. Information could be linked to their website at www.cycloneairways.com.

bedcrawl (talk) 06:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's been deleted by 3 different admins recently because we can't find any hits or references that would allow us to keep it under our guideline for notability of companies, WP:CORP. Do you have any references that would establish that level of notability? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

L'OCCITANE Foundation
You removed the db-ad tag from this article, noting that "the author seems willing to work with us". However, the author has been blocked for his promotional username, so it seems unlikely that he'll be able to improve this article. However, now that speed and prod have been declined, I suspect it will take an AFD to remove this article, or adoption by another editor to improve it. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See User_talk:Dank55/Apr. I was the one who blocked their username, just now, and I left a nice message saying that I'm temporarily declining the speedy to give them a few days to read WP:FIRST and work on the article.  I'm also about to notify WP:FRANCE.  I feel that it's appropriate to set conditions and take some time to see what direction the article is going before I act; this was discussed in the recent "it's not necessarily speedy" thread at WT:CSD.  I also don't like to delete something speedily unless I'm pretty sure that there are no or few Wikipedians who would be interested in working on the article.  I'm pretty sure from experience that no one wants to improve a sales pitch for herbal viagra.  But a French charitable foundation with an annual budget of 5M euros a year?  I can't be sure; someone might want to improve that article.  We'll know in a few days.  Also, the article creator removed any mention of contacting their company as soon as the article was tagged, and working with us is a good sign. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I come across here from WPFrance. The article can be salvageable with time and reliable sources if there is any. (See edit history of L'Occitane. How mess it was!).--Caspian blue 14:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merci beaucoup. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have now cleaned up the L'Occitane en Provence article. I think the fdn is not sufficiently notable, and is wholly dependent on L'occitane for funding that it is, to all intents and purposes, a part of the marketing for the company. I have therefore merged the Foundation article into the company after cutting out the spammy content. Ohconfucius (talk) 08:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks kindly. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of You Crate
Hello Dank55. I am writing to challenge the deletion of You Crate based on your decision of it being "G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.rlcarriers.com/history.asp") At the bottom of the page "http://www.rlcarriers.com/history.asp" we have noted that we have released the content of the page under the GFDL ("The text content of this page, titled "The R+L History" (http://www.rlcarriers.com/history.asp), is provided under the terms contained in the GNU Free Documentation License.") I believe that this addresses the first terms in the G12 that it is released under a free license ("Text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving.") I respect your advice and I would like to get this page back to "live" as soon as possible. Thanks for your time. TruckTech (talk) 15:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing, and I hope you enjoy Wikipedia. It also says "Copyright 2009" at the bottom of the page, with a link that includes "No other use of any of the content of this Site is permitted without the express written consent of R+L CARRIERS."  This means it's not GFDL.  And if it were GFDL, it's likely the article would be deleted as promotional, but I'd be willing to discuss that in our 7-day deletion process (called WP:Articles for deletion) rather than deleting it myself. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

How do you CSD this?
This page, How to use acrylic plastic, unquestionably meets the criteria for speedy deletion as it as a how-to page that would not serve much purpose when someone can just go to the acrylic plastic article, but the problem is there is no suitable CSD tag for it. Wh ip it ! Now whip it good! 18:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was just in the process of WP:PRODding it when JohnCD beat me to it. I agree, there's no speedy tag for this. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In any case, I just added a prod-2 suggesting it be moved at Wikibooks. -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 19:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Harvey Brownstone
He was a judge of the Ontario Court of Justice, a lower, provincial court that evolved from the position of Justice of the Peace. These are the equivalent of Magistrates Courts or County Courts, and judges are not "important" enough to inherently pass WP:BIO. Ironholds (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You're completely right about WP:BIO, sorry. Would you say they are asserting any form of notability that might pass muster?  If so, shouldn't we AfD instead of speedy? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. To assert notability is to either 1) have third-party refs or 2) be in such a position that it seems likely such refs would be available (the whole "inherent notability" thing). Still, up to you; you're the admin :P. Ironholds (talk) 19:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * An inequity soon to be remedied (hopefully not by my demotion). I'll ask on the creator's talk page for refs. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ehh, such an inequity is unlikely to be voided any time soon, if ever (certainly not soon. "too many RfAs" group plus "too soon since last RfAs" group? I'd be able to swim in those opposes). The creator seems to be a SPA, but good luck. Ironholds (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You have the misfortune of being one of the better test cases. Let me know next time you try WP:ER, and I'll try to wage the appropriate debate. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 20:18, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * dank, we've never supported judges at this level at bering notable. It's not even a reasonable assertion. DGG (talk) 21:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. He's also headed what seems like an important agency, and he's also published, so I'd like to give the article creator a couple of days to respond; maybe there are refs.  If we don't get a response, do you want me to AfD it? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I you think it does not get improved enough, that's the only way to get a reasonably definitive decision. Not that its all the accurate either, but its better than just the 2 or 3 of us here.  DGG (talk) 18:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This ref has been added as evidence that he's a frequent commentator in national press; I'll add refimprove and check back in a week. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, Ironholds just AfD'd, so I guess we'll get an answer sooner rather than later. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Battle
You beat me to it, actually. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  21:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

International Academy of Financial Management
Ah, I missed the part that said previous speedy deletions are ineligible for G4 deletion (it was speedied G11, blatant advertising). If not another G11, it seems like a case of A7, no assertion of notability.  RJC  TalkContribs 01:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/International Academy of Financial Management. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 02:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Future and Light for Young
Hi, I realized that you have deleted a page about an NGO working in India for education of the poor (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion). The NGO is a registered organization under Indian laws. The page should not be seen as an advert to the organization. Its about an organization working to uplift poor children and get them out of their poverty circle. Please can you help me to recreate the page. I am sure the work of such organization and the work they are doing is worthy of a mention on wikipedia. If there is anything you feel should change in the tone of the article please advice. Many Thanks--Shreyas.derashri (talk) 09:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The measure of being "worthy of a mention on Wikipedia" is not what you or I think; rather it is that the subject be notable. If this organization is notable, we can have an article, but that is defined independently, by coverage in multiple reliable sources. If you can provide links to such references, we can go from there. Even so, it would have to be rewritten objectively, so that it is related to the actual coverage of the organization, rather than looking promotional (as it did when it was deleted). Frank  |  talk  11:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Frank. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Baxall Business Centre
Hi, you deleted my Baxall Business Centre article, and after speaking to a few of you colleauges they feel maybe that is could be re instated. I asked what i needed to do to make it acceptible and they said they didnt really feel it wasnt unacceptable. If you still feel it needs changing, please could you tell me what i need to change. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjtk (talk • contribs) 14:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't have articles on office buildings unless the office buildings are notable and meet the guidelines in WP:CORP. Can you give me references to newspaper, magazine, journal or book articles about this building? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Shawn Stern
Hello,

You deleted an article about Shawn Stern who is running for U.S. Congress to represent California's 24th congressional district. I recognize and appreciate that in a system such as this it is vitally important to maintain and enforce stringent editorial guidelines to avoid abuse. Shawn is a notable person and I'd like to continue working on this article until it meets the guidelines for acceptable content. This was my first article, and I admit I came unprepared - I don't have a working copy of what I published. Would you restore this to my sandbox or to some other state that will allow me to continue editing it?

Thanks, I appreciate your help and for helping keep the standards of Wikipedia high. Cmalbright (talk) 19:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, see User:Cmalbright/Sandbox. I added noindex, please don't remove that tag. I'll check on your progress in a few days.  Thanks for your patience. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Email from User:AdlerandAllan
> Hi dan, > > I didn't realise I was breaking any wiki laws. Would it be possible for me to change my account name and keep the information of the Adler and Allan company on wikipedia?

We consider usernames named after a company and used to edit articles on that company to be promotional, so we don't allow them. Please sign up for a new username and then post a message here; I can retrieve your article so that you can work on it. See WP:Your first article for a summary of what we're looking for. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

>(More email, this time from JoeD4): Hi dan, I have changed my username now! Can you please transfer the post so i can edit and have back on wikipedia again?

Sure thing, I replied on your talk page. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Plz
Hi Dan, I made the mistake of logging on one last time when between getting home and going to bed and found this. User talk:WereSpielChequers, any chance you could pick up on this as I need to hit the sack.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  23:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 23:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dan - I'd suddenly got very sleepy and knew I wasn't thinking straight  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  18:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for assistance
I appreciate all the help getting the article Ancient Roman society to AFD. It is a mess that I should have remembered to deal with long ago....but was distracted by the illness and recent death of my mother. I was called away in July and article slipped my mind completely until it was brought to my attention recently.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:16, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. See Articles for deletion/Ancient Roman society. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

UPB article deletion
Hey, G11 simply did not apply to the article I wrote on UPB -- there was nothing promotional in the article, and it was just a stub with a factual description of what the book was about, where people were going to come and add more encyclopedic stuff. And now you've eaten up the content that I wrote.

Thanks for nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudd-O (talk • contribs) 01:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No harm would be done, I think, to undelete and take it to WP:Articles for deletion, would that be acceptable? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 01:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Troy Dean Harris
I'm just curious - is it really so important to restore a page purely to re-delete it with the technically correct deletion summary? &mdash; Ledgend  Gamer  21:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In this case it was a finger slip, I was trying to hit G12 and hit G11 by mistake. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 21:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I am trying to contact Dank55. This concerns the auto deletion of new wiki page Troy Dean Harris. It was put up wrongly - the content was not correct because it mirrored a prexisting web site. This is understood. But the page itself should not be deleted, just the content stripped so that it can be written appropriately. How to proceed? Pardon me if I am not following protocol. I am very new to this stuff. Tantidharo (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:Your first article. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Levi Johnston
Hey, see my explanation for the db-repost at the article talkpage. I should have explained it at the talkpage earlier. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 14:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I replied there. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Irwin Kula
Hi Dan, I am new to Wikipedia so I hope I am doing this right. I redid the Irwin Kula entry and it came back as a copyright infringement (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://yearnings.irwinkula.com/about.htm). But I have permission from the copyright holders of both Yearnings and CLAL-The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, to use any material on their sites. Please reconsider the entry on Irwin Kula. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Intelligenttalk (talk) 15:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:Permission and WP:Your first article. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Dan, Aliza Kaplan, Director of Special Projects at CLAL is happy to give the requisite permission for use of the copyright material. You can contact her at akaplan@clal.org. Please advise the next step. Thanks so much. Intelligenttalk (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay. Have you read WP:Permission and WP:Your first article? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 17:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: iSuppli
(copied from Danaman5's talk page) ISuppli gets 29100 hits in a Google news archive search that subtracts press releases (http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22ISuppli%22+source%3A%22-newswire%22+source%3A%22-wire%22+source%3A%22-presswire%22+source%3A%22-PR%22+source%3A%22-press%22+source%3A%22-release%22&btnG=Search+Archives); you just speedied it per A7, may I restore it? (Watchlisting) - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 03:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The article did not indicate why the company is notable, which is a requirement for avoiding deletion under A7. If you want to restore it, you will need to improve the article in this regard.  If you are able to do so, please feel free to restore.--Danaman5 (talk) 03:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I've added some sourcing that demonstrates notability. You were totally right on this one; thanks for watching my back.--Danaman5 (talk) 04:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Very nice work, thanks. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 13:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

DANK
The user "DANK" has been renamed to "DANK (usurped)". This should eliminate any confusion. Kingturtle (talk) 12:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, KT. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 17:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Business and Economics/Accountancy task force
Could you resotre this? --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 17:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ignore my last, as I believe it has been moved to WikiProject Business/Accountancy task force. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 17:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I recall, there were a lot of pages that got a similar change of title. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 17:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Campus Co-operative Residence Incorporated
Sorry, I've declined the proposed deletion. It clearly asserts notability as the oldest such co-op. Bearian (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost all of my prods are downgrades from speedy deletion, and I'm always happy if someone knowledgeable can save them. Thanks. - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 20:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)