User talk:Darryl.jensen

Welcome to my page!
Now get lost

April 2018
Hello, I'm Srich32977. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil in an edit summary. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Specifically, adding the comment buffoonery to an edit summary. ''  – S. Rich (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

A belated welcome!


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Again, welcome! – S. Rich (talk) 17:24, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Note
--Neil N  talk to me 19:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Darryl.jensen! Questions about the above “Alert”? I wrote a quick & dirty FAQ—check it out here. If you have any questions about policies or editing or anything else just ask me on my talk page :-) – Lionel(talk) 11:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of You Don't Speak for Me
Hello, I have removed the proposed deletion tag you placed on Talk:You Don't Speak for Me because you placed the tag on the article's talk page instead of the article itself. I would have no objection to you properly placing the tag on the article page per policy. Thanks, &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 18:38, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that! Darryl.jensen (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

"Consensus"
Please do not claim that there's a consensus for a change when there obviously isn't. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:32, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd say the same to you - why don't you go play in traffic Darryl.jensen (talk) 20:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ??? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Rfc at Talk:Center for Immigration Studies
Please move your comments to the threaded discussion section, the support and oppose sections are not meant to also have threaded discussion. Thansk. Doug Weller talk 17:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Deprodding of Kitty Empire
I have removed the tag from Kitty Empire, which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. Proposed deletion is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, proposed deletion is disallowed on articles that have previously been de-prodded, even by the page's creator, or which have previously been listed on Articles for deletion. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the template back to the article, but feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 16:36, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Black Hebrew Israelites
Hi Darryl.

I think that the BHIs are far too diverse for there to be any justification or reliable references for pinning anti-Semitism and other racism on the whole lot of them. Some BHI groups clearly are/were anti-Semitic but other groups have tried to build relations with Jewish groups or at least to avoid conflict with Jews. We need to mention extremism only as far as genuinely reliable sources support it. This is similar to the issues we face writing about radical Islam. Terrorism is a serious issue which we have to cover but it can't be pinned on the religion as a whole. This is primarily a matter of fairness but there are also good tactical reasons to avoid over-broad characterisations. If we write that "group X are all bad" then that can encourage members of group X who are not bad to feel a common cause with those who are as they are all being tarred with the same brush. We can actually make the very thing we are decrying worse if we decry it ineptly.

I'm not going to hand out any warning templates here but I do think that you need to be more careful that what you add to the article actually reflects the reference material and that the reference material is regarded as WP:RS. I'm not sure if your last reference was RS but, even it was, I feel you went beyond what it actually said. Specifically I can't see where you got the phrase "watchdog groups" from.

So, I have no objection to increasing the coverage of the specific BHI groups who are anti-Semitic (so long as it doesn't spiral out of control and fill up the whole article) but it has to be clear in identifying which specific groups it is talking about and not flinging accusations at other groups who, while their religious views may be unorthodox, are not deserving of that. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)




 * Hi. You may not have seen it, but the Religious Tolerance website's article about Black Hebrews is an ancient copy of Wikipedia's article (you have to scroll to the very bottom of the page). Such websites, called mirrors and forks of Wikipedia, cannot be cited as reliable sources. (It would be like consulting yourself for a second opinion.) Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

3RR
That's your fourth revert, Darryl - you're welcome to expand upon it, but either put back "anti-immigration" or I'll file a 3RR report for edit-warring. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And also you need to put back the NPR source: "So I've been seeing these TV ads that have been showing - by NumbersUSA, which is an anti-immigration group" is literally right there in the source. You clearly didn't read the article. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * To be clear, if you do not self-revert by 16:30 UTC I will file a complaint at the 3RRNB for your violation. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * In the spirit of making Wikipedia a better place, I self-reverted. I still do not believe that your sources support labeling them an "anti-immigration" group. Respectable outlets such as the NY Times and Washington Post describe them as an org that "supports low-levels of immigration" or "advocates reducing immigration levels", never as anti-immigration. I'll grant that the NPR piece does include them after re-reading it (my mistake): but its not NPR describing them that way, and that is very important for this debate. Its the opinion of the person they are interviewing. Darryl.jensen (talk) 16:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2019
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

(It's especially uncool to warn another editor about edit warring at the same time that you're edit warring with that exact same editor!) ElKevbo (talk) 13:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Considering that he was the one pushing changes without any consensus I really don't care. Darryl.jensen (talk) 13:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Yearly awareness renewal
Doug Weller talk 15:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

COI noticeboard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Center_for_Immigration_Studies Snooganssnoogans (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * get a life Darryl.jensen (talk) 17:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

July 2019
Wikipedia is a joke Darryl.jensen (talk) 19:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)