User talk:DavidWBrooks/2005 archive

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Comparing
Thank you, David, I enjoyed your note about the copy editing article. I'm mildly surprised; I thought reporters usually weren't interested in that type of thing. :) Maurreen 08:02, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

AOL
I see that you reverted my contribution to the AOL page. I do not see what was wrong with my addition, as the current America Online article fails to mention this usage of AOL. A previous version did mention similar usage; however, the article has since progressed to become "about the company" (and noting this usage on that page seems inappropriate). IMHO, the usage I noted should be mentioned somewhere and the AOL page appears to be a good place. I would appreciate it if you will give me a reason for your revert. I also posted to Talk:America Online.

-- UTSRelativity 21:40, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response. I have had the same problems with timeouts on Wikipedia so I know that it is annoying.  I understand your reasons for not wanting a disambiguation page (especially since it takes so long to get a page from Wikipedia).  I will attempt to add the information to the current "NPOV edit" on the America Online page.


 * -- UTSRelativity 03:02, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

About marking edits as "minor"
Hi, I'd like to make you aware (or remind you) that the "minor edit" checkbox on the editing page for an article is only to be used for typo and presentation corrections. As Help:Minor edit says, "any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if it is only a single word." The main article on this is Minor edit.

I've noticed that almost all your edits are marked minor, while a bit of examination suggests that less than half of them should be. Perhaps you need to alter your default on your Special:Preferences page to turn the "minor" checkbox off (its under "Editing"). Thanks for fixing this. -R. S. Shaw 04:14, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)
 * David, re your msg to me: No, I wasn't on "minor edit patrol" - I don't go in for playing hall monitor. I was revisiting an article, and it seemed substantially smaller than I remembered it, so I started looking at the history.  I didn't find the edit that halved the article size for awhile because it was marked "minor".  When I saw that the user making the change tagged most of his edits minor, I thought I should say something. -R. S. Shaw 19:47, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

strong language
discussion has become obsolete, regards, Akidd_dublin 200501281840 200501311413

Capital letters
i have not found an explicit policy at Wikipedia! it is taken for granted it would be obligatory because it is taught this way in schools.

indeed, it is just a way to emphasize, and for instruction lists it does not make any difference, as long as one applies consistency and logic. the point is that writing things in big letters looks nasty. writing in small letters is easier to read and faster to type.

i have said nothing against interpunctation.

Akidd_dublin 200501301822 200501311411

Comment Box
I believe I know how to copy my comment box and move it to your talk page, achanging it as necessary for your Talk page data. I like it becase it autmatically puts new stuff at the bottom, easier to find and less chance of screwing up earlier messages. I can do it for you a lot easier than explain it if you would like it, let me know. Vaoverland 23:34, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

new message box
Testing. If this is working, your new box is installed. I copied it with permission from another WP user who got it the same way. Hope you enoy. let me know. Mark in Richmond Vaoverland 13:43, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Ecoregions
I saw you were working on List of ecoregions and wanted to point out that while the complete list is not yet up anywhere on Wikipedia, the data is all there, but divided between the various biome and ecozone pages. You might have already seen it, and thus this post is useless, but I do hope it is not the case. Good luck in collapsing these to a single list! --Circeus 20:09, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Linking dates.
I'll consider that. I've been here about a year or two but still, I've never really thought out that. I do agree that linking dates and over-linkage gets really annoying but I didn't think anyone would notice. But the GEnie article looked a little bland, too much black text an not enough links but maybe I was wrong. Cheers! --Saint-Paddy 21:43, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

FOAF
Yeah, proper disambiguation is probably in order (even if the social use is a bit dic def-ish--enuf articles are looking for that usage it's probably defensible). I'll try to work on it when I'm more awake. Niteowlneils 19:36, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
I happened to be looking at your userpage, I believe, because I had seen the username before (and I now see it was because I posted the above Ecoregions comment), but I can,t recall from where I came... Circeus 17:46, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

The Quarrymen
Thank you for the simple but sophisticated edit of dividing the article in that way. It is a real enhancement. Good work! --Theo (Talk) 02:04, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Chuck Amato
Hi, I'm new to the world of Wikipedia. Thanks for modifying the Chuck Amato page. I tried to paraphase as much as possible from his assorted bios that I could find on the internet but might not have changed them enough. Any comments are welcome as I can see from your contributions that you're a prolific contributor.

Thanks,

Steve

Jocelyn Guidry deletion
George Passantino is a reasonably famous artist in the Southern New England area and is recently deceased. One of the important effects of an artist is to follow both his past influences (listed but not yet completed) and his ongoing effects. George Sutherland, a senior artist and student of George Passantino, is also a noted artist in Southern New England. Jocelyn Guidry is his senior student following in the same tradition. Before I can even begin to build the tree of influence of George Passantino you've begun deleting it. Why?


 * It's hard to respond to you if I don't know who you are ... - DavidWBrooks 02:49, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

David,

I'm [| Tim Daly], the author of the page. I've set out to detail the artist George Passantino who recently passed away. I'm tracing the lineage of influence backward and forward. You deleted a page seconds after it was posted. I had not yet gotten a chance to fully research Jocelyn Guidry except to note that she is related to Ron Guidry. I was busy looking backward toward George's past influence.

Please restore the page. If I don't find anything of interest in the future I'll gladly delete it. However George Passantino is, locally, a major artist and it will take some time to complete the research.

It seems rather judgemental of you to destroy hours worth of searching without contacting me first. Please take the time to at least ask before you destroy my work.

me again... I read the candidates for speedy deletion section and the criteria do not seem to apply. It hardly seems worth trying to contribute to this site if you're just going to delete work. Why not try to do some research and update the entry? I was under the impression that the key idea of Wikipedia was that people who knew more details would make the entries more detailed. Your bio does not show me why you're qualified to judge artists from southern New England and you clearly didn't take time to evaluate the worth of the entry (or your searching abilities far exceed mine).


 * I may have been too hasty; wikipedia has had a rash of vandalism lately, apparently due to the Wired magazine article, and my first assumption of the article was that they were cut-and-paste of non-notables - America, after all, has hundreds of thousands of art teachers who have had pictures exhibted at some sort of show. (This has become a real plague, with people dumping their personal Web page into wikipedia). Sometimes a bout of deleting nonsense and vandalism can be so irritating that everything starts to look like bilge, and it sounds like I over-reacted: I would be happy to resurrect the page but, oddly, I cannot find George Passantino in the deletion log. Was that the name of the article?
 * And why don't you create an account []? It makes it easier to sign your posts, so people can send you comments on articles.

Well, clearly your reading skills need polishing. I have an account, listed in the hyperlink in this same article. Note that this edit is titled "Jocelyn Guidry deletion", not "George Passantino deletion" so it is reasonable to expect that we're talking about the Jocelyn Guidry page. Further, I can easily find George Passantino by typing that string into the search box and pressing Go. Lastly, *YOU* were the one who deleted the Jocelyn Guidry page so claiming confusion about the deleted item seems disingenuous at best. Since you're clearly putting more effort into destroying and blocking my work than attempting to contribute I'll simply take my efforts elsewhere.

Being an editor is a serious responsibility and you fail to take it seriously.


 * Whoa - calm down, my huffy friend. Jocelyn Guidry page is restored, and wikified (don't put exterior links in the text, please). But it will probably get deleted soon by somebody else unless you edit it to show why she should be an article - just being a painter and somebody's cousin and somebody else's student doesn't really seem too significant.
 * And you haven't' got an account - follow your own link and you'll see it says "Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name" Try again! - DavidWBrooks 16:09, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Zope
Hey!! What's up with the whole article on Zope? You removed not only the links to the solution providers, which indeed could be classified as advertising, but also all the passages about it's major technical features, and also a lot of links to the community resources. Zope is an open source project, you know, and it *does* have a community! Alga 01:46, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)


 * But the Unix and Windows articles do have information about what's special about those systems. That was the kind of information that you deleted.  It might be technical, but there are even more technical articles here. I hope you don't mind if I edit that information back in. Alga 17:48, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)

Bozo the Clown
Hello. Regarding Bozo, sure, I'll try to add some info about the Brazilian version on the article. It's just a little difficult since I really don't remember much about that show. Pretty much nothing. But I'll try. I just need to do a small research, and then I'll add the info when I can. It looks like they had Bozo in Mexico as well, but I'm not sure yet. I'll see.

Thank you.--Kaonashi 04:41, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi again. I finally took my time to add some information about the Brazilian Bozos to the Bozo the Clown article. I'm sorry for the huge procrastination, but it's there now. Pretty much all I could gather. It seems like this subject is somewhat hard to find about in the 'Net, so perhaps I'm mistaken on some parts there. In that case, feel free to correct whatever looks wrong there. I'd be glad. By the way, I also added some small section regarding Ronald McDonald, since Bozo played a major role on the creation of that clown. Anyway, go take a look at it and see what you think.

Again, sorry for all the wait. Thank you.--Kaonashi 04:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New wiki?
Hi, David. I wonder if you might be interested in a possible new wiki about journalism. Notes are at User:Maurreen/Journalism. Maurreen 08:48, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

podcast411
David,

Please let me know what constitues SPAM on wiki. My site has no commercial content - not even a google sense ad. I offer a tutorial on how to podcast. Which to me seems to be a perfect fit to the Wki model. free info in a community. Radman compared my site to that of one that clearly has a commercial motive with ads. As I understand Spam - It is unrelated material of a commercial nature. My site is niether. Please send an e-mail to rob@podcast411. I would first suggest you visit my site www.podcast411.com to check it for yourself.

Regards, Rob W podcast411


 * I didn't call it spam - somebody else did. I called it unnecessary. See the Podcasting's talk page. I have seen your site; it's fine - but wikipedia isn't a link farm. - DavidWBrooks 17:04, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Categories
Hi there! I've heard you speak about the problems of the category system before, so please drop by at Categorization policy? Thanks. Radiant_* 10:41, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Jules Henry
Hello: I am trying to develop a Jules Henry entry here. I wrote one, today. Did you start one, too?

Thanks,

Nora Wright


 * I moved yours (I guess it was yours) to give it the proper title (capital letters, no quote marks) and proper wikipedia markup, and removed some repetitive or extraneous sentences. It's the same article - please continue editing and adding! (And maybe create an account so people can leave you messages, too) - DavidWBrooks 19:10, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm novice, here, and appreciate your assistance. Nora

Vandalism
I noticed it so quickly because the same guy vandalized my own talk page just before he hit yours. &mdash; Dan | Talk 02:14, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

a question on your edit
Hi David. I noticed you removed my wikilink from pancake to Breece D'J Pancake and was curious as to why. I assume that you assumed the name was a joke which is quite understandable. It is an odd name, but feel free to google it or look up his book of stories on Amazon. I am new here, so I may not understand the system completely, but I thought that people looking for Mr. Pancake's entry might simply enter his last name and get the pancake article, and that people interested in pancakes may also be interested to hear about someone with Pancake for a last name. I'd like to repost it, but I want to be sure I'm not out of bounds by doing so. I'd just like to hear from you first. Thanks. -Tzethus (aka Matt Vest)

P.S. -- Sorry, I posted this originally on your user page, but I reverted it. Newbie confusion...

Nevil Shute: good work...
...on reorganizing and tightening. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:05, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Deletion
I put the article Kel millionie up for VfD shortly after you deleted it, so I accidentally created the page again in the process. Can you please delete the page again? -- Deadcorpse 16:41, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Nasty Messages
David,

I would just like you to know that I have responded to your nasty message in the Community Portal under disputes.

I may be ignorant of Wikipedia, but that does not mean that I do not have coutesy. I was under a tight schedule and wanted to get the articles on and was going to go back and wikify them later.

I have wikified many articles myself and copy edited many articles myself, and I have never sent one person a nasty email.

I do not appreciate your nasty message at all and am very offended by it, which is why I posted an email in the community portal.

You may be some really great journalst, but you have a lot to learn about common courtesy and treating people with respect.

For the most part, all I have seen of people in this group is they are really critical and bitchy.

Your message has to be the bitchiest message I have seen so far, so please don't sent me any more messages because they are not welcome.

--TracyRenee 17:48, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A phrase that sets off alarm bells
From the deletion log: "deleted Brian Richmond: non-notable, incomprehensible".

Be careful. I have no doubt your judgment call was right, but a phrase like non-notable is something that should be reserved for VfD only, not as a reason for speedy deletion. It's contentious enough on VfD as it is; don't use it for speedying. Restrict yourself to reasons given in WP:CSD only. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for harassment by people who will cry abuse and happily go to WP:VfU to request undeletion for everything you speedy, and there's little you could hold against them. I don't know if something like this has happened before, but it wouldn't surprise me. As they say, prevention is better than a cure. I'm one of those people who happens to think most of our admins are not devious megalomaniacs who systematically abuse their privileges, but heaven knows there's no shortage of people who think exactly that. Let's not give them ammo. JRM 19:14, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)

Number one reason for snapping is thinking Wikipedia will collapse if you don't do your duty, and you're the only one who can do it. Relax. We are many, and we are inevitable. :-) JRM 19:27, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've found shifting work avenues does wonders for reducing one's Wikistress, especially if you do RC patrolling a lot. Copyediting FACs or checking whether a featured article is still in order is always a joy, and occasionally Special:Randompage gives you something really nice. Whatever you do, don't become an RC zombie. We have plenty of those.

Glad to help...
Just trying to keep things from escalating too far. I don't think anything you said was inflammatory; I think that the user in question is merely more sensitive to the phrasing of suggestions that the average Wikipedian. There is no way you could have known. I applaud you for not rising to the bait of her response. It is a good idea in general to avoid long stretches on new page patrol -- watching articles pile up by the minute is a good way to raise one's blood pressure and wikistress at the same time! - Bantman 22:04, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Invitation to join wikiproject business world
Based on your interests and contibutions, I'd like to invite you to join WikiProject Business world. Thanks in advance, --Leifern 19:58, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC)

The Washington Post
Why did you revert my section about "Opinions" on The Washington Post article? --Vikingstad 15:19, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, it was, as you understood, not my opinion, but the (editorial) political view of the newspaper itself. I believe this is really useful information, just look at The Economist of an example of how it's nicely done. What I added was just the little I know, then hoping someone would add more later (you know, this being a wiki and all ;) --Vikingstad 15:41, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Signpost
I hope you don't mind - I outed you in Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-04-04/In the news and Michael changed the article accordingly. I assume there is only one of us at the Telegraph. David Brooks 18:13, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

nevil_shute
Hi! Even though you are a fellow traveller libertarian, I'd appreciate it if you would reply to my comment on the Nevil_Shute talk page - I really do think that the entire paragraph I deleted is pov and should be deleted, as I explain in my comment. I don't expect to succeed without your approval, so please consider in your heart of hearts if it is really based in verifiable reality. yours truly - Johan Öhman

But...
Extra special bragging rights deserve more promenient attention. Lotsofissues 13:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edward Pease
Nice job on the Edward Pease article. Your edits improved it greatly. Logophile 16:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why delete modern examples?
Why in the world did you delete the modern examples from the urban legend page??? Urban legends are by nature modern, as opposed to regular legends.

news-stub image?
There are actually a number of missing images. My guess is the developers still do not have everything back up after the power hit that was reported on the IRC chat a couple of hours ago. --Allen3 talk 14:31, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Fairfax County
Thanks, I put it on a link from a new stub article about the school district instead, and linked that to the county. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Critical Information on Jehovah's Witnesses
OK, I have accepted that this fifth version (as a redirect) can stay. But I am a bit interested in who created the first four versions. Do you have that info?

Sorry, forgot the signature. :-( No, it is not that you edited them, but I wonder if you have access the info on who created this many times over (or who restored the content which was deleted again and again). The reason I want to find out is that I believe that it may be related to some personal attacks on a VfD debate and I am collecting evidence at User:Sjakkalle/Eyesopen. The reason I asked you is that your an admin currently logged in. Sjakkalle 13:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

pancakes pix
Hello - I am sorry that you did not like my pictures of Scottish pancakes. I did myself find them appealing and characteristic, and am sorry you deleted them. Yours, Daderot.

Joe Sparks
Hi

Why did you edit my article? I can see why "award winning" was edited out as it only needs to be mentioned once, but he really was interviewed in those mags that I listed, and Dickie and Jackie IS his upcoming show. Why edit that out?

Dan
 * I can't answer you if you don't give me a place to answer - that is, create an account. I don't know that you'll look here again. Anyway, I edited out the magazine interviews because everybody gives magazine interviews - they were not notable enough to be mentioned - and I edited out upcoming shows because wikipedia doesn't write about future, not-yet-happened events. - DavidWBrooks 00:50, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm. Ok. I put in the magazine interviews though, so people could make sure that they knew he was at least well known in the industry/know he is of significance, since not many people have actually heard of him (well, not many people I have come across, anyway). But I suppose many people do give interviews, yes.

Dan

Votes for deletion/Freifunk
Article has been rewriiten by User:Sven-ola. I have replaced my delete nomination vote with a "no vote". Can you reread to reconsider or affirm your delete vote? Sjakkalle 08:07, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Podshare
Hi, David. I found your name over and over on the podcasting article, and thought I'd get your advice. I ran across this article today, and hoped you'd take a look at it. Clearly, what is there is an advertisement and plea for funds for Richard Vobes and his show. It's easy to see what needs to come out, but I'm not familar enough with podcasting to know what needs to be put back in, or whether podsharing is significant enough for its own article. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. Joyous 15:27, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. It's frustrating to see that something is blatantly wrong with an article, but not know what to do to fix it.  Joyous 17:23, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Red Sox record
You might be fighting a losing battle. I've seen some other teams' articles where fans are updating their teams' current won-lost record almost on a daily basis. They would be better off simply posting a link to the current-standings page on mlb.com or some such. Wahkeenah 06:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The San Diego Padres, for example. Wahkeenah 06:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And the Los Angeles Dodgers. Wahkeenah 06:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

italics for quotes
Hi. I'm not sure I agree with your deletion of the italics in Lenna &mdash; all the articles I've came across that contain quotes have them indented and italicised, and I haven't seen a complaint of illegibility yet. Just wondering... Dewet 21:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Certainly. Here are a few examples (that I've picked out of my contributions): Virgil Fox, Nelson Mandela, Mobcasting, Afrikaans Language Monument.  I also generally prefer to leave off the quotation marks, since the quote is obvious from the typesetting. Dewet 09:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Katie Graham's tittie
Ah, Didn't see that. Oops. john k 02:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can only take credit for finding the map, but thanks! Mhking 18:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Paper Birch / White Birch
I used the Paper Birch link because that leads to the correct page (Paper Birch being the name used by the USDA); White Birch leads to the European species Betula pubescens, which isn't the NH state tree. If you think it should be called White Birch (or more accurately American White Birch) in NH-specific instances, then use a piped link American White Birch. 'American White Birch' is already listed as an alternative name at Paper Birch. - MPF 10:30, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I did it already on the NH page when I saw you'd gone offline :-) MPF 18:06, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fifth World Article
Just wanted to tell you someone arbitrarily took out the Fifth World nations paragraph in the article about the Fifth World, and any reference to the Fifth World Council, even though both are very real, and actually some members of the Council are registered or incorporated International Organizations, Intentional Communities, national Cooperatives and other Organizations.

If I revert the edits, all I'll get is the same. You are a journalist, and I would think that if an International Organization like the Fifth World Council is significant, resourceful, and intelligent enough to run its own public Top-Level Domain (pTLD), something North Korea is not capable enough to do, I don't believe we are talking about the usual micronation. Even still, is Atlantium, a micronation, more real than the Fifth World Council?

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I hope you will do something against this obvious bias, which is neither helpful to the Wikipedia, or those seeking the truth and objectivity within its web pages.

[mailto:5wc@cyberterra.com Cesidio Tallini]

Podcasting page changes
The radio station podcast section you moved to a separate page last month seems to be creeping back, minus the U.S. stations. I tried summarizing and shortening, moving details to the list page yesterday, but most of my work was reverted... apparently because I wasn't able to log in as myself that day.

What do you think? Should the list be an "early adopters" history page, primarily listing radio stations that started podcasts before January 2005? One comment suggests it should simply be a list, but I have the impression that's not Wikipedia style. (Same reason the podcast list page was removed.) In any case I think a few more "firsts" belong on the main page. But I don't think I have much time for this...

cheers, Bstepno 5 July 2005 05:57 (UTC)

speedy delete
Why did you delete List of largest suspension bridges/no link yet? It was created to serve as an external link dummy location for List of largest suspension bridges. The text is an error message. Go to List of largest suspension bridges and click on one of the numbered external references to see how it is used. I left a comment on the talk page explaining what it was. I'm guessing that you did not understand why I created it? What should I do to keep someone else from deleting it? I left a note to admins on the bottom of the page. Also, please see the discussion here. -- Samuel Wantman 06:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. If you have any suggestions for a better way to do what I'm trying to do, please let me know!  This is the best that I've come up with so far.  A better solution would be the way it was before with [http://] generating a numbered link.  But since that mysteriously stopped happening, and the list needs to be autonumbered and some of the numbers have real links, this seemed like the best solution.  -- 21:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Re:
Ah, I didn't remember it being policy, but I can see why it would be have been useful before things like edit section was introduced. Joe D (t) 18:06, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

"dablink"
It's one of the many "disambiguation link" templates. They're mainly used to help robots navigate the site for automated cleanups. Here are a few of the more common ones, along with what the wiki expands them into:
 * For other uses, see Foo (disambiguation).
 * For other places with the same name, see Foo (disambiguation).
 * This article is about the year. For other uses, see 1949 (number).
 * This article is about the plant species. For the band, see Foo (band).
 * This article is about the year. For other uses, see 1949 (number).
 * This article is about the plant species. For the band, see Foo (band).
 * This article is about the plant species. For the band, see Foo (band).
 * This article is about the plant species. For the band, see Foo (band).

The last "dablink" template is a catch-all for disambiguations that don't fit the others.

Apollo Theater
I do feel that this article is a stub. It lacks key information in the founding of the theater. Also, the events that lead to its current fame are necessary before it can no longer be considered a stub. Aznph8playa 08:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Hans I.
Think there's a misunderstanding at play, David. I actually stuck in a line into the lead para about the territory dispute for the exact same reasons as you state yesterday, it was reverted out by User:Kmsiever, I reverted it back, and juduging by the log it evidently got removed shortly after that again, again by Kmsiever. Anyway, I think we're on the same page here. -The Tom 19:57, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

=
============================= Why the heck do you guys keep trying to delete the CartooNOVEL page?

There is a bonafide media source and is a valid addition to Wikipedia. The newspaper this article was published in is the 2nd largest English daily in Malaysia and serves 429,000 readers a month, google it and see. So now close to half a million people have been exposed to the term CartooNOVEL. I am simply documenting a historical fact.

You guys keep messing up the page layout as well, please have some consideration for the work of others.

Thx, PRpoet

John Small, Sr
Just to say thanks for pointing out the convention for seniors and juniors. I must admit I did wonder when I started the article and then went for a best guess. ;-) --JohnLeach 12:38, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Maine town meeting
Thanks for cleaning up the Maine town meeting article. I had posted something quickly when I discovered the blank section. --Sentience 03:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Marmite/Parwill
That explanation is, in this America's opinion, WAY overkill ... "ma" and "pa" are very common US expressions. - DavidWBrooks 22:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


 * This is regarding the following pair of sentences which I added to the article on Vegemite: "the product was known from 1928 to 1935 as "Parwill", in a convoluted play on words; advertising slogans suggested that "Marmite not like the taste, but I'm sure Parwill", utilising the British Commonwealth use of "Ma" and "Pa" as synonyms for "Mother" and "Father" (or, in American usage, "Mom" and "Pop")".
 * Whilst it may appear to be overkill - and I would rather kill something stone dead than let it rise again, and again - it accounts for the fact that many English speakers are neither British nor American.-Ashley Pomeroy 22:50, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Making Nashua into an Featured Article
Hi, you and I seem to be among the heaviest editors on Nashua, New Hampshire, do you think we'll ever be able to bring it up to Featured Article status? Karmafist 01:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I work piecemeal, so i'll try to add things here and there towards getting a featured article somewhere, i've never had one before. Apologies on the accidental double entry, it came from clicking on that "leave a message" thing on the top. I had never used that before.


 * Also, are there any other journalist Wikipedians around this area? I honestly don't know if I count, I got a B.A in Journalism from Keene State last year, but I want to run for office up here in Merrimack, so that's made things tricky. So far, i've been a part timer for the Cabinet out in Milford, but that's not much. Karmafist 21:19, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Re:Cabinet
Cool, I'll be in there next Tuesday or so, i've only written a few things so far, so i'm mostly just an "e-mail it in" guy, but I need to talk to Joe and Mike about checks. I've heard rumors that they or the Telegraph might have a full time job in a section other than news, which would be great, but all I can do now is hope and continue to plug away.

I'm sure we'll see some more Granite State Wikipedians soon, i'm still the only way I know of in Merrimack, but this place is growing so fast. Speaking of which, have you checked out the Wikiproject for Decency vfd? It's at nearly 200 votes now. Amazing... Karmafist 21:47, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Freelancer
The trim you made removes the point of the sentence. I was trying to say that when you are a freelancer there is a danger of becoming a work-a-holic and not making time for fun. That your working hours extend past normal hours is normal since you determine them yourself.--Kim Nevelsteen 16:05, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds good. Cheers.--Kim Nevelsteen 16:14, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

3 laws
You didn't like them? I thought they might fit into the article, which is more or less a spoof, anyway... --Janke | Talk 16:31, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, agreed! --Janke | Talk 16:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Twenty mule team
I couldn't find a better stub than tech-stub. Ideally, I'd have prefered something like transport-stub or vehicle-stub, but those don't exist and I couldn't find their equivalent by another name. Caerwine 20:18, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

moving Route 101
In responding to your comments: First, I did cut and paste the text, but it was to a prexiting article. While I probably should have read more indepth about the proper method of moving articles, I thought merely redirectly the old article to the new one would suffice. If I only redirect the article does that still delete the talk page? Second, since I moved the article to the prexisting article, which had the New Hampshire state highways category (the one I redirected didn't). I changed the bold title in the article to reflect how other NH highways are listed. However, it seems redundant to have "New Hampshire State Route 101" when New Hampshire doesn't have any county road, thus there is no distinction that needs to be made. I would assume that since the actual name of Route 101 and the other state roads aren't listed or named officially or conventially using "state" (that I am aware of), all the titles within the articles could be changed to reflect such a change. Since you are an admin, being more knowlegable than me about such Wiki-related things, would you be okay with me changing all the roads in the category to reflect the change I am proposing? Or is there a process for making such a change? I appologize for my oversight on Wiki-procedure, and thank you for bringing this to my attention. Assawyer 17:48, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Duels (band)
Hi there, this was the first page I created, so still wet behind the ears, but not sure why you trimmed the section you did? Fallingman 17:39, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Fred LaRue and Dram Shop
I stumbled upon your work concerning Fred LaRue and was surprised that you bumped into me on the Dram Shop page. This suggest to me that the community of people who edit Wikipedia must be smaller than I thought.

I tend to have interests in the political, historical and legal subjects, all of which easily lend themselves to people with political agendas, myself included. For example, go read the article on global warming. There is a huge battle going on over there. The ease at which one can get annoyed with other editors, to flame and alienate others in this medium is a hazard.

Considering you are a journalist, I would think Wikipedia would be a bit of a busman's holiday for you. I must say, it is a bit addictive.

Durrell vandal
I blocked the new IP too, but I was wondering if it wouldn't be best just to lock the page for a while. What do you think? Guettarda 14:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

thanks for the tips
thanks for the info - I had no idea how to make the time/date appear. (Appalachiangirl 12:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC))

Re: blocked anon
That's easy: I travelled back in time to leave that message after I blocked him in the future :P Hmm, seriously, I noticed a couple of times in the past few days that Wikipedia seems to have acquired some dificulty with handling dofferent time zones; the dtae stamps on my comments are regularly off by a couple of hours, even though my system time is correct and the correct time zone is set in my preferences. I also noticed that there's sometimes a difference of 2 hours between the time that is displaed for an edit on my watchlist and the user's signature...but anyway, it seems I blocked the vandal a couple of minutes before you, I decided on 24 hours, but 48 hours is absolutely fine with me. Not that that will keep him from vandalising for too long, but still... -- Ferkelparade &pi; 14:34, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Waymarking
- * Waymarking.com Eventually, all non-physical caches are going to be moved to this site. Waymarking is of interest to geocachers. Do you geocache? evrik


 * Wikpedia doesn't links to sites that require premium registration: These are informational links, not promotional. If conditions change, perhaps waymakring will become a legitimate external link. By the way, if you're going to leave messages, you should create an account so I can answer. - DavidWBrooks 18:58, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Half-birthday
I'm changing it to "mid or late November"; no reason we can't have it both ways. (On the other hand, my sister's birthday is November 25, and she's always careful to separate her birthday celebration from Thanksgiving. After all, one has to be careful to get one's minimum yearly requirement of both pumpkin pie and birthday cake!) --Angr/undefined 16:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

remove long, pointless list of repetitive podcast directories, which have been tossed before.
Whee, thanks. I wanted to do that, but didn't have the guts. --fvw *  13:48, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Salaam alaykum Mr.Brooks, I am a " Nanticoke-Moor"(we are really Ruma (Andalusian Moors in the service of Ahmed Al-Mansour in the jihad of 1590-1591)/Tuareg from Timbuktu )as well as Delaware-Lenape/Nanticoke. It is very offensive to people like myself and my family,who suffered a lifetime of prejudice while "race traitors" like the Melungeons "passed" for White. It is nothing less than outrageous that while researchers like myself go about our business quietly Bent Kennedy gets on his soapbox and literally sucks all the air out of the room. It's truly unbelievable to me that these people who don't look any darker than ordinary White people are passing themselves off as "people of color". My family is every shade of the rainbow - we actually look like North Africans and South Asians! I just wish people would write about something they actually know instead of rehashing the old "white lies".

Ma'salama, Meena

P.S. The "Turks" were really Beni Hillal Bedouin pirates in the service of the Ottoman Empire and the Ben Ishmael Tribe were descendants of Moulay Ismail's "Black Guard". And there's more...I have my own research to back this up as best as can be done considering the state and place of many of the relevant documents. I hope this answers your questions.

Admin?
Are you an Admin yet? Do you want to be? Just curious... --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 09:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, you are. OK, nevermind.  Ignore.  --JOG

Spoo

 * Speaking as somebody who read Li'l Abner but never saw Babylon 5, my first thought is that the latter was likely influenced by the former, which should be in the spoo article - what say you?

This was discussed in peer review a while ago and the result was to put it into the article; it is in the related articles section below the references. The reason there is not a more definitive connection is that there is zero evidence to support any connection in the first place, aside from the base similarities in name and color. J. Michael Straczynski, creator, executive producer, and writer of almost all of Babylon 5, and the creator of Spoo, has always been very open and direct about his influences. Since the late 80's, he has been interacting extensively with his fans and science fiction fandom in general, online, so much so that fans have archived over 17000 of his messages in searchable databases. Not once has he ever mentioned Scmoo, L'il Abner, or Al Capp, and the reference seems outside his previously acknowledged frame of reference in his works, which is usually ascribed to religions and mythology of all sorts, and classic science fiction and fantasy. If JMS were to ever draw a direct line between the two, I'd happily put that in, but as it is, anything more would be frank supposition. Thanks for checking out Spoo! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 09:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

gerald durrell article
hello,

thanks for preserving the g.d. article from vandalism all this time. i was updating the article, but cannot find a complete list of his expeditions. would u be having a source or idea for this?

Pradiptaray 23:45, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


 * No, I'm afraid I don't. I'm not quite sure where to find it perhaps on one of those tribute pages? By the way, we don't need to lin Lawrence Durrell the second time he's mentioned in the article - just once is enough. And why don't you complete making your account, so you'll have a wiki Talk Page where messages can be left? - DavidWBrooks 00:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


 * No, they dont. Maybe the Best of Gerald Durrell has something, I remember it having lists of something. But then again it may be just the bibliography. Sorry about the Lawrence Durrell link. I wasnt aware of Wikipedia policy, but I would have thought, the denser hyperlink the better. But I guess this policy allows one to link Lawrence Durrell once, and just Durrell the second time. I ll start up my user page too. Pradiptaray 17:13, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Joshua A. Norton
Hello,

I was wondering why you deleted this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_A._Norton

I was in the process of reverting it to its previous state. I'm not sure how to re-instate this page (relatively new user)

Michael

[[Joshua A. Norton]== ==

I think you deleted this by misstake. I have restored it.Geni 14:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Followup on Joshua A. Norton
Oops! Nevermind, I spoke too soon.

- Michael

Hyperlinks and bots
I think it might be a good idea for Wikipedia to have user specified hyperlink showup. i.e. only a subset of the total hyperlinks in a page showup. Some "modes" could be:
 * All
 * None
 * Only the ones which are connected only from the present article
 * Only the less connected articles ( these would be "relevant" ) to the article in question.
 * Only the most connected articles - the "safest" and most visited and trusted articles.

Thresholds could be user defined or a test on graph theoretic metrics to determine feasible levels.

And .. I believe Wikipedia should have trolls for vandalism detection, and even for suggesting internal links, and (maybe) suggesting removal of wrong links ( as in nondisambiiguated links ).

Who shapes Wikipedia policy ? How do I suggest ideas there? - Pradiptaray 20:57, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for Your Help At The Cabinet The Other Day
After the inroads to the potential job opportunity at the Telegraph and the tour of the linetype machines, I figured I should give you a barnstar. Unfortunately, it was eaten by a bear(pictured to the right) who also apparently has eaten my career. Let's hope he decides to throw up soon, eh? Mike Cleveland said he'd get back to me on the job around Friday, but so far nothing. I've got to talk to him on Monday regardless on the West versus Concord game, so wish me luck there. As for the Pheasant Lane Mall, I didn't see your note on the Nashua Talk Page, but it probably wouldn't have made a difference in my attempt to Be Bold, you know as well as anybody that notability and POV is a grey area, and my standards for notability on New Hampshire related articles is lower than most peoples' since this is where I grew up, it's part of who I am. I'm something of an Articles For Deletion regular on both sides of the fence, and i'm not afraid to fight for my articles. Speaking of which, I should also inadvertantly thank you since it looks like i'll have to update my user page. Like you, I mark pages I created on there, but I have a separate section for pages I created that have been merged into something else, which fits Route 101 now. Karmafist 07:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Telegraph and nearby AHL teams
Hi. I think there's a disconnect between me and Karmafist in regards to the Nashua Telegraph and its relation to Lowell Lock Monsters and Manchester Monarchs. He mentioned you, do you think you can chime in? REF: User_talk:Karmafist and User_talk:Ccwaters. Thanks. ccwaters 20:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Nicknames
I hadn't either, the URL is: http://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/fastfact.html Assawyer 01:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I am of the same opinion, maybe there could either be a footnote attached, or just include the other nicknames somewhere in the article. Assawyer 02:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Ditto on that, adding it now. I've heard of three of the four, but not the "Mother of Rivers", it sounds like we're the world's leading producer of Tampons. Also, thanks for reminding me, I used to see Lock Monsters/Monarchs scores every now and then in the Telegraph, but it wasn't a big deal, that's what the guy above was talking about.

Also, would you like to join WP:NH? You don't have to do anything in regards to it, just having your name presence would help us out. Wish me luck, i'm supposed to hear back from the Eagle Times out in Claremont sometime this week. karmafist 09:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

commentary
(moved from the front page ... Nov. 30) Hey, Thanks for submitting our page for deletion. I mean, yeah. It was TOTALLY bothering yours, wasn't it? Thanks a lot, asshole. -Rabbit Film Company
 * You're welcome.

Hoax vs. Conspiracy
I do think the example image I am using also works for hoaxes as well as conspiracies because the author's name is "I. Killdm" which is meant to be slightly parodical.

I considered doing an image of a book titled "Proof Hitler was really a Jew" and some silly name but I thought people might not get the parody effect. If you've got a better idea for something that would on first glance be fairly clear as a hoax I'd be interested. -- Paul Robinson 16:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the image you gave of the Cardiff Giant gives a clear example of something obviously a hoax or something that would make the point of one by looking at it. What I want is something clean and simple, and potentially either obvious or obvious after looking for a moment. Perhaps something like a gold coin reading "Emperium Julio Cæsar, mintiūm 140 BC"  Paul Robinson 17:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think you quite 'get it' yet and it may be because I'm failing to make myself clear about the idea behind the concept for a picture to represent the term 'hoax'. If one looks at the Cardiff Giant photo it says nothing unless you have a caption to explain it. The image I put up,you got 'conspiracy' immediately - nothing more needed - so clearly it works well for conspiracy. What I want, if that image is inadequate for 'hoax' is something that, without requiring additional text, provides a simple, clean example which immediately speaks out 'hoax' or is close to doing so. Again, consider some image or photo that in and of itself is either obviously a fake or a fraud, is clearly known as one, or should be. Like maybe an image of a $1 or $20 bill only in the denomination of $3, for example. Perhaps with someone else's picture? -- Paul Robinson 18:18, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Speedy AfDs
Just a reminder that when you speedy something that's gone to AfD you need to close it as well. Otherwise MathBot will report it as open, and admins who are looking to clear the backloag will have to load the page up to see that the job's done. This one is done now, though. - brenneman  (t)  (c)  14:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Your reversion of List of songs about suicide
You "reverted" the article List of songs about suicide, removing the listing for "Killing Time" by (HED) p.e. It is in fact a real song by a real group. See the lyrics here. The song and group's albums are available on Apple's iTunes. So, I'm not sure why you reverted and called the edit vandalism. The previous "Killing Time" entry with a different artist was not verifiable. ERcheck 16:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking it out and returning the reference. ERcheck 00:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

A New Hampshire Stub Is Up For Deletion!
Hey, just wanted to let you know. A stub that assists people editing New Hampshire related articles is up for deletion at WP:SFD. karmafist 04:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It's basically about New Hampshire-stub redirecting to NewHampshire-stub, just in case if you spell it wrong or something, you don't have to worry about an edit preview or doing it all again for one little thing. I don't understand the problem with that, do you?

It's ok if it breaks some kind of "policy"(currently policies are made by whoever talks to the most people and whoever makes enough of a stink about things, apparently. I'm running for the arbcom to try and change that.), that's what WP:IAR is for. I don't know about you, but having that would be so useful when i'm stubbing several articles in a row while doing other things where I might forget what's in my clipboard.

Anyway, I hope things are well over there. I might quit everything else and try for a freelance 50/50 with Van Fleet and the Cabinet(Pat says the door's still open) very soon. I'm losing hope in everything else, although last night the Manchester Democrats said they might have something. karmafist 15:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

From your comment on the vote on this stub redirect I think you may have mistaken what is being voted on there. is a redirect to the stub template. Only the redirect is being considered for deletion, not the template. The redirect has been nominated because it contradicts the naming guidelines for stub templates. Caerwine Caerwhine 17:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Please Help
Hi David-

Do you have any suggestions on how I can make the deleted "Alcohol and Teenage Brains" a summary of research evidence insted of a personal essay?

Copyright isn't a problem because I hold the copyright to the source

Many thanks. David Justin 22:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Sapiosexual
Hi. You speedy deleted Sapiosexual before, but I've talked to the creator, and that interaction ensures to me that was a good faith attempt at an article. In any case, I've undeleted it and placed it on AfD, and you're welcome to take part in the discussion at Articles for deletion/Sapiosexual. Thanks.--Sean|Bla ck 02:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Rollback
Could you be more careful in what you revert? Your recent revert to Longest word in English re-instated some earlier vandalism. --Carnildo 20:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't see what vandalism I reinstated by rolling back the "buzz lightyear" goofiness in Longest word in English. - DavidWBrooks 20:31, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Right up at the top of the diff is a newbie test: "i love you". It's under the heading "Official longest word" --Carnildo 08:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Amon Amie Management & Entertainment
why was it deleted, it is of the upmost imporatnce to the latin/afrinca community. maybe soo the the WHITE world Daivd.Amon Amie Management & Entertainment

Thanks for deleting my enquiry RE: commercial advertising, and it is very interesting to note that you have confirmed my suspicions. The very broad idea of "corporations of note" certainly favours big record labels. Indeed, their heavy web-presence makes verifying the half-truths and wild, commercial exaggerations in their press releases as simple a task as turning to that other great corporation, Google.

I am not complaining that I lost the debate on GS's single advert page, in retrospect given that I am up against her e-team and her professional marketing people, how could I win?

I am asking for clarity that in fact Wiki is open to abuse from Public Relations teams. So far I see little evidence to the contrary.

One clear way to stem this abuse would be to outlaw individual pages for commercial products such as current singles. This information could quite easily be stored in their bio. I have yet to hear a single argument against this suggestion, let alone a valid one. --HasBeen 09:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Biffeche
Hi, I've done a complete rewrite with references and am requesting people who voted to have a look at the new version. Thanks. Dl yo ns 493  Ta lk  16:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)