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Reliance of the Traveller
Hi Dayirmiter, I just wanted to let you know that I have removed the detailed content list you added to Reliance of the Traveller because it's far to long and detailed for an encyclopedic article. I am sorry about this, I'm sure it took a while to do. You're welcome to try and write a brief summary of the different sections but it would need to be in prose, not just a list. Sarahj2107 (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

minor edits
User:Dayirmiter: thank you for your edits but please reserve the "minor edit" flag for truly uncontroversial edits. Regards CapnZapp (talk) 22:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * By implication, I gather that you felt the edit was not uncontroversial? If so, I am happy to discuss - or just to understand in what way you might think it so. I'm interested to know. I honestly am somewhat surprised but willing to learn from your perspective. Thanks for your interest. Dayirmiter (talk) 23:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please mark as minor only edits that are truly trivial and uncontroversial... and non-complex. Edits where you immediately understand nothing changed. Edits that really should escape the notice of others. In contrast, I had to concentrate for minutes to double-check you hadn't accidentally made an editing error that changed the meaning of the text. That is not a minor edit. That said, I hope you understand I do not contest your edit or accuse you of any real wrongdoing in any way. In fact I thank you for improving Wikipedia. Have a nice day CapnZapp (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I understand. Thank you! Dayirmiter (talk) 06:41, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Your email to me
I got your email concerning Help:Edit summary. Please note that I do not discuss Wikipedia matters off-wiki, except at organised meetups, since I believe in transparency. The proper place to make those comments would have been Help talk:Edit summary. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 11:57, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit on Michelstaedter
I will not disagree with you that text referring to Michelstaedter's illness was incomprehensible. However, it is an important detail that I did indeed provide a source for, and it is from the most official sources, that of Sergio Campailia, who discovered Michelstaedter's works and ever since has been a curator of them all. This was discovered only recently and thus all information on it is only in Italian http://espresso.repubblica.it/plus/articoli/2016/11/08/news/michelstaedter-la-mobilitazione-per-salvare-la-soffitta-del-filosofo-1.287541

Good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philopsychia (talk • contribs) 14:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Correction in a page
Sir, In the citizen amendment act, it is mentioned that India was a secular constitution in 1950, which is wrong, India become secular under late Prime Minister of India, Indra Gandhi, in 1976. Please correct the needful as it just spreads misinformation and people believe whatever Wikipedia spreads. Sarafkunal2409 (talk) 19:35, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Sarafkunal2409: If you can provide a source for your assertion, I would be happy to help correct the article. Thanks for your input. Dayirmiter (talk) 19:45, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * User:Sarafkunal2409: I have learned that the first sentence of the 1950 constitution declares India, among other things, a secular republic. See the document here. Dayirmiter (talk) 10:04, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Sir I would request you to read the 42nd amendment of constitution which was the only amendment which sought to modify preamble of Indian constitution after which the words secular and socialist were added to preamble. Sarafkunal2409 (talk) 10:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * User:Sarafkunal2409: I see that you are quite correct. The 1976 Forty-second amendment did substitute 'for the words "SOVEREIGN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC" the words "SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC"'. I am willing to fix the statement in question - which on inspection I've found has other problems as well - but I'm curious why you would not do it yourself. Is that something you would care to tell me? Dayirmiter (talk) 06:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

It won't
take long to get your editorial privileges revoked, shall you indulge in whitewashing our articles. &#x222F; WBG converse 09:52, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * User:Winged Blades of Godric: I recognize that you mean to be threatening and, thanks to the alert supplied below by User:Kautilya3, I understand the method by which you mean to be threatening. I do not, however, understand in this context the reason given, i.e. "whitewashing". Would you please explain? Thanks for you your attention. Dayirmiter (talk) 03:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)


 * OED notes one of the meaning of whitewashing as a deliberate attempt to conceal unpleasant or incriminating facts about a person or organization in order to protect their reputation. Your removal of the massive criticism of the act (and derivatives thereof) from the article lead, under some flimsy pretexts fit the definition. &#x222F; WBG converse 08:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * User:Kautilya3 Thank you for the above alert. I was not aware of any of this.
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Please do not collapse citations
As for example you did this month on John Brown (abolitionist). When I am editing an article, it slows me down to find a chunk like this: citation|last=Filler|first=Louis|title=John Brown in Ohio. An Interview with Charles S. S. Griffing[...]

It is far more legible and easier for me to work with if it is left as (br added for proper display here): citation
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 * title=John Brown in Ohio. An Interview with Charles S. S. Griffing[...]

On articles you work on frequently make them as you want them, but with aomething like this, that I work on frequently and you only rarely, I am asking you not to make my work more difficult. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * deisenbe: Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you on this. It appears the "collapsed" format is a function of the Visual Editor. I can see how the separate-lines format might be preferable but I can't say I'm willing to switch into source mode and edit by hand in order to achieve it. Maybe the maintainers of the Visual Editor could help with this? Dayirmiter (talk) 15:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I never heard of the visual editor, or if I did I've forgotten. I edit almost everything by hand. I'd appreciate if you would take this up with whoever it should be taken up with as I'm pretty sure they don't want to hear from me. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 15:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * deisenbe: What do you mean in saying you edit "almost everything" by hand? How do you edit when you're not editing "by hand"? Obviously not wp:VisualEditor.


 * And why do you say "they don't want to hear from" you? I don't know who that would be, actually, but why wouldn't they want to hear from you as well as me or anybody else? Just curious. Dayirmiter (talk) 17:38, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Sometimes I use bots. Especially recover dead links one. I suggested you would be better because you use their product. I never once looked at wp:visualeditor, that I recall. Didn't know it existed. deisenbe (talk) 20:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Requesting some copy edit help
Greetings, I am looking for some copy edit help in the article Draft:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault if possible. Thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 02:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * User:Bookku: I have a couple of questions:
 * 1. How did you pick me to receive the above request?
 * 2. Do you edit using (a) VisualEditor only (b) wikitext editor only (c) both VisualEditor and wikitext editor?
 * Thanks. Dayirmiter (talk) 13:39, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@ Dayirmiter, thanks for seeking clarification.
 * 1. In brief: I selected your ID to make request from recent changes thinking you were active doing copy edits to random articles.
 * Little longer explanation if you have further doubts: I work on many information gap areas mainly in humanities and women's rights/ issues. Usually I need two types of help one is for expansion and second one is for copy edit when article draft reasonably worked on. For expansion related help while seeking help usually I go two ways one of them is I look for significant contributors in history of similar article but most times this one is not useful since most of them are retired blocked etc though I try it religiously is very less useful practically (I do list articles on project talk pages too but many projects are not active enough or women's projects focus mainly on biographies so response for non biography articles remains less than expected). Second is 'related changes' from projects, or categories if some has made significant contribution. This category I request for copy edit also. But to find substantial contributor that too non IP from related changes is long drawn repeated attempts over many months. (Pl note even for expansion request I send even to those who may have different outlook than my own for sake of maintaining neutrality)
 * For already in main space copy edit request usually I make @ copy editor board.
 * But article and specially drafts still under development I have to find out copy edit help from those who have copy edited similar articles as I said earlier. (Also due to my limited hold on English I need copy editor support a little more than the native English language speakers). The second is few copy edit help requests like yours this time I send finding some experienced user, from recent changes, who is active with random article copy edit of the articles, this helps maintaining neutrality aspect from side. Since such users are already making copy edits to random article usually they mind less for such request. No doubt few among them seek clarification the way you are seeking. So in brief I selected your ID to make request from recent changes thinking you were active doing copy edits to random articles. (And also had a positive expectation due to your positive write up on your user page),  May be I write down this detail explanation on my user page so I would not need to write every time afresh and less clutter for users like you.
 * Few users do not like such sudden request, if this has caused you any inconvenience then I would sincerely apologies.
 * 2. Mostly 98 percent I use as you see as you edit VisualEditor only that I find more convenient for referencing and ease of editing . When I get totally stuck and browser does not co operate I open up Wiki code editor but usually I find it bit confusing one and I use it less.
 * 'Last but not least; pl. do not feel I am targeting Pakistan only. Even before this one I have been working on Indian case Draft:1969 Rabindra Sarobar Stadium en masse sexual violence controversy It is moving slow because of very old and paywalled sources. And also do not feel I target developing world I equally note down gap areas and sources from developed world and work on them as I sources accumulate and I get time.

Please feel free to point out my mistakes, if any and or inputs. Wikipedia is collaborative project, help I always seek. Thanks and warm regards &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 14:52, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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These are good edits
This attempt to tighten the lede is appreciated. BusterD (talk) 05:34, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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Nice job rewording The Urantia Book
Hi @Dayirmiter just wanted to say I like your improved language in The Urantia Book article's opening. I'm closely affiliated with a nonprofit associated with The Urantia Book and so I don't make edits. But I do so appreciate a good wordsmith and active Wikipedians like youself (a WikiGnome, perhaps? haha) Cheers Brad606 (talk) 17:08, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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You beauty!
That's Australian for "great work and thank you."

I really appreciate the fix ups you did on the new article about Alliance for Responsible Citizenship.

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 * You are very welcome. Thank you for your kind words. Dayirmiter (talk) 02:45, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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