User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered/Archive 8

Side comment
Formation is French for "training", hence the confusion: somebody whose first language is French, might not notice that. Mathsci (talk) 20:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Aha! Good point, thank you! DBaK (talk) 23:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

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Reverting edit.
Dear Disillusioned,

I don't mind at all that you reverted my edit. I'm just used to it being called "drunk-driving" and have never heard of it being called "drink-driving" before. Furthermore, I'm still relatively new to being an editor on Wikipedia, and in all honesty, it's quite confusing and disorienting to navigate, so thank you very much for linking some more articles for me to read through to improve my future edits. Once again, thank you very much for correcting me and I'll be sure to read through the articles you linked.

Kind regards, Mae. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maerenneburg (talk • contribs) 19:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Mae, I am sorry it's taken me soooo long to reply. I'm including a ping to because I am not quite sure how this new(ish) Reply feature works. Thank you so much for the lovely message; I'm glad I helped a little; yes this place is a confusing nightmare at first ... but don't worry, it gets much easier after the first decade or two! Good luck with your future editing, and all good wishes DBaK (talk) 22:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

April
after Easter and resilience, now dance and singing, peace doves and icecream - Freiheit! to listen to, including closeup of the trumpets announcing it. (The livestream has it all, safety announcement, speeches, intermission ... but there's a good legend to find the symphony movement.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh how lovely, thanks Gerda! DBaK (talk) 09:42, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * "This is tomorrow calling..." (from 1977, lol). Check out the brass on this beauty. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * another Ukraine day today: Maks Levin DYK, expanding Kyiv Symphony Orchestra (have tickets), and creating Anthony Robin Schneider, the bass who could be heard opening the singing in Beethoven's Ninth twice on 10 March 2022, live in Frankfurt, Germany, and recorded in Auckland, New Zealand, singing "Freiheit!" (freedom) instead of "Freude" (joy), in a tradition started after the Fall of the Wall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Dove sono (Where are those happy moments ...?) - concert with Kyiv orchestra and Aleksey Semenenko (quite a story!) tonight, Symphony with war and peace in the subtitle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ... and now you can listen: (that's 25 April in Dresden, a different violinist, but the same program) - ours pictured here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for all this lovely stuff! I don't know what I would do without your updates. And that is a fantastic concert picture, thank you. Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Ode to Joy
"If it did not happen, it cannot be cited", but in the case of Ode to Joy and the rejection by the Peace Movement at large, it is a case of significant and clear lack of interest or allegiance.WhiskyOrVodka (talk) 05:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi and thank you for the message. I honestly think that this would be much better discussed at the article's Talk page, here: Talk:Ode to Joy. That way you will potentially get both more scrutiny of the idea and more help implementing it, whereas if we discuss it right here, on my Talk page, we will probably not get very far since we both already know what the other one thinks! I haven't changed my view and I don't think you have, so it needs more eyes on it. Thanks, best wishes, and happy editing! DBaK (talk) 07:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Band in a Box revisit
You wrote me a nice note about Band In A Box a while back. The article was recently drastically edited by an unregistered user whom I believe has removed good parts of it including sound files, believing the article was too promotional was probably written by a PR agent of the company, which is untrue. Would you mind taking a look? Best, Eagledj (talk) 01:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC) Note: moved from my User page. DBaK (talk) 22:09, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi – I'm very sorry I failed to reply to this till now. You had accidentally left it on my User page, which I don't look at that often because it is (I am) so boring! But here I am now, and here we are ...
 * I don't follow BIAB that closely (apart from rather loving it and swearing at it when I can't figure out how to use it properly!) but I will try to have a look at this situation. Or maybe it is OK now? I will try to pop in and have a look, anyway. Please don't hold your breath against my (ahem) heroic intervention, though – Real Life&trade; has a horrible way of interfering with my ever-so-important "work" here! Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:29, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * See Band-in-a-Box talk page-- I think the issue has been resolved. Thanks for your reply Eagledj (talk) 23:10, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thanks! DBaK (talk) 07:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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09:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

May songs
today performances in Ukraine - for Ukraine - for peace, at the bottom an imaginary set of eight DYK --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always, in music and spirit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Awwwwww thanks – lovely to have the reminder, even though I am a bit less active these days. Thank you so much DBaK (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * May Flea treat for you, from yesteryear. ...and why do always think of this donkey?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * today more pics, and should this woman have an article? - or only her sons? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * today Melody (not by me), and more pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * a strong woman --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * blue: today saw my pic of the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra on the Main page - blue light for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * related: Ukrainian peace music is "on" today, with the conductor! - Pentecost (on last Sunday and Monday in Germany) brought a rich harvest of great music in two church services (one with me singing in choir) and two concerts with my brother in the orchestra, - four pictures I took besides the symphonic one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles in June! My song collection is especially rich, look, and the hall where I first heard DFD, Pierre Boulez and Murray Perahia. Do you find the baby deer in the meadow (last row)? --

John Hooker
Hi - John Hooker was my stepfather and was organist and caretaker of Union Chapel from 1973 to 2002 - so that is the correct spelling of his name, rather than John 'Rooker'. I've therefore edited it in the Wiki page. Hope OK - Kind regards. 90.192.251.84 (talk) 15:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

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SC
Hi DBaK, thanks for the message. I don’t pick stuff up myself, but a friendly stalker pings me a note when something of interest is left. What’s up? What error have you seen in one of ‘my’ articles?! If you reply here, I’ll pop back shortly to read. Cheers - SC, editing from 2A00:23C7:2B86:9801:E160:3432:925D:975C (talk) 20:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Absolutely not an error – just a rather mundane usage query! I'm halfway through communicating with you elsewhere, thank you, and will  (or won't)  be back here as required. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

12 July
If you are able to get there, it would be fantastic to meet you. KJP1 (talk) 22:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I am trying ... it is a tricky day but let's see how I do. Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:58, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I was so glad you could make it. All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 22:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Me too, thank you – it was delightful! Cheers DBaK (talk) 07:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Copland, follow-up question
DB&A: A follow-up question about Copland, if you don't mind. I've heard different reports about how "difficult" Copland is to play. For trumpet, what would you say? I guess it depends what level you are at too ... maybe you are with Boston Symphony, in which case no doubt his stuff isn't too hard? Maybe for non-pro players it is more of a challenge. My viola nephew finds his strings a challenge sometimes. Thanks for your thoughts ... Friothaire (talk) 14:46, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh, what an interesting question! For trumpet I would say moderately challenging but nothing unreasonable. I think there's little or nothing to worry a pro player. I honestly don't know about his string writing but his brass stuff seems quite idiomatic and well-researched – that is, it works well, is hard enough to make you feel you earned your money, but doesn't make foolish demands. The Fanfare is a case in point: it is challenging to make sure it is beautiful, together, in tune etc but there's nothing to keep a pro player awake at night and anyway they have all played it 673 times! Hope this helps, cheers DBaK (talk) 20:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Vivaldi
Finally: Vivaldi. I didn't find anything scientific but at least a decent program note. Please check if you could anything from there, such as what you see in the score. That can be used. What do you think of the new external link? - I made a DYK nomination, because I had to. A good ref for that it's Vivaldi's only trumpet concerto would be nice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * (sorry about the restructuring, hope you don't mind) ... Hi – I have only a rather weak ref for it being the only trumpet concerto – please see the ITG section on the Talk page. I will try and look at other stuff. Is it being his only tpt concerto so obvious that it is one of those The Sky Is Blue things??
 * The programme note is not bad – I rather like it! – but it is less academic than I had hoped. I don't mean to sound rude but I am not a fan of the cutesy language like empty the plumbing. I will expound on this if you like but the short version is that the slow movement usually needs to contrast, and natural trumpets are unsuitable in various ways and are often (but not always) omitted. We don't do a lot in the slow movement of Brandenburg 2 either! Getting water out of it is trivial and routine and commenting on it doesn't add anything. Again I will continue to look for better refs.
 * The new EL to the Thai university PDF is not up to scratch and, with all due respect, should be omitted. I also think it violates the programme note's copyright or something very close to it.
 * Sorry, I feel like I am sounding grumpy, negative and tactless! None of that is intended ... I am a bit up against my commitments and more than a bit knackered (see username) and I'm just trying to say helpful stuff without apologizing every 10 seconds. I really, really wish I could just produce some brilliant sources for this ... they must exist! Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * no problem, - I'll be away for a few days recharging --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! So will you mind if I do get round to some editing or would you prefer I leave it to you? I’m honestly easy either way. DBaK (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Do some editing! - Pick a YouTube for external links, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Fabulous, thanks! Enjoy your recharging days. :) 13:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC) DBaK (talk) 13:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Gerda, I have moved all this to the article Talk page as I realized I should pursue it more there than here! DBaK (talk) 08:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian Melody
today: violin solo and you can listen Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

yesterday I attended a unique concert - the 18th Thomaskantor after Bach conducting - and with some good luck caught him happy afterwards! - Getting closer to the Vivaldi for 2 trumpets. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

... and another 14 July: Voces8, pictured - I have a FAC open, in case of interest --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh brilliant, thank you so much – going to look now. Cheers DBaK (talk) 21:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * today: birthday music for a friend, after hiking in the Swiss Alps and a funeral with flowers on a bench and a Rilke poem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Concerto for Two Trumpets (Vivaldi)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I think you are right
My other source, Fallows' Mandell Creighton and the English Church, OUP, 1964, capitalizes von throughout, e.g. even Louise Von Glenn daughter of Robert Von Glenn ... I don't want to go that far, considering there is a WP article on her. Also, I'm not sure if the modern radar about these things had existed in 1964 when Fallows wrote his book. But thanks for setting the surname right at beginning of the sentence in MC. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  00:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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