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Kurt Cobain
After having reread the policy No original research, I don't think my edits to the Kurt Cobain article qualify as original research. Common knowledge does not normally require a citation around Wikipedia, and I stuck strictly with common knowledge in my edit about the Kurt Cobain hairstyle, except perhaps for the mention of Thom Yorke. Someone will probably say that WP:BLP requires a source for saying that Thom Yorke sports a Kurt Cobain hairstyle, but the mentions of physical appearance traits that can easily be verified by a picture generally haven't caused demand for sources on Wikipedia, even on lists -- see Black hair for an example. I can probably dig up sources in books, magazines or newspapers for celebrities who have this hairstyle if you really want them. Khemehekis (talk) 08:47, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do. I don't think we should be commenting on that sort of thing in an article unless a source has also done so. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 17:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to BladeRunner talk page
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 * I guess we can discuss this further when your block is lifted. DonIago (talk) 23:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
That edit of mine that you reverted...I'm assuming from your edit summary, you're referring to the part about redirected links? I reinserted the links to Peter Dubois, even though I think it's silly to keep them since that article was redirected and totally unnecessary in the first place. As for the other part of my edit that you undid, I left that out because that too seemed excessive since none of the other cast members are identified with their roles in the Plot section. Shaneymike (talk) 16:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed that you made other edits that were covered by my revert. I agree that including Harold Innocent there wasn't good, especially as no other cast members were listed in such a manner. However, you inappropriately linked "throwing" all by itself to Defenestration. Defenestration isn't throwing in general. You should have linked the entire phrase, but I would argue that it's unnecessary in general. How is it relevant what the technical term for throwing a person out a window is? Peter Dubois definitely shouldn't be linked since that would just be a circular link in any case. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 16:43, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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Dancing in the Street 2017
Grateful Dead released a single of a cover of "Dancing in the Street" in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_discography#Singles --BenStein69 (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to add that information to the article and then re-add the category, but you shouldn't just add the category when the article says nothing about a 2017 release. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 17:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Where is it?
Regarding your claim that "current consensus is against including", can you tell me to where this consensus was decided? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * While "current consensus is against including" is probably a slight misstatement of the situation, it does appear that there's no consensus for including it at this time, as a reading of the edit history on the article shows that multiple editors have been removing it. At that point the prudent course of action would be to initiate a Talk page discussion. I would suggest it be initiated by those who feel the information should be included so that they can provide their rationale. DonIago (talk) 17:32, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * It was removed in September without any explanation after being in the article for years, and no explanation was given in further edit summaries as to why it doesn't belong. That's really not a consensus at all, and it ought to be restored until clear reasons are given for its removal and a clear consensus to remove it is reached. - BilCat (talk) 18:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but might I recommend, if you haven't already done so, being sure to restore the original stable text rather than any possibly inappropriate permutations upon it? Sorry if that sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to do your job. DonIago (talk) 18:10, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I realized there was an earlier version after reverting your edit, and have since restored the older one. The newer version was definitely problematic, but it was the older version that was removed first in September. And I do appreciate the suggestion, as we're all volunteers here. - BilCat (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 18:30, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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Advice on film submission
Hi there,

I am not quite sure how to go about resolving my issue but saw you on the volunteer list and wondered if you might be able to help. I am submitting an article in which I believe meets the requirements for an article about a film. However, I have been declined by two users claiming that my references are not adequate and that because the film has not garnered wikipedia's examples of awards listed such as Academy Awards etc. that it does not meet the standards for a film submission. The film has in fact won notable awards of excellence in filmmaking, but, I believe the users are not knowledgeable enough within the film industry to understand or know that. I see there are many many films on wikipedia that have not won these top notch awards or any awards at all, but somehow the film I've chosen to submit is not deemed as wikipedia worthy. I also have one user who has disagreed with the previous declining of my article stating that my references are up to par and I was wondering how I go about getting someone else to dispute this or get this article approved. So far, trying to discuss this with the users who have declined me on their talk page has resulted in not much of a response to my inquiries. If you could be of any assistance I would greatly appreciate it as I was never expecting to have any issues and I am not well-versed in how to navigate disputes within wikipedia.

Thanks,

Filmfan67
 * ...Where to begin...
 * Firstly, you can sign posts by using four tildes (~) at the end. That will work better than signing manually as you did here.
 * Secondly, it appears that you may have had or have a conflict of interest with regards to the film you're trying to add...or otherwise, your first username may have been poorly chosen to suggest neutrality. Assuming you do have a COI, I don't think you should be creating the article at all. If it satisifies the notability criteria, then in time someone else will create it.
 * Lastly, by "notable" awards, do you mean awards that have Wikipedia articles already? Because for our purposes, that's how notable awards are defined.
 * In any case, based on my reading of your Talk page, you have yet to establish that reliable sources have discussed the film at length. This would include detailed reviews, discussions of behind-the-scenes production details, etc. It's hard for me to say much else about that when you haven't actually mentioned any sources here.
 * Put another way, even if a film won the Academy Award for Best Picture, it wouldn't be appropriate to build an article about the film here if no sources discussed it at all.
 * Hope this helps. DonIago (talk) 04:08, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Animalympics
Where did my edits go on Animalympics page? There are existing links in the article pointing to other imitated celebrities such as Barbara Walters and Jackie Stewart. Yet my links are removed w/o explanation by you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.26.192.124 (talk) 23:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Please note that new Talk page threads should generally be posted at the bottom of the page. Also, you can sign your posts by adding four tildes (~) to the end of them. Thanks!
 * Your edits were reverted because it's inappropriate to implicitly suggest that a fictional character is based on a real person without providing any sourcing to establish it.
 * The other linkages were also inappropriate, and I have removed those as well. To make such a claim without sourcing is original research.
 * Cheers! DonIago (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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New Page Reviewing
I notice that you have the "administrator someday" userbox. Reviewing new pages is one of the best ways to develop experience needed to successfully wield the mop. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  10:00, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thinking of me! I'll look into it! DonIago (talk) 16:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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