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Flagicons in boxing records are gone per RfC on flagicons in boxing record tables
All boxing records are to have their flagicons deleted. Have fun.CaPslOcksBroKEn (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, this is great news. Thanks! I thought someone would have pinged me, given that I have rubbed so many flag fans the wrong way. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thor
I hate to be suspicious, but there's a brand-new account that showed up on the Thor article right after your block of Odinson. They do not seem to be causing any trouble so far, but since they are focused entirely on Thor's powers and verbose in the edit-summaries, and Odinson was socking... I can't help being a little suspicious. BOZ (talk) 12:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So one problem was a wide range, but I managed to narrow that down to two smaller ones. Drmies (talk) 14:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Kanan Stark
Hi, I truly think re-listing Articles for deletion/Kanan Stark for further discussion (for the second time now) is completely inadequate since no one is voicing their opinions on it. Though the article may rely on few sources here, here and here it should stay afloat since it's a stub article and still has a lot of "In-universe information" to be added to it which can also use sources from other angles such as sources implicating protagonists like Tommy Egan and James St. Patrick since they crossed paths multiple times within the series, reason why such information isn't added yet is out of the fear that article may be removed while being improved. Please reconsider, Thank You! Neo the Twin (talk) 01:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It doesn't appear that Drmies relisted this, they just adjusted some formatting. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ., please see this. But you're right; it's time to cut the knot. Drmies (talk) 21:27, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Did you know &hellip;
[[File:Korean barbecue-Samgyeopsal-07.jpg|thumb|right| 'Twas bacon ! bacon ! all the year !  'Twas hog through cold and heat ! 'Twas bacon ! bacon, everywhere !   And every bit to eat ! I lived on salt ! My father's fault !   And be his memory meet !

"What draughts of fire, my pangs require !  What 'drench' shall drown my grief ! The grog-man gets my living, and   My liver, too ; in brief The autumn brings me many a fall,   The summer no relief.

"And now I'm prematurely old !  My hair is dead and dry, There's neither glow upon my cheek,   Nor gladness in my eye." He ceased to speak, and down his cheek, A tear drop rattled dry ! &mdash; let Ticknor's be a caution to you, Doktoro.]]
 * &hellip; that that "North Carolinian magazine" was the very The Land We Love that I mentioned the other day? ( page 513)
 * &hellip; that his horse was named Kitty? (ISBN 9780813162645 page 60)
 * &hellip; that he once watched a cow and calf, a table, two chairs, a handle-less coffee mill, a pan with holes in, and some soap, being sold? (ibid.)
 * &hellip; that the setting for "The Virginians of the Valley" is taken from William Alexander Carruthers's The Knights of the Horse Shoe?
 * (&hellip; that, for that matter, Carruthers's tale lost the word "Golden" between magazine serialization and book?)
 * &hellip; that he regretted being unable to "knock to shivers / the house of Rivers"?
 * &hellip; that having previously commended apples, after the Civil War he proposed that grass was Georgia's future?
 * &hellip; that Paul Hamilton Hayne told Margaret Junkin Preston that he was "[s]uch a fellow for 'quips' and 'Quirks' and odd 'pellets of the brain'; for grotesque phantasies and preposterous puns"? Uncle G (talk) 23:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I wish I was retired already. In short, no. Clement Eaton never popped up in any search. I certainly did not mine Brockman for tidbits, but clearly I should have. I keep running into them knights; they're in Beechenbrook also, and seem to be linked to Turner Ashby in that poem. Where is Maislinger's book? It's a thesis, no doubt--all I get is a bit of preview, but it's serious: she accuses Ticknor of adding an "unnecessary" stanza to the Giffen poem: ballsy! Poor Preston is all but forgotten: she didn't get to play in Paul Negri's anthology of Civil War poetry, or in the more recent anthology by Faith Barrett and Cristanne Miller. I'd like to have both, BTW. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If it helps, there is at least one other source pre-dating Maislinger, albeit not as firm about this. See .  You're right.  cite thesis it is.  Uncle G (talk) 01:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately my JSTOR doesn't have MLQ. Here's another rabbit hole, one I'm avoiding! Curtis Carroll Davis published an astonishing number of journal articles, and plowing through his articles will keep a Wikipedia in residence busy for a full term--and it would considerably beef up our coverage of Southern writers and culture of the 19th century. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If you find out who Clement Eaton is, Doktoro, please add the hyperlink to Francis Orray Ticknor. Uncle G (talk) 12:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

&hellip; about little magazines of the South?
{{divbox|brown|| It has been argued that little magazines in the United States that are associated with universities are not truly encompassed by the term, but the majority view amongst scholars is that they have similar enough purposes, formats, and contents to unaffiliated magazines in the genre that they can be considered little magazines also.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=443}} Historically, they were both devoted to social issues, literature, or critical inquiry, and edited by amateurs.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=443}}

The traditional characteristics of a little magazine are a {{convert|5|&times;|8|inch|cm|1}} format, a two-colour cover, and a semi-annual or quarterly publishing schedule.{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|p=445}} Literary magazines that do not qualify as little magazines include Oxford American and the Lindhurst Foundation's Doubletake, measuring {{convert|9|&times;|12|inch|cm|1}}, having complex 4-colour covers, and having bi-monthly publishing schedules.{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|p=445}}

In the U.S. South, post-bellum little magazines had non-commercial ends, generally seeking to inform and to influence their readers, rather than being marketed for profit, a skill which their amateur editors generally lacked.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|pp=443–444}} English professor Bes E. Stark Spangler traced four main phases of the post-bellum pre-World-War-Two little magazine in the South.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=443}} Immediately after the Civil War they mainly covered Southern topics and the works of Southern authors; changing at the turn of the 20th century into more critical views of Southern letters and life by new young scholars, becoming voices for the advent of modernism in the 1920s, and finally in the 1930s entering into the debate over the future economic prosperity of the South on the side of agrarianism, having heated debates with what they viewed as Southern "liberals".{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=443}}

Examples of the first phase, which were a significant factor in keeping the genre of Southern letters alive for the two decades after the Civil War, include Daniel H. Hill's 1866–1869 The Land We Love, which widened its readership by including agriculture and military history alongside the literature; W. S. Scott's 1865–1869 Scott's Monthly Magazine; Moses D. Hodge's and William Hand Browne's 1866 Eclectic (later to be the 1869 New Eclectic after its absorption of The Land We Love and finally changing to Southern Magazine in 1871); De Bow's Review, an ante-bellum magazine revived briefly in 1866; Albert Taylor Bledsoe's 1867–1869 Southern Review; Mrs Cicero Harris's 1872–1882 The South Atlantic, which like The Land We Love augmented literature with science and art coverage; and the 1882–1887 Southern Bivouac, which was one of the last little magazines to be devoted to the Lost Cause. {{sfn|Spangler|2001|pp=443–444}}

The second phase, which was a reactionary movement amongst young scholars in Southern colleges and universities that was criticial of the South, and which was discussed in the contemporary essays of John B. Hennemann, is exemplified by William P. Trent's 1892 Sewanee Review (which Hennemann was later to edit), which would inflect John Spencer Bassett to found the South Atlantic Quarterly in 1902.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=444}} Both Trent and Bassett were professors, at the University of the South and at Trinity College respectively, and Bassett in particular was risking his job by publishing as his magazine directly addressed racial issues in the South and reform, something that was toned down by his successor editor Edwin Mims.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=444}}

The early years of the third phase saw The Westminster Magazine founded in 1911 and affiliated with Oglethorpe University; Stark Young's Texas Review affiliated with the University of Texas, which relocated to Southern Methodist University in 1924 and changed name to Southwest Review under the editorship of Jay B. Hubbard; the 1921–1926 The Double Dealer; and John Crowe Ransom's and Robert Penn Warren's 1922 The Fugitive published by the Vanderbilt University Group.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=444}} Other influences for the Southern Renascence were The Lyric and The Nomad, both of which had brief lifetimes in the 1920s.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=444}}

As young writers from Vanderbilt, the Double Dealer, and others later took up postings in other universities, they would in turn found or edit other magazines; Crowe going on to edit the Kenyon Review and Ransom together with Cleanth Brooks to found another (1935) Southern Review.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=444}}

In the final phase, both established magazines like Sewanee Review and the new 1930s little magazines took to the debate on whether the South should remain agrarian or should embrace industrialism.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=445}} Also in the 1930s they were associated with New Criticism.{{sfn|Spangler|2001|p=445}}

Sewanee Review is now the oldest Southern literary magazine, with other long lived magazines from second quarter of the 20th century including Southwest Review (1915), Virginia Quarterly Review (1925), Southern Review (1935–1942, then from 1965), Georgia Review (1947), Carolina Quarterly (1948), Shenandoah (1950), Nimrod (1956), Southern Poetry Review (1958), Crazyhorse (1960), Southern Quarterly (1962), Hollins Critic (1964), Greensboro Review (1966), Cimarron (1967), Southern Humanities Review (1968), New Orleans Review (1968), and The South Carolina Review (1968).{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|p=445}}

The second quarter of the 20th century saw the founding of many little magazines in the South, from Appalachee Quarterly in 1971 through The Chattahoochee Review in 1980 to Five Points in 1997, still devoted to the core little magazine subject of literature: including short fiction, poetry, book reviews, and creative non-fiction.{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|p=445}} Like The Land We Love did in the 19th century, 20th century little magazines still received vastly more unsolicited literary contributions than they published, Atlanta Review for example reporting in 1997 that it received 12,000 submissions for every 100 pieces published.{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|p=445}} Thousands of such magazines existed across North America by the close of the 20th century, most not fully supporting themselves and subsidized by state or federal grants, and endowments from universities, colleges, and foundations; sometimes with unpaid staffs.{{sfn|Ravenel|2001|pp=445–446}}

Lack of Lanier problem!
Doktoro, I am unable to relate broth or stock to the works of Sidney Lanier. I found a book which puts stocks under soups and explains that broths aren't reduced whereas stocks are. But that's a at Hogwarts, and I can find no evidence at all that the professor is related to Sidney Lanier. Cengage Learning publishing some Lanier study guides seems to be the closest connection. The Book of Soups in the Bible is no help whatsoever, making no mention of whether Brothestant or Stockolic is the True Church. Furthermore, I cannot reliably connect Lanier to soup. Likewise, Isabella Beeton, the well-known Pommiepedian source, just sits on the ecumenical fence and says "stock or broth" over and over. Anyway, this is Lanier; so I turned to Yankeepedian sources. Whilst the University of Alabama Press can wax freely on moonpies, it is too afraid of engendering civil unrest to take a position on stock and broth, from what I can find. And the University Press of New England is obviously using some sort of search engine optimization to get some book on cranberries to come up in a search for stock and broth. All that it had was a recipe, when I looked, and it wasn't by Lanier. So, again, no help whatsoever. Perhaps your lurkers can find professors settling the stock or broth question. I just have the Hogwarts one, so far. Uncle G (talk) 09:16, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, you came to the right place--because some of the people who frequent this place know EVERYTHING about food and stock. Personally, I still can't figure out if I should buy the Publix brand broth or stock. But! I just made some bread in a turban-shaped cake mold (turned out very nice), and we're making ribs. And with that, I think I should return to the Die Hard marathon... Drmies (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * "Holly!" Consider yourself lucky. I get to render an opinion on what the  is. Uncle G (talk) 02:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Does Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents count as bacon-related? All of this is distracting from the work of asking "Did you know &hellip; that Francis Orray Ticknor's most famous poem was published in The Land We Love, a post-Civil War little magazine?" Uncle G (talk) 04:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Where is Harold McGee when we need him? How about this entry quoting McGee: ? Geoff &#124; Who, me? 17:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Or from the Master himself: "On Food and Cooking", Harold Mcgee, 2004, Scribner, Page 600 -  Geoff &#124; Who, me? 17:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * So I implement a change following your suggestion, look through the article to clean it up, and this is my thanks. I want to see you eat this. Drmies (talk) 20:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There goes the time that I had for South Atlantic Quarterly. Uncle G (talk) 11:11, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * And no, I already wrote up an ALT hook for Ticknor, including your peachy stuff. Drmies (talk) 21:29, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Luckily there's no long tail here, Doktoro, as otherwise it could lead to a medium dead English Professor. And we all know that Modern Literature is an invention of the greetings card companies.  "Did you know &hellip; that Francis Orray Ticknor's most famous poem was published in The Land We Love, a post-Civil War little magazine of the kind studied by Frederick J. Hoffman?" Uncle G (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

User 99.252.42.107
Hi Drmies I just want to let you know that User 99.252.42.107 might be or potentially vandalizing The Timeline Of The Covid-19 pandemic July 2021 he has been removing references from those pages and writing words without punctuation any advise. S201050066 02:27, 5 April 2022 UTC.
 * OK, but that was two days ago? Hey, please put a link to your talk page in your signature. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

South Atlantic (magazine) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, South Atlantic (magazine), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * One has to laugh. Did you know &hellip; that Carrie Jenkins Harris, editor of South Atlantic, once solicited Paul Hamilton Hayne for a freebie? Styling herself "Mrs Cicero W. Harris" in the magazine, her husband Cicero had been editor of the Wilmington Morning Star and then of the Wilmington Sun before taking up a job for the Goldsboro Messenger in 1877, with Harris remaining in Wilmington to found the magazine.  Uncle G (talk) 16:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * UnitedStatesian, please stop this. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * UnitedStatesian, please stop this. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * UnitedStatesian, please stop this. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Confusing the Canadiaians
Talking of more citations: {{divbox|brown|| {{confused|Carrie Jenkins Harris}} Carrie Jenkins Harris was a 19th century Canadian novelist, who was born and lived in Nova Scotia.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

She was born some time around 1858–1860 to (probably) Elizabeth Vincent, and Henry Harris of Grand Pré.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} Both of her parents were Methodists, but she herself is recorded on the 1881 census as Anglican, and on the 1891 census as Baptist.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} Born on a farm in the Annapolis Valley, she was still living there with with her (by then widower) father and elder brother at the time that she published her novels, even though the blurbs for her novels said that she was from Wolfville.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

She wrote and had published five novels, four of which were printed and distributed locally by James J. Anslow of Windsor, resulting in her not gaining widespread recognition, despite her own efforts to self-publicize, including donating a copy of her first novel to the lending library run by L. Fairbanks in Halifax.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

The first novel, Mr Perkins, of Nova Scotia; or the European adventures of a would-be aristocrat, was published in 1891 and as the title suggests was about a character named Tom Perkins who ventures abroad from Nova Scotia to London and Paris and encounters confidence tricksters and an indifferent British aristocracy concerned only with its own interests.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} It was well received by the Wolfville Acadian, until, that is, the publication of her second novel, which led the Acadian to revise its opinion of the first novel downwards, claiming that the second had sophistication of invention that the first had not had.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

The second novel, A romantic romance, was published in 1893 and took up themes of romantic fidelity, international travel, intelligent women, and the Gilded Age, that Harris was to continue into her final three novels.{{sfn|Davies|1966|pp=447–448}} Again, the protagonists were Nova Scotians from Grand Pré who went abroad to New York and Boston, and the story is that of a romance overcoming an initial confounding caused by a false letter and a lovers' misunderstanding, ending in marriage.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

Her third novel, Cyril Whyman's mistake, was the only one not published by Anslow.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} It was, instead, published by William Bryce of Toronto in 1894; and is the tale of two lovers from Digby, Nova Scotia whose romance is disrupted by their own weakness of character, and by deceit, who go abroad from Nova Scotia to Victoria and the Cariboo.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} The intricately plotted tale ends with the characters on a return visit to Digby, made newly prosperous and having entered the steam age and gained electricity.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

Her fourth novel, Faith and friends, was published in 1895 and is the tale of two young lovers from Nova Scotia who go abroad to the West Indies and Boston before eventually reuniting years later on a rover boat in America.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

Her fifth and final novel, A modern Evangeline, was published in 1896 and in a nod to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's 1847 tale of Evangeline is the tragedy of one Evangeline Mortimer from Acadia who pursues her lover from Grand Pré abroad to Cape Town, finally catching up with him only to have him die in front of her.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} In consequence, she enters a convent to minister to the poor.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}} In another nod, the protagonist at one point mocks how many places and things around Grand Pré are named Evangeline.{{sfn|Longfellow|1999|p=23}} English Professor W. J. Keith at the University of Toronto dismissed the book without reading it, based upon the word "modern" in the title alone, as "I very much doubt if it would seem modern to us." in a discourse on modernism in Canadian literature.{{sfn|Keith|1991|p=93}} It was part of a fad of tales about the Acadians in the final decades of the 19th century, that included Charles G. D. Roberts' The Forge in the Forest, Edward Payson Tenney's Constance of Acadia, Grace Dean Roger's Stories of the Land of Evangeline, and David Hickey's William and Mary: A tale of the Siege of Louisbourg.{{sfn|Creelman|2015|p=255}}

Copies of her books are exceedingly rare, although they have been transcribed to microfiche and ware available from the Canadian Institute for Historical Microreproductions.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=448}}

Harris died, unmarried, in 1903.{{sfn|Davies|1966|p=447}}

Resumé
For what it's worth, these are not by Robinson but are about Robinson. Further reading, I would say. One of the others has already been used as a source. Uncle G (talk) 04:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

revdel request
Can you revdel this talk page entry? Thanks in advance. Binksternet (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

The entire state of New Jersey owes me some articles.
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 * Special:WhatLinksHere/South Atlantic Quarterly

Public reception
After their return, the astronauts went on what was called the "Giant Leap" tour, visiting 23 countries in 38 days. Starting in Mexico City, where they donned sombreros and were given a second parade, their tour took them through South America, to Spain, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Germany, England, and Vatican City. After a rest in the U.S. embassy in Rome they went on to Turkey and Africa. In Zaire, Buzz Aldrin leaped over the barricade between him and some entertainers and joined in with their dancing.

Missing from the tour was Hungary, which rejected the United States's invitation to host the astronauts. Relations between Hungary and the United States were strained at the time over the non-return by the U.S. of the Crown of St Stephen.

Stamps
Many countries have issued stamps commemorating the mission.

The United States issued a US$2.40 stamp commemorating the 20th anniversary in 1989, a stamp for the 25th anniversary, and a 33&cent; stamp commemorating the 30th anniversary in 1999. The 20th anniversary stamp caused some concern when it was issued, as the law forbade living people from being depicted on stamps, and the image was of two astronauts planting a U.S. flag on the moon. However, it was never actually officially stated by the USPS that the figures were specifically Armstrong and Aldrin, and not just generic astronaut figures. Other stamps issued included a 10&cent; stamp on 1969-09-09 showing an astronaut descending a ladder from a lunar module, and the US$9.95 anniversary stamp issued in 1994. The 1969 stamp art was by Paul Calle, the 1989 art by his son, and the 1994 one by both.

The postal service of Eire issued a commemorative €1 stamp for the 50th anniversary in 2019, but mis-spelled the word "gealach" (Gaelic for "moon") as "gaelach" ("Irish"), an accidental transposition during design that was not caught in proof. The USPS issued two 50th anniversary stamps as part of its "Forever" collection, one a photograph of the moon with the landing site marked, and the other one of Armstrong's pictures of Aldrin.

The astronauts themselves had, before the mission, signed what were called "insurance covers", stamped envelopes that were essentially life insurance in the form of memorabilia that family members could sell off in the events of the astronauts' deaths. This practice would continue through to Apollo 16.

Armstrong and Aldrin also cancelled a commemorative stamp whilst on the surface of the moon. Originally, they were to have done this reciting pre-scripted dialogue that had been supplied by USPS public relations. But the supplied script was lengthy and stilted, the Washington Post commenting that it would have lasted "for the better part of one orbit of the moon" and resulted in "a veritable barrage of phone calls from a flabbergasted public", and NASA decided that the astronauts had enough to do; so the stamping was without ceremony.

Songs
The first song played from the surface of the moon, chosen by Aldrin, was Quincy Jones's and Frank Sinatra's version of "Fly Me to the Moon". The BBC had used a hurriedly re-recorded version of David Bowie's "Space Oddity" for its news coverage of the landing, but did not play the song again until the mission was over, because of the way that the song lyrics ended.

Movies
Contemporary movies that did well because of the public's interest in the moon landing were 2001: A Space Odyssey, Barbarella, and Planet of the Apes. However, aside from one 1996 TV movie named Apollo 11: First Steps on the Moon, which combined original NASA footage with staged action, as of 2011 there had been no major Hollywood movie about the Apollo 11 mission.

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Request for Rangeblock
While patrolling the recent changes, I noticed you blocked a certain IP address starting with 2600 for disruptive edits related to Coldplay. However, if you check this user's IP range, you will find that someone using that IP address has been making similar disruptive edits for a few years. Should a rangeblock be put in place? Painting17 (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, maybe--I don't know. I would need to be convinced that and, for instance, are improper. Sure, likely the same person--but for a longterm rangeblock we need to build more of a case, and as long as there are unreverted edits, and as long as reverts of that IP editor are not always well explained, then admins will have a hard time concluding that it's warranted. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

VGP05
Well, that's that. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lurkers and Doktoro, you can point to User talk:VGP05 if this happens again. Uncle G (talk) 08:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Were you able to see what I oversighted? Drmies (talk) 14:04, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't have oversight rights. But I can say with some confidence that the chief "learning point" from this would be not to post lengthy screeds filled with highly personal attacks after having been repeatedly warned not to do that sort of thing and having narrowly dodged an indefinite block for attempted outing. When they first went on about their age and mental health issues, I suspected they were prevaricating but gave the benefit of a doubt. FWIW I believe them now. In any case, it's painfully clear that user lacks the maturity and temperament to be a productive editor. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They outed me on some weird and offensive website with, apparently, student complaints--and real-life identification. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That's outrageous. I assumed the attempted outing was on Wikipedia. Now I regret not blocking them instantly. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well that's a dick move. Is it a site where a complaint could result it removal, or is it some kiwi farms style bullshit? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No. But I guessed that it was some attack sites stuff of some kind.  Ad Orientem addressed that final post in quite proper fashion.  Maybe that person will have more self control, and wisdom about what not to believe on the World Wide Web and what to do on highly public WWW sites, in adulthood.  I hope so.  Uncle G (talk) 17:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I notice that List of edible disasters wasn't on the list of bad article ideas. Great Molasses Flood, Honolulu molasses spill, London Beer Flood, Dublin whiskey fire, Pepsi fruit juice flood, Great Mill Disaster. It's almost begging for creation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:40, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Edible disasters? Peanuts!  I've just been finding sources for a road that is a long stretch of nothing at .  And we're still cleaning up after Mintrick swept lots of the "in popular culture" stuff under the rug, instead of actually dealing with it, 13 years ago.  There's another of them at AFD right now.  Uncle G (talk) 17:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Speaking of actual articles, I did my first WP:GAN for Rosetta Lawson. Looked like this when I started. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:31, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Uncle, I'm knee-deep in the Scottish bogs, with a view on a lochan. I thought I'd give the stone circle some company by writing up the guy who wrote it up, but he also wrote up a few more things--so this is going to take me a while (I know, New Jersey...). Plus I need to do some DYK reviews. I just realized one good thing about getting old: more things are now copyright-free then when I was young! Drmies (talk) 21:04, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect that you have a cunning plan that you are not telling us about, Doktoro. Uncle G (talk) 22:09, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Writing for Cash
{{divbox|brown|| His wife Alice accompanied him on a rare few of his climbs.{{sfn|MacInnes|2013|p=63}} He makes no mention of her doing so after 1894, although she accompanied him on a walk to view an eagle's nest in 1903 and cycling up Glen Nevis in 1907.{{sfn|MacInnes|2013|p=63}} She also accompanied him on his tours of chambered cairns and standing stones around Killin and Aberfeldy.{{sfn|MacInnes|2013|p=63}}

Hill-walker Kellan MacInnes suggests, from experience that he characterizes as common to "every mountaineer", that Cash's mention of the "occasional disaster of over late return" in Nights and Days may refer to Alice waiting anxiously at home for his return and being worried when he is late.{{sfn|MacInnes|2013|p=63}} He further suggests that Cash's experiments with moonlight excursions were perhaps a way of avoiding being away all day from, or late returning to, Alice, saying that "[w]hile Sir Hugh Munro sometimes climbed at night to avoid disturbing landowner's sport, Caleb climbed at night to avoid upsetting his wife."{{sfn|MacInnes|2013|p=63}}

Socks socks socks
Hi Drmies! I welcome your recent move to smoke out some more WorldCreaterFigher–DerekHistorian–Vamlos socks. But it looks as if the one who triggered it clearly belongs the other part of the multi-faceted (in other words: hopelessly conflated) WorldCreaterFigher sock zoo: SatoshiKondo–AsadalEditor–RobertoY20 and so on. It's the same IP range that threw shit at me after I filed a recent SPI. I know there's no fruit of the poisonous tree rule in WP, so if a banned editor calls out that another banned editor is around, we still may listen and act, but I just wanted say... –Austronesier (talk) 18:02, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Poorly sourced articles + editor who doesn't quite seem to get it = little problem


I don't know if this is quite your cup of tea (or coffee), but there's this editor who keeps creating articles which plainly do not meet the criteria. (Un-)Surprisingly, these often get moved back to draft, but the editor doesn't seem to be taking this as opportunities to improve the articles, rather sends them right back to mainspace. See this for an example. They also don't seem to be willing to communicate much about this (the message I left on their talk page a while back was removed without reply and probably without truly being understood either)... Anyways, if you think a judicious application of the mop (or maybe an editing restriction from creating articles or moving them from draftspace?) here would solve the issue, feel free to do so. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Might want to give your two cents on this too. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I truly think a temporary block would be more adequate at this point since the user does not communicate and is persistent with their contributions. Neo the Twin (talk) 20:33, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look, but this is the kind of thing ANI deals with sometimes; it did in the case of FloridaArmy, and my friend Lugnuts has been dragged to ANI a thousand times for allegedly writing up stuff others thought was below par. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That editor lacks competence. I saw a long list of deleted edits too. If I look any harder I will end up blocking them, and I am not in a blocking mood. Perhaps someone who sees this can have a look; there may be better solutions. Drmies (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , now the user moved his own user page, please do something about this. Neo the Twin (talk) 19:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I just reverted the move. —C.Fred (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Now this, which is at best mild trolling? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait. That's your talk page. Drmies (talk) 21:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's not me (duh!) is what I'm saying: they might be trolling, or they might just not have a clue, but they have no purpose doing that. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Blue Book of Scotland
The Tijme Loords invented everything again, including Scotland, eh? &#9786; I independently came across  with some potential sources. Just the odd one or two. Stone actually did a later work, and the bibliography says that it's considered definitive and is the most comprehensive. Is this the can of worms that you were referring to? Then there's Stone's "illustrated edition", I suppose. &#9786; I presume that you'll be wanting to do a history merger of the draft with the original at some point in the future.
 * Of course. Yes, I saw that Further reading page too but I was looking for only one particular article. Sorry, gotta go. Drmies (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I still have to write up my surprise at finding how Euro-centric Britannica thinks that the U.S. little magazine genre is. Apparently, it was all about France and Europe, there wasn't any huge torrent of domestic U.S. contributions that had to be beaten off with a stick, and no non-literary content nor the immediate post-Civil War period nor anything past the 1960s existed. Uncle G (talk) 09:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Cash and Blaeu
Hi - thanks for your work on these articles. I'm familiar with that atlas, and have used some of Pont's maps in my own articles in the past, so am very glad to see those articles. I'm just about ready to pass at DYK, but a couple of comments - courtesy ping to as well. Cheers Girth Summit  (blether)  13:31, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Are we confident about the copyright tag on the image of Cash? I'm not a whizz on image copyrights - do we need to be sure that the photographer would have been dead by 1952, and if so, can we be sure about that? The photographer and the date of the photograph are unknown, but the subject was alive until 36 years before that date. Am I just being unnecessarily nitpicky?
 * This isn't a show stopper by any means, but each of the articles has a section where the word 'manuscript' is repeated often, sometimes several times in the same sentence. Do you think that a bit of light replacement with appropriate pronouns might be in order?
 * I believe my Uncle tried to clarify this in the article--but the photo is from a book published during his lifetime, so before January 1, 1927. I'm going to have a look at "manuscript"--I wrote this up in bits and pieces and that often harms the prose, yes. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have tackled "manuscript". I also wrote about the photograph.  The book mentions it.  Notice that the BBC one is the same photograph as on the MacInnes WWW site. Uncle G (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that all makes sense, thanks. I've just marked it good to go, then realised that you haven't done QPQ. Do I need to unreview it, or can I trust you to go back and do that ;) ? Girth Summit  (blether)  17:56, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to look for some right now. Can't guarantee I can get them all done before nap time. Drmies (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Requesting a look at AIV
Hi Drmies, contacting you because you were recently active and do take part in blocking disruptive editors. So there's an AIV report I made recently that is about to become stale in ≈35 minutes and will be removed by bot. Requesting that you take a quick look and take action as deemed necessary. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • C • L) 18:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I am oh so sorry to do this to you, but I have sock concerns...
Hello, Drmies, I hope you are doing well since our unrelated sock round-ups last year (found in User talk:Drmies/Archive 137). There has been a raft of suspicious activity recently at List of the oldest living people, Oldest people, List of the verified oldest people, and List of supercentenarians by continent all involving accounts trying to bizarrely add the same absurd claim to age 125 for Sivananda (yoga teacher). (The oldest known living man in the world with documentation is very likely 112, and the oldest verified man ever was 116...)

Offending accounts: (all of these blatantly pushed the same content/message by a direct edit or edit request on a talk page)
 * Wikiexxpert at List of supercentenarians by continent 04:07, 10 April 2022‎
 * 3ncrypter at List of the oldest living people 16:15, 10 April 2022
 * Sprasadrao numerous times at List of the oldest living people, List of the verified oldest people, Oldest people
 * Imran Taufique by edit request at Talk:List of the oldest living people 05:11, 30 March 2022
 * Thatguypulkit by edit request at Talk:List of the oldest living people 14:44, 23 March 2022
 * 72.142.73.249 by edit request at Talk:List of the oldest living people 14:33, 22 March 2022‎
 * 2.101.191.128 by edit request at Talk:List of the oldest living people 06:25, 22 March 2022
 * Prasun22 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 08:53, 29 March 2022‎
 * Dharmesh Padhra by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 15:11, 27 March 2022
 * 98.122.135.192 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 03:10, 27 March 2022‎
 * 2409:4071:4e19:1033:d1f0:8e02:250c:8b3c by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 14:28, 25 March 2022
 * Shounak katyayan by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 17:46, 24 March 2022
 * SwethaMalapaka by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 08:52, 23 March 2022‎
 * Abheygpt1 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 03:31, 23 March 2022
 * 122.173.29.56 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 07:09, 22 March 2022
 * Ajeebtha by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 04:33, 22 March 2022
 * 27.63.63.42 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 02:15, 22 March 2022‎ 27.63.63.42
 * OmShukla69 by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 19:42, 21 March 2022‎
 * Devashri Joshi by edit request at Talk:List of the verified oldest people 16:47, 21 March 2022‎
 * 2601:ca:8501:9b30:b5b2:50e1:d0f0:f7e5 by edit request at Talk:Oldest people 05:26, 2 April 2022
 * 2402:8100:2598:78aa::73bf:e963 by edit request at Talk:Oldest people 06:17, 31 March 2022‎
 * 157.45.140.58 by edit request multiple times at Talk:Oldest people 20:32, 30 March 2022
 * Ghoshneet2022 by edit request at Talk:Oldest people 08:56, 30 March 2022‎
 * Sc7.sc7 by edit request at Talk:Oldest people 08:26, 23 March 2022
 * 2409:4056:e02:9acc::dd4b:600e by edit request at Talk:Oldest people 16:07, 22 March 2022

There are even more questionable accounts at Sivananda (yoga teacher), some not already listed, which was created during this same time frame on 22 March 2022. I don't have as much certainty in all of these, but the ones not already listed above are:
 * Mukesh.kfc the article creator
 * Amitized a major contributor with similar edit history to many of the above accounts.
 * 49.238.43.223 added a claim identical to the spam-fest above.
 * Soap Boy 1 less certain as only a minor edit, but a similar focus on Indian related articles and an edit history roughly similar to many above accounts.
 * KA-GADAG this was their only article edit.
 * 137.44.127.14 removed skepticism from the article and promoted this farce.
 * Arindam1985 this was their only edit ever.
 * Subrat 7775 recently created account with same narrow focus, few edits, and helped expand this article.
 * 103.217.228.94 promoted this crap as legit.

A huge thank you in advance for any help you can provide in dismantling this apparent sock-network that has been a nightmare for our fellow editors. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:28, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Newshunter12, there is no way I can tackle this in this place and in this format. Please consider SPI--thanks. Drmies (talk) 01:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese dama
Hi Drmies. Thank you so much for reviewing Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese dama and slogging through that long article and long discussion! Of all the DYKs I've nominated, I think this one has been open the longest. Cunard (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You know, when I need to get more than a few QPQs I often look for the oldest, to clean up, and this had been sitting around way too long. It's obvious that you, and maybe others, spent a lot of time working on this and that it was in pretty decent shape. I hope you get lots of hits, and I think you for your longtime service on our beautiful project. Drmies (talk) 01:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You are very brave to look at the oldest DYK nominations when you need more QPQs. I usually avoid those as they are filled with contentious long discussions like this one. Thank you very much for your kind words about my work. I spent many hours researching and putting together this article. I found the topic very interesting and the article's previous state was outdated and just did not do justice to the contemporary usage and connotations of the term. I'm looking forward to its hopefully getting lots of attention on the main page. Thank you again for your excellent contributions to Wikipedia and for being willing to take on challenging things that less-brave editors would avoid. Cunard (talk) 01:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Cunard, it's my pleasure. Take care! Drmies (talk) 14:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Talk page abuse
I revoked TPA for 92.40.190.253 who you blocked, just a heads up. --   LuK3      (Talk)   22:36, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Makes sense--thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Drmies I hope you are having a happy holidays S201050066 14:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Ip problems
Greetings and all the best in New Year, this ip [] appeared today and started doing unsourced changes on Ajvar page, I have warned them but they just ignored me, also since this page was under attacks in December too, is it possible to semi protecting it? Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:ANI
This might interest you. Doug Weller talk 15:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

YGM
No rush, just wanted to make sure it went through / you saw. Perils of an unusual email address; I always worry things will get sent to spam. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 16:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Host plot edits
Are you noticing a pattern with the anons, or is that just me? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * M. Sebastian, Doktoro will be at you for your lamentable lack of Arthurpology, only slightly mollified by your opening the way for an erstwhile English professor from Northeastern Illinois University. Ignore the professor from Brigham Young University, who can recount every one in detail, because (a) xe is clearly the king of detailed plot summary, and (b) xe is not English.  Uncle G (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pardon me, but I have no idea what you are talking about in my conversation with Drmies? Forgive my presumptuousness, but you should probably not edit Wikipedia while under the influence. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know about pattern, because the IPs seem to have little in common--but you'll have seen that I dropped a block on the one IP. As for my Uncle--you should hear the stories my other uncle, Uncle Sandro, tells... Drmies (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Come now, M. Sebastian! Were you expecting people not to read Talk:Host (film)? Uncle G (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pardon me, but I have no idea what you are talking about in my conversation with Drmies? Forgive my presumptuousness, but you should probably not edit Wikipedia while under the influence. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know about pattern, because the IPs seem to have little in common--but you'll have seen that I dropped a block on the one IP. As for my Uncle--you should hear the stories my other uncle, Uncle Sandro, tells... Drmies (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Come now, M. Sebastian! Were you expecting people not to read Talk:Host (film)? Uncle G (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Oh, heck. Sorry, I had been focused on the edits themselves and not the talk page content about MPHG'S use of forecredits. Now it all makes sense (insert sound of repeated facepalming here). I appreciate you supplying sources for what I presume are notes about the use of forecredits in the MP film. Upon closer examination of that article, information regarding the credits are indeed present and sourced. So, while facepalming, I've discovered egg on my face. Oops. I will strike my comment about it in the talk section and re-examine the issue. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 22:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * These things happen. Uncle G would be my lifeline for any TV show. Drmies (talk) 22:55, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Duly noted. Thanks for the advice. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 23:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's how I write Wikipedia, Doktoro. Watch an episode of Hudson and Rex, write about Carrie Jenkins Harris at .  Uncle G (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You can enjoy Talk:Monty Python and the Holy Grail as well, M. Sebastian. &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Use of Self Published Sources and disruptive edits by User
Hello Drmies, Conservative cheese ball semms to insist on using WP:SPS iin multiple articles. And keeps reverting other users edits.1, 2, 3, 4, 5. He/She have been warned by multiple editors 1, 2(by a Admin), but he insist on his behaviour 3. Could you cast a warning.Mr.User200 (talk) 22:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps enjoy Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard before you do. Uncle G (talk) 01:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I blocked them for edit warring--someone else can take this to ANI, and I mean ANI 1.0. Drmies (talk) 01:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Youth cred
It's good to see you editing a section that actually has youth cred under the heading, Doktoro. iCarly: The Next Almost Exactly The Same Generation won a Kids Choice Award over the weekend. I am sure that you are as excited by that as I am. Will it offset my being faced by a bunch of Scottish book reviews, though? At least one is written in The Irish Review (Cork), as well, so I suspect that it's a trick. Uncle G (talk) 16:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Uncle G, I just want one thing right now. But thanks for picking up on the white teen culture thing--I was running late for class. Today's offering: selections from Houseboy and So Long a Letter. Drmies (talk) 16:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That's a little steep for a HD work on barbers. Are you in such sore need of a haircut, Doktoro? On a similar note: We should be requiring M. Around The Mountain to carry a copy of Scottish Nation up all of . Uncle G (talk) 00:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked closely at the list, but having lived in Edinburgh and Fife for about 20 years, I imagine I've already been up most of the Arthurs. I didn't do it with a copy of that book in my pocket, but I will have done most of them in the company of a (very) different professor of Scottish history, who is rather bemused by the idea that that IP might be TD, whom she knows professionally; we think it unlikely, but it's not an easy subject to broach. Girth Summit  (blether)  09:10, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to beat around the bush. Per Talk:Tom Devine and what I reported about the state of the article at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard I was more convinced than "unlikely", which is why I broached the possibility that VRT had been fooled and didn't address the IP address as Devine.  Something had to be wrong somewhere.  It turns out that VRT didn't check and just identified "the subject of this article" anyway.  I still have 7 JSTOR results to process from page 1.  I don't know whether I'll look at pages 2 and 3.  If I do, I suppose that I can add Scotland to the entire state of New Jersey who owe me articles.  &#9786;  Uncle G (talk) 10:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * So one thing I am not going to do again is try and keep pace with a Scotsman drinking. I'm paying the price for it. Drmies (talk) 21:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks to the Financial Times, Doktoro, I am in possession of the remarkably specific and verifiable facts that Tom Devine did not get drunk in La Lanterna in Glasgow on 2021-05-07, exactly what he ate the night before (Be warned! It includes beetroot and leek porridge.) and that he ate chicken liver pâté with toast and oatcakes for lunch. I also have to, with sadness, tell you that despite your edit at Special:Diff/1082388703, the article does not look set for 5-fold expansion. Uncle G (talk) 01:35, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

History Professor Vacuum
Have you tripped the switch by accident, Doktoro? I find that William Ferguson does not have William Ferguson (historian), who is slightly dead. Perhaps your lurkers could find some sources? By the way: It's an odd experience when one finds that a book having been reviewed only in the Times (twice), Guardian, Herald, Scotsman, New Statesman, National, Scottish Review of Books, London Review of Books, Irish Times, and Literary Review of Canadia is a disappointment. This, too, in the week that we learn that M. Around The Mountain's approach to checking out Sockpupperties is to lug Scottish historians up and down hills.  Uncle G (talk) 10:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - I offer you another obituary, a festschrift, and a review of one of his books in the SHR. Will post more if as I come across it. Girth Summit  (blether)  16:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What you are failing to find, M. Around The Mountain, is sources like the aforementioned Financial Times that answer the important questions: Did William Ferguson (historian) eat lunch? Uncle G (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have turned your red link blue (while in the process uncovering another red link). I was not, unfortunately, able to dig up anything about the good doctor's luncheon arrangements. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - I offer you another obituary, a festschrift, and a review of one of his books in the SHR. Will post more if as I come across it. Girth Summit  (blether)  16:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What you are failing to find, M. Around The Mountain, is sources like the aforementioned Financial Times that answer the important questions: Did William Ferguson (historian) eat lunch? Uncle G (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have turned your red link blue (while in the process uncovering another red link). I was not, unfortunately, able to dig up anything about the good doctor's luncheon arrangements. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What you are failing to find, M. Around The Mountain, is sources like the aforementioned Financial Times that answer the important questions: Did William Ferguson (historian) eat lunch? Uncle G (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have turned your red link blue (while in the process uncovering another red link). I was not, unfortunately, able to dig up anything about the good doctor's luncheon arrangements. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

{{divbox|brown|| Norval Richardson's most memorable luncheon in the United States embassy at Rome was Smithfield ham, spoon bread, hot rolls, and fried chicken.{{sfn|Kreyling|1981|p=388}} The Italian chef who cooked it, Richardson recounted in his autobiography, complained about the barbarous diet of Americans.{{sfn|Kreyling|1981|p=388}}

In the same autobiography he described Havana as "one of the most picturesque and unusual cities of the world—in spite of its nearness to us".{{sfn|Pérez|2008|p=173}}

Your block of 78.145.133.51
There have been others from 78.145 disrupting Hey Duggee; you might want to look into a partial block for that range. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Culture that is popular with English professors


Why Edinburgh all of a sudden? I've only just finished through wading through Edinburgh press releases for Tom Devine. I would say "Spot the English professor!" but it's rather hard to spot who is not the English professor. Ian Duncan is a chair, Doktoro, a green one or something of that ilk. And why can't professors just watch television and make lists like proper Wikipedia pop culture writers do? Uncle G (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * &mdash; Is "Laureate of Auld Reekie" Foreign for "Poet of The Confederacy"?
 * &mdash; Edinburgh: A Satirical Novel, John Gibson Lockhart's Peter's Letters to his Kinsfolk, Scott's Waverley Novels
 * &mdash; Rankin's Inspector Rebus novels, Iain Banks on the Forth Bridge
 * Waverley Steps
 * Waverley Steps

Multiple accounts editing.
Greetings, Drmies. Are you online?--Manwë986 (talk) 07:34, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am now. Drmies (talk) 21:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry to disturb you. I need to report something to you, since you're an admin. There were been multiple accounts causing edit wars without reliable sources in Chinese Wikipedia. 105.161.20.161, Dustfinger203, SovereignDust203, and 102.69.228.74. Recently, Dustfinger203 created another account Manwė9866. I think they are used by the same preson, as their edit contributions were almost the same. Now they come to English Wikipedia and edit pages without providing reasons and sources (102.69.228.74, Dustfinger203, SovereignDust203, as well as 105.161.20.161). The same edit contributions as the Chinese version, with insignificant reasons and no reliable sources. I believe that they may be sockpuppets. Please take care of them. Thank you.--Manwë986 (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Drmies (talk) 01:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. What about 105.161.20.161? It had the same edit contributions as 102.69.228.74, Dustfinger203, and SovereignDust203. Manwë986 (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If I didn't do anything it's because I had no technical evidence on which to base anything. I don't really see the point in blocking the IP now: I applied semi-protection to three affected articles. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's the evidence about 105.161.20.161: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/105.161.20.161. The editing of the two articles are similar to the work of Dustfinger203, SovereignDust203, and 102.69.228.74. Thank you, and sorry for all this commotion. Manwë986 (talk) 20:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Michael O'Connell (artist)
Hi Drmies. Was wondering if you or any of your talk page watchers would mind taking a look at Michael O'Connell (artist). Based on this FFD discussion, it appears that the subject's son has recently been editing the article quite a lot; there were a two edits made as far back as 2016, but most seem to have been made in the past few months or so. Non-free content use issues aside, the recent additions might need some going over (perhaps by multiple users) to try and assess what to leave in and what to leave out. Some of the content like Michael O'Connell (artist) and Michael O'Connell (artist) seem quite odd for a Wikipedia article and more like something for an article talk page. Anyway, since Tpsoconnell claims to be the son, his intentions are probably the best and not intended to be disruptive. Just for reference, this is what the article looked like before the editing started back up again in February. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:19, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The talk page content is now on the talk page, the proper expansion templates are in place, and I've fixed up the inconsistent book citations as well. I leave Doktoro and The Lurkers to work on image placement. Uncle G (talk) 13:07, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement
22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm more than a little surprised that it took this long for that to be made a rule... - Jack Sebastian (talk) 23:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm yeah, so it seems like we're dropping a few more of em? Maybe it's time for me to start hussling again to see if I can sway anyone to take up the bit. Drmies (talk) 23:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Anyway, with this edit to my talk page and the UPE block I just placed I should be good for a year., what are you up to? Drmies (talk) 23:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, heading to Vancouver in May, then back to Nevada for a week some time after. Looks like I will be hitting the road again these days. --kelapstick(bainuu) 12:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Exciting! Have you considered Mongolia? Drmies (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Funnily enough, it's on my list, but I have yet to secure the work as of yet. Indonesia (again) is looking promising, as is Panama and Cuba, however. --kelapstick(bainuu) 16:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Username
Hi, Would you please tell me, Why you reverted my UAA report see here? Thank you! Fade258 (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, "Cabbage Patch Kids Liker" doesn't strike me as a promotional user name, and this edit, while not helpful, wasn't really promotional either. I would have left an edit summary but I was on the phone with the IRS and had only one hand available--sorry. Drmies (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Ok ! Thank you for clarifiying me. But I found the website which is related to this username. Fade258 (talk) 02:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Legal threat
In the article Billingshurst a series of similar edits have been made under different user names culminating in this one by User:SovalValtosIsSad, a derivitive of my user name with what I see as a legal threat in the edit summary. Rather than doing anything else I thought it best to ask for help from an admin shown to be active. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Socktroll already blocked, article protected. Probably best report to AIV if they reappear at another article. Cheers Girth Summit  (blether)  17:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * SovalValtos, sorry you're being singled out by this person. I dropped another block on a new sock;, see my log if you're interested, and thanks for taking care of the others. Drmies (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * my pleasure -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 19:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Binibining Pilipinas 2022 and Miss World Philippines 2022 articles.
Greetings! I am Allyriana, there are two accounts that are harassing me for the sole reason that I deleted the "Represent" columns for BBP 2022 and MWPH 2022. What actions could I do since I am only an editor in Wikipedia for a year and I am still fairly new to these types of cases.

Thank you and Godspeed! Allyriana000 (talk) 01:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is the other? Drmies (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That user uses the IP address " 49.149.134.117". I have a strong feeling that these two accounts are connected to each other. Allyriana000 (talk) 01:56, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

User contributions for 75.133.167.231
Only 31 hours? What are the odds of productive contributions from anyone using this IP address? Sincere question. Cullen328 (talk) 02:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking an IP address for much longer isn't always helpful, unless subsequent edits make clear it's static and used frequently by the same editor. If another one of those things happen, you can jump to a much longer block. I just dropped a long rangeblock, but that's a range where one editor has been disrupting things for a long time. If you like you can check "WHOIS" and see if you get something useful, not too big, and then see if there's more of that stuff. Maybe smarter editors have better ideas... Drmies (talk) 02:23, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Amadeus1999‎
Just a heads up that this user has only recently started editing but they seem to know their way around here pretty well. Lots of potentially legitimate explanations. But this job has left me with a bad case of cynical suspicion. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:57, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah there's no way they're new, but what can we do. Drmies (talk) 19:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

SPI
Sorry for whining, but: you quite reasonably suggested here opening an SPI, and I did, but now it's been sitting around for six days without any administrator attention :(. --JBL (talk) 18:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't really "patrol" SPI, and it's terribly understaffed. I'll have a look. Drmies (talk) 19:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Think I've got it sorted. ANI 2.0 strikes again! --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 21:21, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks both! --JBL (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Promotion of Nonacademic Sources as Academic Sources
There seems to be a misunderstanding. I was against the article presenting a "book" that was falsely presented as academic literature (which it is not). Just because this "book" was reviewed by two people doesn't make it peer-reviewed. Can you please remove the word "scholars" from the article as this "book" is not academic literature. Please provide me with evidence that this "book" is academic literature. I did not characterize "them away as a vanity press"; I was referring to private discussion to User:Bloodofox about "self-promotional" literature in folkloristics articles. I had that in the edit summary to aid Bloodofox in case he wanted to understand what I was referring to. I am so sorry you misinterpreted my message as an insult to McFarland's literature; that was not my intent if you feel it conveyed that message.

Thank you,

The Soldier of Peace (talk) 21:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Answered on your talk page. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Yonkers Police Department Page
Hey how are you doing. I am here just to ask if there is anyway we can get the Yonkers Police Department page back by itself with no redirect to Yonkers, NY. I saw that it closed down months ago because of copyright and improper citations but I did a bit of editing and got rid of all the copyrighted images and put in proper citations and am wondering if we can get it back on wikipedia as a main page. If you have any questions or wanna talk feel free to reply and thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingkurtis401k (talk • contribs) 21:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Kingkurtis401k, we can, but not if you simply remove the redirect and don't add any content. I don't think "copyright" was the problem, not exactly. But the first thing that an article needs is reliable secondary sourcing, and that was a problem earlier. I strongly suggest you follow the steps in WP:FIRST, since I think it is clear that you do not have a lot of experience writing an encyclopedia. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 00:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for replying. I will follow those steps and try to make sure everything is sourced well on the article. Kingkurtis401k (talk) 02:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, Kingkurtis401k. Srsly, follow those steps, because beginners have a tendency to confuse primary and secondary sources. The other thing you can do is look for other police departments on Wikipedia and follow their lead (and look at what kind of sourcing they have). Take care, Drmies (talk) 02:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Jeanwelsh
I have blocked this user as a sock of Kingshowman based on behavior and editing history as also their triggering an edit filter tied to the sock master. But they are insisting this is a case of mistaken identity. When you have a few minutes could you take a look? Thanks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Update I've opened an SPI and decided to unblock them out of an abundance of caution in the meantime. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Ad (in Dutch that's a pretty common first name, not a preposition)--I see a couple of big shots are already on it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this has gone as far as it's going. I'd like to know who they are/were, but that mystery is likely to remain unsolved. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Ambati Rambabu
Hi Drmies. I'd like your opinion on one sentence I've added:

I'm hoping that'd be okay and not venture into SYNTH? Thanks in advance! — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:35, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I tweaked it a bit, but I can't read the premium article in The Hindu--but it seems like a fairly uncomplicated claim, no? Drmies (talk) 15:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edits! Here's the archived version of The Hindu article. Should've added it earlier. Yes, it seems like a straight forward claim. Just covering my bases as I want to take it to DYK :) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 16:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Debate
It seems that some edits I've made have caused a debate. Just to clarify, the author Iljaz Rexha is professor of Ottoman history at the University of Sarajevo, Bosnia and the paper I'm citing was published in Gjurmime Albanologjike (Academy of Sciences of Kosovo). The parts which I cited aren't a theory which Rexha has written, they are the official defter material of the Ottoman era. On purpose, I added the full names recorded in each village for two reasons, a) because they are first families in each settlement and are important for their history b)to avoid editorial misinterpretation which tries to show "ethnically pure" areas by overfocusing on one ethnic group. Rexha is an academic, the source is RS and the material isn't disputable. I could cite any other source which has the same material, but I chose Rexha because it's accessible online on academia.Alltan (talk) 18:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me--but then, this is not the place to find consensus. Maybe the best thing to do is to post this on a WikiProject talk page? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * He has reached 4 reverts at Mirkovci and is placing the same mass reverts on all articles with the blatantly misleading summary "corrected information" and no participation in discussions. I think that this has deteriorated to the point of requiring admin oversight.--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't have time to check all the source blanking he has engaged in, but it's clear to me to me that much of it was done without at least some elementary critical examination of the source he removed.--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Ertugrul...
was the name of my DoorDash driver tonight. It was doorstep dropoff, so sadly I did not get the chance to see if he resembled your handsome editnotice friend. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 01:35, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you order a red apple? Hmmm... Drmies (talk) 02:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No, a double bacon cheeseburger with grilled onions and barbecue sauce. Usually I also get grilled mushrooms but our local Five Guys seems to undercook them a tad.Fun Toki Pona fact: Until recently one had to call fungi kasi, 'vegetation', but a word for fungus, soko, was made canonical last year. So now one can say mi moku e soweli e kasi e soko e ko pi telo soweli e ko namako lon poki pan, 'I eat mammal and vegetation and fungus and paste of mammal liquid and spice paste in a grain container'. Charming, no? --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 08:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * D okto r o mi es tas is of course an Esperantist, and may not understand your Hoki Polari. Uncle G (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait, WHAT? You eat that double? I don't even do that, haha. And I do get mushrooms, and jalapenos, both kinds. Now I'm getting hungry. Drmies (talk) 14:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting, that language--this was news to me. "Paste of mammal liquid" doesn't sound very appetizing. As for Ertugrul and the red apple, it's part of the show's propaganda purposes--see this. Drmies (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's a nifty little language. ("Little" language literally, ~137 words in the lexicon.) I took over someone else's request for a Wikipedia in it, but I keep not having time to really push for it. Believe it or not, organizing that was actually on my list of things I might do this week to kill time. That might reflect more poorly on my judgment than anything else. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 19:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Uncle, what is that article? A list of things with a lead that has nothing to do with it? Ah, I see--it got messed up here. Still I'm wondering about the very title of the article, but not so much I'm going to spend time on it. I see that someone spent time bringing Angels on horseback up to GA--the dish's political settings were very interesting, and I learned a bit about the social aspects of government. Ha, that was 13 years ago. I'm glad to see that EXACTLY NINE YEARS AGO (what are the odds?) I took my responsibility as a member of the bacon cabal seriously with this edit. Now I'm getting even hungrier. Drmies (talk) 15:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that your Lurkers ought to explain bacon roll. pork roll it is not.  I did find that, not to be outdone by the University of Alabama Press with moonpies, the University of Mississippi lets its authors go on for an entire chapter about daube glacée, noting that it retains its original French spelling, which Wikipedia has of course mis-spelled as daube glacé and sourced to a dead WWW page. Uncle G (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * A proud catch of mine recently was saving Caffè mocha from a set of incorrections so thorough that a well-meaning editor had requested a move of the page to align with them. I've now drenched the thing in . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 19:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What's all this - are we still discussing what Scottish history profs had for lunch? Girth Summit  (blether)  19:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, but that talk about U of A reminds me that I am confirmed to speak at Alabama in the fall--and they're paying me. An amazing thing. Well, they're paying my travel and hotel and all that. Still, that means I don't have to go through my own university's bureaucracy, and that's worth a round of bacon beers. Drmies (talk) 19:56, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * My better half (the hill-walking Scottish history prof I alluded to earlier) is off up to Edinburgh tomorrow to be filmed for a BBC program about the history of the union. They're paying - get this - first class open rail tickets. All those free cups of tea... Girth Summit  (blether)  20:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Tom Devine ate leek porridge and whisky-kippered salmon, according to the Financial Times, and no bacon roll. You are going to have to come up with a better source for bacon roll than that, M. Around The Mountain.  As Doktoro has explained, moreover, Pommiepedians vandalized the original introduction to make it look like it was the same as a bacon sandwich when actually it seems to cover the same ground as bacon wrapped food (which admittedly, was the Johnny-come-lately here).  Perhaps Pommiepedians need a disambiguation to help them to understand English. Doktoro has an opportunity here, it seems.  So far, only the Arabic and Galician Wikipedias even know about some kinds of bacon-wrapped foods. That impersonator has not been back, fortunately. Uncle G (talk) 06:31, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What the hell - I can understand the Pommiepedians' point of view, those are not bacon rolls. A bacon roll is a roll with bacon in it - I didn't know there was any disagreement on that point. That is a photograph of some pigs in blankets. Girth Summit  (blether)  07:50, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Uncle G, you and your Pommiepedians, I think you would really enjoy the two books about Uncle Sandro of Chegem by Fazil Iskander. Drmies (talk) 16:54, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , now that I see the picture, yes--I've had that beer, and it's quite good. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You are making the same mistake as the Pommiepedians. You think that you know what things are.  You think that that is a photograph of pigs in blankets.  But it actually is not.  It is, as the file name says, as the Arabic and Galician Wikipedias say, and as various recipe books will confirm, bacon-wrapped dates.  Images search on Bing gets me  so it's not as if Pommiepedians couldn't know what these were, and that they existed, if they tried. But instead, faced with Rcsprinter123 writing Special:Permalink/667118684, Pommiepedians did not read the article to find that it had a couple of sandwich variants and a couple of bacon-wrapped things (only a couple, out of several more).   Instead, they repeatedly added their own rubbish to, and eventually overwrote, the introduction with the likes of Special:Diff/677604606, Special:Diff/745715715, and Special:Diff/795711629, because they cannot even agree amongst themselves (as you can see from the mess that they made) on "roll", "batch", "bap", "barn", "butty", "sarnie", and "cob".  And by 2018 they had made an article, that previously was about bacon-wrapped foods and general to the world at large, into Special:Permalink/866621271, a Pommiepedian mess seemingly about Pomland only.  It is no wonder that in 2018 a student  decided to fix the obvious hole to cover the rest of the world outwith Pomland and started bacon wrapped food from User:Aaji0085/OLES2129/draft. In fact, Rcsprinter123 had already given us a (to this day) better article on several bacon-wrapped foods seven years earlier, and had it not been vandalized by Pommiepedians with their "I think I know what this is!" thinking, it could have already occupied that place by 2018, with a bit of renaming and the sandwiches moved into bacon sandwich.  And by now, Doktoro might even have found a home on such a page for bacon roll-ups, the longer form of bacon rolls and known in the South for many fillings including asparagus (ISBN 9781476713212 page 221),, and , including such tid-bits of verifiable knowledge as why to part pre-cook the bacon. Uncle G (talk) 09:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes--thank you. Don't know about turkeys--who wants to eat turkey? Drmies (talk) 15:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Doktoro, I leave you with bacon-wrapped Juicy Lucy to deal with. Clearly the university presses of the United States are woefully deficient when it comes to food of the United States, despite the moonpies and the mis-spelled French.  When you do your forthcoming book pitch to the University of Alabama Press, you can tell them that they have another inferior publisher to beat: ISBN 9781511958707 ISBN 9781517094256 ISBN 9781500392406 Uncle G (talk) 09:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Dates in blankets? Nah, sounds look a euphemism for something. Girth Summit  (blether)  15:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * M. Around The Mountain, I leave you with the fact that Bing images tells me that . You owe Doktoro some free-content pictures to use for the book pitch.  Uncle G (talk) 09:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, it's always fun to read really serious comments by editors you've never seen before and who haven't done all that much but are great at Monday morning quarterbacking over at RfA, although from your point of view they're votes as well, and that probably takes some of the fun out of it. Drmies (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, it's always fun to read really serious comments by editors you've never seen before and who haven't done all that much but are great at Monday morning quarterbacking over at RfA, although from your point of view they're votes as well, and that probably takes some of the fun out of it. Drmies (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Indian IPv6 range editing issue
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Stricter block for Indian IPv6 ranges due to sockpuppetry. Thank you. Please take a look at it. The range you blocked in the past, 2409:4072:6000:0:0:0:0:0/36 has gotten a lot worse (partially solved by adding the Talk namespace to the block). Other ranges are listed there and your input would be useful for them as well. — <b style="color:#29F">B.</b> <b style="color:red">L.</b> <b style="color:#080">I.</b> <b style="color:#808">R.</b> 01:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Mail
— Preceding unsigned comment added by BusterD (talk • contribs) 18:56, April 25, 2022 (UTC)
 * Glad to see it worked itself out. Thanks for all you do. BusterD (talk) 21:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, me too. Certainly this was a vexatious one for a lot of editors. Drmies (talk) 21:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Beeches Pit
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If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * has a picture, Doktoro.  has a picture based upon more recent work.   gives you Richard Preece.  And  gives you "". Uncle G (talk) 09:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I moved it, and incorporated some of your material--thanks. I don't know how to pull the image from the internet archive, and of course this is well outside of my area of expertise, if I have any at all. I had quite forgotten I wrote this up. Drmies (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If it helps, I uploaded the image to Commons, with and without its description in the journal. Geoff &#124; Who, me? 22:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I moved it, and incorporated some of your material--thanks. I don't know how to pull the image from the internet archive, and of course this is well outside of my area of expertise, if I have any at all. I had quite forgotten I wrote this up. Drmies (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If it helps, I uploaded the image to Commons, with and without its description in the journal. Geoff &#124; Who, me? 22:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)



User:Random Haste
Hi Drmies. I see you had blocked this user earlier. But I don't see any change in their behaviour. It has been the same all along. They have the ownership attitude towards Kempegowda International Airport. Please check the history of this page you will see their POV. They provide a reason like booking engines being unreliable sources (actually they are) and remove destinations from other airport articles, but include booking engines as sources and add destinations in Kempegowda International Airport. There have been numerous warnings of citation issues. Quite recently, they made a PDF on their own of the new international routes out of KIA and cited the same as a source which was uploaded onto some media sharing website. One instance of me removing this source here and instance of RH adding this as a source. I had back in December, reported them at ANI, but no action was taken. Please see what you can do, this user is disruptive in general. &mdash;  LeoFrank  Talk 16:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * User:LeoFrank, please do me a favor: report at ANI, again--I know, it's a drag, but I promise you action will be taken. Make a list of bullet points outlining the disruptions, including that weird PDF, and note the booking agencies stuff. And ping all the editors who have warned this editor too. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @LeoFrank and @Drmies, i would like to talk to you about this user called random haste.

so what happened is yesterday I removed a sentence in Kempegowda International Airport which I feel is not completely meaningful and out of context. It reads "KIA Airport's IATA code 'BLR' is derived from Silicon valley of india', which doesn't actually make sense. But this idiot user called random haste keeps on reverts the edits. He is not bothered to discuss it on his talk page where I even pinged him. he goes on reverts by giving some sloppy reasons He has this ownership attitude towards KIA AIRPORT. He has been in edit war with many people till now and was also blocked once. But hasn't seem to be changed. He once also claimed that he works at KIA. He doesn't allow anyone to make changes to this article if he disapproves that edit. But he'll be the first when it comes to removing content from other airport articles. To be Frank, I'm fed up with this guy. Request you to look into this issue Thanks. Adithya003 (talk) 01:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Help with Jamberpilot
Hello. I’m here to ask for your further help with this user who has recently switched to this account after making misleading edits as an IP. He doesn’t appear willing to stop editing in regards to abortion in Ohio. VictimOfEntropy (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Also, I’m having trouble with my internet connection, so it’s difficult for me to keep up now. And I really don’t know how to manage this. VictimOfEntropy (talk) 05:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

I hope that you’ll be able to keep an eye on him, as I really do need to go to sleep and don’t know how to put any protections in place. There will certainly be a lot more traffic to pages related to abortion in the coming days, and Jamberpilot clearly has a malicious agenda to misinform the people who will be relying on Wikipedia for accurate information. VictimOfEntropy (talk) 06:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

VictimOfEntropy
Hey. VictimOfEntropy seems to be maliciously changing any and all pages related to Abortion. We had a little discussion on the Talk page for Abortion in Ohio, where they were completely uncivil and unconstructive. Could you please intervene? This is getting ridiculous. Understandably, this is a contentious and hot issue currently. However, this does not justify the opinionated changes and reversions they are making. Any help would be appreciated. Jamberpilot (talk) 05:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Drmies is the other user who reverted your vandalism, Jamerpilot. And I will also direct Drmies to the personal attacks that you have made on me. Stop your ridiculous assault on logic. Wikipedia is meant to inform, not mislead people. VictimOfEntropy (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Your inclination to call something 'false information' and immediately revert something is poor behavior. As noted in the Talk page, I realize what you are trying to ensure is said on the page. However, the additional information that you removed is valid information. You could have easily made an edit to the page adjusting this, not gone nuclear. This isn't a personal attack, I don't know you personally. What I do know is your behavior here in this context- and it's not constructive at all. Jamberpilot (talk) 06:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

My behavior on Wikipedia has never been anything but conducive to improving the quality of articles on this site, something that you have no history of despite your apparent skill at navigating it. You have made accusations against me which are blatantly false, but true in regards to yourself. Drmies also undid your entire edit as it was plainly clear that you were acting maliciously. And you ignored Drmies instructions to discuss on the Talk page and put your misleading edit back on the page immediately, despite me quickly arriving to explain how wrong you were, and now you’re still complaining about it, despite how ridiculous and deceptive you’ve been, Jamberpilot. VictimOfEntropy (talk) 06:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey Drmies. You'll find that I made appropriate adjustments from reviewing the Talk page, and the version history- despite this problematic user's clear intention to ensure a bias remains in place. I would like to note that this user had came to my personal Talk page to threaten me posing as an admin, on top of their persistence for edits. It's very evident that this user is very passionate about this matter, understandably in such a pivotal time. In my own opinion, that is a huge indication that this user should be kept from having edit permissions from any subject matter related pages. They have gone through many different Abortion pages to mock up tone-charged edits because they know, and even admitted it above, that there would be a lot more traffic between now and the coming weeks so they want to moderate it. I am trying my best to deliver information in a simple and unbiased manner, and you will see that in my various edits. The only reason I came here to even make an edit in the first place is because I have a friend who is currently experiencing a pregnancy scare conveniently at the same time of this pivotal litigation. I investigated the laws myself for them to provide them with potential realities, and I had to do that because there was a lack of research done on the current law text. So, I decided I wanted to make that information available for others that may be concerned as well, or is simply curious. I offer my apologies that you had to deal with this. Jamberpilot (talk) 07:55, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, VictimOfEntropy and Jamberpilot. "ANI 2.0" night shift on call. Could you please both stop reverting each other, while we await the good doctor's opinion? Because regardless of which of you is right, what you're doing right now is edit warring, and if people edit-war across multiple pages we can't fix that just through page protections, so we have to block them, which would be a shame, since I do think both of you are participating in good faith here. On that note, could you please stop calling each other vandals? See WP:NOTVANDALISM. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 08:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I gave 'em both warnings for edit warnings. They are both blockable at this point. Watching the page -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 10:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I sure missed a lot of excitement, didn't I--if you kids are in the same time zone as me, I sure hope you got a good night's rest. (Sorry, --can you tell I've been reading Winston Groom this morning?) Yes, this back and forthing is just really unnecessary and unhelpful. And I just left a note Victim's talk page, before I saw what all had been happening here. I don't think either side has a good showing here, but Jamberpilot certainly jumped the gun, and rightfully warned them about the sourcing issue--there is a good reason we use secondary sources, and simply parroting or, worse, reinterpreting primary sources is never a good idea. This page simply needs a few experts with cooler heads. Drmies (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Carrie Jenkins Harris (American writer and editor)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Secret recipe
Whilst you are enjoying yourself with Colonel Sanders's entirely factual secret stuff, some of us are looking for sources that do not turn out to be (yet again) Isaac Hopper upon investigation and are having to read about "quackery" employed by Middle English people. Uncle G (talk) 15:32, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I wish. I'm grading essays. It's bad. Drmies (talk) 16:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Orray Ticknor
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Parameters
My attempt at cleanup wasn't entirely successful: I have the feeling that the "population blank" and the other blank result in no punctuation. I tried some other parameters from Template:Infobox settlement but I think it's just going way over my head. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, the short answer is that you're probably putting that information in the wrong place - population_blank1 is, I'm pretty sure, meant to contain a number, as it has a formatnum which strips out the  (and why your commas are being stripped out of your value). I'll have to refresh my memory of how this template works but I'll post back here in a few minutes when I've figured it out. Primefac (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's what I thought - things like language, ethnicity, and religion go into the demographics1_titleX and demographics1_infoX. Primefac (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I couldn't get that to work. I couldn't even figure out why some of those parameters have two sets of numbers. Why is there a demographics1 and a demographics2? Is that to make separate sections within the box? I managed to screw it up somewhere. Drmies (talk) 19:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies, your page dropped off my watchlist for some reason. If I get a chance this afternoon I'll see if I can shift things around. As near as I can tell, though, yes, there are different numbering systems to group them differently. Primefac (talk) 10:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅! If you think anything needs changing, by all means feel free to do so (or let me know) - that is not a user-friendly template... Primefac (talk) 08:03, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Primefac, thank you so much--you're fancy. One thing this has taught me is just how much there is under the hood, and how much we owe to the developers and the writers of code. Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 17:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

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Nomination of Peepoodo & the Super Fuck Friends for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peepoodo & the Super Fuck Friends is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Peepoodo & the Super Fuck Friends& until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --Historyday01 (talk) 00:38, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm one of the curators of the article on Anti Patterns.
Please see my comments in the talk page. If there is no valid reply within a week or two, I'll proceed with a revert of the mass deletion and we can go from there.
 * Valid reply given, for your curating eyes. Please sign your messages. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Carrie Jenkins Harris (Canadian novelist)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * , I'm really quite tickled with this hook. DYK that the Canadian one got even more hits than the American one? Drmies (talk) 00:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If I had thought about that ahead of time, I might have suggested some A/B testing, Doktoro, running the sentence each way around for some hours to see whether it was simply the case that the first hyperlinked subject was the more viewed one. Uncle G (talk) 06:05, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

I wonder if I'll get a reply
You haven't fixed the email issue I presume? It would be nice to chat about SPIs. Doug Weller talk 14:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Ohhhh, brother!
They're parroting. It's like you say. No idea what any of it means.14:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Endorsed unblock, without further admonishment. Waste of breath, well, fingers. And at my age, am daily (painfully) reminded that breaths and keystrokes are numbered. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 15:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * And-- as "all's fair in vanessy," why shouldn't he have a go?  -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 15:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Revdel?
Mr. Bond (musician) had a source that looked to be a court document uploaded to a random upload site, and was used as a source with no proof it was real. It sourced the real name of someone who's name hasn't been released in RS, as well as a DOB. I think that it should probably be revdel'd up to my last edit, and it might qualify as an attack page. If it's not an attack page, it looks like BLP1E is probably at issue. That said, I implore ANI 2.0 to take a look and see if revdel applies, and some input on the BLP1E/attack page issue. The guy seems pretty horrible, but amplifying him and making him seem more notable than he is probably isn't the right move. As always, any assistance is appreciated. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I hope some of your ANI regulars can have a look. Drmies (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Night shift's off to a fun start! Okay, I initially RD'd everything, and then in discussion with an oversighter determined that "Philip H." is supported by RS. So I restored that, but the full name is OS'd. Initially I'd thought this might be an outright WP:BLPDEL situation, but now that I see he was actually convicted (which I've since made clear in the article), probably not... But, as someone who thinks it's never BLP1E (not because I'm an inclusionist by any means, but just because most people seem to have not read the damn policy), this might actually be BLP1E.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 01:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a ton. I'm on mobile right now, so I didn't search for more sources about the conviction, but I did see Philip H. was used in the sources, so I had left that. I'll do some more looking around tomorrow to see if I think AfD for BLP1E is the right move. Thanks again for the help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:24, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Another ANI 2.0 request
, and pretty much the rest of their editing. Do we need more, or is this enough for action? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:04, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Southern Magazine
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Little magazine
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi
Thought you might be interested in the similarties between User:ErikWIKI and User:ErikFelik. Doctorhawkes (talk) 09:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Genre warriors are sad. Drmies (talk) 15:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

He's Back
Good morning, that persistent disruptive editing person who has been blocked many times using different ip addresses is back at it again with a new ip address. His last edit was to the Jersey City Fire Department page, which I fixed. He's using 2603.6011.DF01. Please assist in blocking, this ip address is already blocked from 4 different pages by friedokra, or deepfriedokra. Thank you, Doriden (talk) 15:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I blocked the /64 range; perhaps feels like the /34 range needs it as well. Drmies (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your assistance.  This person has been at it for several years,  same content,  same types of editing.  Anyway,  I appreciate your response.  Doriden (talk) 16:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Drmies (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, like I mentioned,  he or she has been at it for several years,  different ip addresses, same subject matter, he has been blocked many times too under different ip addresses. OK, Doriden (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh, I must defer to The Doctor with Magical Eyes. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 17:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

June Parker
Thoughts on this? To me, it signals a pretty critical failure to understand BLP, of the sort we normally indef over. My involvement with them so far has been entirely administrative, and my edits to 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting and its talk have also all been administrative or noncontroversial, but since that does add up to like 20 edits across those two pages, out of an abundance of caution I thought I'd bring the matter to you and ask your opinion. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:48, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the edit itself is worth an indefinite block, but it was certainly worth a warning. addressed the matter before (and right below) the editor used the word. But in general I've been thinking this editor is headed directly for a NOTHERE block--by a thousand cuts, so to speak. Drmies (talk) 20:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That edit itself may not be but their overall editing pattern is definitely blockworthy. They appear to have an axe to grind and accuse any editor who they come into contact with that doesn't agree with them of "shadowing" and racism. PRAXIDICAE💕  20:08, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * +1 -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 20:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Watch out, they don't appreciate being mentioned. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ScottishFinnishRadish, I saw that, and that was silly, but you don't have to bring that up here., I don't know what your thinking is right now, but I think that you, with your organizational skills, should be able to compile a concise and convincing body of evidence that you can either use as a block rationale or for an AN post. I think this editor has totally worn out their welcome. Drmies (talk) 00:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * +1 -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 01:39, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "organizational skills"??? You fucking take that back. The same organizational skills that had me reply in April to an email you'd sent in October about an RfA I'd been planning to run in January?I'm good at putting a lot of words into a semi-coherent order, though, so I did that, and then blocked them. Eight years without starting an AN(I) thread on someone, looking to keep it that way as long as I can. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 01:58, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I take back nothing. You explained it well, I think. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Edit summary
Concerning https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Historical_Society&type=revision&diff=1088610062&oldid=1069878142, this was a confusing Edit summary. I think you just got carried away. Best wishes, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think--well. Drmies (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Caleb George Cash
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Blaeu Atlas of Scotland
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Afriforum
Doug Weller talk 14:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2022
Good day! Its Allyriana000 again. I have a concern about a certain vandal at the Miss Universe 2022 page. Every time that vandal's edit is reverted, that vandal reverts it back plus a lot of cursing and profanity. It has been going on since yesterday, and that certain user also vandalized other Wikipedia pages. Hope you could address the issue, and I hope that you could add a protection to the Miss Universe 2022 page. Thank you! Allyriana000 (talk) 23:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * OK--I warned them. But please don't call them a vandal until you can make the case that they are intentionally vandalizing. Being obnoxious in edit summaries is a different matter, really. Twice inserting UAE is not yet enough for me to block them or for applying such protection that would stop them. A partial block is an option, though. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Topic ban
Hi Drmies, I have been topic-banned from a couple areas of Wikipedia for many years. I wonder two things: first, would it still be okay to start a private email correspondence about such a Wikipedia article with an editor of that article to point out an error; second, am I allowed to discuss anything in these topic areas at BLPN or at the article talk pages? Incidentally, I think both topic bans were bullshit questionable and basically intended to slant article content; User:NeilN said he would reconsider the second ban after six months, but then he promptly disappeared from Wikipedia. I have no desire to deal with ArbCom again as long as I live. Thanks in advance for answering my question. I hope you’re well! Cheers.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:18, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Ima jump in and say no. This was not a unilateral action by NeilN. It was a result of this Arbitration Enforcment
 * You may appeal as instructed at Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions  -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 16:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * After skimming that thread, I'm afraid your reason for wanting to jump back in might argue against lifting the TBAN. YMMV. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 16:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You can request review of the sanction at WP:AN. Probably the easiest route. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 16:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Since NeilN is a former admin, you could have mentioned WP:AC/DS, i.e. asking any uninvolved admin to modify the sanction before appealing to AN or AE. Politrukki (talk) 11:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Something that happens off Wikipedia is not on Wikipedia--but this is one of those cases where I'd ask the editor first to see if they're OK with it. Second, no, and what Deepfriedokra says. It's not NeilN's ban--there's a consensus there, and I see my dearly-missed friend User:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris was involved in that discussion as well. Drmies (talk) 16:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 😥 Miss them -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 18:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answer about contacting editors offline, I obviously would stop communicating with an editor if they reply with a request that I stop. As for the rest, I told you accurately what the admin who requested and imposed the ban told me, and I have no intention of dealing with ArbCom again.  If Wikipedia had any interest in preventing lynch mobs and censorship-by-other-means, they would use randomly chosen jury-type proceedings.  I have proposed this many times, but it’s always difficult for centralized and successful power structures to cede any power.  Also note that even Facebook has realized that indefinite suspensions are unwise and draconian.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Like I said. Admin Noticeboard would ne a good choice. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 20:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You suggested above that a lifetime topic ban is warranted, and I have no reason to believe that the AN-ArbCom appeal route would disagree with you. As I stated above, I like to point out errors, which I personally think is an admirable motivation. YMMV. I’m not a udarnik.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 20:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No such thing as a "life-time ban." Indef bans can be appealed after six months usually. AFAIK. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 21:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Any prisoner in jail for life can try to get the decision modified. In fact, he’d have a lot better chance than me.  The default is life.  Sufficient admissions of wrongdoing will not be forthcoming from me.  As things stand, you’ve already said above that “your reason for wanting to jump back in might argue against lifting the TBAN.”  Ergo the ban is for life.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:13, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What sort of apology would you require from me, user:Deepfriedokra?&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:48, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind and submitted an un-TBAN request here.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:48, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

🤠&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Good for you! Drmies (talk) 15:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Someone claim to be your doppelganger
A user is here claiming to be your doppelganger. The editor is doing some questionable stuff in this AFD and this one. Could you confirm that this is yours? &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;    (contact)   00:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Blocked. It's been a running battle with the socks.  -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 01:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * see above. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 01:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I saw another one, with an extra vowel. It's kind of sad. I did learn that Zzuuzz was an LTA troll. Drmies (talk) 01:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, my. You think you know someone. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 01:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

I deserve a trout.
I need a trout after that. I deserve it. Cutlass Ciera 19:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I looked over your shoulder for a bit to see what was going on, if maybe your account was hacked or something. 2700 points, that's pretty big. I rev-deleted it since it serves no purpose, and I noted in the log that it was accidental. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for revdeleting that. This is what happens when you don't get enough sleep. Cutlass Ciera  19:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Karin Huffer for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Karin Huffer is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Karin Huffer until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Banks Irk (talk) 20:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

oh look...
More personal attacks on the school shooting talk page. ANI or arbcom? PRAXIDICAE💕 12:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This REALLY is getting into AP territory. Ordinarily I'd say ANI, but this is a special area where we need to take special care. Yes please. Drmies (talk) 13:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And there's some "lunacy" comment?, I see you've been following this... Drmies (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Only occasionally to check for any OS-related material, and I will admit that it was Prax that asked me to look at that latest comment as a potential NPA violation. Primefac (talk) 14:18, 26 May 2022 (UTC) But I wanted no bullet point.... Primefac (talk) 14:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Colons and asterisks... Drmies (talk) 14:59, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What the hell... it must be THURSDAY, because suddenly the levels are all different! Primefac (talk) 20:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No, it's that auto-reply function, which adds a colon. Drmies (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

 * Thanks! It's been a while, hasn't it. Drmies (talk) 13:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#fffec2; border: 1px solid #d6d442; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"> Have a Happy Adminship Anniversary! Hey there Drmies, I'd like to wish you a happy adminship anniversary! Congratulations on your special day, and thank you for all the contributions you've made.

𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 18:04, 27 May 2022 (UTC) On behalf of the Birthday Committee

An additional THANK YOU for putting that gun control userbox on your page. Most admins don't have political userboxes, so I applaud you for breaking away from the norm when necesary. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 18:04, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure thing--but I'm so old fashioned and naive that I don't call that a political userbox... Drmies (talk) 19:44, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Did i make a mistake?
You removed my edits on 2022 Monaco Grand Prix although i was doing it right or nor it was a vandalism, so what did i do wrong? Mansebastian (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You didn't do anything wrong, but the editor who made this edit, at the same time, did. I see your information is back in there. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Prayer for Ukraine
I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Listening to the charity concert mentioned here. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Now, you can also listen on YouTube, and more music, the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices call "Freiheit!" (freedom, instead of "Freude", joy). Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Your comment moved me to tears. - Bach's No. 1 today - stand and sing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

memories: two people on DYK, both connected to Oper Frankfurt, and don't miss yesterday's video of Pink Floyd given to me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Main Page history/2022 April 13: the TFA is hard to overlook, but there are also peace prayers, a soprano and a theatre manager, - if you don't find them try here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

after Easter and relilience: dance and singing, peace doves and icecream --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

another Ukraine day today: Maks Levin DYK, expanding Kyiv Symphony Orchestra (have tickets), and creating Anthony Robin Schneider, the bass who could be heard opening the singing in Beethoven's Ninth twice on 10 March 2022, live in Frankfurt, Germany, and recorded in Auckland, New Zealand, singing "Freiheit!" (freedom) instead of "Freude" (joy), in a tradition started after the Fall of the Wall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Dove sono (Where are those happy moments ...?) - concert with Kyiv orchestra and Aleksey Semenenko (quite a story!) tonight, Symphony with war and peace in the subtitle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

today performances in Ukraine - for Ukraine - for peace, at the bottom an imaginary set of eight DYK --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

today more pics, and should this woman have an article? - or only her sons? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

today Melody (not by me), and more pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

a strong woman --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

blue: today saw my pic of the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra on the Main page - blue light for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Richard_Keen,_Baron_Keen_of_Elie, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Brattice (talk) 19:58, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, now! -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 20:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Bad, Drmies, bad admin. I'm sorry to hear you've turned to the dark side at long last. Go sit in a corner with the pointy hat. BusterD (talk) 20:39, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines"--Ima get right on that, Brattice, and thank you for the invitation to your talk page. Drmies (talk) 22:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Max Fosh
I just merged into Max Fosh, and subsquently realized that in doing so I had effectively taken a side against you in an edit war. To elaborate on that decision, then, I'm far from convinced that he's notable, but there's been enough new coverage in the past 13 months that I don't think it would be a G4, so I figure better to have one marginally-notable article about him than two. I don't see a hijacking issue here; the person described at Matthew Fosh is the same person. Recalling your and my adventures at Samay Raina (where I also edit-warred with you, although there on purpose), I hate the types of editing that YouTuber bios attract, but my inclination here is to let the article stay up for a bit, restore the old versions for anyone who wants to work with them, and see if a case can be made for notability. But at the same time I won't be heartbroken if someone just re-redirects it. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:11, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries. Someone put it up for deletion, which I found agreeable. Take care, Drmies (talk) 22:11, 30 May 2022 (UTC)