User talk:Estheim

AfC notification: Draft:Clive Y. Thomas has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Clive Y. Thomas. Thanks! Cairo2k18 • (talk)  •  (contribs)  03:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2020
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 * Hi, . I'm pretty new, if you have specific concerns about my edit, please let me know so I can improve. My aim was to use more neutral-phrasing, but if I over-stepped or misjudged I'm happy to step away from BLPs. (And for the record, I am not Guyanese nor at all affiliated with Guyanese politics, which are indeed as terrifying to me as US politics.)Estheim (talk) 18:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to leave a detailed edit summary when you delete large sections of text. Sometimes it may even need a detailed explanation on the article's talk page.  I also agree with you about US politics; the thought of Joe Biden running the country is terrifying indeed. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Random comment
Looked at Mining in Guyana, liked it. Quick comment, oil data is a little stale, wondered if the woes of Petrobras had affected production. Also wondered: there was an offshoot of Operation Car Wash that had something to do with swindling indigenous gold miners in Northern Brazil. I don’t suppose you have heard of that? Portuguese Wikipedia is pretty mysterious. input welcome Elinruby (talk) 17:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing that to my attention, . All I've read is that there are Brazilians that have obtained small and medium scale mining contracts along the borders; areas which suffer from lack of infrastructure and regulation, so comprehensive and accurate reporting just isn't there. A quick search of Stabroek News didn't reveal any stories linking Car Wash to domestic mining activities, but maybe I'll 'dig' into Brazil-centric sources to see if there's information worth adding.


 * As far as the table data, yeah, I hate how old it is and from one source. I'm not at all confident adding data to existing tables unless the source is identical and strongly reliable/consistent. Integrating numerical data into articles is on my personal to-do list, but I think a lot of number data seems so... useless? It should always serve to support information in the article (as evidence for growth or comparison), but a lot of times it looks arbitrary.


 * On a related note regarding oil- the industry is so new. Like, super new. There's an amazing treemap here to show how this is shaping Guyana's economy: Exports (2018) vs. Product Exports (Jun 2020) is gearing up to be a substantial shift. Since it's such a blissfully quiet corner of the anglophone world, it's prone to neglect, so I'm cautious and conservative in adding oil-related content. And that's saying something since I also fixed up petroleum industry in Guyana. So you can see why I'd get fussy over a related  NPOV claim, lol. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 11:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)


 * you didn’t come across as fussy, merely interested. The other questions: Petrogras had a lot of foreign contracts, and also had something to do with offshore platforms. I just wondered if there is some there there, given it’s a neighboring country. On the gold question, there are a lot of offshoots so I do not remember the name of that one, but I noticed it because its link to the other cases is not obvious. I will probably be going through those pages soon and will follow up with whatever was used as a reference, but that will almost certainly be in Portuguese since the articles are mostly translated. Still there may be some particulars that you may know something about. I think the name of the indigenous people was mentioned, for one thing Elinruby (talk)<
 * , I don't think I've run across any off-shore issues pertaining to Brazil. There's the Venezuela and Suriname territorial disputes, and drilling drama has been mostly confined to Exxon plus a little China-US spillover due over CNOOC's involvement (similar to Guyana's Bauxite industry, where the major players are Russian and Chinese owned quarries). There's a lot of (paywalled) academic papers I haven't gotten to that discuss mining among Amerindian communities but I've been working from the (free) low-hanging fruit. I've collected a lot of seemingly good paywalled links in my main sandbox: sort of a mess, but there could be more about dealings with Brazilian mining ops among those sources. Estheim (talk) 13:08, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Your recent edit has been reverted
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 * , I don't see a revert on this article. I moved existing sentences and added additional content. If you're seeing something I'm not, kindly advise. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You know what must have happened - I intended to leave the thank you for doing xyz welcome message, not the don't do xyz message. I never reverted your edit - thanks for catching it! Below, is the message I was trying to give you:
 * , whew. Thanks for clearing that up. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 18:30, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Estheim/sandbox/Energy in Guyana


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 * Tagged and bagged! Thanks for your help at the TH,.

Wikipedia and copyright
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WP South America / Guyana and WP Guyana are the same
You do not have to have add WikiProject:Guyana if WikiProject:South America is present. The reason is that there are hardly any people on WP:Guyana, and therefore South America with Guyana=yes is preferred, because that way the articles also show up at WP:South America.

BTW: Thanks for all your contributions: I see you've been quite active lately. KittenKlub (talk) 22:12, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you msged, I've been sort of wondering how it works as a group/subgroup. I 'sort' of get it, as I've noticed the Guyana=Yes, but somehow it just seems off? Like it doesn't register in the WP 1.0 lists (or could just be me confusing myself?). If it's a barely notable permastub, I don't mess with it, but it's when I feel like I'd be stepping on another projects' toes by making a big change in importance/type that I'm inclined to add the group separately. HOPEFULLY I'm just being persnickity about the whole thing but not making double work? There's always potential to fall down the rabbit hole of useless tasks on Wikipedia, hahah.


 * Sort of on that note, is there any sort of decent system for higher assessments? I think I understand the B criteria enough, but I think it was made with an active group in mind, and not just an individual (me) with too much time on their hands. I don't have designs on getting FAs, but I'd like to see 'stronger' articles on the important Guyana topics.


 * I dig your ticker-tape of Covid info- Caribbean and then... Bhutan. Quite a geographic difference! Estheim (talk) 00:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Some WPs like Seychelles are changed to Africa by bot (if you type WP:Seychelles it will be changed to WP:Africa), however Guyana still has two systems, and there is no bot changing it. I assume that WP:Guyana is obsolete. It makes no differences for the stats or robots which one you use.
 * I would stay with Stub, Start, C. B-Class need an assessment on points and on most bigger articles the references and grammar aren't quite there yet. The highest level is Good class, however that needs a nomination and a thorough review ( Good article nominations ).
 * There is a lot of difference between countries, however the numbers can not always be compared. Guyana has a lot less cases than French Guiana, however the deaths are much higher (170 vs 74), therefore the ratio of infection in French Guiana, Suriname and Guyana are about the same. It's not as bad as the USA, Europa or Brazil, however it's quite high nevertheless. KittenKlub (talk) 08:06, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Barima Neighbourhood Democratic Council
Hello, Estheim,

I just deleted the article you PROD'd. Next time, please add in the edit summary that you tagged it with a PROD (or a CSD tag or a AfD tag, etc.). In case an article is DePROD'd and gets PROD'd again, admins need to check out an article to see if it has already been PROD'd before and the simplest way is to scan edit summaries. This is made very simple if you use Twinkle which automatically fills out the edit summary and sends a notification to the page creator. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 17:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will do. Estheim (talk) 17:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

El Dorado Rum
Hi, thanks for your message regarding improving this article. Taking a look at Special:WhatLinksHere/El_Dorado_Rum, I can see the article is mostly orphaned. Adding links from other relevant articles can help. Cheers 162.208.168.92 (talk) 18:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Categories
Hello, Estheim,

I saw your note on that talk page of Category:Catholic schools in Guyana. It wasn't tagged with a PROD, it was tagged CSD C1 which is a speedy deletion tag for empty categories. Except for a few exceptions, empty categories are deleted on Wikipedia. BUT they can be restored should there be a need for them and they will no longer be empty.

The official guidance on categories is Categorization but for your questions, I would just look at similar small countries to see what is done in their case. The important thing to remember with categories is that there is a category structure or hierarchy, like a tree. If there is a category that states "Private colleges in country X" than there will be similarly named categories in countries Y & Z. We do have some advice against small categories so I would just go one level up...if there aren't many articles for Category:Catholic schools in Guyana, put them in Category:Education in Guyana or Category:Higher education in Guyana instead. You can also ask questions at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion if you need more help. Liz Read! Talk! 17:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

About the Singhs in Lusignan
I've removed that story before, but the story seems to have been reinserted. I left a warning, but I think it's about his (grand)father. I tried searching for it back then as well, and found nothing either. KittenKlub (talk) 21:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I was genuinely expecting it to be in the Stabroek article, but alas. Also surprised it wasn't referenced to some NYC-based alumni/philanthropy blog. I'll follow the page since it's probably one of those well-meaning yet misguided types. Sort of breaks my heart to remove ol' Stella: unsourced, but a great ass. Estheim (talk) 22:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
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 * Hi Estheim, since the article is interesting and new enough, I nominated it at WP:DYK. You can find the nomination entry here. Ashley  yoursmile!  18:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Egbert Martin
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Your GA nomination of Women in Guyana
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Women in Guyana you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Guettarda -- Guettarda (talk) 14:41, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for taking on this review. I hope to also learn a bit about editing for higher-quality tiers. I don't want my noob-ness to be a burden, so please let me know if there's any tedious errors I can help fix. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 16:33, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help, and given that this is close to home (spiritually, if not physically, as a Trinbagonian resident in the US). Guettarda (talk) 00:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Women in Guyana
The article Women in Guyana you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Women in Guyana for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Guettarda -- Guettarda (talk) 23:20, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you for taking the time to examine Women in Guyana. I agree with your assessment, in that the content is insufficient to adequately address this timely and important topic. I graciously ask for you to fail my GA attempt, since it demonstrates that I'm not quite up to snuff when it comes to building an article. I think a good deal of critique relies on having a second pair of eyes to gauge my ability to summarize sources, but hand-holding doesn't seem to be a part of the WP culture. Since I only add content based on sources I read, I can't promise to 'find' the kind of content that would satisfy most of these issues (and my own preferences) within a timeframe that would be fair/respectful to others waiting on GAN reviews either. I hope you don't feel like you wasted your time: I'm really grateful anyone at all could be bothered to look at this article and I'll be taking your words to heart. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 01:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your improvement to the article. I've looked at these "women in..." articles before and struggled to figure out where to go with them. Your work on this article was really good - you created an excellent structure. It's always easier to get a narrower topic up to GA, but it's more important to expand and improve bigger topics.
 * I'm more than happy to help however I can. Please stay in touch. Guettarda (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Have a barnstar instead
I've seen improving all those Guyana articles, and the articles were a bit mediocre... and they have improved a lot. Good articles are very difficult, so don't feel bad. I've never bothered to submit, because I'm aware of my poor grammar... I use the excuse that it's my second language even though my Dutch also suffers from poor grammar...

You are receiving the barnstar especially for Georgetown, because it had an ugly template on top which was related to an immense history which seems correct, but had no sources whatsoever. I looked at it a couple of times as well in the past, and the page just made me sigh. You've found smart solution to the Georgetown problem. KittenKlub (talk) 14:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , I know that 'sigh' feeling, especially with older articles that 'look' good, but have source issues. I'm not terribly surprised to botch a GAN considering my short editing experience, ("road to hell" and all that). I was very pleased to see someone nominate Egbert Martin with a DYK recently, so I feel like it's worth the effort to improve article quality and exposure. I'll just choose articles of a tighter scope for GANs and heed the advice until something sticks.


 * Ah grammar, the most fussy of arts. I've been around English in so many EFL and ESL contexts that I tend to abuse it even though it's my only fluent language (article? tense? Psh, who needs those?). Even though that's not very encouraging, I'm happy to do a quick language check if you'd like a second read-through for something. Estheim (talk) 01:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * It is not just about experience. The Guyana articles are in a very quiet backwater without vandalism, edit conflicts, people nitpicking about a single line. Highly controversial people like Forbes Burnham (and his Surinamese counterpart Desi Bouterse) can be edited without triggering edit wars while even minor American politicians are the scene of battlegrounds with locks, sanctions, and endless discussions on the talk page.
 * I think DYK or ITN (I focused on ITN last year) are nicer and don't put the threshold too high, because the article has to be in reasonable condition and does not have to be perfect. KittenKlub (talk) 07:32, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Women in Guyana
The article Women in Guyana you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Women in Guyana for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Guettarda -- Guettarda (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Women in Guyana copyedit
, Thank you so much for taking on this ce; even if the article is eons away from an upgrade, I'm grateful for a second set of eyes on my attempt at regurgitating large amounts of socially-sensitive content. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed copyediting this article; I always learn something. Thanks for your efforts and all the best,  Mini  apolis  22:13, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Ariunaa


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