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Apex in Middle Vietnamese


Hi, first of all, I want to thank you for getting "B with flourish" into the forthcoming Unicode release. The Vietnamese Wikisource community is working to digitize Alexandre de Rhodes' Dictionarium Annamiticum Lusitanum et Latinum, the first dictionary to make use of that letter, so your contribution in this area is much appreciated.

Recently an editor asked me about some diacritics I had taken for breves. They turned out to be apices by [ de Rhodes' description]. I know no Latin, but this chapter describes the tone marks and accent marks used in de Rhodes' orthography, and the paragraph beginning "Tertium..." seems to emphasize that the apex is distinct from the acute.

At first glance, the paragraph appears to be describing the horn (which also only appears over O and U). Indeed, a 1991 Vietnamese translation calls it dấu lưỡi câu, "fishhook", and the horn is usually called dấu móc, also fishhook. But the rest of the dictionary shows plenty of examples of this apex that look completely different than horns. Instead, they look like lopsided breves, vaguely like U+1DC4 "◌᷄". Compare the headwords "thường" (horns) and "thu᷄ thúc" (apex+accute) and the word "dữ" (tilde; left column, third line from the bottom) on [//books.google.com/books?id=2AdHAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA2-PA787 page 787–8 of the dictionary].

As far as I can tell, Unicode doesn't have a separate codepoint for the apex in Latin, because the combining acute is used instead. But the acute and apex apparently coexisted in de Rhodes' orthography. I suppose it's less clear-cut a case than B with flourish, but I was wondering if you might be interested in writing a proposal for it. I'd be happy to help track down more examples in Dictionarium Annamiticum and his other works.

– Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 10:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Here are some examples that show the apex as a diacritic in its own right. For now, we're using to represent the apex in Dictionarium Annamiticum, but of course a proper Unicode character for the apex would be very welcome. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 06:50, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not the best place to talk to me about this stuff. Real e-mail please. -- Evertype·✆ 16:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Ken George
Tha Morgowlez air a-rithist. --MacRùsgail (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * This issue has been settled, see this discussion, and also note that per Grandfather Rule the user name policy which is relevant is the one of the time the account was created. LiliCharlie (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, that solves that. Thanks, LiliCharlie — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Happy ...
WikiBirthday! LiliCharlie (talk) 13:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Awwww, thanks. -- Evertype·✆ 11:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy 10 years indeed, Michael :) Well done! - A l is o n  ❤ 18:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Book covers
Just a request: if you upload any further free book covers of Evertype books, could you add the OTRS ticket template like at File:Clara-in-blunderland-cover-2010.png? This will let future editors know beyond a doubt that you have the right to release said images under a free license; no more MfDs. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:20, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Doesn’t your “request” apply to book covers that have already been uploaded too? LiliCharlie (talk) 09:46, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, assuming Evertype marks them as free. Why the scare quotes around "request"? I am unaware of any policy requiring Evertype to be the one to add the OTRS ticket; others can do it as well. My request was simply to avoid unnecessary MFDs and the accompanying stress. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:15, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm ok with having them marked as free à la Clara. -- Evertype·✆ 16:34, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * So all CC-BY-SA 3.0? I can do it if you want. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. -- Evertype·✆ 21:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Bewnans Ke
Thought I'd bring it up in case you haven't seen it, but you've been mentioned at Talk:Bewnans Ke in the context of Ken George.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Opinion
Hi, i would like to have your opinion about a discussion which i started here, thank.Kingroyos (talk) 23:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Registration of Armenian Western, Grabar and Middle languages in ISO 693 series
''Moved from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Michael_Everson#Registration_of_Armenian_Western.2C_Grabar_and_Middle_languages_in_ISO_693_series Talk:Michael Everson. Registration of Armenian Western, Grabar and Middle languages in ISO 693 series].'' Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 12:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Everson

My name is Gevorg Mkhitaryan and I am a representative of National Standardization body of Armenia. Armenian Eastarn is already included in ISO 639-2 as an individual language. But we would also like to include Armenian Western, Grabar and Middle languages in these series of standards in accordance with language tags hyw, hyg, hym (see your page: http://www.evertype.com/standards/hy/ArmCS-005.html). Could you please give us some information about this procedure. Your help be will highly appreciated.
 * Thank you in advance.
 * Best regards
 * Gevorg Mkhitaryan 81.16.3.35 (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Recorders
Hi Michael. I've added the more common English (and I believe Scottish) names of "descant" and "treble" to your references to the soprano and alto recorders. I'm not disagreeing with the American names, but not including the alternatives could lead to confusion. I've also combined your "Types of recorder" section with the existing "Types of recorder" section in recorder (musical instrument). I can see what you're planning (oh and BTW, you've missed out the descant/soprano) from the list). Perhaps it might be better to either: Any preferences? Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Create a template recorders and use in it place of woodwinds near the top of the articles, but how will that run with project music?
 * Add a sub section to flutes as has already happened for side-blown flutes.
 * Create a new template for recorders which can be stacked upon flutes, just as that is stacked upon Renaissance music.
 * I added Recorders as a subsection to flutes. I am not sure what you mean by "stacked". -- Evertype·✆ 15:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I was only asking for a preference, I'd have done it myself this evening, so thank you.  By "stacked" I simply meant plced above flutes, just as flutes are placed above Renaissance music. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Navbox
There is a discussion about a navbox for recorders here. As a major current contributor your input would be particularly valued. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 23:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Evertype·✆ 15:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Tyvan symbol Y ү, which changes its shape in manuscript form
Hi! In Tyvan language we have a simbol "Y ү" (cyrilic simbol, not greece "wye"). We write it in another way by pen - "У у", but with reverse tail. I can proove it by screenshots and photos from our study books for initial grades. Also we used to write this simbol by the same way. Can I talk with you by email? Thx. --Agilight (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

For example, here : "Чүге суг бажы дагыырыл?", "...үзүлбезин...", "...сүзүглеливис..."... --Agilight (talk) 17:54, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There isn't an encoding issue here, it is just a glyph variant in italic fonts and/or handwriting. -- Evertype·✆ 18:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Andrew West (linguist)


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This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you. Shervinafshar (talk) 21:28, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not see this until today, but evidently the accusation of COI is unwarranted. The Wikipedia rules (WP:AB, WP:BLP) DO PERMIT subjects of articles to edit articles about themselves—advisedly with care and openness—and there is always a history retained for checking. So long as edits are informative and verifiable, there seems no reason to consider COI. COI would apply to unnecessarily self-serving edits. In the Real World, COI is invoked when e.g. politicians do work which benefits companies in which they have a financial interest (either benefitting from public funding or insider-trading). I don't see much of an analogy here. -- Evertype·✆ 11:56, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, you logged in! I have been working at the COIN board for a while now, and have been waiting for you to pop up.   The COIN filing is so old it has been archived now - see Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_82 and just below it, Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_82.  It emerged in those discussions that Shervinafshar actually had a real world beef with Babelstone and possibly with you.. and that was more of an issue.  That happens.  Nonetheless, your reading of WP:COI is not accurate.  There is a whole section in the guideline on using WP for self-promotion, which, I am sad to say, happens a lot with people citing their own work, for example. (and i can give you plenty of diffs with examples, if you don't believe me)  There are many ways that the integrity of WP can be compromised due to COI, in ways that are somewhat unique to this place.  But your edits and those of babelstone were reviewed and nobody found any big problems.  Do keep Conflict_of_interest in mind, though.  Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 12:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * @Jytdog: You are going to burn out if you try to police every tiny potential problem. I don't recall anyone showing an edit that was problematic, so banging on about COI is in this case is missing several points. I think it would be reasonable to assume that Evertype is quite a smart person and doesn't need a lecture on such basics. As you note, the only issue turned out to be that the person making the report was up to his neck in off-wiki disputes and was trying to use Wikipedia to punish opponents—giving oxygen to that is not helpful. Johnuniq (talk) 00:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * and policing the police is going to burn you out? :)  but really.  i agreed with 98% of what you wrote there; shervinafshar had a tiny, tiny good point but was wrong in a big way.  (things are almost never black and white)  my main goal was just to chill things out.  Jytdog (talk) 00:34, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia rules (WP:AB, WP:BLP) DO PERMIT subjects of articles to edit articles about themselves—advisedly with care and openness—and there is always a history retained for checking. So long as edits are informative and verifiable, there seems no reason to consider COI. COI would apply to unnecessarily self-serving edits. In the Real World, COI is invoked when e.g. politicians do work which benefits companies in which they have a financial interest (either benefitting from public funding or insider-trading). I don't see much of an analogy here. Thank both of you for your courtesy. These witch-hunts do a lot to encourage efforts from not spending time and energy on the Wikipedia. -- Evertype·✆ 14:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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Mega sejt!
En Amerikaner der taler flydende Dansk? Imponerende. :) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Kan ikke fortælle dig hvor flydend det er. men jeg lærte det når jeg var i højskolen i Arizona for mange år siden. -- Evertype·✆ 13:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool, vidste slet ikke man kunne vælge Dansk i Amerikanske skoler; troede kun det var Spansk, Mexicansk osv. :) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 16:20, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Det ku man ikke. Vi havde an udviklingsstudent hos vores skol, og jeg lætte fra Jesper udtalen osv. -- Evertype·✆ 14:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Comment Another editor actually nominated the page for deletion under CSD F7 (replaceable fair use), but did not place the notification on your user page as he should have and which I have now done. I have placed a template on the file page disputing that it is replaceable fair use, arguing that as a book cover, it is not replaceable. Safiel (talk) 08:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. I am the copyright holder of the book cover. I posted it using the "book cover" content licence that was available in 2011. What am I supposed to do? -- Evertype·✆ 18:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Davy and the Goblin
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 * How do I accomplish this? -- Evertype·✆ 19:16, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, which one appeals? It's somewhat different for each. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:22, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, that's not what I meant. I tried to put the licence you recommended on the page and I don't know whehter I did it right. Every time this comes up one feels brow-beaten by the "copyright police". Really annoying when it's MY copyright. -- Evertype·✆ 11:14, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to contribute your spoken voice to Wikipedia
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Hungarian
I added the missing text, without deleting ligature information. I did not revert you, I only merged old and new content. Ant Grajek (talk) 08:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Antinoou
Welcome, Evertype. I miss 'TURNED GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA' in Antinoou. Can you please add it, it is only greek letter missing there. It is matter of copying and turning small iota into 2129 codepoint. Thanks in advance. With regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.92.83.2 (talk) 13:10, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That isn't a letter. It is a letter-like symbol. -- Evertype·✆ 20:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * But nevertheless, can you please add it anyway? It is more Greek than ℌ№™ℵ already existing in letter-like block of Antinoou. Thanks in advance. I mean that I need it in applications akin to πο℩α παπ℩α directly above the linked section. With regards. Please answer, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.67.17.206 (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * If you want to use a genuine inverted iota in text, then you should write a proposal to encode one. This isn't that hard, and Nick's page will help. I will help. But I don't want to put a letter-like symbol in Antinoou, and my Copticist colleague Stephen Emmel concurs. -- Evertype·✆ 18:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that duplicating existing codepoint falling under *GREEK*LETTER* wildcard designating all Greek letters in http://unicode.org/Public/UCA/latest/allkeys.txt is pointless. I would rather find sans-serif font for my purposes than go through redundant proposal. I mean freeware which covers whole *GREEK*LETTER* wildcard.
 * I could add Ι ι Υ υ with U+032F Combining Breve Below, as Nick Nicholas recommends. U+2129 is not a letter, it's a symbol, used in mathematics. By the way, it would have been nice had you identified yourself. -- Evertype·✆ 14:30, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Why I cannot identify myself? Because of some users with blocking privileges who hate me to the utmost. 66.147.242.188 (talk) 17:27, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Send me an e-mail, then. I mean that's not that hard when you're asking someone to do something. I think the resolution we have come to is the right one. -- Evertype·✆ 23:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The next version of Antinoou will contain the four ligatured Greek letters. -- Evertype·✆ 17:20, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I see that it involves only adding of a U+032F Combining Breve Below, since letters themselves are already present there. I would like to use your Antinoou font for the mathematical/logical purposes too, eg "unique quantifier" (your font is very well typeset), so can you please too add TURNED GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA for these mathematical/logical purposes, besides preexisting ℌ№™ℵ? I like to include all 8 archaic Greek letters in my mathematical constructs, since more letters are giving more flexibility - eg all 32 Greek letters (wildcarded by *GREEK*LETTER* in allkeys.txt) already present in Unicode are giving me significant advantage over limited 24 letter set, when operating on the angles in a 32-gon.
 * I added U+032F and also pre-composed glyphs containing the four letters and that diacritical mark. I'm sorry, Antinoou is a font maintained for Copticists and I am not really interested in supporting mathematical usages that Copticists have no interest in. The letterlike symbols in Antinoou are used in Copticist research. If you really, really want those additions, e-mail me with an offer of recompense. -- Evertype·✆ 17:43, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Admin who hates me is Fut. Perf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F188:0:4:222:19FF:FE24:831D (talk)

Nomination of Modern Gaulish for deletion
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Tunisian Arabic
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Pollard script unicode display
Hi Evertype,

Just wanted to know whether you would be able to have the Pollard script "normalized" for the main internet browsers? (eg. Google Chrome, Internet explorer 11). The Pollard script article mentions that the pollard script unicode "was added to the Unicode Standard in January, 2012 with the release of version 6.1." It is now 2016, I have upgraded to Windows 10, and am using Google Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer 11, and Microsoft Edge browsers but still cannot 'see' the Pollard script unicode characters which current display as white square boxes. If this issue could be fixed, then the A-Hmao Wikipedia at Incubator could proceed smoothly. Thanks. --A-eng (talk) 07:46, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Are there any resources available to help undertake and accomplish this work? -- Evertype·✆ 15:27, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Resources available to help undertake and accomplish this work.
 * A-Hmao Font --A-eng (talk) 23:07, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Fonts don't make themselves, however, and I have to pay the rent. -- Evertype·✆ 15:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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File:Ogham-table-new.gif permission
Dear Evertype,
 * According to the description you wrote confirmed at 11 mrt 2007 10:21 (CET) the following: "I made this image and release it into the public domain. Evertype 11 mrt 2007 10:21 (CET)". However, I couldn't find any contribution at that time and date in your contributions on nl, commons and here. All the confirmations of release and giving permission for release are contributed by Patio. On multiple wiki's there are issues with multiple accounts of this user (blocks and warnings). Just to be sure, can you confirm that you've really released the image as the creator of it and and with the licence PD-USER-NL? Thanks in advance! Blueknight (talk) 14:01, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how to do this but you have not given me a link to any file. -- Evertype·✆ 12:12, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This is wrong. I made the first file and put it in the public domain. Someone else replaced my file with his own. This seems wrong. -- Evertype·✆ 12:14, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

The 10,000 Challenge
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Writing Systems still unable to be viewed properly in Unicode
Hello Everype,

Just to let you know, As of September 2016, however, Unicode is unable to properly display the fonts by default for the following unicode writing systems on most browsers (namely, Microsoft Edge, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox):


 * Balinese alphabet (ᬅᬓ᭄ᬱᬭᬩᬮᬶ)
 * Batak alphabet (ᯘᯮᯮᯒᯖ᯲ ᯅᯖᯂ᯲, also used for the Karo, Simalungun, Pakpak and Angkola-Mandailing languages)
 * Baybayin script (ᜊᜌ᜔ᜊᜌᜒᜈ᜔)
 * Chakma script (𑄇𑄳𑄡𑄈𑄳𑄡 𑄉𑄳𑄡)
 * Hanunó'o alphabet (ᜱᜨᜳᜨᜳᜢ)
 * Limbu script (ᤔᤠᤱᤜᤢᤵ)
 * Pollard script (𖼀𖼁𖼂𖼃𖼄𖼅𖼆𖼇)
 * Saurashtra script (ꢱꣃꢬꢯ꣄ꢡ꣄ꢬ)
 * Sharada script (𑆐𑆑𑆒𑆓𑆔𑆕𑆖𑆗𑆘)
 * Sundanese script (ᮃᮊ᮪ᮞᮛ ᮞᮥᮔ᮪ᮓ)
 * Sylheti Nagari (ꠍꠤꠟꠐꠤ ꠘꠣꠉꠞꠤ)
 * Tai Tham alphabet (ᨲ᩠ᩅᩫᨾᩮᩥᩬᨦ)

Prior to Windows 7, scripts such Burmese (မြန်မာဘာသာ), Khmer (ភាសាខ្មែរ), Lontara (ᨒᨚᨈᨑ), Cherokee (ᎠᏂᏴᏫᏯ), Coptic (ϯⲙⲉⲧⲣⲉⲙⲛ̀ⲭⲏⲙⲓ), Glagolitic (Ⰳⰾⰰⰳⱁⰾⰻⱌⰰ), Gothic (𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌹𐍃𐌺), Cunneiform (𐎨𐎡𐏁𐎱𐎡𐏁), Phags-pa (ꡖꡍꡂꡛ ꡌ), Traditional Mongolian (ᠮᠣᠨᠭᠭᠣᠯ ), Tibetan (ལྷ་སའི་སྐད་), Odia alphabet (ଓଡ଼ିଆ ) also had this font display issue but have since been resolved (ie. can now be 'seen' on most browsers).

Let me know when the fonts listed above are able to be viewed on Wikipedia and most modern internet browsers (without the individual needing to manually install the fonts on their Operating System). --Sechlainn (talk) 02:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Unicode is an encoding system, not a display system. If things cannot be displayed, it is because either web fonts or local fonts are not available. I myself can't do anything about this without funding. -- Evertype·✆ 18:33, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

The Mary Tyler Moore Show opening sequence, title card, font
Thanks, Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 11:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The Mary Tyler Moore Show
 * The Mary Tyler Moore Show opening sequence
 * Can you document the font of the first title card of the The Mary Tyler Moore Show opening sequence ?
 * Peignot_(typeface) -- Evertype·✆ 21:37, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

On reliable sources
"experts I met at they Wikimedia Foundation" are not reliable sources unless you cite their published works. -- Ե րևանցի talk  07:00, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You seem to have missed the point. There's no realiable source showing that they are mutually intelligible either. -- Evertype·✆ 18:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Winter cleaning
Done. -- Evertype·✆ 20:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Shva nach and shva na
Hi! On Wiktionary, Hebrew-speaking editors and I have been discussing the issue that Unicode does not include separate codepoints for shva na versus shva nach, though they have distinct purposes and appearances and are distinguished in the same texts that also distinguish qamats qatan from qamats gadol, which do have separate codepoints. For example, the two occur side-by-side in עַבְדְּךָ on the last line of this Koren Sacks Rosh Hashana Maḥzor, and וּמָרְדְּכַי on the second-to-bottom line of this Tikkun kor'im Esther 2:14-20. The lack of distinct codepoints impedes Wiktionary (and Wikipedia) from displaying the difference in entries and from developing accurate automatic transliteration of fully vowel-pointed Hebrew.

Since you've written many proposals that have added characters to the Unicode standard, we wondered if you'd be willing to make a proposal that Unicode add a codepoint for shva na. (Shva nach is probably adequately covered by the existing shva codepoint, because — the Hebrew-speakers tell me — when the two are distinguished, the shva nach has the "normal" size, while the shva na is clearly enlarged and/or bolded.) -sche (talk) 21:25, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I sent you an e-mail. -- Evertype·✆ 12:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

"Asturian" (ast-wiki) to "Asturleonese"
Hello, I’m Julio César, a wikipedia user and contributor from León, Spain.

I have noticed that the website offers the language “Asturian” but the problem is that this language is actually just another name for “Asturleonese” just like “Leonese” so it is incorrect to call the language "Asturian" alone. Nowadays, the name “Asturleones” (or “Asturllionés” in the language) is preferred by professionals as it includes all variants and avoids conflict. They are both very similar/the same anyway, so I was wondering if the name of the language could be changed to “Asturllionés” instead of “Asturianu” on the menu.

This article actually explains what I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astur-Leonese_languages

If this is not your area of work, who should I get in contact with?

Thank you very much.

Julio César Fernández Llamera (talk) 13:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Jcfll44
 * You don't say what "the website" is and you don't say what "offers" means. But there is a language code for Mirandese which has its own Wikipedia and there is a language code for Asturian which has its own Wikipedia . Leonese does not have its own code, and the article is clear about it being used for three dialects of... well, Asturian, and it doesn't seem to have its own orthography. So I don't know what you want to happen. -- Evertype·✆ 16:30, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. Yes sorry for that, I meant wikipedia. That is precisely what I mean, the Asturian wikipedia should be called "Asturleonese" as the term "Asturian" is non-inclusive of all the other names for the same language. I'll try to contact them, thank you for your help. Julio César Fernández Llamera (talk) 17:23, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Jcfll44
 * Well, I guess that is your prerogative, but this seems rather cosmetic. After all, Spanish is called both "español" and "castellano", or indeed "Spanish" and "Castilian". -- Evertype·✆ 19:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nuin


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Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society
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Please contact the Wikimedia Foundation about your Grant
Hello Evertype,

I am reaching out to you find out about your progress with this Project Grant:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Nigerian_keyboard_project

I see that you have not yet submitted a Midpoint Report for your project, so I wanted to check in with you about the status of the project. I emailed you in April to inquire about your project, but have not received a reply so I am not sure I have current contact information for you. Can we set up a call to check in? Please reach out to me at mjohnson @undefined wikimedia · org so we can discuss nexts steps.

We need to finalize the next steps for your project before the end of June 2019. We can do that in any of these ways:
 * If you hope to complete the remainder of the scope of work you initially proposed, then we need you to complete a Midpoint Report by May 27, 2019, explaining how you have completed the first half of the scope of work and how the remainder of the work is still relevant at this time.
 * If you have finished working on the project, you can skip the Midpoint Report and simply fill out a Final Report letting us know the work you've done so far.
 * If you have not worked on the project and no longer want to proceed with it, there are two options.
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Please reach out to me so we can discuss options. If we understand your circumstances, we'll do our best to find a way forward that works for everyone.

I hope to hear from you!

--Mjohnson (WMF) (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Past Vandalism
I wonder if any of the trolls that had vandalized either your userpage or your biography in the past wielded or promoted controversial runes like this one. &#x200b;‑‑🌀⁠SilSinnAL982100⁠💬 21:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Vandalism Dadaism is here Special:Contributions/79.191.251.72, but this LitTerA is already here: Ϳϳ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.72.173.211 (talk) 19:36, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Wonderland Revisited and the Games Alice Played There


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