User talk:Finchwidget

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April 2018
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Warren Mott High School. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. John from Idegon (talk) 00:12, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Adding references can be easy
Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

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Again, welcome! John from Idegon (talk) 02:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC) John from Idegon (talk) 02:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

June 2018
Hello, I'm John from Idegon. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Grand Blanc High School, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. MHSAA.com still says KLAA, so your change is going to have to have a source, such as a newspaper article. John from Idegon (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Yee hah!!!

 * I just reviewed your userpage on WP:NPP. I think we must have met in a previous life or something. Somewhere in my piles of life detrium, I have old Kodachrome slides of myself standing in front of each of the 83 county road commission garages in Michigan. It took many more than one trip though. I think the last one I hit was Sanilac. John from Idegon (talk) 07:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Macomb Area Conference Schools


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Cros-Lex
It's hard to see that being a colloquialism when it is the name on the school's website. John from Idegon (talk) 03:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair point; it really is more of a frequently used abbreviation, so I'll edit it as such. Finchwidget (talk) 13:42, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Western Peninsula Athletic Conference moved to draftspace
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Western Peninsula Athletic Conference (November 16)
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Theroadislong (talk) 08:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Western Peninsula Athletic Conference


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removing google maps link showing NCAA basketball arenas
hey! I noticed you removed the link to the google map showing all D1 basketball arenas. what was the reasoning behind that? thanks :) Garrettcarrot12 (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi! That link was originally put there by a different user a while ago, I'm not sure when or by who, but it hadn't been updated in a little while, so I decided to take it over. However, I found that I wasn't able to keep all the 360 odd schools updated as consistently as I liked, so I decided to can it thinking no one would notice. Probably a bit selfish of me, in hindsight... if you're the original creator of the map, feel free to put it back up, but otherwise I can give you the link to the map, and you can make a copy of it and put it up again if you're willing to take on the responsibility of keeping it updated. Sorry for the inconvenience, and I'm especially sorry for taking over your work, if you are the original creator! Finchwidget (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

UT Dallas on both D-III and D-II in 2024-25?
I saw you reverting one of my edits on one of the articles, involving UT Dallas. How come they be in TWO divisions within the NCAA? For example, they will remain D-III while transitioning to D-III by fall 2024. Also, in terms of conference affiliations, will they still remain in the American Southwest Conference by then, or will they be an independent (either on D-III or D-II) before joining the Lone Star Conference by fall 2025? jlog3000 (talk) 01:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry about reverting without giving a proper heads up, that was my bad. Generally though when a school moves from NAIA or D-III to D-II, they have a three year transitional period, where they spend the first year in their old league while entering Division II as a provisional member... basically a way for the transitioning school to get their affairs in order before moving on, is my understanding of it. Sul Ross State is in the same situation as UT Dallas-- they applied to join the LSC from the American Southwest Conference this year and were approved just recently, so they are now a provisional member of Division II in their first year of the three year process, while officially competing in the ASC for one final year. Then in the 2024-25 season, they will play a full D-II and LSC schedule. This way everyone wins, as the athletic department at the transitioning school have gotten the approval from the higher ups and can use this year to prepare for their move, while their old conference won't have holes to fill in their athletic schedules and can have time to prepare accordingly for the following season.
 * In terms of conference affiliations, when a transitioning school is in their first year of reclassifying, I've kept them listed as a departing, but still active NAIA or D-III member, as well as a transitioning Division II member and a future member of their new conference, since they will have gotten the approval from the D-II membership council to move. Then when they enter their second year, I remove them from their old NAIA or D-III conference and add them as a member to their new D-II conference, albeit listing them in yellow to indicate they're still reclassifying. Hope this helps! Finchwidget (talk) 01:16, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Then in Sul Ross State's case (who will be a D-II member by fall 2024 and in the LSC), while being a provisional member for D-II, does it make them a full independent within that level or rank, while still being in D-III and in the ASC (or AmSW as I abbreviate it)? jlog3000 (talk) 01:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Not as far as I've seen. Another example is Thomas More, who got approved to join D-II last year and just now entered their second provisional year. Last year they were still listed as a future member of the G-MAC as well as a current, but departing member of the Mid-South Conference, which I had no hand in. Then after July, I moved them to be a full but reclassifying member of the G-MAC. I wouldn't label any of the transitioning schools as D-II independents when they're in their first year of transitioning, because as far as I've seen, none of them actually participate in any Division II play in any sports in their first year; they're still fulfilling schedule obligations to their own league and conference. My impression is that they become a Division II member on paper their first year, and then become a D-II member in practice their second. Finchwidget (talk) 01:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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