User talk:Fluffernutter/Archive 5

Thank you
Thank you for repelling the continued assault on my userpage! I asked the other editor to be civil and take his issues to my talk page but I guess some people are incapable of being mature. Dac04 (talk) 20:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Jet Lag Gemini
Hey, I'm Emma, and I'm sort of new to Wikipedia, but, I was just wondering...why exactly is "Dan is the best looking" not personal opinnion, yet "Vlad is the best looking" is? Just wondering. Thanks a ton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Embear12 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * (Talk page stalker) It is, and I have removed that, and some other unsourced, unsuitable information from the page. Please do not re-add it. Ooh Bunnies! Not just any bunnies... 22:51, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bunnies :) Embear, what happened was that I was checking over recent changes to the page, and the way it displayed to me, I saw what you had added but didn't notice that there was other problematic stuff on there. Thanks for letting us know that I missed some stuff! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:03, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

thanks
I did nto realize that i saved it and did nto click preview. Thanks for mentioning it to me. I will take care 113.193.125.152 (talk) ami —Preceding undated comment added 17:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC).

Spontaneous human combustion
Crap! Looks like I need some of that coffee too! SQGibbon (talk) 20:46, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol. Between the two of us we managed to muster something resembling one functional brain. Yay collaboration! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
Did you know that you can block users on Huggle?  Wayne  Slam 01:44, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, yes, I did know that. In fact, most of my blocks are through huggle. Why do you ask? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:45, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because one of your recent blocks weren't on Huggle.  Wayne  Slam 01:48, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ...indeed. When I want to investigate a situation further before acting, I open the involved pages up on-wiki and deal with it from there. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:51, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2011 CUOS appointments
Your candidate subpage has been created and transcluded to the above-noted location.

Please answer the standard questions and also keep watch for additional questions that may be posted by the community.

Thank you again for your offer to serve as a functionary. – xeno talk 12:44, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Abuse of Twinkle
I'm sorry, I just saw your edit summary go by and had to laugh, so: --Lexein (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

What have you got against Jesus
WHY DUDE??!?!?!WHY!!!!!!! :'(
 * Got nothing against jesus. Lots against people vandalising Wikipedia, though. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I swear......stem cell research did begin in 1821! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.34.124 (talk) 17:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC) Because it was me who did it>>>>for i am JESUS!!!!:O:O:O (theatrical gasp) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.34.124 (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * A bit conceited to run about vandalising articles to talk about how much you love yourself then, isn't it? Surely messiahs are supposed to be humble and modest. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:57, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

i was testing your faith and you failed.....in epic proportions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.34.124 (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You fail a prophecy in the Bible: it says that the coming of Jesus will be everywhere and for everyone: and you have an IP address and therefore must be appearing in one place and to only those who read Wikipedia. We can safely say you're not Jesus. -- 1 2 3 Ħeðŋeħøŋ  4 5 6  18:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

fair play child.....but don't i contradict the old testament of the bible in parts of my teachings in the new testament???maybe i am just contradicting the new testament now?to make the new new testament on fluffy dudes chat page thing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.34.124 (talk) 18:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

MDPV Question
Well Then Can You Please Tell Me If Its Illegal/Controlled In Australia?... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.216.57.22 (talk) 19:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have no way of knowing the answer to that. Please don't continue to vandalise the article. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Well Then... Yer A Dickhead... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.216.57.22 (talk) 20:00, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Update on courses and ambassador needs
Hello, Ambassadors!

I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.

On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.

Courses looking for Online Ambassadors
Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!

Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:
 * Sociology of Poverty
 * Architectural Design
 * Introduction to Educational Psychology
 * Intro to Mass Communication
 * Psychology Seminar
 * Theories of the State
 * Advanced Media Studies

Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:


 * Housing and Social Policy
 * Anthropology, Wikipedia, and the Media
 * History & Systems
 * Horror Cinema
 * Digital Media... just bits in a box
 * Composition I
 * Telecommunications Management
 * Training Systems
 * Stigma: Culture, Deviance, Identity
 * Art and Terrorism
 * Political Violence and Insurgency

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

frank pavone
darling there are two links to PROPER source in discussion page! What is more reliable then Rev Zurcke letter about the suspension to other bishops?? please enlighten me. 50.9.109.170 (talk) 20:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to actually cite the sources in the article. Because this is an article about a living person, all negative additions must be well-sourced where they're added. It doesn't matter if they're on the talk page; it matters if you put them in the article when you add the negative content. I see that you've now added the text with sources; that's what you needed to do. Happy editing! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Herman Cain Edit war
I am reasonably confident that I am doing this wrong, for which I apologize in advance, but I think your attention is needed for the Herman Cain article, which is the subject of a potential edit war. A non-confirmed (?) editor has twice deleted sourced content without explanation. Is there anything that I should do or you can do to reduce the chances of an escalation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lahaun (talk • contribs) 04:22, 29 September 2011 (UTC)  And, I cannot believe I forgot to sign my original comment. Lahaun (talk) 04:31, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Asking the IP to discuss on the talk page was the right first step. There's a couple of ways this could go, basically. In the best case, the IP stops reverting and goes to the talk page, and the two of you hash out what should be in the article. In the less-good case, the reverting continues (and I should remind you here that you, too, are bound by the three-revert rule, even if you think the IP is vandalising by removing the information - this is essentially a content dispute, and content disputes are not exempt from 3RR). At that point, you have a few options. You could report the IP for edit warring at WP:ANEW, but keep in mind that they look at the behavior of BOTH editors when there's a report there, and if you had been continuing to revert the IP's reversions, you would probably be in trouble too. You could request page protection if there are multiple users refusing to engage in discussion about their changes, but to show that they're refusing to engage, you need to have actually tried to discuss it with them, either on the article talk or on their talk. If you've tried to discuss and the IP continues to refuse to engage, you could also post a rundown of the situation on WP:ANI, the administrators' noticeboard, or to WP:DRN, the dispute resolution noticeboard, to try to get more eyes on the situation.


 * Really, the bottom line here is that whatever route you take, it needs to start with you trying to discuss the issue with the IP. They don't have to be the one to start a talk page thread; you can do that just as well, and then point them to it. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Impatience and pederasty.
Please be patient. I am trying to improve the article. The fact that I did't have the references yet is a weak argument for your non-constructive edits. If you are really interested, in google news, search for "pederasty". The no. 1 person referenced as giving clarification on this in newsprint is David Norris. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.182.234 (talk) 22:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, because Norris is a living person and being associated with pederasty is a potentially damaging thing, you must source the statement when you add it to the article. Unless and until it has a reliable source supporting exactly what you're adding, you simply cannot add the content to the article, because adding potentially negative information about a living person without proper sourcing puts Wikipedia in legal jeopardy. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Regarding my new page
hey, I have created a new page on "Credit Control". Currently it is in my user space draft. I would request you to go through check if there is any copyright violation this time. I have tried my best not to make any copy-vios this time. Once you will approve i will post it on the main page. link to my user space draft - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anu2033/Credit_Control

Thank you!

Anu2033 (talk) 05:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Anu, this is something you should really be asking your Ambassadors to do - I think you have both an online one and a campus one, and they're there to help you figure out how to do things right and wrong. I gave your page a very quick check, and if there are copyvios there, I didn't spot them (though in some areas, I could very clearly tell which source you used from a google search, just by what words you repeated), but I have no familiarity with the subject and I can't really approve or disapprove of your work enough to tell you to move it into mainspace. Your Ambassador(s) are better suited to helping you with that. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for going through my page.. My campus ambassador has already gone through it and said me to post it in the main space. Still if u find any copy-vios please let me know so that i can rectify that part and prevent it form getting deleted.

Thank you!

Anu2033 (talk) 09:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Huggle template testing
Hey Fluffernutter,

You may not have noticed, but you're currently part of a little experiment Steven Walling and I are running on en.wiki: we're A/B testing Huggle templates to see if changing the content of their message has any effect on the user that receives them. We've been running the test since Sunday and will turn it off in two days and analyze all the data we've collected (over 1500 users Huggled as of yesterday!), but I wanted to get some unscientific feedback from some of the folks I noticed using our templates &ndash including you :)

So, first thing's first: did you happen to notice that you were sending out different templates? And, more importantly, did you notice any difference on your talk page? More or less people than usual coming to talk to you? More or less vandalism or constructive questions?

Thanks a lot! And if you're interested in helping us tweak more templates, please let me know! We only tested the level 1 vandalism warning this week, but we're thinking of revamping the other level 1 warnings (test, NPOV, blanking, etc.) too. --Maryana (WMF) (talk) 18:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I did notice that the templates were differing, and I think this research is a great idea! However, I don't think I've really noticed any different on my talk page (the only real difference I've noticed lately, actually, is that the determined vandals are now using WikiLove to tell me I'm a jerk!). I would be very interested to see the other level 1 templates getting revamped - I get a whole lot of questions regarding "but why did you remove the negative BLP content I added! I swear the sources are out there on the internet!", so it seems like the BLP template, at the very least, could use a more informative (approachable? understandable? "in your face"?) approach. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Interesting... thank you! I also noticed, just randomly poking around in the data we have so far, that there were a number of WikiLove messages sent to Hugglers. Some were obviously meant to be snarky, but some weren't – I think for anyone new to Wikipedia, good-faith or not, it's way easier to use WikiLove to deliver a talk page message than it is to figure out how to edit/save one manually. There were also quite a few replies to the warnings on the talk page of the Huggle recipient (Hugglee?). We'll gather up and analyze all that and let you know the numbers when we have them.


 * Steven is working on drafting some new templates. I'll drop the link here when he's migrated them to the wiki. Thanks again for your help and feel free to pitch in :) --Maryana (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Westminister City School
Hi, I wanted you to know I was removing the info regarding the non-notable event that you had reverted. This is a SPA who's only edits were to constantly re-add this event, and may be linked to the IPs who were adding this event as well. Wildthing61476 (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like there's a sourced section (not unsourced, as your edit summary claims) about a fairly notable incident, which is being removed by a (now-blocked) SPA, not that there's an SPA adding it. I don't see any current discussion of the issue on the article's talk page; could you explain what happened between this and this to make you think that the trouble is the addition of the material? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt-in but this looks like over-zealous Twinkling. I've had the page on my watchlist for a few years and it tends to pop up a couple of times a year with an IP or new user trying to remove the section about the crime only to be reverted and give up. The level of vandalism from User: Give the boys a chance is quite rare but given that they have now been banned it will probably subside.  raseaC talk to me 17:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Gaaah more twinkling that a Twilight vampire! Sorry about the mess I made. Wildthing61476 (talk) 18:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, no worries. Throw the section back into the article and we can all pretend nothing twinkly ever happened :D A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:33, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Aw, thank you Tom! That's quite the nicest thing anyone's said to me in a while! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:12, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Navy pier revert - please review - thanks
Please review this revert - thanks. 2.26.128.213 (talk) 14:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, yeah, I kind of made a judgment call on that one. You added a link to a site selling tickets to the attraction, which is a bit spammish, even if it also verifies the wheel's height. Is there any chance you can find a third-party source for the height, instead? We generally don't link to sales sites in Wikipedia articles. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:36, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The source is the official website. They don't seem to mention the height on any other page. 2.26.128.213 (talk) 14:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, if it's the only source available, I guess it'll have to do, even if it makes my batsense tingle. Go ahead and add it back to the article. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:40, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Just found a better one, will replace it now. Would appreciate it if you could do something with my talk page though. 2.26.128.213 (talk) 14:43, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed the warning. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sorry I didn't find the better ref first (my WP edits are often done in quiet moments between other tasks). 2.26.128.213 (talk) 14:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Getty Images
Hi Fluffernutter, I saw that you removed the Copyright Enforcement section of the Getty Images page. Would it not be better to tidy the section up rather than simply delete it? The section appears to have a factual basis so deletion seems a bit extreme. Asteuartw (talk) 20:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There was very little salvageable content in that section, actually. It contained a whole lot of POV and links to blogs and anti-Getty websites, and not a lot in the way of neutral, sourced, or relevant content. With that in mind, I felt that the best option was just to remove all the POV content.
 * If you'd like to have a go at cleaning it up, you're welcome to, but I suggest that you work it up in a sandbox or on the article's talk page while you try to figure out what amount of weight such accusations should have in the article (certainly it shouldn't be a duplicated section, longer than any other section of the article; more conceivably, it could be a one- or two-sentence mention) and what reliable sources are actually available on the topic (blog aren't reliable for something like this, neither are self-appointed "watchdog" sites). A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Ken Sibanda
To clarify, this could still be deleted even though the AfD discussion was active? Calabe1992 (talk) 14:33, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I understand the guidelines, yep. He was still the only substantive editor of the article, and the AfD was entirely delete votes other than him and an SPA IP. An AfD existing doesn't preclude a speedy. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk)
 * Alright, I will take that into account. Now off to take down a bunch of needless warnings... :) Calabe1992 (talk) 14:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

75.150.50.201
He's back at the foot pads page w/o an account. Calabe1992 (talk) 15:19, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think User:Treeelf85 may be him again; see the post about foot pads. Calabe1992 (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weird, the autoblock should have caught that IP unless he changed IPs really quickly. Semi'd the page. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Glossary of medicinal properties in herbalism
Thought I needed to do that before suggesting a move to Wiktionary, so that it's pre-prepared? 86.176.222.245 (talk) 20:11, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry, that revert and warning was me screwing up and hitting the wrong button. I think I've undone both of them now, carry on and pretend you didn't get the treat of seeing me be stupid :S A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:12, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, don't worry about it. =) 86.176.222.245 (talk) 22:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

A new medical resource
Please note that there is a new freely accessible medical resource, MedMerits (to which I'm a medical advisor) on neurologic disorders. A discussion on ELs to MedMerits and medical ELs in general is currently in progress ("Wikipedia and its relationship to the outside world"). Presto54 (talk) 16:58, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

My arteries hate you
Having been assured by you that a fluffernutter is indeed a sandwich, I decided to try one. Marshmallow spread being a pretty unusual foodstuff in the UK, I chose to use real marshmallows, and heated the resultant sandwich to ensure spreadability. The result - a fried fluffernutter - has simultaneously opend my eyes to a delicious new snack concept, and brought the inevitable coronary forward by at least five years. Thus, whilst I thank you for bringing the joy of fluffernutters into my life, my hardening arteries convey their intense contempt. Yunshui (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmm, but it's such a delicious way to cause a coronary! I'm glad my signature is spreading the good news across the pond A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

What's going on at Celcius page?
I'm trying to revert it back to the version from 22 Sep 2011, before 90.194.89.24 started changing it, but it won't let me. He changed the value of absolute zero in C, to one that doesn't match any source I can find. Balbber123 (talk) 17:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind, sorry, I see that's what you did, I thought you'd only reverted one/two edits. Balbber123 (talk) 17:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Full protect at Pecker Dunne
Agree that intervention was needed but could this be dropped to semi? I think we can agree ChrisPsi's intervention was well intended. Best RashersTierney (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Gah, did I full protect it? I intended to semi! Let me go look... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, I did what I thought - semi-protected it. Are you unable to edit it? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right. Sorry for the fuss over nothing. Mea culpa. Keep up the good work. RashersTierney (talk) 19:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Phew! :D A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

policy on potentially offensive material on Talk pages
Hi, see - is this allowable? WP:TPO doesn't appear to cover potentially offensive material. AV3000 (talk) 11:54, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, that's not ok, as it's clearly not a constructive edit. I've removed it. Thanks for letting me know about it. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 12:09, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Remember those templates we mentioned?
The list of new ones we're going to test (now that we're done with the generalized level 1 warnings so far) is... We're watching all the talk pages, if you're in the mood to help us tinker before we launch them this week. :) Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   01:22, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) uw-test1-rand
 * 2) uw-delete1-rand
 * 3) uw-npov1-rand
 * 4) uw-unsor1-rand
 * 5) uw-error1-rand
 * 6) uw-blank1-rand
 * 7) uw-spam1-rand
 * 8) uw-bio1-rand
 * 9) uw-attack1-rand
 * Ooh, interesting. Lessee here.


 * 1) uw-test1-rand
 * 2) *Looks good
 * 3) uw-delete1-rand
 * 4) *"In the future, it would be really helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary" probably ought to say something about not removing without summary, rather than just saying a summary would be useful. Something like "In the future, it would be best if you do not make changes removing content without describing why in the edit summary"?
 * 5) ** I actually intentionally encouraged them to use edit summaries in general. Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   20:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) uw-npov1-rand
 * 7) *Looks good
 * 8) uw-unsor1-rand
 * 9) *I think "I noticed you made a change to an article, but that you didn’t verify your edit" should read something more like "...but you didn't provide verification for your edit." The verb form kind of makes it sound, if they don't click the wikilink, like they're expected to check the truth of the edit for themselves, not like they're supposed to provide the verification for others.
 * 10) ** ✅ Good suggestion. Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk
 * 11) uw-error1-rand
 * 12) *Looks good
 * 13) uw-blank1-rand
 * 14) *The test version neglects to give the user options for what to do if they removed the content because there was a problem or they want it deleted. Give them back some information about reverting and/or deleting.
 * 15) ** ✅ Monty845 had the same suggestion. :) Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   20:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) uw-spam1-rand
 * 17) *Looks good
 * 18) uw-bio1-rand
 * 19) *The use of "verify" again feels a little bit off to me. Maybe "support"?
 * 20) ** ✅ Thanks! Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   20:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) uw-attack1-rand
 * 22) *Looks good


 * Other than some wording tweaks, I really like the alternate versions of most of these. We've had a tendency to boil everything down to terse sentences and wikilinks in the past, and I think splurging on a few more words in the warnings will be worth the bits we spend. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just looked at your comments on someone else's talk and realized you were hoping we'd comment on each template's individual talk. It seemed a bit scattershot to spread my comments among a whole bunch of templates, which is why I figured you meant commenting here. Feel free to copy my comments to the template talks if you think it'll be useful; just drop me a line letting me know. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 12:32, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, I caught it and plan to incorporate your feedback today. Also, speaking of coordination stuff, I was thinking we might need a taskforce page or something to keep tabs on all this template stuff. Do you think that'd be useful? I don't want to ruffle the feathers of WP:UW or anyone by duplicating their work, but a single tracking page and talk page might be useful. Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   18:34, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Pierre Lewis
Hi,

You declined speedy deletion of the Pierre Lewis page, noting "Having a chart-topping single is a credible assertion of importance" however there is no verificaton or reference that supports this claim, I have researched via google and the official charts web site and there is no record of "Pierre Lewis" having a single or album charting within the UK or US top 100. Thank-you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.241.60 (talk • contribs)
 * Hi. First of all, please don't post talk page comments in the middle of other people's comments; it makes it very hard to spot them. Second, speedy deletion is for uncontroversial deletions. The speedy deletion of this article has been declined multiple times; the deletion is clearly not uncontroversial, no matter what your research says. If you wish for the article to be deleted, you need to PROD or AFD it; speedy deletion is no longer ok. Please undo your re-addition of the db template to the article if someone else hasn't done it already. 18:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you for the reply, and apologies for commenting in the wrong place.

You still did not answer the fact that the "Having a chart-topping single is a credible assertion of importance" claim is not backed up by any refrence or verifiable source, clearly my research shows that there is un-verifiable claims on this page. It may not be an uncontroversial deletion, but you were incorrect in your statement "Having a chart-topping single is a credible assertion of importance" because there is NO chart topping single or otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.140.23 (talk) 21:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Are User:212.183.140.23 and User: 86.25.241.60 the same person? You're contributing from two very different IPs, and haven't acknowledged that you're one person. That's a bit problematic, as we've been treating you like two different people, and you've edited as though you were two different people. Please don't do that; if you're able to, use one IP only, and if you're not able, please add a note in your edit summaries or on your talk page (or the article's talk page) that you're one person.


 * In regard to your claims about whether or not the single was adequate assertion of importance, what I'm telling you is that there is currently a sourced sentence in the article that the artist had a chart-topping single. That means it's a credible claim of importance, enough so that I will not delete the article out of hand. Once it's cleared that bar, it still has to clear the bars of notability, etc (keep in mind that "a claim of importance" - needed to avoid speedy deletion - is a much, much lower standard than "notability" - needed for the article to pass an AfD), which is where the idea of "investigating" his notability and doing searches for other sources comes in. THOSE things are discussed in AfD, where we can dig more in-depth into the notability of the topic. So what I'm telling you is not "this article will never, ever be deleted." What I'm telling you is "the process you've been trying to use so far isn't capable of deleting this article; try the next-step-up process". Does that make more sense? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:27, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have now registered with a user name, so there should be no more confusion as to who I am.

Yes you have made the deletion process and policy clear for me now, thank-you for that, as I am still new to wikipedia it is taking me a while to get the hang of things. I am concerned to notice that the Pierre Lewis page is now protected and I cannot request a deletion discussion in AFD - I think the protection was placed because I was not supporting my deletion by creating the AFD log? I does one request the page is not protected, so that I may continue my editing there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobcat1111 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Theistic evolution
I stumbled across the Theistic evolution page, and while I know the people who made that page and the evolution page are stupid people who don't have a brain of their own, I was still a little mad when I saw it said "modern scientific understanding of evolution" implying that it was more than Italic a theory text. It is not a proven fact, just a theory, and I was Italic not text violating the neutral Wikipedia policy. If, and I believe you do, you believe in evolution, then I highly suggest you read the website titled Evolution is Stupid. It is an e-book is aimed at people who believe in evolution, though I read it and enjoyed it, it was also humorous at times. You can debate with him on the feedback page, as others have done. He is very informed, so you can't call him "ignorant". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdog556 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Wikipedia adheres to a neutrality policy, especially regarding scientific and pseudoscientific topics, which means we don't put opinionated content in articles. You were clearly trying to push an agenda in changing the text to stress the word "theory", so that wasn't ok. I myself an not interested in debating religion, though I thank you for the offer. Please familiarise yourself with our guidelines and be aware that editing wikipedia with the goal of changing articles to support a religion is going to run you into trouble. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay now you are being a little bit annoying. I was showing the facts. I wasn't trying to push religion, and I don't want to debate with you about religion. Evolution is just a theory. Evolutionists try not to talk about the fact that it is a theory. It's a theory. It is a fact that it is a theory. I know I keep saying that over and over again, but I'm a little annoyed that people won't just admit that it is a theory. It has not and probably never will be proven. I did nothing wrong. If I could, I would have said it was a theory on the main evolution page, but it was apparently closed off to editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdog556 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Suspicions regarding User:The Regimental Goat
Hi,

The hilarity factor of the actions by "The Regimental Goat" makes me think that it definitely has something to do with some IRC canvassing or someone getting really bored there and getting back at some of you (IRC-addicted admins :P) by this. Am I right or is it just another GNAA-like action instead?

P.S. And BTW I'm the guy who you got particularly mad at when we were arguing about fatties and later about Peter's GF(s?) :P -- CoolKoon (talk) 19:47, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thanks for your fix on my talk page, I appreciate it. --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Notice
WikiPuppies! (bark) 14:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm watching the ANI thread, so you don't need to give me tb notices for this one in the future. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Baseball Bugs' block
Hi. The BB thread has been completed prior to my reading it (I've been too busy to ANI-watch recently). I support the decision, as did you, on the grounds that the block was untimely, and possibly undue. However I wanted to let you know that while you may be in the minority in how you perceived BB's remark, you're certainly not alone. BB's comments clearly intend to blame Medeis's negative behavior (of failing to communicate, acting poorly, being unable to pull off subtle sarcasm, whatever) on Medeis's gender is clearly a form of sexism. Pointing that out is not "political correctness", it's calling a spade a spade. Once upon a time, back when I was in high school and college, I too used to rail against "PC rules". Then, by grad school, I actually learned something about the subject, and found out that most of the alleged extremes of Political correctness never even existed, but were made up as parodies by those wishing to perpetuate various forms of discrimination. People who say, "it's just a word" fail to understand the purpose of language and how it operates, and how language is an integral part of how systems perpetuate inequalities. Maybe I'm going farther than you would, I don't know. But I, too, found the comment to be in poor taste. It probably wasn't a blockable comment, but I think our work would be better here (on WP, on the Internet, on Earth) if people would try to avoid such language. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Qwyrxian. It means an incredible amount to hear someone say that out loud, because I've gotten a lot of feedback in the past few days about my comment there, and most of it focused on telling me how terrible a person I was for daring to speak a word about how his comment wasn't constructive. I agree with you that the block was probably best undone, but I simply cannot fathom how so many people are able to look at the conversation Bugs was in and go "yep, not a toe out of line here! string up anyone who says otherwise!" I had better hopes for the community's understanding of gender sensitivity, especially since the NYT articles about it and the gendergap mailing list being set up. Sigh. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Oversight kitten says "congratulations"
Did you know that on Citizendium, oversight and checkuser were called "dark knight"? Congratulations on becoming one of Wikipedia's new dark knights. Use the force discretely and for great justice.

—Tom Morris (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Congrats Fluffy! Please don't oversight me :X   !--v/r - TP 19:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. I'll try to not kill too many server kittens. Or oversight any rogue Starfleet pilots! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations :-)
Welcome to the oversight team! FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 22:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Please review these blocks
There was a bug in MediaWiki 1.18 that caused blocks made via the API to have talk page access disabled when it should have been enabled. This also affected scripts such as User:Animum/easyblock.js. Please review the following blocks to make sure that you really intended talk page access to be disabled, and reblock if necessary. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post at User talk:Anomie. Thanks! Anomie⚔ 02:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-07T20:17:51Z, expires 2011-10-14T20:17:51Z:
 * 2)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-07T21:00:08Z, expires 2011-10-14T21:00:08Z:
 * 3)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T15:15:11Z, expires 2011-11-05T15:15:11Z:
 * 4)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-11T16:19:22Z, expires 2011-11-11T16:19:22Z: Vandalism
 * 5)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T14:47:05Z, expires 2012-01-05T14:47:05Z:
 * 6)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T14:23:35Z, expires 2012-10-05T14:23:35Z:
 * 7)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T14:55:39Z, expires infinity: Vandalism-only account
 * 8)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T15:38:48Z, expires infinity: Vandalism
 * 9)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T15:42:22Z, expires infinity: Vandalism-only account
 * 10)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-05T15:46:42Z, expires infinity: Vandalism
 * 11)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-06T14:58:31Z, expires infinity: Vandalism
 * 12)  by Fluffernutter at 2011-10-10T20:44:26Z, expires infinity: Vandalism
 * Man, I thought I'd gotten all my buggy blocks, but I missed all of those. Fixed now. Thanks! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 02:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Introduction
Hey Fluffernutter, Let me just formally introduce myself. I am one of the Campus Ambassadors of the India Education Program. Let me just compliment you on the awesome job you have done, are doing and continue to do for this program. As you are handling the classes assigned to me, I just thought I'd introduce myself and state that you can revert back to me on my talk page to quickly spread any message or so directly onto the students. Thanks a bunch for your help. Debastein1 (talk) 21:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Jay
Hi Fluff - when you have a moment, please take a look at User:Jayhammers. Even though the content isn't directed at a particular person, it still seems inappropriate to me, especially given his other personal attacks. I asked Jay to alter it yesterday and he hasn't responded - since I'm involved in content disputes with him, I figure I probably shouldn't directly edit his userpage myself. Kevin (talk) 00:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Created a new Article and requesting feedback and suggestions
Hi. Requesting feedback and advice on the Article I have created. I am a graphic novel enthusiast and am naturally happy about high quality graphic novels starting up in India. This Wiki is about a particularly good and popular Indian graphic comic/novel and would appreciate feedback, suggestions and advice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Varunr/Level10_Comics Varunr (talk) 05:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, it looks like a very good start to an article! My main suggestion would be that you add some more content that establishes the company's notability - right now there's not a lot in there showing that the company has been recognized as particularly special or notable by third parties. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate it. I have added more citations and cleaned up the external links for more notable mentions. Varunr (talk) 14:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Mind the gap!

 * Aww, thanks. It feels sort of odd to somehow have become one of outspoken ones...and yet I keep doing it! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Template testing project, now in Beta
Hey Fluffernutter, just wanted to let you know that we've teamed up with WikiProject user warnings on a template testing task force. We also have a hub on Meta for cross-wiki tests (we're planning on trying this out on Portuguese and possibly other projects in the near future). Please join up if you're interested in helping with more template testing! Thanks, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 17:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22
You are invited to Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and lectures that will be held on Saturday, October 22, 2011, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and here !--Pharos (talk) 04:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hermiod
Hi Fluff - If you have some extra time, as an uninvolved administrator, would you mind taking a look at the behavior of Hermiod on the talk page of men's rights? He has been making a lot of unfounded anti-AGF'y allegations about the motivations of other editors, and has not been willing to stop, even when asked to repeatedly. He also specified on a recent revision of his userpage that he does not desire to receive 'unsolicited communication from other users'. It seems like he's unwilling to follow some of our basic policies like WP:AGF even after he has been familiarized with them, and seems like he's unwilling to communicate with other users - both of which seem concerning to me, since they are pretty fundamental ideas in our community. Kevin (talk) 08:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Coincidentally, he just left a note on my talk page. Kevin (talk) 08:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh, what a mess. I would suggest you put together some diffs of what you perceive to be his problematic behavior, and post them and a summary on the thread he opened on WP:DRN. It looks like WP:RS and WP:VNT are particular bones of contention on the talk page; perhaps highlight where those things are coming up and how they're being handled or not being handled. Basically, you're going to want to use the opportunity of the DR thread to get some neutral parties looking at the issue. Sometimes neutral parties can get a point through to someone that an opponent can't. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:36, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops, as I was writing this it looks like someone closed the DRN thread. I think you should probably still do what i suggested - compile diffs and a short summary of what's going wrong, which is not limited to Hermiod or to you - and bring the issue to ANI. The factions are too entrenched on the article talk for progress to ever really happen without outside intervention. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Legume
So correcting blatant lies is disruptive is it? As far as i know disruptive edditing would be more like undoing edits like mine that are correcting misinformation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.90.213 (talk) 15:28, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're removing cited, neutral content and replacing it with "this article is wrong, wrong, wrong" and a link to a vegetarian-lifestyle-promoting blog. Both of those actions are, indeed, disruptive. If you wish to contest the truth of the content, that isn't done by blanking it, and it isn't done by replacing it with a link to a persona, bloggy website. You'll need to use news articles, journal articles, or other reliable sources that don't have a strong point of view. I would also suggest you discuss your disagreement on the article's talk page. if you continue to just remove content wholesale, you may be blocked. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Move request
Hey Fluffernutter, I'm just wondering if you can help me with a page move. It was named quite a long time ago when many were not familiar with naming conventions. The article Annie Douglas Richards needs moving to Annie Douglas - per COMMONNAME. The character has only ever been named as Annie Douglas and Annie Richards when she married another character. Though she was known as Douglas for longer in her duration and all the sources refer to her as Douglas. Rain the One  BAM 22:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't really handle page moves. I would suggest that you request a move at WP:RM, where it'll get handled by people who know what they're doing :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for getting back to me. :) Rain the One  BAM 00:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

You acquire a DELICIOUS SANDWICH.

 * *cue the "Item Get!" tune from Zelda Games* LikeLakers2 (talk &#124; Sign my guestbook!) 01:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Join WP:ROALD!
-- We hope you can join Mayhem  Mario  19:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have wikiproject ADD and tend to join and then forget without ever doing anything useful, but I'll take a look! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Nice restful job for you :o)
The Meermin slave mutiny. Pesky ( talk  …stalk!) 23:39, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Conflicting blocks
The block you placed here conflicts with another block placed there less than a minute beforehand. Your's is indefinite, while the other is for 31 hours. One of the blocks should be removed. SMP0328. (talk) 03:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you, I noticed that right after it went through. Should be fixed now. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 03:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:UWTEST members update
Hi, you're getting this message because you signed up to receive updates at WP:UWTEST, the task force on testing of user warnings and other notifications.

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Thanks!
For the heads up on the spam. I am not sure why it gets popular for people to hijack examples once a month, but they do. Science 2.0 (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Block settings for Proofplus
Given that has apparently mass-emailed several users (I'm one), did you mean to leave her ability to email other users, or were you going to revoke that as well? —C.Fred (talk) 23:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been pondering that. I wasn't sure if it was only me he hit, so initially I left it talkpage-only. Since its multiple people, though, I'll go adjust the block. Thanks for letting me know! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

semi protect
Please semi protect my talk page, it's not the first time this has happened.  Puffin  Let's talk! 19:27, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Done! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

User:Fluffernutter2
Just to make sure, the above user isn't you i suppose? Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 21:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, most emphatically not me! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Sepp Blatter
I'd like to invite you to a discussion regarding Sepp Blatter, please see the talk page. Regards IJA (talk) 14:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Protection on biographies
Hi there,

I noticed you semi-protected the page of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Ifft because someone vandalized it.

I noticed the same person did that with some other pages too, could you protected those too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/167.93.28.72 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.96.160.124 (talk) 20:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)