User talk:Frazzydee/Archive2

Hi, here's my talk page. Feel free to put anything you want here. If it's here, then you can assume that I've seen it. It's my policy not to delete mostly any messages here, but please don't vandalize this page. I will revert obvious vandalism that obstructs other people's view of my page. Thanks in advance for leaving a message! The reason for this policy is that I believe comments on this page- even if it's an attack against me- offer insight into what other user's think of me.

This page has never been archived. For your reading pleasure, I don't plan to archive it. Scratch that, this page is getting huge. I will blank every 100 comments, with a link to each archival copy (I want to preserve the diffs that I've often use as 'evidence').

I reserve the right to make slight modifications to people's comments, providing that it doesn't change the meaning. I promise not to change the body of people's text, but I may sign it for them if they forgot (I'll put it in [brakets], and make a note of it somewhere). I also might move comments, or add titles to people's comments if they didn't do it themselves. Whatever I decide to change, will be an obvious modification, usually denoted by [brackets]. Signing under somebody else's name will not be tolerated. Do so, and your comment will be deleted without consideration.

DO NOT REVERT ANYTHING ON THIS PAGE!!! Unless of course you're reverting a revert

Regardless of whether somebody has vandalized this page, attacked me personally, etc., I will deal with vandalism on THIS page on a case-by-case basis. On the other hand, reverting vandalism on my userpage would be much appreciated, and I have no problems with that. My personal policy is not to delete anything unless it obstructs other people's view of this page. I believe that messages on this page- inflammatory or not- give people potentially valuable insight on the type of contributor I am on Wikipedia.

This page was reverted once. I didn't see any reasonable way of preserving the message, and the user modified other people's comments.

To everybody who posts here: Please sign your name with four tildes (like this: ~ ). It makes it a lot easier for everybody (especially myself) to find out who said what. If you have something against time stamps, then I have no problem if you use three tildes, just make sure you post to the bottom of the page, so that everything is in chronological order.

(Archives: 1bak)

admin
No, I'm not and haven't been one here. I tried a self-nomination once, but it failed. I am an admin on Wikipedia. -- Netoholic @ 01:51, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

[hi]
LUPO IS A FUCKING FAGGISH MOTHER FUCKER BY RYAN M [-24.244.192.130]
 * ''talk page was blanked, and this message was added. Title was chosen based on summary. Please see '

Vacuum
Why haven't you blocked Vacuum? It has broken the 3RR.--Jirate 16:15, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)

[none]
what a fucker! [-24.62.31.167]

Copyrights
While the paladin press page might have been copyrighted I just want to say that the articles on American Dragon and Isometric exercises were not found at the sites you specified. And I think that to an extent the widespread use of those articles across the internet is proof that there is no copyright. If you run a search of the text I posted you eill find it on multiple sites. And finally while I apoligize if I violated any copyrights my only intention was to get the articles started so others could edit them.--Gary123 23:27, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I also want to add that I believe all three of my articles are important enough to deserve to be in wikipedia one being a major printg press that was invovled in a major legal battle, the other an animated television series on a major network, and the third an important exercise use by one of the most famous exercising systems of all time Dynamic Tension by Charles atlas. For those reasons i think even if my information is copyrighted you should at least leave a small stub to start off those articles.--Gary123 23:38, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

When I said that I didn's copy them from the sites you specified what I meant was that they were taken from  sites other than the ones you mentioned. Which means that these passages are pretty widespread across the internet especial the isometric exercise article which is word for world in a huge amount of websites.--Gary123 00:06, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC) == Headline text == == Headline text == == Headline text ==
 * I 'd the above text.  See  -Frazzydee|&#9997; 01:04, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Uh... O_O
I've gotten a message saying my IP did some sort of test? Huh?

Uh... Not me. I'm at a University, so it might be someone else. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Thanks for the friendly reply. It startled me, because Ogdensburg is actually where I live. O_O

Quite odd.

Just the thing, though. My University is half an hour away from Ogdensburg. O_o

[none]
You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. Please note that page blanking, addition of random text, deliberate misinformation, and repeated and blatant violation of WP:NPOV are considered vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may come back after the block expires.
 * No, I didn't actually get blocked. This is vandalism.  See  -Frazzydee|&#9997; 01:52, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DanP
I don't know if DanP's [User talk:DanP|user talk] page is on your watchlist. It is currently on mine. He has asked you for evidence of the 3RR breach. I am not going to get involved, since I may say something I might regret (DanP frequently describes edits he disagrees with as vandalism - a habit I find infuriating). - Jakew 22:22, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DanP's violation of the 3RR
If you look on his Talk: page, you'll note he was warned about this already back on December 16, 2004, so it's not like he doesn't know. As well, rather than being contrite, or suggesting he wouldn't do it again, he characterized his reverts as removing "vandalism", when he was clearly involved in an edit war. I have little patience for people who deliberately violate the 3RR, particularly when they do it with disingenuous excuses. Jayjg |  (Talk)  23:15, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

A possible 3RR-violation
A friend asked me to point out these four reverts by Jakew  in a twenty four our period. This is only the second time I ever tattled about 3RR and the othertime was to help to add some weight to the more serious issue of personal attacks. I generally let this sort of thing slide, but my friend really would like me to report this for him. So now, here it goes:

On medical analysis of circumcision Jakew  made these edits:


 * 16:39, 24 Jan 2005 revert to 23:18, 23 Jan 2005
 * 20:32, 24 Jan 2005 revert to 18:23, 24 Jan 2005
 * 01:00, 25 Jan 2005 revert to 20:32, 24 Jan 2005
 * 13:09, 25 Jan 2005 revert to 12:44, 25 Jan 2005

Those are revert pairs. He has several version to which he reverts at random. He has four pairs there to which he reverted. Whether that counts as four reverts, I leave for you to decide.

¡Thanks!

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&#364;alabio 01:55, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)

WP:AN/Navbox
You might want to check out WT:AN. Noel (talk) 03:26, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reference List
Hi: Stumbled across the reference/cite check talk by accident. I'm new. Haven't contributed much; latest was Degenerate art Zosodada reverted & ripped me to shreds in less than 72 hours. I'm still perspiring, but that article looks nth degree encyclopedic now. I had to dig like a dog - my literary cites weren't convincing. Since I also spend a lot of time on the Ref Desk, I started my own list by "web farming" & categorizing: Arts; Business; News; Law; Inflation calculators - everything I can find. I just started; tedious checking links & determining they're useful. Something I tossed 2 days ago I needed the next. Is this helpful for your project, or a wasted effort? Naturally, I didn't set the page up right: Allie/Wikipedia Reference Desk. --allie 23:59, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry that the project lost momentum. Noticed that there is a Category:Reference & Category:Sources currently existing. many of my links overlap; but also found many that aren't on the list- ArtLex one example of a compendium that is valuable for fact checking. Also bumped into an error on ballet page - it's not "America Ballet Co." - it's "American Ballet Co." - and it's a video dictionary. Guess I should request a speedy delete of my page, then? --allie 13:41, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Strange edit at User talk:63.171.166.140
Hi. Did you make this edit on User talk:63.171.166.140? Or did someone make an edit on a machine you were using before you logged out? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 02:53, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

FA by Mail
Hi, Frazzydee. Thanks for reviving the Featured Article by Mail! Out of interest, I downloaded Kate's script, and it runs fine on my cygwin (a unix shell for windows) install, so if you ever need a vaykay, feel free to drop me a line. (Happy Belate-late-lated birthday!)  &mdash; MikeX (talk) 12:07, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

3RR
Eek! Thanks for letting me know. (duplicated on my user page). - Jakew 17:17, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Nicky Jam

 * I didn't insert the page on Nicky Jam. It was a newbie test that was somehow preserved by my insertion of the speedy notice.  Thank you for mentioning that I preserved it, but it was completely unknown by me and accidental.  Bart133 17:51, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

TFD
Sorry for any misunderstandings, there were two entries on TfD that said 'Template:Content dispute', so I removed one of them. Vacuum c 23:51, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

Re: James Cleverly
I think you have the wrong individual. Maybe you mean Rd232? - user:defunkt 18:37, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Even though you're the first person to leave me a message by mistake because of my welcome template, I'm surprised more people haven't. I could easily see myself doing the same thing, especially during the late hours I usually edit.  I'm going to change the sentence in question to something else and hope I don't cause this kind of confusion in the future.  And wow, over 1,000 contribs.  Thank you for your dedication =)  People like you make this site the invaluable resource it is for people like me, who barely (or don't) contribute but visit multiple times every day.   - user:defunkt 23:05, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Rael
You must admit it was a little funny. [-128.146.141.194]

Request
Hi Frazzydee. I wonder if I could ask for your help with something. A few days ago, User:Fvw set a block on me, which I believe was inappropriate. As far as I can tell, I didn't violate any policies, and the owner of the page concerned has since affirmed my beliefs. I'm trying to discuss this with Fvw, but I'm not having much luck. Please could you have a look at my attempt to discuss this, and tell me if I'm being unreasonable. If I'm not, could you try to talk to him on my behalf? Thanks. (I've also asked User:Geni) - Jakew 21:37, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I don't agree that what I did was wrong, and DanP doesn't seem to think so either (I guess since it's his user page he gets the last word...). Either way, it certainly wasn't user page vandalism as currently defined. My frustration at present is more with Fvw's arrogant refusal to discuss the matter than with the block itself - although I feel wronged, I can put it in the past if we could at least talk about it. Sorry - not your problem, I know. Anyway, thanks again for your comments, though I respectfully disagree. - Jakew 22:19, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Moved image
Thanks very much for the help and the tip. :) -Wild Bill 19:36, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

de:Benutzer:Frazzydee]
haie frazzdydee,

i translated your page .. just I dont know what the FA-Mail list means .. so i could not translate it ;o).. if you want to have it translated please tell me on my talk page! (I'm not watching your TP ....) ...Sicherlich 04:09, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * okay got it and changed the translation ;) .. "Artikel des Tages" it is in German ...for your idea; i have no oppinion on that .. but Apper tranlsted your offer; wish you the best for your idea! CU ...Sicherlich 04:30, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:Joseph McCarthy.jpg
Why did you remove protection from this image? It is going to be on the Main Page soon. --mav 18:14, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

NP :) --mav

User page revert
Thanks for reverting my user page after it was diapered by Bro. Larry and his mother/maid/friend/brother/or whatever member of the family he's naming himself after now. Joyous 22:21, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)

cite sources?
hi Faraaz -- what are we to use in place of Template:Cite sources now? dab (&#5839;) 19:59, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * thank you! Template:Unreferenced looks like it is going to stay with us, btw. regards, dab (&#5839;) 07:31, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi: Are you familiar with citing reference sourcework? I just made my 1st edit change, and my information contradicts what's in the article on Sylvester Graham. How do I check this? My reference is pretty good, I think: It's an Oxford Companion Encyclopedia. Also, I would be very interested to know what kinds of guidelines you use for plagiarism? Is listing a reference book enough? This is a sticky wicket with me, and I am very particular about this. Thank you, new user Otto. --Otto 21:56, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

->Thanks! Appreciated all those links & your double-check; it was very thoughtful, as it appears you are a busy person. I like the way you footnoted, but unfortunately, it's not on my special pages link. ->You shouldn't have to do my work for me... ->Ergo, my second question: Is there a magic place in the Wikipedia where I can read up & find out about citations, how to footnote, and how not to become Template:Unreferenced? The Manual of Style doesn't say how (Hot dang! Italics!) or where to put refs in the article you're working on?!?! It seems silly to have to double-check without them. ->What do you do? Look for well-polished writing and then think, hmmm...I'd better check this? That sounds like a double-negative to me. Then only sloppy, careless writing is rewarded, yet someone who does a lot of research and spends the effort to write an excellent piece (say, offline in Word) would be suspect, because a whole page suddenly appeared out of the blue. Hmph. ->I did stumble across the page on Wikipedia where you were determining what to do about referencing. Are you the coordinator, and may I become involved? or am I too new? ->Thank you for your help once again, and I don't mean to take up too much of your time with my questions. --Otto 02:40, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC) I'm not formatting this the right way, am I? Sorry. Off to the sandbox now.
 * Are you familiar with BookRags? Bookrags Literary References it's a pay site, but has quick, authorative bios: Alphabetical Index "G" Otto 12:47, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cheap little bastard
I am afraid I must take the moral high ground with respect to this comment you left on my talk page. You did not footnote or leave any reference to confirm that you are indeed a "cheap little bastard." I searched this in Google and I couldn't find any confirmation. Your sources, please? Otto 04:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * heh, heh. Glad that you took it in the spirit it was meant :0 You've been a great introduction to Wikipedia and your enthusiasm as well as your sense of humor is much appreciated! I am looking forward to contributing more on Wikipedia now, and perhaps one day, I too will proclaim that Wikipedia is my God for the source of wisdom...and thus become a member of the self-proclaimed "CLB" club! --Otto 18:25, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fact and Reference Check
I added the section == List of articles that have been referenced == on the main page because I wanted to see some articles that have been referenced. I don't think we have any yet :(. Do you know any completed articles that have been referenced actually on Wikipedia so I can see how it was done and apply it to articles I want to reference? --ShaunMacPherson 19:13, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Doug Malloy
I was looking at that page, it seems that he may have been a significant figure, although the content was clearly nonsense. Several pages link there, although I am not 100% convinced they should. What do you think? Rich Farmbrough 02:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I came to it from the VfD page. I am not sure whether this is notable or verifiable - I found some internet sources but they are hard to verify. I guess if it's worthwhile it will reappear in a better form. Rich Farmbrough 08:48, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Milgaard Page
Thanks for the encouragement, I actually did an ISU on Milgaard, Morin and a few other cases of Canadians wrongfully convicted a couple years ago and just found the old documents on my computer, so decided to run through them quickly and hopefully update some Wikipedia pages with the info I'd dug up on them...while bored I actually then went and made a page for Milgaard's lawyer that I've seen in the paper several times for various things (Hersh Wolch) It's always encouraging though when you take time out of your day to update a wikipedia reference, to know that somebody's actually seen it, and it's not just lost and useless in cyberspace :) btw, this is actually my first time using these talk pages, so I could be doing it completely wrong...guess I'll find out when I hit "save" :) --Sherurcij 06:55, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
I edited the brackets in wikilaser1.png that said "unspecified" to say "public domain". I hope that is how I am supposed to do it. I did the art, but its nothing precious-- so I assumed when I uploaded it that it would become wiki's property. Thank you for pointing out my options. --Kittyslave 08:56, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks mate :-)
So many people keep telling me that! I had no idea so many people were watching me admin... :P Anyway, I'll probably pop into IRC every now and again, but not too often as I'm thinking about doing a correspondence course, getting a new job and spending more time at my church. I have lots of people to look after in the outside world to be honest, and I reckon Wikipedia will do OK without me. But I'll be watching the site with a great deal of interest - and I might even do the odd edit. Take care, ok? - Ta bu shi da yu 10:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

TfD janitors
Hi, if you have this in hand, I'll stay out of your way (unless you'd like help there). Also. may I point you at Cleaning department; if you're going to continue on with taking care of TfD, you might want to note that there so people know it's covered. Thanks! Noel (talk) 14:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What is something good to work on?
Any topics need a helping hand?

Fact and Reference, redux
I see your recent note on my talk page expecting that members of this project will actively participate in the weekly work of checking. I joined the project to discuss strategies, not to do this particular type of work on articles outside my areas of expertise.

Should I take my name off of the list of participants? (Most WikiProjects do not have specific expectations on their members, and I guess I was unaware of this one when I signed up.) -- Jmabel | Talk 20:22, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:38, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Messages
For some reason, I received a message saying that I was blanking large portions of text. Considering it's taken me about five minutes to even figure out how to leave a message for you on this page, I'd suggest you check your logs again before accusing me of such things.


 * fermer la bouche


 * pwp 205.188.116.66]

Yo, Frazz!
Man, is it ever great to hear from you! Your message cheered me up. I've been spending entirely too much time fighting vandals and hanging around the "newpages" section for my own good. Driving myself nuts. Glad you're back...stay in touch! Don't make me come to Toronto to give you a noogie. - Lucky 6.9 19:03, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your message
This article is wrong in fact. There are affadavits that say this. I did what you asked and it got removed. This is biased reporting in the worse way.

Thank you
Thank you for supporting my adminship &mdash; I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 10:03, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * thank-you so much, much appreciated, pwp [-205.188.116.66]

Thanks also
for putting me right on CSD. I was under the impression, obviously mistaken, that blatant adverts came into the criteria. However I only nominate articles which always means that someone else looks at them before they are deleted. ping 08:18, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

revert 2620s
thanks for reverting to my ({del}} tag on 2620s DDerby 01:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Down the memory hole
This comment originally appeared in Village pump (policy) 10:54, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC). It was not only removed from the Pump, but from the Pump's history itself -- pure Orwellian censorship, and not by a common user, either.

If you think this is unacceptable, I hope you will work to preserve not only these remarks, but to discover the actor who obliterated them. &mdash; Xiongtalk 03:14, 2005 Apr 10 (UTC)

I have struck my charge of Orwellian revisionism; just because they're out to get you doesn't mean you're not paranoid. At the time I posted several copies of this around the project, I actually did fear that someone would systematically delete it without a trace.

You may wish to delete the box itself and replace with a link to User:Xiong/Minitrue. I will not consider that revisionism.&mdash; Xiong&#29066; talk 23:44, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

 Following process on Templates for deletion

'''Who are we? Why are we here?''' I'm not speaking of the entire project or our grand mission, only of the small group of regulars who work within TfD. What are we doing here?

Each one of us will have a different answer to that question; so to guide us in our efforts, we have a written process. Process should not act as a straitjacket, but as a way for us to agree to respect each other's differing views.

If all of us had the same exact opinion on each template, there would be no need for the Templates for deletion page -- not in its present form, at any rate. We would each individually mow down templates we found insupportable, and log the deletions. No need for debate, no need for discussion. And since we would all be in perfect agreement, we would have strong justification for refusing to hear appeals from other members of WP.

But it is not so. I think widget should stay and blivet should go; El Supremo thinks {widget} should go and {blivet} stay. Sometimes, we can discuss these issues and find a meeting ground. Maybe I can accept some changes to {widget}, with which El Supremo can tolerate its continued presence. But what do we do when after a week of wrangling, I still say "Widgets forever!" and El Supremo grunts, "Blivets or death!" -- what then?

Our process specifies that after seven days on TfD, if consensus is not reached, the nominated template is free to go -- the matter is over. We also say that a template should not be renominated for a month, if then. No good purpose is served by chewing old bones.

Recently, the nominated template divbox came to the end of its seven-day roasting. There was considerable controversy, a more or less even split of opinions (4 delete to 3 keep), and certainly nothing approaching consensus, or even overwhelming majority. Our process says {divbox} goes free, and that's the end of the matter -- at least, the end for this month. Those determined to keep a dog in the fight may do so on the nominated template's Talk page.

Shortly after I removed the offending listing and carefully began to archive all its debate -- not merely the debate within the TfD workflow, but wherever I could find a scrap of it -- a certain user, without discussion of any kind so far as I know, restored {divbox} to the TfD page and simultaneously juggled the entire contents of the page, including our written process guidelines. Am I the only one in this project who finds this a bit questionable?


 * TfD page, including process guidlines, prior to Orwellian reversions -- here is an excerpt:


 * "It is also possible that no concensus has been reached. Action: Remove template from this page entirely. Copy the entire discussion to template's Talk page. Remove tag from template's main page. ("Disputed" subsection deprecated.) Absent concensus, the disputed template is kept."


 * I have to disclose that it was I who wrote the text of this section, as part of a complete cleanup of the page, including explicit workflow process. The cleanup stood unchallenged througout the recent heated debate over {divbox} -- nobody found it offensive or even felt a need to correct my misspelling of "consensus" -- but now that it permits {divbox} release from jail, it must all be destroyed. (!?)


 * This process, too, is subject to change -- but have we come to the point where we are permitted to change our guidelines for how we work at the same time as we cite our changes to process as justification for what we do?

If we have come to the point where everything is up for grabs, please let me know, and I will start work on Jimbo's home page, VfD, CfD, RfC, RfA, and all the other pages which manage the way we manage the work we do. If I don't need to discuss any of my changes before making them, then why should I? And if someone disagrees with me, why should I not alter existing process to make his disagreement illegal?

If we have not come to that point, and we still cling to shreds of social fabric, then I ask you to take whatever action you think necessary to hold those shreds together, and allow me to return to the work I do best -- making things that work for us all. Thank you. &mdash; Xiongtalk 10:54, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)

Netoholic's move
Thank you for retrieving that interesting log. What do you think it means? How did Netoholic manage to also remove the automatic temporary redirect? Did he have assistance? Can his Big Buddy be identified? Does Netoholic's action violate his temporary injunction against some types of reversion? &mdash; Xiong&#29066; talk 23:41, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Merged fragmented discussion to: User:Xiong/Metahole. You may want to remove this entire section -- but of course, keep the WikiThanks! &mdash; Xiong&#29066; talk 04:49, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)

Convention
Would you consider a Charter Convention? &mdash; Xiong&#29066; talk 02:07, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)

X-Play Edits
IMO, I felt that the data on the show's schticks were kind of useless information. If anyone else thinks its worthwhile to keep in there, go for it. --Thewastedsmile 03:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DYK image
Oops, I usually do it, but I totally forgot to protect this time. Sorry. (Did you unprotect the old image as listed on the talk page?) Mgm|(talk) 20:28, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Why did sandbot...
do this? Just curious :) -Frazzydee|&#9997; 22:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah. The unfortunate side effect of processing a page.  The time that it takes for Sandbot to get a page and process it has a lag time of about a minute or so.  Therefore, when it attempts to re-enforce the existing header, the page in its cache is stale.  I'm thinking a way to revert that. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah... I found the problem...  The lag time is due to the fact that it gets two pages in a row.  I moved it, so that it will attempt to process and post immediately.  Hopefully, the bot won't run into that problem again. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fact and Reference Check
Hi Frazzydee,

Excellent work on the Fact and Reference checks and organization, esp. the article on Titan's Moon and now the current one on the Egyptian pyramids. I'll take a look at the formatting for each of these and try out doing some fact checks :). It is good we have a format in place to get it rolling and people will realize they can do referencing and start doing it to all articles.  I think the momentum is starting to pick up.

As well, I notice that the list of members in FARC is organized by when they joined. Would a less POV version be alphabetic? We want new members to feel as important as old members, so we can get them working :P.

--ShaunMacPherson 21:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi again
Yes, I'm trying to do this right now. I'm still learning how to do it all. But thanks for the offer.

deleted page
Thanks for the message. I remember moving the page to his User space from something like 'Template:Not notable', but I'd not normally delete anything in user space unless the creator asked for it to be. (Why didn't he use 'subst'?)

I've been cutting my Watchlist, but it's still 2,364 pages... Yes, I need to cut it a lot more if I'm going to retain any sanity. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 22:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

LupinBot
Hi, please unblock my IP address. I think it is unreasonable to put an indefinite ban on my IP address simply because I was unaware that I had to get permission to run a bot (which was only uploading images).

I will not run the bot until I have completed the necessary bureaucratic processes. Lupin 00:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for unblocking my IP. Unfortunately I still can't edit from that IP address. Could you look into this? Lupin 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spoken
I'll be getting a mic soon, but my voice is pretty bad. You can contribute in the way I have, by editing others' contributions to delete weird pauses, or stutters, or anything that can clean up the speech. For an example, see the original and updated links at the bottom of the Robert Oppenheimer audio file; I got rid of 35 seconds of weird pauses, etc. You might try doing the History of the World audio file for a test. Just make sure you reencode it at the same kbps so that there isn't too much loss. As for the template, this was a consensus/compromise between myself, Raul654, and some of the other Spoken Wikipedia members, who all agree that it is fine. It might be a little redundant, but we're trying to increase the project popularity, so maybe we can consider changing this when we get a lot more people and articles. --brian0918 &#153; 02:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Blocks
Thanks! Refdoc 00:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

4&times;post
No problem - those sorts of glitches happen to us all from time to time: saw it; fixed it :) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You proved my point
Greetings. I appreciate the friendly way you initiated my co-workers, whom I have just introduced to Wikipedia. You know them as 143.158.254.228, which is actually a proxy, though you will not be surprised to discover one of them is named Nerge. They are aware of the sandbox, but they were not really testing to see if they could edit articles, but rather how fast their obvious jokes and vandalism would be reverted. Your excellent response time amazed them. One of them is watching me write this and is threatening me with an umbrella.

Perhaps I shouldn't have shown them wikipedia.


 * sigh --Izmir Stinger 21:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Bots?
Without informing me what the error is, I don't know how to help you. -- AllyUnion (talk) 00:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, you should attempt to email the project's mailing list. -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Help with page
Yeah, it was just a test. I went ahead and changed it myslef.

Reverted
User typed "evil & stupid" 432 times, ending his/her eloquent diatribe with a single letter "v", presumabely from holding down ctrl-v. See this diff. -Frazzydee|&#9997; 22:14, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. I didn't see your notice about "not reverting" until I'd already reverted.  Apologies.  Joyous 22:17, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem :)


 * The user did this again, this time using headline text, widening the page, but still ending with the signature "v". -Frazzydee|&#9997; 23:17, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Warning
I agree with warning. However this determined vandal has been warned many, many times. No point wasting any more time. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Moral Clarity
You unblocked the user:Moral Clarity and then falied to reblock them. I have reinstaded a week long block, hopefully within that time it can be shown whether or not the user is a sock or copycat, and a longer block can be enforced. I should also add that if you looked thorugh the user history and at the other socks you would have noticed that both the previous socks were blocked indefinately quite soon after creation (on the same day, within a few hours), given this and the obvious similarities between this new version of said sock I don't think my original block was unresonable. --nixie 01:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I was slightly horrified by the prospect that this perosn could be at in again in 24 hours, thats all :). Thanks --nixie 02:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Britney
Britney's popularity is not debatable; I thought her influence was. Hence, I deleted. Please forgive my entry if it fails to meet Wiki standards. As you can guess, I am new to this. Further, my congratulations, as it is doubtful I will ever post anything ever again as a result of your vigilance. Thanks! --User:Harmanos 02:53, 25 April 2005 (UTC)

Xiong
Hi there! Because the RFC about Xiong seemed to deal mainly on his disagreements with Netoholic, I thought it best to start a new RFC to see if people have comments on Xiong's behavior that do not relate to Netoholic. Please give your thoughts and/or opinion on that at Requests for comment/Xiong. Radiant_* 08:26, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your award &mdash; I'll give up one of the last little remnants of my life to keep it polished. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 19:47, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template:Deletedpage
Last thing, this survived TfD with calls to rewrite. I may be the wrong person to fix it, since I apparently did not do a good job to begin with. I don't really understand what is wrong with it -- short and to the point.

Right now, it's unused, but if I see any way to improve it, I might like to use it in the body of Template:Pfd. Bias: I think nothing should be deleted, except that whose very presence is misleading, flatly illegal, or unnecessarily offensive -- and I have a very broad definition of "necessary" -- except to make room for something else. Deletion destroys history, and that really riles me. Blank, yes; replace with a notice, yes; delete, no. &mdash; Xiong&#29066; talk 04:33, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

Regarding My changes at Swastik Page
Hi. I wanted to add Jainism too after Hinduism and Buddhism but was not able to do so.. Some extra lines were coming.. Kindly add Jainism also in Second paragraph..Nalim  ( &Nalim; ) 1 May 2005

[no title]
wikipedia suck
 * A talk entry was blanked, and this text was added instead.(diff)

I wasn't testing, phoo!
Wha? I wad'nt testing! [-61.69.12.14]

Disclaimer templates
I used a comment you made in a TfD discussion as an argument on Disclaimer templates, and thought it would be impolite to not tell you about it. If you do not want it used there, feel free to remove it (or remove your signature, or rewrite it). --cesarb 00:47, 4 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me :) I don't have a problem with it being there, although I probably would've put a bit more thought into how I said it had I known (oh well ;)). I really appreciate the fact that you let me know! -Frazzydee|&#9997; 01:04, 4 May 2005 (UTC)


 * If you think you could have said it better, be bold and edit the version on the policy proposal &#9786;! It wouldn't even need your signature there then. I used what you said because I thought it was greatly worded, btw. --cesarb 01:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Removal of link marked minor
You recently made an edit to iPod, deleting an external link. You marked this link minor. Please remember that any change in actual content should not be marked minor. TreyHarris 22:37, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Apologies&mdash;I had seen a rash of non-minor edits being marked minor lately, and I didn't look closely enough. My error. TreyHarris 06:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Depop Category:Sexual act
Why? SV|t 22:36, 13 May 2005 (UTC)


 * "If it were created to be put at the top of articles with these images (so you see the message before the image), it would be a different idea, and would warrant a seperate TFD entry."

I see - so the issue is not the cat but the template. I will restore the cat, unless there is any objection to the notion of Categorization - for whatever prurient or puritan interests that may serve. -SV|t 23:24, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Nicholas J. Hopper
It's a waste of everyones time, but I've sent it to vfd--nixie 02:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Template:Sofixit
Although the nomination for deletion of Template:Sofixit at WP:TFD certainly doesn't look like it is going to pass, I think that you are jumping the gun by removing the TFD template after two days (listed by BlankVerse at 09:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC), removed by you at 11:04, 21 May 2005 (UTC), just under 50 hrs. later). Blank Verse  &empty; 12:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[no title]
This page belongs to an idiot who believes in the academic boycott on Bar Ilan University.

Ivyboy 17:01, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I added the strikethroughs. See  -Frazzydee|&#9997; 20:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

RE: Vandalism
Thank you for the offer. When will you block me (and as a result all of Bar Ilan)?Dittoboy (formerly Bubbaboy - I untransformed) 12:56, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Gee. My very first case of User page vandalism. I feel like I've joined the club or something. I am thoroughly disappointed, however, that it wasn't something that was more inventive than a page blank. But then that sort of matches the very unimaginative vandalism that I've been reverting the past couple of days. For some reason I've been getting a bunch of very minor vandalism on my Watchlist&mdash;stuff like someone will add "dog" at the end of a paragraph. Stranger yet, it has often been the first and only edit for the IP rather than being some serial vandal. I wonder what I've done to deserve such an honor. ;-) Blank Verse  &empty;  14:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Is this one of Ivyboy's friends? His actions were diferent from Ivyboy, but his name reminds me of Ivyboy. (For your information, Bulbaboy got his Wikimedia name from Pokemon #1 (Bulbasaur); Ivyboy based his name on Ivysaur, and now we have Ditto in the form of Dittoboy.)


 * In addition, Ivyboy warned that his friends were going to prevent edits from Bar Ilan, and Dittoboy seems to think it is a good idea to do so). Notice that you wrote that you will block if he "vandalizes somebody else's talk page, user page, or articles", and the first thing he does is asks you to block him and vandalises someone else's talk page.


 * User142 16:45, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Looks like Ivyboy's "friend". I'm not sure if it's the same guy, though.  I've also added strikethroughs on his sig - although he couldn't speel it correctly, for some reason. - Bulbaboy 20:42, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Now are you going to block me?Dittoboy (formerly Bubbaboy - I untransformed) 17:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

FA by e-mail
Hi there! It looked historical to me because it seemed like nobody was using it. I was unaware of the list info page you mentioned. But of course I may be wrong, and if I am please remove the tag. Yours, Radiant_* 07:40, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Deleted entry??? HELP Please
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (Difference between revisions) Revision as of 08:01, 31 May 2005 203.124.2.8 (Talk | contribs) History &#8592; Older edit Revision as of 11:04, 31 May 2005 194.83.252.194 (Talk | contribs) Removed (again) external link to commercial and not particularly relevant website. Newer edit &#8594; Line 245: Line 245: *Liverpool City Council *Liverpool City Council *Liverpool: European Capital of Culture 2008 *Liverpool: European Capital of Culture 2008 - *Liverpool Skyline Mersey Waterfront DVD *UNESCO citation *UNESCO citation *Port Cities Liverpool *Port Cities Liverpool

I was wondering why a link to my site was removed from the Liverpool Page.

www.liverpool-skyline.co.uk

Sure it linked to my homepage with images(given away free) and video clips (given away free)

while other sites that SELL Pictures are allowed to keep thier link.

I am selling a DVD, 1h30min in lenth, with a full music soundtrack, for less than the other people will sell one image. so I would like to know how its ok for them?

THanks Johnvid [At ] rocketmail *d ot* com

Good work!
Frazzy -- I just wanted to say thanks for all the good work you do with the featured articles by email :) &rarr;Raul654 00:56, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

GAP Project
I'm going to try to be calm here;

First- read the talk page Talk:GAP Project. This answers your question about what copyright violation occurred, I stopped reading after coming across the first copied sentence (the one that i mentioned on the talk page). This was the second time I had to address this page for copyright violations.

Instructions for clearing copyvios are simple; if the initial edit is a copyright violation then delete the article. Otherwise revert to the most recent revision that doesn't contain a copyright violation (see WP:CP). This is what I did to the GAP Project. Also, in this case, I deleted the revisions that contained copyright violations, because Coolcat kept repeating his copyright violations.

Second- This is not the first time I've delt with Coolcat on copyright violations, and while he is a very nice guy, my experience with him is that he keeps copying, keeps complaining, and keeps shopping around for different administrators when he doesn't get the answerers he wants (Silsor, Burgundavia, you...)

I am not mad at you or Coolcat, and forgive my language, but the amount of time squandered arguing over this fucking bullshit is an order of magnitude greater than that required to write the article from scratch. If this had been any other user, and on the first copyvio, I would have spent the extra time removing or re-writing the sentances that were still copied. But it was the Coolcat, who had just wasted a huge amount of my time with idiotic copyvio arguments on Diagnosis Murder. And this was the SECOND time I had to spend my time reviewing the GAP Project.

Finally- Please pass on to Coolcat that he has my solemn promise that I will not delete his work as a copyvio as long as he doesn't plagerize and commit copyright violations.

If you want to spend your time restoring parts of this article I think it would be great, but I have no stomach for it now. --Duk 15:20, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 08:06, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

access
I think this is a misguided attempt to make a standard table to point to "pre-requisite" articles that one may need to read for background material on the article. I mean, this is a great idea, but it doesn't make sense that all hard-to-understand math articles would have exactly eight articles that you would need to link to as background. (There's an example of usage on Template talk:Access.) -- Beland 19:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

sorry
okay i have no ide how to leave a message here because you didnt tell me how, so i hope im not doing anything wrong...anyway, about the vandalism, i am truly sorry about what i did on the hitler page. i did not realize that what i put there would have an effect on any one elses computer but mine. thanks for not reporting me, i owe you one..just one [-142.166.101.125]

oh my god!
i am so mad now!!!!!!! i was nice enough to leave sorry for what i did to the hitler page, and my message gets deleted!!! [-Spanier]

Oppenheimer ogg
Heya, I've modified your talk page a little, sorry about that but it's unavoidable: brian0918's comment above accidentally used Image:Robert Oppenheimer.ogg as an image instead of a link, causing everyone who visited this talk page to download a 15.9M file from upload.wikimedia.org. I've just inserted the appropriate :. --W(t) 16:13, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)

TFD?
Hi there! Thanks for clearing out recent TFD stuff. However I was wondering why you leave the relevant talk pages intact? I can't find any reference to that in the process description, except for a bit at WP:CSD which says that such talk pages are speediable. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 07:50, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't see much harm but I don't see much good either (although theoretically they might prevent people from reinstating the deleted template). So I guess I don't really mind either way, but it may be useful to ask one of the oldbies what they used to do earlier. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 11:44, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Johann Sebastian Bach
Aloha. I just joined the Fact and Reference Check WikiProject so I have a few questions. For example, can you tell me why there are multiple refs for Bach's birth and death dates? Since there is only one source used for these dates, wouldn't it make sense to ref once, after the closed parens? --Viriditas | Talk 04:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. May I nominate Terri Schiavo for a biweekly special article, or at least for your consideration?  It's been on peer review for about two months, I believe.  --Viriditas  | Talk 09:41, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

output-light-restyle.css
Hello Frazzydee, I have made some modifications to the output-light.css to reach this layout. I have just placed it in nl:Gebruiker:JePe/chatzilla/output-light-restyle.css. The changes are however not really documentated in the CSS. I uploaded the screenshot for an article on nl.wikipedia, but I didn't know that it was uploaded by someone else to Commons. But now it can be used for other projects as well :) JePe 23:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Deleted template? Sorry!
. I'd have explained earlier except that I didn't have that talk page on my watchlist. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 09:32, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I am unaware of any other such templates, and frankly I don't quite see how it could be useful (it lists the long history of another page; however, when discussing a page what is usually important is one specific version, or a diff - not a lengthy history). And people are unlikely to imitate using it since it doesn't look like a template. Anyway... I'd prefer not to go through the lengthy bureaucracy of VFU, but I'd be happy to undelete the template if you can think of a suitable usage. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 10:07, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Grasshopper Page
Why was the photo gallery on the grasshopper page removed? I can see no reason why the photos on the old page (Grasshopper) shouldn't be included in the new version. That photo from fotoclipart.com is useless compared to the old ones. --Fir0002 07:26, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Szilárd Leó
Saw you leaving a question about that in Kate’s discussion page — okay, that was ages ago, anyway — so here’s the answer: Wikipedia:EN isn’t in UTF-8 still, because there are supposedly software out there which would break it. I’m sure there are, but all the Unicode Wikis don’t seem to suffer such degradation. The last graphical browser I know didn’t work well with Unicode is Netscape 4, and I doubt there are significant amounts of people using it. Much more is the hassle of watching out what we can put in an article title (no &#337; and &#369; here in English wikipedia, for example: Györ), and hunting for all kinds of &amp;#nnnn; codes in the text when editing an article with IPA characters in them for example.

I wish the English (and Dutch and the rest — if the Spanish did it, why can’t others&#8253;) Wikipedia would convert to Unicode finally.

-- Ralesk 01:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template
Hey Faraaz, thanks for userfying the template for me. It wasn't intended to be a fork. I was just trying to play around with the color without messing up the real one, and was going to reword it slightly, but no big change, so it's more appropriate on a user subpage anyway. Many thanks, SlimVirgin <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 02:58, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

daily article
(sorry, put this on my talk page by accident)

try this version (source). &mdash;kate

ps. finlay fixed the flower :) thanks

MediaWiki:Dberrortext
Thanks for fixing the spelling error in that MediaWiki page. Can you also add a link to Bug reports where that page mentions bugs? Also see talk in MediaWiki talk:Dberrortext. Thanks! -- Paddu 19:41, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[no title]
hey frazz, i love you long time, ya i do...o;0)peace will prevail the egyptian pyramids were in actuality built by slaves, hard working slaves, who got nothing in return but sore backs, and broken bones, but the original templates were in fact created by aliens, who are in essence, us coming back from the future to tell our sorry selves that we need to shape up or ship out;

peace will prevail [-205.188.116.66]

peace will prevail
Hilter was a horrid man, who killed millions, if not billions, in the holo, of jews for the sake of his own horrificness

he was also a talented artist,who was brought up beaten and maimed by his tyrannical mother, who didn't love or care for him the way she should have, but that is no excuse,and besides the point

it's just a warning to all those mothers out there who treat their kids like dooty, it is a perpetual cycle, if you do not break the cyle it will continue forever.

hitler, who killed himself, and so did his girlfriend b/c he was too much of a pussy to stand up for himself and take the punishment that he had coming to him, people like that should be eradicated from the earth.

peace will prevail in this cynical jaded world.

peace with prevail from the hilters of the world.peace will prevail all evil,

from now until eternity.

good-bye stupid hitlers of the world, you are now eradicated; peace

and it's a good thing he died, because there should, and never will be people such as that in the world ever again.

peace will prevail; peace will prevail; preace will prevail;peace will prevail

pwp

Did you know header
There was a reason the "Did you know" h3 header was on the main page. If it's included in the template it messes up section editing in the pages it's used on. We'll have to change the main page as well until we can find a work around for that... - Mgm|(talk) 09:11, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Daily email
Hi Frazzydee,

Raul654 tells me that you are currently managing the script that sends out the daily FeaturedArticle to a mailing list. Could you take a look at Wikipedia_talk:Picture_of_the_day and comment on the feasibility of adding POTD to the email, or possibly a separate distribution. I understand that Kate wrote the original script, so it may not be easy to make changes.

I'm currently running POTD, but I've not seen the daily FA email so I don't know whether this is a good idea or not. -- Solipsist 16:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

WDMA
I just wanted to refer you back to your comment on Talk:WDMA. ;) Now that it's dead, you can see it was quite real. --Golbez 00:01, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Hello?Can you help?
Hi,you may not know me,but I own the sockpuppet User:203.124.2.8.A hacker has used it to vandalise Wikipedia.For the safety of articles,can you block this sockpuppet?P.S.It is not me who vandalised!It is a hacker!Thank you!Tdxiang 12:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Block

Barnstar
I feel terrible for not seeing this until now, but thank you so much for the barnstar that you awarded me. To be honest, I've barely had any time at all for Wikipedia over the past few months, since I've been focusing more on school (I'm in my last year before university). I'm going to try and start editing more, as my schedule permits, but the workload this year has been fairly heavy thus far.

Again, thank you so much for the barnstar that you so kindly awarded me. I just hope that I can live up to all the wonderful things you've said about me; I will certainly try my best, but I must also prioritize to ensure that my marks do not suffer.

Yours truly, Frazzydee|&#9997; 03:20, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * No problem at all lol! I find my Wikipedia usage has been going down as well, just because so many other people are taking up the slack that things that were on my to-do list are getting done so I can sit back and watch it all happen :).


 * Its good the FARC project is going along well, Wikipedia is becoming big enough that the factuality component, instead of completeness and coverage, is becoming important.


 * Bye for now, --ShaunMacPherson 11:55, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

User Categorisation
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Ontario page as living in or being associated with Ontario. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Ontario for instructions.--Rmky87 03:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not interested in categorizing my user page, but thanks anyways. -Frazzydee|&#9997; 15:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Ancient tfds
Back in July, you removed the discussions of Template:AubreyMaturinSeries, Template:Dangerous, Template:Policysuspended, and Template:TPOV, all of which had unanimous consensus for deletion, from WP:TFD. However, the templates were never deleted, and I find no mention of them in either the deleted or not-deleted logs. Were these oversights, or am I missing something? &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 09:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Semi-automated template substitution

 * This page was modified to semi-automatically substitute templates using Pathoschild's template list. // Tawker 11:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)