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— Asbestos | Talk 11:51, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a ton !!! ......

....for your work on WP:MM. As someone who has been involved in 30+ merges, I always wondered why the page had to make something so simple as a merge sound so difficult and verbose. I was planning to add a wikiquette sub-section to it but held back due to the way it's organised. Now, thanks to you, I think I'll go ahead and add it. --Gurubrahma 15:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

noinclude and includeonly

MediaWiki allows many, but not all, HTML tags. The noinclude and includeonly tags (not HTML tags) were introduced a month or so ago and announced in a mailing list. They may also be documented on http://meta.wikimedia.org, but the documentation for MediaWiki is far from comprehensive. ed g2s • talk 21:30, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Mass. towns

Great yeoman's work on the List of Massachusetts towns article. Thanks so much for your help. — Friejose 20:08, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• And then I noticed you added in all the towns to the Template:Massachusetts. There is a whole discussion about whether it makes sense to have the towns in the template, as it makes the template very large and unwieldy. As you can see now that you've added the towns back in, the template is enormous. Furthermore, the reason the above-mentioned list of towns was created was to enable the shortening of the template itself, as you'll see from a look at the template talk. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts as to how we should structure the template, but in the meantime, I am going to revert the towns out of the template. — Friejose 20:17, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Kenmore Square

Category:Squares in Boston is part of Category:Boston, Massachusetts, so I have removed the latter again. --SPUI (talk) 20:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Barnstable

Thanks for reverting my re-inclusion of Barnestable to List of towns in Massachusetts. I was only adding it back in because the anon who removed it left no indication of why. -Harmil 22:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

My edits on UMass

I moved them to University of Massachusetts, Amherst as the story specifically referred to the Amherst campus, not the university system as a whole. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Congress

Toil and trouble

Just waving hello. I've been slogging through the congresses, making sure they all have dates of sessions and notes about special sessions of the Senate. In addition I've been adding or standardizing the previous/next navigation box at the bottom of the page. That's all I've been doing for now, though I'm a big advocate of consistency -- e.g., what goes in what order on pages like these. It's a daunting task and I hope there'll be enough interest in the project to get some consensus and then tackle things. (I noticed today that the page for the 77th Congress did not mention declaring war on Japan and on Germany, so I added that.) OtherDave 12:35, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Congress Categories

You added category tags to the Project page at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Congress, and I'm probably going to remove them. The page shiould have a list displayed, but using the Category tag makes the project page itself show up in the article/category space. I think we should keep content separated from the project (IMHO). Please comment here, or my talk page, or the project's talk page. There is already a brief discussion on the project page about categories. Thanks, Lou I 13:14, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I suppose you're right. I've been over-zealous in promoting the Project. My bad.

I'll remove the tags. --GoldRingChip 13:30, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, your response time must be faster than mine ;-) .... Lou I 13:50, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for deletion currently has an unresolved question about Category names for U.S. Congress members. Its way down the page, but I'd welcome your thoughts or input. Thanks, Lou I 20:38, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

1911-1913 Senate pro tems

Why do you think it's worth using up that much space to link the individual special pro tems? I think the link to the special page, which HAS detailed links to them all, is much more efficient. Staxringold 03:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Because the very purpose of the template is to list individual names. Otherwise, the entire template would simply be replaced by a redirect to the list article. --GoldRingChip 03:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Changing one thing, however, as Clarke was not a part of the rotating pro tems

No problem. Thanks for the heads up. --GoldRingChip 03:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem as well, thanks for the touch-up! :D Staxringold 03:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

List of United States Senators from X

Hi there:

I noticed that you nominated List of United States Senators from New York to be merged into U.S. Congressional Delegations from New York. I have just a few comments:

• It would probably be good to be consistent and do this with each state, instead of just New York. (Each state has an article of the form List of United States Senators from state and an article of the form U.S. Congressional Delegations from state.)
• I'm actually more in favor of slicing out the "United States Senate" section from the U.S. Congressional Delegations from state article and putting that into the List of United States Senators from state articles and then renaming the U.S. Congressional Delegations from state article to List of United States Representatives from state or U.S. House Delegations from state. (The latter has the advantage of being able to include delegates from before the state's admission.) One advantage to this is that then the U.S. Senator rows of succession tables won't have to point to a section of an article but to an article in its own right.

— DLJessup (talk) 01:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Very good idea. It must be consistent among all the states. I'm on the fence about splitting Senators and Representatives. It's handy to keep it all in one article, but in a state like New York, it will be extremely cumbersome. And yet, the cumbersome-ness comes from the plentitude of House reps, not the senators.

Let's get more discussion going. Can you copy this to an appropriate article's talk page? Perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Congress. And then it ought to get noted on several different articles pointing back to the discussion.

--GoldRingChip 22:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I wrote a (hopefully) clearer version of my proposal on the WikiProject U.S. Congress talk page, with a link pointing back to this section of this talk page. I then looked back at this page, and realized that, in rewriting my proposal, I had left off your responses, so I excerpted the section where you criticized my proposal and posted that to the Wikiproject talk page as well. Please review what I wrote and make sure that I didn't misrepresent your views and maybe clarify them, if need be (though they seemed pretty clear to me).

— DLJessup (talk) 03:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

List of United States Senators from Michigan

You proposed a merge of this page but did not provide any reasoning or discussion. Rmhermen 00:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

• SORRY!!!!!! (For discussion of merge, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#List of United States Senators from X.) --GoldRingChip 00:21, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

California 6 District

For the California 6th District, it reads This district is currently represented by Lynn C. Woolsey. Before her, it was represented by (now-)Senator Barbara Boxer.

This district covers Marin County, California.

What does the (now-) mean? I would appreciae if you could explain this. Thanks in advance! American Patriot 1776 17:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Means Boxer is now a Senator, but she wasn't one then. I've now clarified the article. --GoldRingChip 19:13, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. American Patriot 1776 23:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

United States (other than Congress-related)

United States edits

Solid edits on the U.S. page. Well done. Gator1 22:24, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! --GoldRingChip 23:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

RE: Article Changes

Dear GoldRingChip, when you change an article, especially one as big as Harry S. Truman, could you put what your changes where in the "Edit summary:" box? Little articles that no one is watching you might skip, or ones that you have just created, but ones like a president of the U.S., it sure helps for monitoring for vandalism, and quality of content. Thanks...WikiDon 18:58, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Is there some way to change my "Edit summary:" box retroactively? GoldRingChip 00:23, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

No, it's too late to go back. We can only look foward. WikiDon 03:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

GPO

It's a hybrid. The GPO is headed by the Public Printer who is appointed by the President subject to confirmation by the Senate. However, it is exempted from most of the rules regarding executive agencies and its operations are subject to the dictates of the Joint Committee on Printing.

If I had to describe the GPO, in terms of how it operates, I'd say it's a wholly owned government corporation with a monopoly on government printing contracts having the Public Printer as its CEO and the Joint Commitee on Printing as its board of directors, tho that isn't how it's defined under the law. Caerwine 12:41, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm working on categorizing officers, employees, and agencies of the U.S. Congress. (See Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Congress.) Would you say that the GPO fits in any of those? I was thinking congressional agency, and the Public Printer as employee of u.s. congress, but now I'm not so sure.

Would you describe any other agency as being a similar kind of hybrid? GoldRingChip 13:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Agencies

Why are you putting all of these agencies in the U.S. politician stub category? This category is for people who are US politicians, not for political agencies. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-09-30 14:59

My bad. I was sorting Gov-stubs from US-gov-stubs and I found a couple of US-politician-stubs. As you can imagine, I was cutting and pasting a lot. It seems I pasted US-politician-stubs when I should have pasted US-gov-stubs. I'll correct them. Sorry, and thanks. --GoldRingChip 16:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

William King

We need to source his swearing in date. I found several references to the March 4th date including his Congressional biography and another source and by implication another. I have found none for the 24th. Have you found sources for the March 24th date? We should get a definitive answer, not just rely on previous edits in his article, which until I did some research today I had done previously. He was VP elect for months, giving congress time to act on his special bill - maybe we can find the date that that bill was passed. I just want to get the correct date, whatever that date should be. NoSeptember 01:41, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Union University (New York)

Hi and thanks for your articles on Union University and its constituent entities. I never really understood until now how that whole system worked (I considered going to Albany Law School way back when). I'm reworking the articles to focus on each specific entity, as each of the articles as written contained the same text. Please feel free to add detail! - Sensor 02:22, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

VERY glad to help!! --GoldRingChip 02:23, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Westlaw

Yeah, it is very convenient to have the account. Unfortunately, I believe my law school account dies in May (or soon thereafter) when I graduate. Anyway, if you need help citing an elusive public law number or the like in the future, feel free to drop a note on my talk page. - Jersyko talk 20:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)