User talk:GoldRingChip/Archives/2020

Special elections in US congressional Districts - List of members representing the district
How does this look - California's 42nd congressional district

Rather than deleting the special election out of the list of members box altogether as you did - California's 35th congressional district

Thoughts? Benawu2 (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting… thanks for bringing this up!


 * I think what you propose causes a duplication of the information in the electoral history column: first in the vacancy row and then again in the successor's row. Furthermore, in some cases (not this one, however) there are other circumstances to explain what happened during the vacancy that are not related to the predecessor or the successor, and I think that's what should go in the vacancy row's electoral history box.  For example, there might be a vacancy at the beginning of the term in some confederate states before their members were re-seated.  Or also: there might be a rep-elect who died or declined the election. —GoldRingChip 00:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Benawu2 (talk) 03:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Dammit GoldRingChip stop coming up with such sensible responses. :) Will edit it out of CA-42.

Oklahoma territory elections
Your use of templates is continuing to populate category redirects - see Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories for some of them (note that it takes a while for some to show up there). The underlying problem is that these templates are often very poor at handling situations when the naming changes between levels. I note that Template:Category U.S. State elections by year offers override options - please can you try to use these. Otherwise I'll have to keep removing the templates to avoid the redirect mess they keep causing. Timrollpickering (Talk) 16:29, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I certainly don't want to create a mess, and I'm sorry if it does that!! Can you please explain a bit more about the problem they create? —GoldRingChip 18:29, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * How does this look: Category:1806 Louisiana elections? —GoldRingChip 18:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's certainly not populating redirects. The problem is basically the template looks at the category name and puts it in other categories based on it - but that requires everything to be consistent. That's fine for a long established state in the 21st century, more of a problem for a category of elections during its territory stage. (I see someone has proposed renaming the Oklahoma categories to try to fix the mismatch that way.) Timrollpickering (Talk) 23:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Elected in....
I'm almost done with adding the ordinals to each congressional district. I was going to then start adding the elections to each district. Before i start that, i was wondering if there was a way to write something similar to what you did with the ordinals, so you can shortcut writing each election....(i.e. 62|63 and 1892|1894….Pvmoutside (talk) 16:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're asking. I wrote a template on in my own userspace (which would be subst): User:GoldRingChip/Elected, but I haven't gotten it to work. —GoldRingChip 16:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * … yet. —GoldRingChip 16:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * … almost there… —GoldRingChip 01:46, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Date sorting
I see this edit and I'm just wondering, is there an advantage to "| nowrap data-sort-value=" over Template:dts? Reywas92Talk 01:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe? Dts provides both the date and the sorting together, which is better.  But using a template can, if used extensively for every single member on a very long list, break the post-expand include size… which I found here.  We fixed it in that example, PLUS I would rather not use "data-sort-value" because it's usually more work to code than necessary and more confusing to future editors than necessary.  So maybe I should go back to using dts? —GoldRingChip 13:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting, thanks. I've found dts pretty easy since you don't have to write it twice. It also appears that if you change what a cell displays in visual editor, it won't update the data sort value, so back-end formatting is a little less accessible, but good to know about the include size. Reywas92Talk 19:35, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society
Dear ,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. &#x200B;

Best regards, Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 14:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

California's 11th congressional district special election, 1967
I think your script had a problem creating California's 11th congressional district special election, 1967. I didn't want to mess with it because I'm not sure what all is going on there... Schazjmd  (talk)  17:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good catch… Thank you, I'll fix it. —GoldRingChip 17:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

House Elections Data

 * So I actually have records from 1788 to 1920, but unfortunately the way I had initially printed the data I had neglected to include any of the pages I wasn't interested in. What that means is that I'm actually missing the basic citation data which is …. problematic to say the least, and I have no way to get my hands on the source again now with the current pandemic, least for the time being. Those prints I have since scanned again into a PDF which I should have done from the start, but the even-numbered pages have an issue where a "shadow" eats into one of the columns making some bits of data indecipherable; in those cases have had to go to Our Campaigns as they cite Michael J. Dubin's book, and I believe that that is what I've been using. I've been meaning to make the scans available, but I'm not sure how best to do so. --Ariostos (talk) 07:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Seniority in the United States House of Representatives
I'm not sure if you want to leave it for someone else, but I've been doing some Kweisi Mfume edits. i'm not sure where he fits in seniority based on his previous tenure.....i'll leave it for you, or someone else....Pvmoutside (talk) 18:19, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I'll leave it to http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/Terms_of_Service.pdf, when that's updated. —GoldRingChip 18:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

2020 House elections.
It doesn't matter. They are still a party in congress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1C0C:85AC:F0AF:6D0E:3B41:4E7E (talk) 17:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

edit reverts
i saw that you reverted back the edits done by user 2601:241:301:4360:AC5F:1097:21EA:B82A after i undid them because i thought it was vandalism done by that user because apparently, they were reported to intervention against vandalism. sorry if i make mistake because i am new to wikipedia MP40 Flame 200 (talk) 21:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)MP40 Flame 200
 * They're ok. The user hadn't used edit summaries, so it just looked like vandalism. They should have set up an account (not done it as anonymous) and used edit summaries.  Still, it was ok that they'd blanked that info.  No apology necessary on your part, furthermore, as it's good for you to WP:BB! —GoldRingChip (he/she/it/they)) 23:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Massachusetts legislature article names
Hi GoldRingChip. In case you are interested, there is discussion just now at WikiProject Massachusetts about (1) Massachusetts legislative session article names and (2) legislative district article names. Your input would be welcome. Cheers. -- M2545 (talk) 16:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Help needed on House Ratings page
Hello Gold!

I am currently locked into a big disagreement with a User known as Playlet over the Niskanen ratings on the house of reps page. He is willing to edit war me to add them rather than reach a consensus with me. Can you help me because I don't want to engage in an edit war and get blocked for it. Thank you. Wollers14 (talk) 06:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please link to the page. —GoldRingChip 11:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Here: 2020 United States House of Representatives election ratings the talk page will be here.Wollers14 (talk) 17:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

About my redirect pages.
Hey!

So I saw you posted something on my talk page. My purpose for creating these is to make this information a bit more accessible.

Quick question: should my redirects have categories to them? Most redirects that exist don't have them.

I also really like the election templates that your creating, their super helpful and useful!

Thanks for reaching out to me. --Skim 22:11, 1 July 2020 (UTC)


 * That makes sense. But there's nothing linking to them (See, e.g., this), so I'm not sure what their purpose is. No, they shouldn't have categories (see Categorizing redirects).  Keep up the good work!  —GoldRingChip 23:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)


 * For some odd reason they don't show up but, it could be pretty easily interpreted that the categories could constitute as links. This is a bit off topic but I definitely think that the templates I was talking about earlier could be expanded by adding the elections for some state officials. --Skim 00:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution (2nd request)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Hattie Wyatt Caraway into 1932 United States Senate elections. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g.,. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted copied template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was copied, attribution is not required. — Diannaa (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point, thanks for letting me know. I'll try to do a better job in the future. —GoldRingChip 16:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Officeholder template (Senator)
Hello, I noticed that earlier today, you changed the capitalization of "Senator" in the officeholder IB. I believe that per MOS:JOBTITLES, this is not a necessary change (i.e. the reference in the IB is a reference to the title, not a genericized reference to the office). Regardless of my opinion though, there is a discussion about this ongoing at the talk page for the IB template.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know. I will review the discussion. —GoldRingChip 13:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Sáng tạo và phát triển
Chúng tôi muốn biết thêm về vấn đề mở nguồn giấy phép Chau bunh tha (talk) 00:00, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
 Happy Adminship Anniversary! Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

1842 and 1843 United States House of Representatives elections
I saw your edit here. These additions redirect right back to this page in violation of WP:SELFRED and I reverted. Again SELFRED reads- 'Avoid linking to titles that redirect straight back to the page on which the link is found.'...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:43, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


 * for your diligence in policing WP:SELFRED. You can apply

Ind Republican shortname template
Hey, on the template here, Template:Independent Republican (United States)/meta/shortname, you undid my edit (in March 2020) -- I had shortened the name to "Ind. Republican" you reverted it to the full name. I just want to prompt some additional conversation on it. Thinking shortname should be a bit shorter than the full name. --Asdasdasdff (talk) 05:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like Template:Independent Democratic/meta/shortname is "Ind. Democratic," but for some reason I didn't like Template:Independent Republican (United States)/meta/shortname as "Ind. Republican." I reverted that about 4 months ago, and I don't recall the reason. (This is why I should do a better job of using edit summaries!)  However, I do notice that there's a Template:Democratic Party (US)/meta/abbr= "Dem", (and Template:Constitution Party (US)/meta/abbr= "Con" and Template:Republican Party (US)/meta/abbr= "Rep"), which leads me to believe that shortnames aren't supposed to be abbreviations, just shorter and simpler that the long template name. So how about we (or you, or I):
 * Create Template:Independent Republican (United States)/meta/abbr = "Ind. Rep" (without a period at the end)
 * Create Template:Independent Democratic/meta/abbr = "Ind. Dem" (without a period at the end)
 * Change Template:Independent Democratic/meta/shortname back to "Independent Democratic"
 * And, while we're at it, reduce "(United States)" to "(US)" to be consistent with some other templates? —GoldRingChip 12:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Pictures on representatives lists
Just to confirm, should pictures be added to lists of Representatives or not? Thanks, Alextheconservative (talk) 16:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, there's no rule or consensus. I think it's less-than-helpful and more trouble than it's worth so I would recommend not having them.  You, however, may follow your conscience. :) WP:BB. —GoldRingChip 20:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Senate certification deadline in Georgia
Regarding the footnote at 117th United States Congress, I thought that was an example of WP:CALC rather than outright original research. Calculating the second Friday after an election seems pretty straightforward.

Sdrqaz (talk) 23:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC)