User talk:Hochungra

About Me
Hello Wikipedians! I am a long time professional journalist. I co-wrote a 12-vol. encyclopedia on North American Indians, and I cover these issues as well as science, environment, health and technology. My interest here is to increase the visibility of Native American journalism, and science, health, and environmental journalism in general. My well researched entries and edits seek to meet scientific scholarship but in language readers can understand, as well as reduce omitted, misleading or poorly cited material -- a disservice to students, reporters and researchers needing facts and transparency. I clean up glaring errors, add citations and references, stamp out bias, and in general try to perform a useful service. I am making every effort to follow Wikipedia manners, but I keep learning. Please bear with me, I am here to help. I am part of the WP:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas.

I am dismayed to see in Wikipedia editors who project bias, propagandize, or intentionally use hot button words in areas like policy issues, human diversity, mental health and elsewhere. Professional journalists research and report objectively and without bias a full and fair accounting so readers are free to make their own judgements. We owe them the same on Wikipedia. Anything else is propaganda. I research the facts when I see cases of this.

I am easy to approach if you have questions about my edits. I ask for common courtesies. As an early Wikipedian I met with unpleasant exchanges over new entries related to Native American journalism. After attempts to resolve these failed it became worthy of a news story, which drew letters from mainstream journalism organizations, i.e. the Society of Environmental Journalists to Wikimedia's Foundation. I was told by Wikimedia head of communications Jay Walsh that Wikipedians are passionate about policies, but there are a few cases in which bias is suspect. Our news organization wassc assured Foundation members would investigate, and reinstate the twice-deleted Native American Journalists Association. Some of the unfortunate comments that follow relate to these early attempts to raise the visibility of Native American journalism.

Alleged Copyright Violation Native American Journalists Association
I received an okay from the Native American Journalists Association to use their content in recreating their site after a deletion for lack of notability by nawlinwiki. Due to alleged copyright violation, I requested and received a confirmation from the Native American Journalists Association executive director, that I had permission to use their content. His letter: December 22, 2010

TO: Hochungra FROM: Jeffery Harjo, Executive Director, Native American Journalists Association RE: Update to Wikipedia entry

Wikipedia editors,

Hochungra has the permission of the Native American Journalists Association to post information about our organization as it appears on our website.

I am the Executive Director for the Native American Journalists Association and the Wikipedia entry is very important to keep future and current journalists informed about our organization.

Thank you,

Jeffery D. Harjo Executive Director Native American Journalists Association harjo@naja.com

Request Assistance Rob Capriccioso marked for deletion
My aim here is to provide better coverage of Native Americans, including Native American journalism. It took hours of research to re-write Native American Journalists Association, which had been marked for deletion, and deleted. I am in the process of adding notable Native American journalists (See Category:Native American journalists; also Category:Native American writers). The page I created for one of Indian Country's most noted Native American journalists, Rob Capriccioso is now marked for deletion. I have requested expertise and editing assistance from the WikiProject Indigenous Peoples of North America. I am seeing that Native American journalism is being marginalized on Wikipedia, while other minority journalism groups do not suffer the same. Any assistance in these efforts is appreciated, as are all constructive comments. --Hochungra (talk) 18:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)Signed: User:Hochungra --Hochungra (talk) 18:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)== Welcome == Hello, Hochungra, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you have edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been reverted for this very reason.

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Thank you for your warm welcome and words of advice. I will read those entries you suggest that I have not yet read. I do not believe there is a conflict of interest; I am writing about a subject I am very familiar with, news gathering, reporting and editing. Notable Native American reporters should be added to Wikipedia, as well as a new sub-category:Native American journalists under the existing category:Journalists by nationality. Note too, Wikipedia has a category for Native American writers. There are also some fine Native American journalists of note deserving of a listing. Their listings will be useful to students and the general public. In the very near future I plan to add a two more biographical entries. I'll watch the first, to see what the requirements are as it evolves. I added references, and support for notability. /hochungra>
 * Hi, I created Category:Native American journalists and it's ready to be populated (I added the cat to a couple articles). You don't have to request a category to be created, you can just create them yourself as needed – in the same manner that you would create an article. Happy wiki-ing! Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:48, 27 December 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Your recent edits
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As per request on my talk page
You happen to pm the right guy i think, as i  have lots of links to books on just  the things you seem to need- although not to specific. I cant help with any editing as i just have the links... I will list them bellow - with all the info you need to use them as refs ...you will have to add page numbers...(ps i have more links )....Moxy (talk) 21:48, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

- Native American issues By Paul C. Rosier - Westport, Conn. : Greenwood Press, 2003 - isbn ISBN:  0313320020 - The American journalist in the 21st century: U.S. news people at the dawn of ...- By David Hugh Weaver - Routledge - isbn 0805853820 - Journalism across cultures - By Fritz Cropp, Cynthia M. Frisby, Dean Mills - Ames : Iowa State Press, 2003 - isbn 0813819997 - American journalists: getting the story - By Donald A. Ritchie - New York : Oxford University Press, 1997 - isbn 0195099079 - Radio cultures: the sound medium in American life - By Michael C. Keith - New York, NY Lang, Peter New York 2008 - isbn 9780820486482
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- Great American Writers: Twentieth Century - By R. Baird Shuman - New York : Marshall Cavendish, 2002 - isbn 0761472401 - Native American perspectives on literature and history - By Alan R. Velie - Norman : University of Oklahoma Press, 1995 -isbn 0806127856 - Native American Writers - By Harold Bloom - 	New York : Bloom's Literary Criticism, ©2010- isbn 9781604135916 - Native American Writers - By Steven Otfinoski - New York : Chelsea House, 2010 - isbn 9781604133141 - That the people might live: Native American literatures and Native American ...- By Jace Weaver - New York : Oxford University Press, 1997 - isbn 0195118529 - Native Americans Today: A Biographical Dictionary - By Bruce E. Johansen - Santa Barbara, Calif. : Greenwood Press, 2010 - isbn 9780313355547 - Native American women's writing c. 1800-1924: an anthology - By Karen L. Kilcup - Oxford : Blackwell Publishers, 2000 - isbn 0631205179
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Sockpuppetry case
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Using others to sway consensus, and conflict of interest
Hello. I understand your arguments regarding the Articles for deletion/Rob Capriccioso (2nd nomination), though I disagree with them. As someone else noted on that page, it's against Wikipedia guidelines to use other editors as proxies to sway discussions like this, which is called Meatpuppetry. Something similar, Canvassing, which is notifying other editors to influence the decision in one way is also frowned upon. It's also important to note that those sorts of discussions aren't a vote, the majority doesn't always win, which is why in this case it was closed as no consensus. Not saying you are doing any of that, but if you are, please don't.

Also, I don't appreciate your and User:torrenceg's comments that I am somehow biased against Rob Capriccioso because I live in DC (and that you did some research to find out that I'm also a blogger). I've never met him and I don't think I've ever read anything by him. I found the page via Category:Writers from Washington, D.C. Please Assume good faith. --AW (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Response to Allegations of Sock Puppetry, Meat Puppetry, Canvassing, or other
I created the Rob Capriccioso page, then followed it and responded to the nomination for deletion. I didn't join in with anyone. Another allegation without merit was that I was used my account for more than one name to make arguments against deletion. Fortunately an editor checked IP addresses and debunked that. Re AWiseman's criticism he didn't appreciate my investigating any bias on his part, that is what I am trained as a journalist to do. It took little research to learn AW was also a DC writer. If investigating possible bias is a violation of Wikipedia then we need to raise a discussion of transparency. This was one of my early contributions; it and another involving Native American journalism were nominated for deletion as not notable. I stepped out of further edits or arguments for the Capriccioso entry after these untrue allegations of terms I wasn't even familiar with. Note this entry has stood without my further participation. The second deletion of the Native American Journalists Association that I also challenged was rewritten and reinstated by members of the Wikimedia Foundation, and marked Do Not Delete. I hope this clears my good name. I see editing Wikipedia as a way to contribute to the public good in spite of an erratic schedule that doesn't lend to volunteer projects.

Speedy deletion nomination of Rob Capriccioso


A tag has been placed on Rob Capriccioso, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

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Copyright problem: Native American Journalists Association
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Update regarding copyright concern
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Nomination of Rob Capriccioso for deletion
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