User talk:Hotwiki/Archive 13

Hotwiki's talk archive #13

Removal of information on Dance covers, linking of choreography to composition in the genre, multiple promotional videos
Respectfully, I do not agree at all with your removal of an entire section of relevant, carefully thought-through, and significant material, which is supported by numerous quality references. I work in the industry, albeit on another continent, and have observed a significant shift in music consumer tastes, and positive reception of new types of music products, with specific changes to the music industry generally; Korean music makers have made significant changes to marquis products, such as the MTV type music videos (in the industry we used to call these "promotional videos"), and create derivative products with broad appeal, particularly international appeal. This particular group, Momoland, while not having the stature of a BTS or a Black Pink, nonetheless has been one of the trendsetters for the industry generally. The group was formed in 2016 at a time when cost of production of music videos had dropped exponentially compared with cost years earlier, and the cost of distribution had dropped to zero (through YouTube), while the user base of TikTok and Instagram Reels was exploding. Uniquely, this group not only had three fluent anglophones, they are the first group feature not only an American, but an Irish American with an Irish name, as well as another who was fluent in Mandarin, as well as English and several other languages. They not only made popular dance covers, but were themselves copied in dance covers from at least twenty countries. This group is an excellent example of how Korean music creators have evolved, and I would argue transformed the music industry as we know it. This past week Universal Music announced made its earnings announcement, and of the five acts they mentioned, three were Korean, one was Japanese, and only one American. This is relevant to both fans and the music industry itself. You left in the article dates an album came out, or that a group donated a certain amount of rice to a charity as relevant, yet part of the global transformation of the industry is not only relevant, it is even more relevant than the majority of the text in the current article. I plan to revert your edit, but did not want to do so without having a civil discussion. Wiki is more than just a bunch of lists. Respectfully, Kops2222

Adding OTT info on select pages
Hi! We would like to add additional info on First Yaya and Agimat ng Agila as they are also available on iQiyi (iQ.com or iQiyi app). Hope you can allow us to add these in the pages. Thank you!

First Yaya - https://www.iq.com/play/zsao6kiyjt?frmrp=home&frmb=focus_banner_1&frmrs=click Agimat ng Agila - https://www.iq.com/play/25v64uz4f35?frmrp=home&frmb=R:37824992012&frmrs=2

GMA iQiyi announcement - https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/showbiz/chikaminute/785645/gma-shows-are-coming-to-iqiyi-here-s-everything-you-need-to-know/story/ https://www.clickthecity.com/tv/article/93563/gma-network-partners-with-iqiyi-to-bring-more-filipino-programs-online/

AhMjuwX (talk) 04:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a promotional tactic. Wikipedia isn't the place to promote streaming sites.TheHotwiki (talk) 08:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Pepito Manaloto
Why do you restored my edits? MaccWiki (talk) 14:14, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't restore your edits. You just repeated information that was already posted in the article so I removed it.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

My edits is not a false information, so please dont remove it. MaccWiki (talk) 14:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You also added unreferenced cast members and please use the edit summary.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:21, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Cherry malvar is one of the cast of pepito manaloto, but why you remove it. MaccWiki (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Again post a reference. Simple.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

But why, i don't have to prove it, because i watch her every saturday. MaccWiki (talk) 14:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Alot of cast & characters in this article, has no reference. MaccWiki (talk) 14:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There are rules in Wikipedia. If you are questioned for adding unreferenced edits, you must back them up with an actual reference. Or else you could be reported for not posting references. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And just because the section lacks references, that doesn't excuse you for not posting references.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Please don't remove my edits, because we both inform people, don't be selfish MaccWiki (talk) 14:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Learn to post references. Now please can you move forward to other things instead of calling editors "selfish" for following the rules. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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June 2021
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Jollitown
I have simply added the genre, which is variety show, on the Jollitown Kids Show. It is not your mere average "informative" show. Are you even a Filipino? I've said that on the edit summary.
 * You failed to add a reference.TheHotwiki (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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Pepito Manaloto July 16, 2021
I fixed that section and then you messed it up again, you should give other editors the privilege to edit that page. You always change it even if the source I entered is correct. That section got even more messy because of what you did. Please fix it. MaccWiki (talk) 13:03, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't mess anything. You are the one adding poorly sourced references, like IMDb and Bing. You are also not following Mdy format. Anyway, I added more references to further fix the article. TheHotwiki (talk) 13:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

I just divided it into 2 parts, the original and the prequel cast, but you remove it. I just want to arrange them properly so people don't confuse, but you remove it. Then you merge the old cast and present cast which is not right. Are you even a filipino or not? MaccWiki (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

The past revisions is much more informative, but it change a lot. MaccWiki (talk) 13:13, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Take it to the talk page of the article and wait for a consensus. Wikipedia is a collaborative site.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Source
Hi I'm here again, MaccWiki. I can speak and read a little bit of english, but it's so difficult to understand some paragraphs. Can you explain to me what is the acceptable sources to put on an article, can you give me an example?. And what kind of sources that shouldn't put in the article?. I will wait for your reply, thank you. MaccWiki (talk) 10:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Read Reliable sources. Don't use fan sites and message boards.TheHotwiki (talk) 10:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandbox
Hi again!. It is ok that added (My Sandbox) on my own userpage. Just asking. MaccWiki (talk) 11:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Your sandbox is your sandpage.TheHotwiki (talk) 11:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

So it's ok? MaccWiki (talk) 13:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * it's ok.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Cast of Pepito Manaloto
Why you removed those cast i added. MaccWiki (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The references you added didn't mention those actors are regular or recurring cast members.TheHotwiki (talk) 01:05, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The others cast of the show has also have a ref but didn't mention those actors and actresses are regular or recurring cast members. And you didn't remove them. MaccWiki (talk) 02:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Which references are you talking about? TheHotwiki (talk) 09:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Joshua Dionisio is not a cast member of the show according to the source you added. MaccWiki (talk) 06:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Then delete it then.TheHotwiki (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey
User:Geraldo Perez has been here for a long time. Please don't put warning templates on their page--they deserve an actual note. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 00:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * And so am I. It was a level 1 warning template anyway and it wasn't added in his talk page for no reason.TheHotwiki (talk) 02:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Feels?
Why is that T of "the" not counted as the first letter? — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 14:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You could have googled it as it is common knowledge. Anyway, try reading Alphabetical order.TheHotwiki (talk) 18:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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HELP! (Long-term abuse: User:Russel641)
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I can't instantly revert all of over 150+ edit contributions of Russel641, so I hope that someone would report that user with perfection and extreme caution. -136.158.42.180 (talk) 08:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Report it to the administrators.TheHotwiki (talk) 09:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

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I need your help can you review the article I created for Joaquin Domagoso.
Good day, I would have asked for help because someone proposed a deletion in the article I created, he said no because he is the mayor's son, this is not a basis to say that he is an actor and he doesn't have any significant roles on television. I also have a list of shows and series that he voted for me not to be deleted and someone also helped, I hope you can help me thank you. --7starunited (talk) 13:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021
Hello, I'm Scope creep. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Artikulo 247 have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.  scope_creep Talk  21:17, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * What is this warning about? I created an article for a TV series that is set to premiere in 2 months (January 2022). Articles for upcoming TV series are common in Wikipedia. The references I added also came from different sources, not just the website of the TV network that will broadcast the TV series.TheHotwiki (talk) 21:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of the sources are announcements of casting and don't constitute any analysis of how notable the program is. There is no analysis offered whether even to consider watching it. You have made it the case that by its mere existance makes it worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia, making it no more an inclusion in a directory. The only saving grace of the article is the series will air in 8 weeks. Stating that uncoming articles are common is really not ok. In the last two days, I saw an article that was airing until late 2023. What an absurd situation. Why not wait until the series is out, find out if it any good and then post the article?    scope_creep Talk  12:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * If a series isn't out til late 2023, I wouldn't make an article to begin with. While I made sure, when creating the article for Artikulo 247, that there would be references including from third party sources to back up the article. The series is written in a neutral state, and all information in the article are backed up with a reliable source. The series already has begun filming which is also mentioned in the article. TheHotwiki (talk) 12:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * They're fan site sources, there is genuine references in there but a lot of seem to be clickbait sites, image and fan sites. Can I ask you something. I notice that a lot of these series articles with the same format are all made by GMA. Are you being paid to create these crystal ball articles, or do you work there, or know somebody that works there? The reason I ask is the terrible junk article you created, re above and is now at Afd. Also the images your posting, for example at To Have & to Hold (Philippine TV series), in the immediate top, below the lede, doesn't seem to follow the guidance offered by the manual of style, on this. Why is that? Of the 10'000's of tv and film articles that I have reviewed, none of them have that format of image, so prominently displayed. Why is that?   scope_creep Talk  14:21, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all, what are these fansite sources? SunStar and The Manila Times are newspapers in the Philippines. Philippine Entertainment Portal is a website owned by Summit Media. GMA Network has its own news agency. I've been using them in Wikipedia for years and no one told me those are fansites. I also don't appreciate being accused of "being paid". I have no connections to GMA Network. I have been editing Wikipedia since 2006. The article nominated for AFD (List of current GMA Network contract artists), wasn't created by me. I edited it recently (October 2021) and added references as it was outdated and lacked references. The last time I edited that article, before I revamped it was way back in 2018. You can check the page history of that article. While the photos of the actors added in TV articles, are added for identification. Other articles such as American Idol and The Real Housewives of Orange County have done this.TheHotwiki (talk) 15:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That is coolio, thanks for that. But currently you look as though your trying to promote these people on Wikipedia. The Philippine Entertainment Portal is a clickbait site, the SunStar and The Manila Times, I've no doubt are extremly excellent papers, they are, but they take part in clickbait in the entertainment and culture section's as much as any other newspaper. You shouldn't be the GMA news agency, if your writing about their series, except to prove it exists. I never accused of anything, I simply asked in the simplest way possible. I understand the need for colour and images to provide depth and zhuzh it up a bit, but when your article's follow a format that makes themselves looks like clickbait, it is natural to become a wee bit suspicious, particularly since they all look the same. That would raise suspicion in anybody. You also put a huge number of edit's into List of current GMA Network contract artists. That article was a straight up subversion of the Wikipedia of Terms of Use. The article at American Idol follows the guidelines at WP:MOS exactly. There is no comparison here. Those judges in the American Idol are not displayed in the same manner that your doing so prominently, immediately under the lede. It is unacceptable and can't go on. Please follow the guidelines, like everybody else. I plan to check your work for a while.   scope_creep Talk  15:51, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Promote who? I rarely edit the Wikipedia articles for Filipino artists and personalities related to GMA Network. You can look up at the Wikipedia pages of the artists appearing in Artikulo 247, and you won't see an edit from me. I edit the Wikipedia article for shows appearing in GMA Network. But I don't edit every Wikipedia page related to GMA Network, as I'm selective to what I edit. I also have other interests, which are easy to spot in my user page/contribution page.TheHotwiki (talk) 19:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * I'm confused by this warning? What is this about now?TheHotwiki (talk) 00:29, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Adding number of seasons on infobox
Why did you remove my edit for adding number of seasons for Prima Donnas? They will have a second season and number of seasons are added to the info box if the season has been aired. Season one is already finished and season 2 is on the way so I don’t understand your removal from the info box. 58.69.105.140 (talk) 14:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Season 2 hasn't aired fyi.TheHotwiki (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Please add 1 on number of season on the info box of The World Between Us since season 2 will release on November 22. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.105.140 (talk) 23:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah just no, because thats misinformation. The series took a break, it doesn't mean its returning for a 2nd season.TheHotwiki (talk) 23:48, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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Twice singles discography
Look at the Wikipedia page for The Feels it is in the Formula of Love: O+T=<3 or even better use any music streaming service The Feels is in the Album. Lightoil (talk) 11:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * So? it isn't the title track/single of the album, thats "Scientist".TheHotwiki (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The single version of the song isn't even included in the physical edition of the album. Thats a single? Make it make sense.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:11, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

It is still a single in the album just because it is not in the physical album does not mean it not a single. An album can have more than one single not just the title track. Lightoil (talk) 03:13, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Please provide a statement from Jyp Entertainment in which it said The Feels is a single from Formula of Love: O+T=<3. We aren't going to base it in your own opinion.TheHotwiki (talk) 04:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

It is not my opinion that The Feels is a single, Twice released it as a single and added it to the album digitally. Furthermore, there is no we only you other pages on Wikipedia accept the fact that it is a single in the album. Lightoil (talk) 16:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thats just your assumption that it was a single. Feel free to find a reliable source next time.TheHotwiki (talk) 20:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Hotwiki, not sure if you're able to answer my queries. I'm curious on what is considered as multinational boy/girl group and what isn't, take Kep1er for example and compared to Twice. For instance, Kep1er has 3 foreign members (2 Japanese and 1 Chinese) while Twice has 4 foreign members (3 Japanese and 1 Taiwanese), however for the former, the lead listed the group as multinational girl group while Twice is just girl group hence how does the multinational term works given that Kep1er is active in South Korea only with no planned activities in Japan nor other countries as far as I'm awared of.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  12:30, 15 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Just clarification, I'm not planning to change Twice lead section but would like to understand more on, how the multinational term works.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  12:40, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think both girl groups are first and foremost seen as K-Pop artists, especially their main market is South Korea; with their songs mostly sung in Korean language. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Hotwiki Yes both girl group main market is South Korea, but what about the multinational term usage is it's correct/appropriate for inclusion on Kep1er?  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  14:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what to say, since I haven't edited on Kepler's wikipedia page. But in my opinion, regardless whether half of the members aren't from South Korea or not - iirc they were formed in South Korean survival show, and the group is based on South Korea.TheHotwiki (talk) 15:16, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Hotwiki No problem thanks you for your opinion.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  15:38, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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The voice of Popo in Jollitown is Charmaine Cordoviz
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 * Your personal assumption about me is unnecessary and unwarranted. Also learn to find a reliable source. Not a fansite and certainly not IMDb.TheHotwiki (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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February 2022
Thank for formatting the dates of the ref I have provided, I'll try to not forget formatting. I have a question if is it really necessary to format the date of the ref to mdy manually if the article is already using mdy template? —Ctrlwiki (talk) 11:24, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your edits
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I DID EXPLAIN. TWICE. Sumanuil. 04:40, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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But I did for those. Read them or not, they're still there. Sumanuil. 06:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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Your definition of "digital-only discography"
As you said on Twice's discography talk page, you literally said that if a single has been included on digital only album, it doesn't count as single. I'm wondering where you get this definition? -GogoLion (talk) 07:17, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Because the Feels wasn't a single from Formula of Love. JYP Entertainment never labeled it as a single from that album fyi. How is it a single when the single version is not even included in the physical edition? TheHotwiki (talk) 10:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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Pepito Manaloto part 2
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GMA Regional Newscast
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South Korean girl groups
Am on a break from Wikipedia atm so won't see reply till tomorrow. But I wanted to pop in to ask if u thought about going to ANI because of the edit warring on that page? Considering u went to increase pp and were told to warn the user but go to ANI if they resumed edit warring. And I left an edit warring notice on their talk but they carried on anyway with u having to deal with it? Stephanie921 (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think I could send a report to ANI about whatis happening in that article. I only want an article protection for that article, which I don't understand why it isn't protected yet to ip users.TheHotwiki (talk) 20:46, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Had some spare time to reply to this. Why don't you think you could send an ANI report? They're edit warring seems like it would at least get them temp blocked. And if u don't want that I suggest going to increase protection again and explaining why u only want protection, not ANI Stephanie921 (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sending a report to ANI is too much effort for me, especially with different IP users involved.TheHotwiki (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Ah ok, I get u Stephanie921 (talk) 20:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hello I'm Noobguy33. I just saw about the edit in the State of the Nation that you removed the edit of a IP or user I guess so I reverted to the IP's edit but I reverted to your edit because he owns Philippine television wikipedia right? Instead of reverting it you should add reference because I also saw that in my old edit in Frontpage: Ulat ni Mel Tiangco you literally reverted my freaking edit because it was "Trivial". If you don't do anything right, just stop editing articles about the Philippine television, I know that non-Filipinos can edit Philippine television articles because there is no rules of editing about Philippines (Television articles, Politician articles, or Transport articles about the Philippines) but please, just stop owning the aforementioned articles. But I didn't asked you to stop editing Philippine television articles.  Noobguy33   Talk   01:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Resorting to personal attacks and telling your fellow editors to "shut up" isn't a good look. I suggest you refrain going low, or you will be reported to the administrators.TheHotwiki (talk) 03:03, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I apologize. But please, just stop owning Philippine television articles especially on GMA Network programs because you are owning it. But I didn't asked you to stop editing the article. Everyone can edit the articles about the GMA Network related articles but ok I won't edit the articles that you are owning. I will focus on editing about the Transport, the Celebrities, the Politicians. I guess everyone especially the IPs are probably mad at you because they think (like me) that you own the articles.  Noobguy33   Talk   09:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not owning anything. Please stop attacking me before I report you, thank you.TheHotwiki (talk) 06:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm not attacking you but I apologize for what I did though.  Noobguy33   Talk   04:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of my mistaken removal...
I supposed to 'restore' the All-Out Sundays main hosts when I removed Christian Bautista (What I remembered in the previous revisions, both Alden Richards and Julie Anne San Jose are only listed)

My apologies. PJ Santos (talk) 09:46, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Do not remove my subject.
Can you just refrain from removing my topic in your talk page? WikiCentral24 (talk) 07:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You are trolling my talk page, for posting unexplained warnings. Do this again and you will reported straight to the administrators. Also, this is my talk page, I can remove things and especially troll messages if I want to.TheHotwiki (talk) 07:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Abusive admin
I gave the attribution using the templates you yourself sent me and i stopped making my own Plots since you didnt like them either so what do you want for real? Thank you Bradleyk360 (talk) 15:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not an administrator and please refrain from personally attacking editors.TheHotwiki (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

But you are abusive? You mislead me and remove my content falsely accusing me for weeks. I dont want to attack you but you are a little unfair? Bradleyk360 (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

You make pages less attractive
I dont know what is your issue with GMA Network but you clearly Dont know that you consistently acting like the boss of their pages for TV Shows deleting premises again and again doesnt Help. The pages are not attractive without a plot. You can block me, i will still edit until you do so. You are abusive and make no sense, everyone has a right to contribute. I Made these Plots myself first but you so didnt like them that you deleted them and lied about me copying. Now that i actually learn how to Attribute and do it, you complain again. Did you not ask me to make attributions? Since 2005 is a long time being on the Internet annoying people. You should consider take a break for everyone's peace of mind. Bradleyk360 (talk) 15:25, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

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Maria Clara at Ibarra
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Picture and audio format of LIVE broadcasts on GMA Network
Why the warning and reverts, @Hotwiki? I'd like to ask you a few questions for clarifications:


 * 1) Have you seen LIVE broadcasts of GMA in 4K? If so, which platform? (cable, streaming, etc.)
 * 2) Have you heard LIVE broadcasts of GMA in 5.1 surround sound? Which platform too, if there's any?

By LIVE, I mean newscasts and particular shows.

I think that you may have misunderstood and cited a similar article regarding GMA's second phase on digitization.

Though they have the capability, there are still no implementation of this on their live broadcasts nor their live-streams.

With regards with their TV series and other shows (such as "Mga Lihim Ni Urduja"), I would gladly accept that they could be produced in 4K and surround sound since they underwent post-production.

GMA is broadcasted across the country and it is an evident public record that they are still in SDTV on television and in HDTV quality on live-streams. They also do not offer any 4K feeds with 5.1 sound even on cable or on-demand platforms. I don't get why I need citation more than you do on insisting that detail.

Let's discuss this. Let it be known that I don't mean any harm to the page and I assure you that I am editing in good faith.

P.S. I also wish they are broadcasting live in 4K and 5.1 but that's almost impossible even in developed countries. FrostFleece (talk) 11:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Stop using your assumptions in Wikipedia. How about finding reliable sources? Thank you.TheHotwiki (talk) 11:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Whoa, did you even read? I'm trying to discuss this as civil as I can. Get off your high horse. Please also provide sources; it applies to you too.
 * Don't be high-maintenance, @Hotwiki. FrostFleece (talk) 11:54, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You have failed to provide a single reference to any of your edits and thats why you are being reverted. The next time you edit war, you will be reported straight to administrators for edit warring and changing content without posting a reliable source.TheHotwiki (talk) 12:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You are failing to see my point, @Hotwiki and I am sorry. You keep greeting me with warnings and unfriendly responses so I engaged too. As I said, I want this resolved as civil as possible. I am simply trying to make you understand in full detail, so PLEASE, hear me out.
 * Let's discuss one more time on this:
 * Now, while this article states that GMA is undergoing upgrades, it does not mean every show is in 4K now. Only select shows make it to Netflix which you are trying to insist that every show is made to comply with Netflix standards. (I've seen your kind remark on your edits.)
 * To make even a stronger point Eat Bulaga! and other news programs such as 24 Oras is not on Netflix and is never made for the platform. This alone is strong evidence. To reiterate once more, I am talking about LIVE broadcasts.
 * To add, TAPE—Eat Bulaga! producer—is a blocktimer for the network and a separate entity.. GMA News is also struggling to have LIVE regional content in 16:9 HDTV.
 * Now, why I do not have "sources"
 * You can simply turn on the television and see for yourself. It is common knowledge. I cannot lie for something that is publicly known and shown.
 * Only you insist that I find "sources" for picture and audio format. Virtually all Wikipedia pages for TV shows does not necessarily require any citations for these parameters.
 * Though there are content produced in 4K. GMA Network does not officially offer any 4K broadcast with 5.1 surround sound feature nor stream LIVE 4K content online. To state the obvious, GMA content on Netflix are not LIVE if you insist.
 * FINAL POINT : Sure, we will get there; for now, we simply wait for tangible information on actual 4K and 5.1 broadcast. I. would. love. that. too!
 * To make it clear again, I am editing here in good faith nor start a war with you. If you insist on your threats and behavior, I will also gladly take this discussion to the next level and I do not want that for both of us. Please don't take this reply as a threat but more of a friendly discussion.
 * @Hotwiki, please do not bite the newcomers. Thank you. FrostFleece (talk) 14:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Again where is your reference? You are not a representative of GMA Network to just change things in the article of their shows and expect editors here to just allow you to get away with unreferenced edits. Learn to post references. You will be reported the next time you make an unreferenced edit.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:51, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ARE YOU REALLY READING MY REPLIES? I've listed my reasons above. IN BULLET FORM for easier understanding.
 * You are not a representative of GMA either to police and gatekeep these pages religiously. What if I am a representative? Do I need your approval too?
 * Let me say this once that your edits are nothing but pure assumptions from that article. You are full of threats instead of discussing things civilly. Your talk page shows it all. FrostFleece (talk) 15:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've read everything and its not an excuse for you not to post a reference. So again, attach a reference to your next edit. Follow the rules. Thank you. If you have any questions, feel free to contact an administrator. This will be my final response to you in my talk page.TheHotwiki (talk) 23:50, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Updating chart positions
Hotwiki, I just reverted an IP editor for not changing the source when they updated the peak on Padam Padam (song). I expected better of an experienced editor than this. I understand you may have forgot, but please don't forget in future.  Ss  112   07:16, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'm gonna fix it when I look up the sources posted in the article.TheHotwiki (talk) 07:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hey. I'm currently finding sources for those content you keep on removing. I think 24 hours is not enough for finding sources. A more diplomatic approach is to just add "citation needed" instead of removing content. -WayKurat (talk) 02:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, not every sentence in this article needs sources. You should check TV Patrol as it contains a lot of trivial content. -WayKurat (talk) 02:55, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I will just go ahead and report you to the administrators as you don't know how to work well with other editors. All the changes I've done in that section was all reverted by you. Also you have reverted the article more than 3 times in 24 hours, which is a clear violation of 3RR.TheHotwiki (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't shoot yourself in the foot. You insinuated an edit war by removing that content while I'm in the process of finding sources. -WayKurat (talk) 03:10, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * And after 24 hours, there was none. And it is still not valid reason to revert back unreferenced content / trivial content. Every change I made in that section (which goes back to 2020, 3 years ago) were reverted by you. You had all those years/months to add more references fyi to back up those unreferenced content you keep restoring for some reason. I will discuss more of this when I filed a report. TheHotwiki (talk) 03:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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Can you please explain why you removed miniseries? The source I added there was reliable so yes some gma dramas don’t end in a year but if a reliable source said miniseries I think that’s to put miniseries in there since that’s the rule of sources in Wikipedia guidelines. Let me understand please. 120.28.185.206 (talk) 13:52, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I already explained why in the article through my edit summary why is it removed. Just because GMA Network labeled it as a "miniseries", it doesn't mean Wikipedia article should mention it, when in fact most GMA series only last for less than a year. Its trivial and does nothing to the article. Please read Wikipedia is not a newspaper, you don't need dictate every word from GMA Network's press releases in Wikipedia.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm In Love With My Boss
World Premiere: Jan. 15, 2024 on GMA Afternoon Prime replacing "Fast Talk with Boy Abunda" on its timeslot SeanPedia (SP) (talk) 10:01, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You're telling me this because?TheHotwiki (talk) 10:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Spaces between entries on discographies
Hotwiki, nobody has ever had an issue—or if they have, nobody has ever expressed it—with "which lines to edit" on discographies. Besides, entries are already separated with |-, which distinguishes each. The spaces were inconsistently applied and look odd, like somebody's added a blank line by mistake. There really is no visual benefit to adding them where they weren't previously, and I also don't think it's necessary and seems overly fiddly to remove quotation marks from scope="row" and scope="col" when MOS:DTT tells us to format them that way. I could be wrong, but AFAIK, the quotation marks help differentiate the value for the scopes for table software. For example, removing the quotation marks around the values of the table after class= results in plainrowheaders not being able to be applied, so the quotation marks have benefits where you might not expect them to. Thanks.  Ss  112   07:27, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, as I explained before in one of those articles, those "spaces" were added in the editing box, so editors would have an easier time to spot things when editing the article. The Red Velvet and Twice discography pages are full with external links that. Personally speaking, I had a hard time spotting the next entry (album/single/song). The spaces made it easier. Also those extra spaces don't even show up in the article itself anyway. Only those who edit the article will see the extra spaces. So I don't see the need for you to make it a big deal by removing them all. As for removing quotation marks, they aren't needed. They were removed and didn't damage the article.TheHotwiki (talk) 07:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you mean citations, not external links. I've never had a hard time distinguishing each entry and I can't say I've seen any concerns raised anywhere else (talk pages, edit summaries) by other editors that would justify the need to start introducing spaces to table code where they were not previously. You are not the only editor of these articles and this appears to be solely for your personal benefit, when I and at least one other editor that I've noticed have removed them. As for removing quotation marks, I say if it's not broke, don't fix it—nor change it. There's no need to take away things like that.  Ss  112   11:02, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You were/are the only one that had/have an issue with those changes (extra spaces/removing of quotation marks). I don't remember anyone aside from you, directly voicing their disagreement towards me with those extra spaces. Also didn't you already remove those extra spaces and I didn't react when you removed those and I didn't add them back when you removed those. So why in the world are you stressing me out in the talk page, to the extra spaces that you already removed anyway? Also take your advice, those changes didn't break the article for you to be fixing/changing them. Fyi, I'm editing using my cellphone, and like I said, "personally speaking", it was hard to spot. If thats hard to understand, then we can just agree to disagree. You already removed those extra spaces and I didn't argue by the way, to bring those back, for you to be barking on my talk page like as if I did something so offensive to the article. What happened to assuming good faith to other editors? You are acting so agressive in my talk page and I don't appreciate it.TheHotwiki (talk) 14:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * May I add. Nkon21, removing extra spaces last month in the Twice singles discography - that editor actually didn't address me in their edits, about extra spaces. I didn't think that editor had issues with those "extra spaces". Unlike you SS12, that editor only deleted few extra spaces and I brought back those extra spaces for the consistency of the article. When you removed those extra spaces in Red Velvet discography last month, I have yet to make any changes to that article since then fyi. Today, in Twice singles discography when you deleted those extra spaces, I also have yet to make any changes to that article since then. It just seems so out of the blue, you are suddenly bringing this up now in my talk page, when you already removed those "extra spaces" anyway. The Red Velvet extra spaces erasure was already last month. In both articles, I didn't say anything (until you posted in my talkpage) when you removed those extra spaces, and I didn't try to revert your edits as well for you to be having a reaction. TheHotwiki (talk) 15:02, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't feel I'm being aggressive nor "barking", and I'm certainly not here to "stress you out". I'm not saying all of this as if you had taken issue with my edit(s) nor did I say that you didn't make the edits in good faith. But just because someone is editing in good faith doesn't mean another editor can't or won't disagree with their edits. Regarding "I am the only one who had/has an issue with those changes", Nkon21 directly went to the trouble of restoring all the quotation marks and you reverted them removing spaces between chart names and between some singles, which certainly tells me they had an issue with them not being there and gave me reason to think you may revert or take issue with my edits, so I came here to address it. That's what I was referring to with "at least one other editor". Concerning "take your [own] advice", I was undoing a change you made that didn't need to be made because it wasn't broken in the first place. I know and you've explained why you made the edits, there's no real need for the discussion to go on, but I'm only saying this in the hopes you don't introduce such changes to other articles unnecessarily. That's my reason for being here. The last thing I want to say is I am sure you can do a lot more beneficial things then spending your time, as I'm sure it took quite a bit of time, to remove every instance of quotation marks in scope="col", scope="row" and row- and colspan values when it doesn't need to be done.  Ss  112   15:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Its not an issue in my opinion. Me adding extra spaces and removing quotation marks in the table, didn't damage the article and I had good reasoning for it. Also, like I've already said, you already removed those extra spaces and I didn't do anything about it. TheHotwiki (talk) 15:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What was the "good reasoning" for removing the quotation marks? You even said it doesn't make a difference, so I don't see the need to spend time removing them.  Ss  112   15:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed quotation marks (" ") because the colspan/rowspan still work without them, and it makes the editing box look cleaner. Are you actually having problems with the removals of those? Like I've said it doesn't affect the articles, for you to be making this, a big deal. I'm not also edit warring with you in those articles, for you to be having a reaction. So do you want to keep adding quotation marks when using colspan/rowspan, when I know it doesn't make any difference?TheHotwiki (talk) 15:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ?? I was only talking about you removing them, not me "adding" them. They are present in almost all instances of users creating tables. I'm confused. I think this discussion has worn out its use. I don't think you need to spend time removing something what you admit makes no difference. I don't think it looks neater; I think it looks better with them present, and for any potential issue with the HTML formatting down the line I think it's better to retain them. That's all. Thanks.  Ss  112   15:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Cast of some GMA shows
Why are the roles of the cast of some GMA shows (i.e. Spooky Nights; skip to section "Siyam") not listed in the articles?  RM X Y  (talk • contribs) 00:30, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I didn't create that article and its cast/characters section. Also there's a talk page for the article of that show. Discuss it there. TheHotwiki (talk) 00:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

GMA drama series articles
It would be nice if you add links to the GMA drama series genres in their articles since it’s already common to do so on a tv series article. If you’ve seen all tv series articles of different countries both the article and info box has links so it can be made. 120.28.248.11 (talk) 14:27, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Philippine television drama is already linked in the opening line of those articles to begin with. Also, genres are also linked in the infobox and the lead section already has too many links. No need to plaster the lead section adozen of links. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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Regarding full stop.
@Hotwiki, I think we should remove the period from the honorary members in List of X-Men members. I am not going to edit war with you so I am leaving a discussion at your talk unlike previous talks about this in Talk:List of X-Men members. Removing pronouns I get it but not removing full stop? Recently commas were removed between months and years because it was correct grammatical rule. If you have anything like wikipedia rules pages that say we can put full stop in the table even after just words or description, then it is good to stay there. Though I think removing full stop will be better from grammar perspective. Sewnbegun (talk) 06:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The two word description is fine as it is, so as the period. Leave it as it is. Hotwiki (talk) 06:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It is not fine and it is just a full stop, why can't we remove it on the basis of grammatical rules? Sewnbegun (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Agree to disagree. Its such a minor detail. Let it go, thank you. Hotwiki (talk) 06:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure I will but let me get confirmed by questioning here first. Sewnbegun (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)