User talk:Ian13/Archive5

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Re: Userpage layout.
To continue the discussion originally here (and I don't know if you're watching my talk page so I posted this here too, apologies if you see it twice), I'd love some help on my user page (or talk page) layout. There are some followup comments on my talk page in regards to your comments there, and to that end, a new section created on my userpage about things that need to be fixed.

I would very much appreciate any and all help! I'm slowly learning Wikipedia markup as I go along. It's been a few weeks, I'd like to think I'm a relatively fast learner. :) -   nath a nrdotcom  (Talk • Contribs)  07:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help, please let me know if anything else looks off. - [[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Ontario.svg|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|20px]] nath a nrdotcom  (Talk • Contribs)  19:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Your comments requested
I'd like your thoughts on a brainstorm I've tried to articulate here: User:Leifern/Adminwatch idea. And feel free to spread the word. --Leifern 16:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA
Sorry, my point still stands. If you haven't edited in the article namespace recently enough for there to be 150 edits for Mathbot to dig up, then you haven't really been contributing to the encyclopedia. Even some of the busiest people dealing with meta affairs edit now and then. Johnleemk | Talk 14:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem, just wanted to ensure you were aware. Thanks! Ian13/talk 17:28, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful.

An extra note. Your candidacy fell at the lower end of bureaucrat discretion. Upon review I determined that the responses displayed a community consensus that merited your promotion at this time; however, please make the extra effort to reread and consider the opposing and neutral votes and let them guide you in future work in Wikipedia and your success in being an admin. Cheers, Cecropia 18:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Congrats! - [[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Ontario.svg|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|20px]] nath a nrdotcom  (Talk • Contribs)  19:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I will add my congratulations here, Ian13. I think you will be a really great admin, and I look forward to seeing more of your articles at Wikipedia. Good luck! :)--Firsfron 22:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats and don't worry about trying to do more article work. Your talents lie where they lie, don't try to be all things to all people. One puppy's opinion.
 * If I can ever be of any assistance, do not hesitate to let me know. KillerChihuahua?!? 23:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will aim to do some more article work, just to try and ensure I am fully qualified in all areas of adminship, however I will still mainly do wikipedia tasks. Ian13/talk 10:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Best wish for your adminship.--Jusjih 02:50, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Contratulations. haz  (user talk)e 11:23, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This was me... honest! I was using a public computer and didn't log on, so I just used my signature template. haz  (user talk)e 21:29, 5 March 2006
 * No problem. It's just because the tag broke section editing (theres a surprise), I was unsure of the comment. Ian13/ talk 18:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Congrats, well done Ian13! You helped me loads. eddie 19:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! You deserve this and keep up the good work! -- S iva1979 Talk to me  14:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

~/~/~C*O*N*G*R*A*T*U*L*A*T*I*O*N*S~/~/~--Victoria Eleanor 14:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Well done! -- Nataly a 18:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations Ian13 --Ugur Basak 09:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Ian13. Please use your new powers boldly, but also even-handedly and with self-reflection. I have confidence in you. :-)    GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 23:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

UPA
Hi Ian13/Archive5! You've signed up to be a judge for the Esperanza User Page Award! You'll have three user pages to examine. The user pages you get coincide with your signup number. So if you signed up to be a judge in spot 1 than you will get nominations 1-3. Pick your favorite one, and list it in the finalist section. After all 5 judges have chosen a finalist it's time to award them 1-10 points in the four categories:


 * Attractiveness: general layout, considering colour scheme and/or use of tables if applicable
 * Usefulness: links to subpages or editing aids, helpful information
 * Interesting-ness: quirky, unique, captivating, or funny content
 * General niceness: at the judges' discretion

Please remember to include Subpages in your judging criteria. See the Scores section on this page for additional information on your job as a judge.

Keep in mind that your scores are confidential! Email User: with your scores and final picks. As soon as all the scores have been tallied, a winner will be announced! Thanks. KnowledgeOfSelf 12:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC) The pages that you are to pick a finalist for are:
 * User:Smurrayinchester
 * User:DakotaKahn
 * User:Catapult (bot of freakofnurture)

Congrats
Congrats on becoming an admin! I was hoping you could help with something. In deletion review (and the deletion process for that matter) and article was deleted that I believe should not have been. User:Tony Sidaway agrees. The article was deleted for notability, but the person in question was mentioned in about a dozen different mainstream media articles, included a recent front page article in the New York Times. Can you take a look and vote accordingly? The review is here. Deletion Review. Thanks. -- Alpha269 04:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

need sysop help
Could you please bock the following IP:

129.100.190.85. He vandalized the Federalism article, wiping out introduction, replacing it with "Joe is the man."

Thanks   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 22:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message. I have warned the user, and I will keep an eye on his/her edits. Blocking policy however forbids blocking without warning for vandalism, so I think this should be the most appropriate course of action. Ian13/ talk 17:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
I think we edit conflicted because I was was about to do the block after I reverted a user page. Thanks again.-- Dakota ~  °  22:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, no problem :) Ian13/ talk 22:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

80.188.28.2
You blocked for 31 hours for vandalism/etc. A quick search with Google and a traceroute reveal that this is an open proxy located in the Czech Republic. Judging by the contrib history, it is obviously being utilized by User:TruthCrusader, who is also located in the Czech Republic. - Chadbryant 22:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have a bit of a problem with the phrasing Mr. Bryant uses in those remarks. "It is obviously" states that he can see no other conclusion. Based on his behavior in placing sockpuppet tags without consulting administrators or requesting evidence in proving his claims, I believe that his comments can not be taken seriously. Simply because there is an open proxy does not mean that the one person that Mr. Bryant believes is 1) on Wikipedia and 2) allegedly from the location that the proxy originates from does NOT mean that it is that person. Are we to assume that everyone who would post to Wikipedia from a *.gov location works for the White House or the Pentagon? Maybe George W. Bush is goofing off again, or maybe he's not. It's hard to tell, and at any rate Chad does not have the ability TO tell. I say that his comments should be investigated, but not taken to heart. He has a history on rec.sport.pro-wrestling of utilizing proxy servers in a mad attempt to disguise himself. The unfortunate part for him is that he always fails at doing so. See Master Of RSPW for a good example. --FARVA 03:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you clarify, is it a proxy or an open proxy. If it were a proxy I would shorten ban, and if it were open I would make it indefinate. Google seems to throw up no treasures for me :S Thanks! Ian13/ talk 22:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * See - it's listed as such on several sites. It traceroutes to ms.filak-reznik.cz. - Chadbryant 22:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Weird. Google UK and .com are giving different results. Anyway - extending to indefinate as open proxy. Thanks! Ian13/ talk 22:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I simply searched for "80.188.28.2", with quotes intact. - Chadbryant 22:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Now try searching for "Chad Bryant" and "Utah" with quotes intact. --FARVA 03:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

United Kingdom Userbox
Hi Ian,

We're having some trouble with the User United Kingdom user box. Having been up for 2 months since December with the text "This user comes from the United Kingdom", or slight variants thereof, some people decided (on the basis of a straw poll of four votes to one) to change it to "This user lives in the United Kingdom".

The reason they give is that the template's text and categorisation didn't match: the category linked to Wikipedians in the United Kingdom. I feel strongly however, that the TEXT in a user box is far more important than the CATEGORY, since most users will pick their boxes on the basis of the text, when browsing through the available boxes (that's what I did anyway). Therefore either the box's category should be changed, or it should be left in the slightly anomalous state as it has been for all that time. The text should NOT be changed.

It seems to me that a golden rule of user boxes should be that the essence of their text does not change once they're established, otherwise users are suddenly misrepresented without their necessarily realising it. What do you suggest as the resolution to this issue? &mdash; SteveRwanda 12:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am currently reviewing all evidence and views presented on the page. Please note that looking from the amount of reverting, it is likely I will protect the template, and call for a comprimising discussion on the talk page. I know that I will always protect the wrong version, but still :) Ian13/ talk 16:38, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Supaman89 (Image:North america.GIF)
Hi, the thing is that you sent me a message called "last change" saying that the pictures that I uploaded "Northamerica.gif" didn't have the original link but it did... anyway here it is again so you can check it and send me a message back. thank you.

URL: http://www.mcx.es/polco/images/Norteamerica.gif

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for your message. I am afraid I do not understand what you are refering to? However reviewing the image, there is no indication I can find to show the image is free from copyright. It has to be specifically noted, otherwise officially all right as reserved. Ian13/ talk 13:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Supaman's anwer

Well yeah you might be right but come on everything is copyrighted only in very few sites it says that it's free to use so my question is would it make any difference if I kind of change the colours or something and put some names to the image as if it was made by me??? just the necesary so they cannot say that it's their picture... haha that seems legal to me it might not be honest but technically it's legal... don't get me wrong man but it's the truth tell me how many pages you've seen that says "you are free to use this picture". I'm just trying to make wikipedia a better place with more information ok.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 (talk • contribs)


 * I understand what you are saying, but then it wouldn't be a free encyclopedia, and also the legal costs would stack up. Also, modifications are dirivative works, and hence still protected by copyright, and quite possibly just illegal in themselves if the author prohibits dirivative works (which we have to presume). Ian13/ talk 21:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have listed the file at Possibly unfree images, and you are welcomed to present any evidence there. Ian13/ talk 21:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Template talk:User United Kingdom
Regarding the situation here, if I were to Request a Comment, how would I do so? I have looked at the categories on WP:RFC and none of them seem to fit a userbox dispute very well.

The reason I ask is because I have little doubt that I am in the right here, and I believe it to be a safe assumption that the other side feels the same way about themselves and there is no real compromise to be reached here - it should be one or the other. If more people comment in good faith (by good faith I mean something above "all userboxes are stupid") and there is a clear consensus against my point, I have no problem leaving the template as is however I am reluctant to do so because of what I see as two users (one of which is now using a more correct template anyway) being stubborn and hypocritical reverting the edit simply because it has been revealed that they were using the template under a misconception.

The proposal I put forth at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Location/United Kingdom with five comments (4:1 in favour) is clearly not a scientificly accurate indicator of the wishes of everyone who uses these templates and I have not purported it to be so, but at present it is the best we have and as such I feel it should hold more weight than the assumptions put forth by SteveRwanda. I see it as little different from a Tfd discussion - not everyone who uses it will coment or vote, but the decision will be upheld regardless.

I don't mean to make my case for change to you personally, but your "straw poll" comment led me to believe that's how you viewed the proposal and I would like to make you aware of how I see it. - Hayter 15:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message. My straw poll comment was because a) Straw polls are bad and don't always promote discussion, b) They can be seen as final but yet it may be more appropriate to reconsider in the future, c) It is easy for them not to reflect overall community views. I understand how both parties are slightly to blame, and also how they have both tried to overcome the situation. Although I do not want to become involved in the situation (since I have used admin tools on the page in the conflict), but I hope that it is possible for a conclusion to be reached. Another straw poll could be highly appropriate, as long as people explain their choise, and others explain why they feel they are misguided. Personally I think all parties are acting in good faith, especially due to lack of reverts after unprotection. Unfortunatly it does seem that userboxes don't fit into RfC atall (however bringing it there could lead to the "all userboxes are stupid" views). You may wishto host a local request for comment over content within the talk page, and possibly add a notice into the userbox to highlight this. I hope this is of some use :) Ian13/ talk 18:08, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Userbox Barnstar
Ian13, I hereby award you the userbox barnstar for contributions to WikiProject Userboxes.

--Preschooler.at.heart 02:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Wahay! Thanks :D Ian13/ talk 20:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Link removal (moved from within other discussions)
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list.

But i understand why you are doing this and I'm sorry for you.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans (talk • contribs)

deleting only one link among commercial sites links
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list. Deleting only one link shows something wrong and not nice about you.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans (talk • contribs)


 * You added a link to a commercial site which I (and others) considered didn't add anything to the article, and was a form of advertising. The other links on the page I do not consider commercial, and have relevence to the content of the article. You also added your link to a variety of articles, which is not nessary for a legitimate link. Please refer to WP:SPAM. Do not hesitate to contact me again. Ian13/ talk 20:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I added the link at the bottom

You better delete all the other commercial links.

sebans

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans (talk • contribs)


 * I am sorry, but I do not forful demands, and I have stated above why your link was removed, whilst others remained. Ian13/ talk 16:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Community Justice
Hey Ian, I'm busy until the end of March; so I've made you acting chair of WP:CJ. Okay? Computerjoe 's talk 21:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. Ian13/ talk 16:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Best of luck!
Good luck on your exams:) —   nath a(?) nrdotcom (T • C • W) 21:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Seconded! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 11:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The day after I officially end (June 30), my Wikipedia addition wll return ;) (I hope!) Ian13/ talk 15:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

GCSE's! *gasp* Good luck!! -- Nataly a 18:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Community Justice
This is a notification reminding you all, especially councillors, that we are having a meeting where we will try to review progress so far and make a few decisions.

This meeting will be held on a wikipage, and well end on Saturday 15th April.

You can partake in the meeting here.

Thank you,

Computerjoe 's talk 17:07, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (Chairman of WP:CJ.)

Message delivered through AWB.

Kosovo
See: Talk:Serbia --Hipi Zhdripi 19:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't really understand why you are refering me there. And also, just so you know, I have been there, and really I can;t understand much of the broken/non-english there. Sorry! Ian13/ talk 20:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

163.160.252.16
Just to let you know, I undid your block of this shared IP address following a complaint on OTRS. About 22 of the 24 hours of the block have already run, and as you said this is a slow-moving vandal, so I think the block has already served it's purpose, and there should be no problems unblocking :) --bainer (talk) 09:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Ian13/ talk 09:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Vandal/3RR assist
Thanks for the block re: Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. ;-) Netscott 12:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. I try to help (even if I do manage to incrrectly block a fair few shared IPs!) Ian13/ talk 12:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * In such shared IP cases I think the norm is to only block for several hours as opposed to an entire day. Hopefully there will not be much collateral damage for NYU.edu users. I wonder if there's a way to just block the actual User:216.165.12.101 but not user registered account under that IP? Netscott 12:50, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there is not. Shared IPs are a pain however, since they need to be blocked (and if a block is too short they just come back - esp. with long term vandals), yet blocking can disturb others. You can't just block the IP (and not those who use it), but I think its on the MediaWiki bug system. Recognising shared IPs is also a pain... Ian13/ talk 12:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I see you did the right thing and adjusted the block to reduce possibility for collaterals. Hopefully the MediaWiki bug system will see such functionality made possible on Wikipedia. Netscott 13:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

OTRS
Hi Ian. Yes, I'm the contact (along with Mindspillage). We always need volunteers, so thanks for putting your name forward. If it's OK, we'll have a look at what you do, and see if your experience and style fit with what we are looking for, and let you know within the next couple of days. Thanks again -- sannse (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

My signature (Jonathan)
My signature worked!!! (if you don't already know.) Thanks for all the help. Jonathan talk  00:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool, glad I managed to assist you. Take care. Ian13/ talk 09:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

My userbox vote
hi there Ian13! I completely understand, and will change my vote comment accordingly. I'm sure you understand that my vote was not easily swayed, and that I took as much as I could into account when making my final vote. There were just a couple of things that I clearly didn't quite understand, which Mal explained to me (as is evident on the talk pages). You're right that the discussion should have taken place at the appropriate discussion page. Con Dem Talk 23:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. I feel everyone was evidently acting in good faith, but I just wanted to make all parties aware of the situation to prevent it happening elsewhere on a wider scale which could affect the vote. The problem with private communication, is that people on the 'opposing' side arn't also able to clarify their reasoning. Thanks! Ian13/ talk 09:38, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
Happy Easter! You have an amazing user page, by the way. At some point I might ask for you help/advice in creating one like that of my own, if that's alright... Con D  e  m Talk 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much - and it would be no problem atall. I hope you also have a happy easter :) Ian13/ talk 09:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Spring Celebration/Easter


Everyone else seems to have stolen all the good Easter pictures and stuff, but I wish you a Happy Easter all the same. — FireFox • T [16:18, 16 April 2006]


 * Yey! Jelly Bellys - my favorite! I hope you have a nice easter. :) Ian13/ talk 19:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Your comment on my talk page
What personal attacks are you talking about? I'm being labeled, attacked and harassed by User:Timothy_Usher but I don't see a similar rebuke of this user by you on his talk page. Is there some reason why you are settling on taking sides? User247 20:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I personally consider such comments as "you got owned" (and I am only judging on comments made from this user account - not from suspected sockpuppets) as personal attacks and incivil. Therefore my message should be viewed in good faith, and asking for you to do the editing I presume you are here on an encyclopedia to do, and to and refrain from making comments which others may feel were incivil. It is Wikipedia policy to warn people who may be seen to be heading down the wrong path to try and induce change and help people see why users are concerned. I hope this helps. Ian13/ talk 08:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Community Justice/Elections
As Community Justice has over 30 members, we are beginning the elections process.

If you are interested in becoming the chairman, the chief executive or councillor please add yourself, and a statement, to Community Justice/Elections.

Voting shall begin on April 24th, and end on May 1st. To see if you are eligible for a vote, please see Community Justice/Elections.

Thank you,

Computerjoe 's talk 21:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Your userpage design
Hello! Would you mind awfully if I stole your 'Click to show' thing for my userpage? I was planning a revamp, and the easiest way to go about it is probably to steal ideas from other userpages ¬_¬ --Doug (talk)</FONT> 22:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You are more than welcome. Good luck! Ian13/ talk 09:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)