User talk:JFG/Archive 2006–2015

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United Federation of Planets
Hello! I added the thoughts behind my addition of the EU mention on the United Federation of Planets article. Please check it out on the Talk:United Federation of Planets page. Your comments would be very much welcomed. &mdash;akghetto talk 16:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

British overseas territories
Hi - it's best not to rename pages by cutting-and-pasting - this loses the page history and makes things confusing. Instructions on the right way to do it are at meta:Help:Renaming (moving) a page - depending on how long ago you created your account you might not have the "move" feature yet, and if there was page history you wanted to replace at the new location, you can't move over that. In that case the thing to do is post at Requested moves, and be patient until someone helps you out. Anyway, I've fixed the move - if you go to the "history" tab of British overseas territories, you'll see all the old history that used to be at Overseas territory of the United Kingdom. Ask if you have questions. CDC (talk) 04:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the move!
This Overseas territory of the United Kingdom link jungle was such a mess that I couldn't move it simply... It's the first time I wished I were an admin ;-) By the way, I also cleaned a lot of redirects to the official name and I proposed a few of them for deletion with the new prod procedure. If you disagree, feel free to list them on RfD instead. -- JFG 04:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

More overseas territories
Hi again - I noticed you redirected Overseas territory to List of dependent territories and I did the same for Overseas territories which was the last remaining big redirect pointing to Overseas territory of the United Kingdom. However, what I'd really like to do is piece together a meaningful article to summarize the concept of overseas territories, with links to history, geography and administrative structures. The List of dependent territories is a good start but it should be reduced to a simpler list format after the main article is written. So, how should I proceed? Just go ahead and start writing (even if just a stub with disambig for now) or move the list to the main Overseas territories article to preserve its history? Any advice appreciated at this late/early hour... -- JFG 05:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello again - regarding a more generic article like dependent territory or overseas territory: I think that's a good idea - I was a little surpised that I couldn't find one already. However - I think List of dependent territories is the best bet for a starting point; it's got some good clear descriptions of these territories, but isn't so huge that it needs to be split up; the list of territories that fit this description just isn't very huge, and needs plenty of explanation along with it. So my suggestion would be that List of dependent territories be renamed (moved) to dependent territory, and the generic redirects (overseas territories, etc) be pointed there. Does this make sense?  I can do the move if it sounds good to you, but it needs administrator privileges. CDC (talk) 17:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with your comments on my talk page. Before moving List of dependent territories, let me start working on the contents, because I can't decide what would be the best title, so I need to dig deeper into the subject and the history of such territories as various remnants of colonial empires. The way each nation administered their empires had a direct influence on the way overseas territories are perceived even today... I'll let you know when I need the move. Thanks for your help. -- JFG 23:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Hofstadter's law
''Note: This discussion was started on User_talk:Crzrussian, then moved here for convenience. Hey, MediaWiki, give us Gmail-style conversations please ;-)'' -- JFG 16:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Crzrussian. You wrote that Hofstadter's law is not worthy of a standalone article and redirected it to GEB. I respectfully disagree: this adage has grown to be a significant part of computer culture, independently of its original mention in Hofstadter's book, and is nowadays cited by people who have perhaps not read GEB (personally, this law is one of the few things I remember 20 years after reading this book). In addition to its similarity with Murphy's law with a self-reference twist, comparisons can be made with the mythical man-month and discussions of procrastination. Hofstadter's law is probably more well-known than many others cited in List of adages named after people (Imbesi's Law of the Conservation of Filth comes to mind). Besides, the GEB article does not even mention this law at all, so your redirect is confusing to people who turn to Wikipedia for a definition of Hofstadter's law. Therefore I took the liberty to revert this page and the other spelling Hofstadter's Law. I hope that more people will eventually expand this stub and turn it into a significant article. -- JFG 14:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * JFG, the problem is that I don't think this article will ever go beyond a dictionary definition. It may be a notable adage, I don't know, but if nothing encyclopedic could be said about it, it cannot have its own article. What if we reiderct it into Adages named after people? You can insert GEB info there if it's not there already? - the.crazy.russian   τ   ç   ë  14:36, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. I see your point but I believe that enough "culture" has developed around this "law" to foster significant encyclopedic input over time. As it stands, it provides enough information for a casual definition, and let's give it a chance at expanding. I've added a few pointers for starters. -- JFG 15:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In that case, I hope you won't mind if I end up nominating it for AfD to get consensus to merge and redirect. - the.crazy.russian   τ   ç   ë  15:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure, go for AfD if you like... I'm not passionately attached to this particular page, I just thought it deserved a chance! While you're at it, take a look at List of eponymous laws which should be merged with List of adages named after people (I've just added merge templates there). Incidentally, it looks like Hofstadter's law was removed and added several times from those lists independently, so there's definitely reason for debate. -- JFG 15:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sign “☮” the Times (album)
Hi there. I'm sorry to bother with a useless personal question, but I noticed that you moved the article for Sign 'O' the Times and replaced the O with a peace sign. I'm a XP user browsing with Firefox, and I can't seem to get the symbol to display. I'm using Lucida Sans Unicode as my font, and Unicode (UTF-8) as my default character encoding. Do you know how I might be able to get these symbols to display? Thanks. Thebogusman 01:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm a Mac user but I have tested those pages on an XP box before posting them: OK in Firefox, bad in IE. Can you see Chinese characters such as 我愛你? If you don't, try going to Language Options in the XP config panel, select the Languages tab and check "Install files for Far-East languages". Reboot and pray ;-) -- JFG 02:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that fixed it. :) Thebogusman 03:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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re: MediaWiki talk:Rfcurl
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Rename request @de.wp
Hi JFG, Dein Antrag auf Umbenennung des gleichnamigen Benutzers könnte bearbeitet werden, es fehlt nur die Bestätigung, dass Du diesen Antrag auch wirklich selbst gestellt hast, siehe hier. — YourEyesOnly (talk) 04:54, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Bestätigt, ich bin's! — JFG talk 06:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Vielen Dank. Der deutsche Benutzer ist nun umbenannt, damit ist der Account frei. Bitte merge ihn baldmöglichst in Deinen SUL-Verbund. Viele Grüße — YourEyesOnly (talk) 04:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Pirate Parties
Please don't arbitrarily choose names for political parties, many of them have official names, and it is preferred to have articles on political parties at their official name. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 23:25, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I totally agree that we should use the official names. The problem is that most of these names are just "Pirate Party" in a local language, so we must have a unified way to distinguish them on the English Wikipedia. See the move discussion on Talk:Pirate Party Germany for a more detailed rationale. Happy to discuss further. — JFG talk 06:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I talking about the English language ones, if you would look into them, you would see they have official names. 117Avenue (talk) 07:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. I see you reverted Pirate Party of Canada, well done. — JFG talk 08:25, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Also reverted Pirate Party of New Zealand - for same reasons as above. If you find you need to disambiguate several parties with no particular territorial designation then stick to those parties only, and don't go changing those party names that are clearly unique. PPNZ is the official and registered name of the party and as such needs no such treatment. It also has a number of metadata subpages that are used across the NZ politics wikiproject ... I'd suggest it is your responsibility as the move-editor to make sure you're not breaking anything so fundamental. Fan &#124;  talk  &#124; 10:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

The official registered name of the Czech Pirate Party in the Czech language is "Česká pirátská strana" (official page) which translates to English exactly as "Czech Pirate Party". The official title already includes the demonym "Czech" (Česká), so its official name is not just "Pirate Party" in Czech language. Please ask an admin to move it back to its previous title. Thanks.--Der Golem (talk) 16:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right; I just requested the move to the official party name. — JFG talk 08:45, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Czech Pirate Party
Hello JFG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Czech Pirate Party, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''no way that's uncontroversial, most of your other moves have been reverted back to the nameform you want to move this one from. Needs a proper discussion.''' Thank you. Ged UK  12:20, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Whittaker Street
I have declined your PROD on this article, because it was already PRODded and dePRODded last year, so cannot be PRODded again. You will have to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Finally came around to AfD this page two years later; it was promptly deleted. — JFG talk 19:22, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of ORY for deletion
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Template:Mars‎
Hello. I reverted your edit at Template:Mars‎ and forgot to include an edit summary. The reason is that Mars Orbiter directs to a disambiguation page. Thank you. BatteryIncluded (talk) 17:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. I was a bit uneasy with this edit myself. There should be a generic article about Mars orbiters, couldn't find one so linked there. Hopefully somebody finds time to write such a page. — JFG talk 18:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. There are >1000 named craters on Mars and >300 of them have pages in en-wiki... Does the template really need them all? Stas (talk) 00:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)