User talk:Jenprange

February 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. tedder (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

March 2009
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by some search engines, including Google. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. tedder (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tedder, please bear with me. How is a relevant interview inappropriate? Should I change the wording? I truly am looking for help, because I think this interview is valuable, as I have thought others that I have added are, but have lost heart and given up trying to add. Please advise, let me know how I can do this correctly, because I think it is important. Thanks, Jenprange — Preceding unsigned comment added by jenprange (talk • contribs)


 * Hi jenprange- the issue is that according to your contributions, the only thing you do is add links to The Warren Report. That's what makes it spam- it makes it pretty clear that you are likely involved with that website. The content may or may not be relevant for Wikipedia, but the main issue is that Wikipedia is not a promotional service. Please stop adding them. tedder (talk) 00:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tedder, okay, I get it now. The unfortunate truth is that I am not affiliated with the website in any way other than I went to a school where Warren Etheredge was an instructor who really affected me, this is really the only podcast I listen to, and I love it--so I'm adding it to Wikipedia so others can hear the podcast. What can I do? There are other links just like this on these people's pages--these are great interviews? How can I share them? This is why I of course put these under external links, because that seems like a place where external links are okay...I don't know how to prove that I'm not getting paid for this? Is it hopeless? I do see your point. Thanks, Jenni, and this time I'll put my tildes...Jenprange (talk) 00:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * good job on the tildes :-) I understand about not being affiliated, and it's very good to post your involvement (whether it is direct or indirect). I believe you, if that matters!


 * Back to the topic, here's the thing: the links you are adding can be construed as relevant, or they can be construed as being somewhat spammish- they promote The Warren Report as much as the subject topic. However, they COULD be relevant. So a couple of suggestions:


 * How is the content relevant? Does the interviewee give information that could be used in an article? If so, it is a primary source and can be used to fill out an article to a small extent. In that case, the podcast becomes a reference.
 * As you have been entering the links, as external links, can actually be helpful according to WP:EL. After all, it's an interview with the subject of the article, and that is directly covered (as long as there aren't too many external links in the article already). However, it shouldn't be the ONLY thing you are doing on Wikipedia or it'll be likely construed as spam.


 * For instance, I listen to a series of podcasts and radio shows. I often contribute based on interviews that are in it- yesterday I created Black Rage (book) based on a podcast. However, you'll note that there are no hints in that article referring to the podcast. Why? It isn't an entirely notable source. Another example is Teresa Strasser. While she's probably said more on radio than in interviews, look at how many of her references are to the radio show. There's only two.


 * So it depends on the article, but mostly comes back to you. If you were adding those links but contributing to Wikipedia in other ways, it probably wouldn't be a big issue. External links are probably one of the most sensitive things on Wikipedia- because it has been formed around a notion of reliable sources and avoiding conflict of interest through, uh, motivated users.


 * Wow, there's an essay for you! I hope it inspires you to continue editing on Wikipedia. I'm more than happy to help you with your edits. Ultimately it boils down to this: add the links, but do more here and you'll be fine. tedder (talk) 01:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Tedder, this is GREAT information...I'm not very technical (which is why I listen to only one podcast...I'm new to that too) -- but I think I can work my way through what you have given me. Thanks so much--and thanks for the benefit of the doubt.  I'll take your advice and give it another try.  JenprangeJenprange (talk) 07:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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