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Hi, you're invited to the Canberra meetup which will take place at King O'Malley's Irish Pub in Civic on 17 February 2016. Bidgee (talk) 01:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Adam Voges and Batting Averages
You reverted my edit stating that "claims need appropriate supporting references, not hyperbole from one journalist". However, you aren't clear on what constitutes "an appropriate supporting reference". (Ironically, you accuse me of subjectivity, while yourself being subjective.) I can't see anything wrong about my edit. Don Bradman's average is, in fact, iconic and deserves mention in the lead. Adam Voges has historically been the only batsman to come close to this, and has been compared by numerous people (not just one journalist, I can give more references) to Bradman. So, while his average remains high, I think both names deserve mention in the lead. Please explain objectively why you feel otherwise. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 00:08, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Appropriate supporting references would be articles that make serious claims that Voges has rivalled "Bradman's status in the game's elite". I'll save you the time, you won't find one which goes beyond a mention of statistics. Voges is not the only batsman to have a Bradmanesque start to their career. I'd suggest reading about Jimmy Adams, who averaged 87 after 12 Tests. Barely averaged 40 in the end. More recently Mike Hussey averaged 84 after 20 Tests. If you think Voges averaging 95 is significantly better than both of those, consider that he is only one low score away from averaging in the 80s as well. The journalists know this, which is why it is you and not them making these claims. Jevansen (talk) 04:16, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Glitch
Ach, I'll draw that diff to Ohconfucius's attention. Tony  (talk)  11:47, 27 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Tony. Jevansen (talk) 12:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Raymonde Veber Jones
Thanks for adding the ref for Raymonde Veber Jones, there have been tons of times where I've seen people add living people without a ref for things like that (of course the most amusing was when I saw one being added to a guy born in 1850, they must of misread that as 1950 is my only guess!) Wgolf (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Haha no problem, thanks for the prompt. Jevansen (talk) 02:29, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * I'd just replace it with an image from Trove rather try and fight the battle that it's PD. The first page of results has a couple of images that might be OK. Jenks24 (talk) 07:56, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah mate I think you're right, should be plenty of options available on trove given his profile. I was struggling to find another source for it anyway now that FPF is defunct. Jevansen (talk) 09:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Uploaded File:CliffRankin.png. Jevansen (talk) 09:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Jev
Certainly appreciate your feedback on the Kicks after the siren in Australian rules football article, I left a bit of food for thought on the Talk page. I had a little chuckle to myself when the Hun / Fox Footy ran an article today that talked of how "only 38 people have done it since 1913" – in the space of two hours I found four more, surely you'd just say "at least"! But I guess that is the state of journalism (or lack thereof) these days...

It's definitely been a while since I've edited heavily on WP, even longer since I've seen the names of guys like you, Pope, Sge etc... do any of those guys still edit? I can vividly recall the enjoyable WP:AFL Quiz circa 2009. Hope all is well. Gibbsyspin 10:02, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Gibbsy, good to hear from you. Ah yes, forgot about that quiz, the cricket members had one as well which met the same fate. Both were good fun. You'll find that User:The-Pope is very much still active, User:Roisterer is still around too. Incidentally I just went back and checked if anyone has recently edited the AFL quiz and noticed that the Pope finally provided us with an answer to the final question, some seven years after it was asked in 2009 ... that's a long time to leave us hanging. Jevansen (talk) 10:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome back Mr Spin. I was waiting to answer the Quiz question after I created Fremantle Football Club premiership players. In regards to the Kicks ATS article, referencing to You Tube is probably my bigger issue, rather than other leagues. Will expand my comment there. The-Pope (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Canberra meetup invitation (August 2016)
I'll be in Canberra from the 29-30 August, there is a planned meet-up at King O'Malley's (though I'm open to suggestions) from 6pm on the 29 August. Sorry for the short noticed, only had the trip confirmed this afternoon. Bidgee (talk) 11:16, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Category changes
I was looking at the history for Sarah Robles and noticed that you removed Category:American weightlifters using HotCat). I'm guessing you are involved in some sort of cleanup but neither Category:American weightlifters nor your talk page explains the nature of the project. Sarah Robles is a weightlifter from the United States. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 07:56, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Marc. Thank you for your question. I am currently splitting these categories by gender. In this case I removed the category as it is a parent category of Category:American women weightlifters, which already existed on Sarah's page. Jevansen (talk) 09:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will you be merging Category:American female weightlifters‎ and Category:American women weightlifters‎? --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 20:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I plan to yes, as well as Category:Turkish women's weightlifters to Category:Turkish female weightlifters. Thanks Marc. Jevansen (talk) 22:15, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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Alex Stenzel
A world ranking is notable in itself and three world rankings and having additional mastered 10 other diverse athletic disciplines certainly qualifies for a great multi athlete.Vonlandsberg (talk) 03:19, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Not notable per Notability (sports). Junior tennis players are presumed notable if they have "been in the top 3 of the junior ITF world rankings", cyclists need to have competed in a UCI, Grand Tour or Olympic race and merely competing in the Ironman World Championship is not enough, a "top ten finish" is required for a presumption of notability. If any of these are met, they need to be supported by a independent reliable source (not Alex Stenzel.com). Jevansen (talk) 03:33, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Stenzel made it to the semifinals at the Port Washington Rolex Cup, in Port Washington New York, in 1981 which was then considered the unofficial indoor world championships in the under 18 division. The only sources are news paper cut outs at Stenzel official website. Vonlandsberg (talk) 03:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Does that meet any of the requirements listed at WP:NTENNIS? Jevansen (talk) 04:01, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

No, but still a notable multi-athlete. How about creating a new page called poly athlete that doesn't have such a high requirements for the primary sport but takes in consideration a high level of sophistication in many athletic disciplines. Vonlandsberg (talk) 04:39, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * We could ... but he wouldn't be good enough for that either. Jevansen (talk) 04:42, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Do you know of any other athletes who have been as good as he has in as many and such diverse variety of sports?Vonlandsberg (talk) 05:31, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Is he good? I can't find any sources which discuss his supposed all-round sporting abilities. Maybe he just has a lot of time of his hands? I guess there are only so many vegetables you can make a sandwich out of. Jevansen (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Here is link to his official athlete site it lists his 3 world rankings and also shows him performing 12 other sports at an expert level. Vonlandsberg (talk) 09:31, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * If he is such a multitalented sportsman, why is there no coverage of his sporting accomplishments anywhere other than his own website? I have looked at the link you provided, which is basically just images of Alex in the outdoors. The only thing I learned from it is that he doesn't like wearing shirts. Jevansen (talk) 10:21, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, it looks like that he likes to show off his abs. And I agree he should have gotten some coverage. But there is no other sources then pictures and videos except for the three world rankings which are documented.Vonlandsberg (talk) 22:15, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Design Patent
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 * Do you have reliable sources which demonstrate significant coverage of the cucumber sandwich as an unusual example of a patent? Jevansen (talk) 03:38, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

** Below reference list edited by Jevansen for formatting purposes (citations aren't used on talk pages) **


 * Just blogs that are talking about it because it's so unusual but a whole bunch of them.

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 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vonlandsberg/Gorilla_Sandwich&action=edit§ion=4
 * http://www.improbable.com/2007/02/19/cucumber-sandwich
 * https://www.lotempiolaw.com/uploads/file/D527165_Cucumber_sandwich.pdf
 * https://www.good.is/articles/can-you-patent-a-sandwich
 * http://www.patentlysilly.com/patent.php?patID=D527165
 * https://www.amazon.com/Patently-Silly-Collapsible-Incinerating-Inventions/dp/B0058M9BDM
 * http://alex-stenzel.com/2006-gorilla-sandwich-patent-silly/


 * So not just some unreliable sources but a whole bunch of them. Jevansen (talk) 04:15, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Correct Vonlandsberg (talk) 04:39, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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Subhash Verma
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 * Thanks for the link. I have modified his infobox, please check these changes if you get a chance. I ignored the "Commonwealth Games" bronze medal under the year 1991 as no games were held that year. That was presumably the Commonwealth Championships, which appears under 1991 in the second link. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 09:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm Iranwatch. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Greg Lemin, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Iranwatch (talk) 04:10, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ahh ok. So can you review it then? Jevansen (talk) 04:16, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned cricketers
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Re my deorphaning of cricketers. Thanks. I should have known better! I will rework what I had done accordingly. Cheers. Eno Lirpa (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I think all tidied up now. Eno Lirpa (talk) 14:47, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

180.234.160.84
Thanks for your help with this user. As you can see from my sandbox, he keeps popping up, with the same editing pattern. I've reported them, so hopefully will be blocked shortly.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 10:03, 26 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The IPs have only been catching my attention recently due to edits to some of the player articles I have watchlisted .. looking over the contributions of the IPs in your sandbox it's evident they're even more active than I thought. Thanks for taking the time to compile that list, I'll reference it in future AIV reports, should make things easier. Jevansen (talk) 10:11, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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