User talk:Jevansen/Archive 4

VB Series
Excellent!  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 11:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy. Will be good if we can get the rest of the tri-series articles created sometime, even if it's only as stubs. A bit surprised so many don't have articles already. Jevansen (talk) 11:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep it would be good. Will Category:Australian Tri-Series get deleted? Hope to help expanding bits and peices. Really enjoyed that series - and I remember my dislike for Kallis after the final group match.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 11:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK
With a bit of work do you want to nom for DYK. We could say something about Waugh's sacking?  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 22:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * ... that former Australian cricket team captain Steve Waugh was sacked from the One Day International captaincy after his team failed to qualify for the 2001–02 VB Series finals?  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 22:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

You'd be better with images than me so I'll leave that to you.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 01:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I think we have to nom by today so does it need more expanding?  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   21:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh man, sorry, forgot about some more expansions, thanks. Yes, hope to have at least a brief summary of each game by the end on summer. I've got the summaries on 03 wisden so that makes it a bit easier - then we can ref at the end. Could make a fairly interesting article!  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Did you miss it?
Not sure if you read the WP:Aussie noticeboard, but Brian Cook's article was moved out of the main article space to the Article Incubator/Brian Cook (football administrator) section, that I at least, didn't even knew existed. The aim I think is to use it as an "offwiki" temporary central storage as opposed to userfication. I thought you had every AFL/Cricket article on your watchlist! Shouldn't be too hard to get it back, (actually, I just did it - stuff their "evaluation" phase!) but I think we need to ensure it doesn't happen too much more - as you well know, we have a lot of sportsman articles which fall in the unreferenced BLP category. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 16:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Jevansen! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 7 of the articles that you created  are  Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to these articles, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 1) Anwar Ali -
 * 2) Ashar Zaidi -
 * 3) Matthew Kennedy -
 * 4) Matt Clape -
 * 5) Gary Hardeman -
 * 6) Tony Cordle -
 * 7) Ken Beck -

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 17:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Frankie & Johnny
I was just wondering if the guy who discredited Hughie Cannon for being the composer of this song is accurate. His editing followed after your last editing to this article. Pjt48 (talk) 05:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Paul Vander Haar
All the info that I posted about Vanda is correct, the name is acctually spelt Vander Haar not Van Der Haar! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.114.12 (talk) 08:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I've seen his name more commonly written as Van Der Haar but the official AFL website lists it as Vander Haar so I've moved the page to that name. Wikipedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view so can you please stop adding comments like 'He was one of the truly great high marks" and was definitely "A legend of the game". If they're quotes from particular icons of the game or respected journalists then they can be added with a citation. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 09:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Basanta Regmi
Hi. You un-prodded my Prod of this chap, but according to this, the Namibia-Nepal match was ruled not first-class by ICC, so I think he's very dubious. What think you? Kind regards. Johnlp (talk) 07:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Links to Anno Domini
I'm pretty sure "BC > Anno Domini" is not right. :-) Ploversegg (talk) 16:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)ploversegg


 * I appear to have done the same as User:Ploversegg... Sorry about that, I mistakenly assumed that edit to 0 (year) changing the BC link was made by someone being an idiot. - m - i - k - e - y - Talk / C 22:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. I should have made a less confusing edit summary. Jevansen (talk) 23:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

'Albums considered the greatest ever' nominated for deletion
I saw you made an edit on the article Albums considered the greatest ever so I thought it'd interest you that it's being nominated for deletion. It'd be great if you'd give your two cent here since I'm the only one so far who wants the article to stay. The only other people involved in the discussion are deletion-happy administrators, which I think is a bit unfair. So I'd really appreciate it if you gave some insight. Thank you. Best, Geeky Randy (talk) 20:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

AIV report of IP:24.184.200.190
WP policies are such that we should not remove comments posted in good faith by a WP editor - the right procedure is to approach that editor asking them to reconsider. IP:24.184.200.190 had all rights to revert you there. It is unclear whether user:Chljon95 was improving or vandalizing - depends much on whether the subject of the article did or did not die. As to IP:24.184.200.190, they reverted some vandalism, with uncivil summaries; this deserves a note, but not a block. Materialscientist (talk) 00:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Note of Appreciation
I noticed you cleaned up some vandalism on the page Matthew Lyons. I created that page and would like to thank you for your time. People like you who do the right thing when you think no one is looking give me hope. Thanks again. FinalFrontier1776 (talk) 04:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks mate. Jevansen (talk) 09:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:AIV
Hi. Thanks for your report earlier. I kept an eye on 08jojones and have just indef blocked them for repeating vandalism. Apologies for the delay in actioning this: I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. TFOWR 13:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate. Jevansen (talk) 13:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.

When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.

If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Courcelles (talk) 04:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD for List of Jews in Sports
I noticed that, though you are one of the major contributors to the list, the nom in the following deletion effort failed to notify you of the deletion discussion. Don't feel singled out -- he seems not to have provided the courtesy to anyone. So I'm picking up the slack for him. Discussion is ongoing here.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:09, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

List of Springboks
Hi

I think the edits you refer to are being made by someone that I approached for help with that page earlier. When I created the list I realised the magnitude of the job, but came accross someone that maintains his own website with a complete list of every Springbok ever.(http://www.genslin.us/bokke/sarugby.html) I think he updates the list from his database, after every springbok game. Unfortunately the disambiguation edits made since his previous update get lost then. Maybe you can discuss a more productive strategy with him at sarugbyfan@hotmail.com, since I am not so involved on wikipedia anymore. All the best! Sahmejil (talk) 08:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe we can find a way of preserving the disambiguation edits (since they really are needed), with the "automatic" updates of the caps and points scored etc...? Since those updates will only be on recent caps after a game was played, we could perhaps merge the older, "corrected" half of it with the newer "updated" half? If you contact the guy doing the updates - could you let me know what the outcome is? Cheers! Sahmejil (talk) 09:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Biased view
You have threaten to report me and you don't even warm Eathb. I am very frastrated with this user and you warn me when I have done hours of work on wikipedia and have tried to keep Port Adelaide Football Club from being vandalised by Eathb. Why haven't you warned him? is this a biased view? He called me a retard and you warn me not him. GuineaPigWarrior 21:30 12 July, 2010.

121.215.41.16
Hello, The person currently using the IP 121.215.41.16 (talk) is also being unconstructive and causing vandalism to The Critic Wikiquote page. This person has been doing this since May 2010. While this person has also used different IP’s, it is no doubt the same person (see history here). If you are able to investigate this, please do so. (Note: some IP's like 205.189.194.208, 72.49.54.115 and 71.162.63.116 are not this person). Thanks! --170.170.59.138 (talk) 00:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, sorry for taking a while to respond. This character has been quite a serious pest around here for quite a while. Unfortunately as he always uses different IP addresses we can only revert the rubbish he inserts in articles as blocking isn't effective. I've reverted the Wikiquote article back to the version as it appeared on May 4. Wikiquote doesn't seem to have much policy on fighting vandalism or protecting pages so the best I can do is keep an eye on the article and revert any rubbish when I see it. Jevansen (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello again,
 * First of all, thank you very much for your response. It looks like I'm not the only one who has noticed this person's behaviour. Unfortunately, he's back again on The Critic Wikiquote page, this time under 121.215.156.87 (talk). While I admit that some of the edits may be in good faith, they are really unconstructive. Plus, just in case I did not mention it before, he seems to purposely change a lot of wording and punctuation from other quotes. Please continue to monitor The Critic Wikiquote page. I also suggest reverting it back to the June 1 2010 version.
 * Thank you once again. I look forward to your reply. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 01:57, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * One last thing,
 * I have just made some more updates on The Critic Wikiquote page. They were made on July 25 2010 at 03:23. Should you have to revert again, please use this for the time being.
 * Thank you very much for your help. Cheers! 170.170.59.138 (talk) 03:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok no problem. I'm amazed how active that page has been, think there would be about 300 edits for July alone! Jevansen (talk) 03:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Retirement
As of 18 August, 2010, I will leave forever. It seems I am being bullied on here. After all the work I have done with no credit at all. I will not put up with this no longer. No help from admins, just wanting to block me, why don't you "help" me instead of "picking" on me? I made my mide up basically after I was blocked last time, I almost left but didn't and came back for week and now I am being treated like a person who came out of jail. I'm only aloud to make an edit to page a day, if I am being treated that way it is pointless to return. After 1 year, 5 months, 27 days, "goodbye". Please leave a goodbye message on discussions page if you please. GuineaPigWarrior Forever!

Tim Lane (journalist)
I had to restore the Tim Lane AfD as it had not been listed for discussion. This explains the low participation rate. Tassedethe (talk) 08:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Restraint
Can you please leave alone. I don't want you to ever edit war with or discuss with me ever again. You are abusive and non civil as an admin has told you and afterwriter. Just find other articles and do not look up my history and being noisey. GuineaPigWarrior (talk) 01:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * No. Sincerely Jevansen (talk) 23:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Regarding IP Vandal
Hello Jevansen! We can still report abuse to an ISP, the requirement applies to the abusive user not a single IP address, so if you reason to believe there are at least 5 blocks for a single user, then please feel free to file at WP:ABUSE. Cheers! Thorncrag   05:22, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks. I'll file a report. Jevansen (talk) 05:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * :-)   Thorncrag    05:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

User:Perthmonsit
Thanks for alerting me to this. He's a long-term sockpuppeteer; yesterday he was User:Sterlingmerling; last week he was User:Stinkypinky69. He gets blocked pretty regularly. My guess is that he's User:Sorrywrongnumber, who's got a long term track record of edits like these, but he could also be a Howard Stern fan I've ticked off. Whoever he is, though, he's persistent (if inept). Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 03:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Hypocrisy
You undid my comment, I had to redo so please, stop being a hypocrite and I don't want to see you again, I believe you may have a fetish for me if I see you all the time trying to catch me out. I shouldn't have undid it you could've been a more civil about like another user explained it to me and I agreed with the user. So just leave me alone. GW
 * lol. Jevansen (talk) 22:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha. GW

BrianBeahr yet again
Howdy. It seems obvious to me that our friend Brian is at it yet again with another sockpuppet account with the user name of User:Pen00001. Same kind of editing obsessions and style problems as before. You can check out his recent history from his edits at St Kilda Football Club. Cheers, Afterwriting (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Your Abuse Response Filing
Greetings! Thank you for filing an Abuse Report for abusive behavior originating from 121.221.222.124. Note: The case is on hold Sorry for taking so long to get to it, but I would be happy to investigate asap if I can get the requested info from the discussion section. Thanks again! -- DQ  (t)  (e)  19:29, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Nick Riewoldt
Why did you remove the comment to Nick Riewoldt page regarding the scandle? This is newsworthy and while the text needs to be cleaned up, you cannot remove negative views against someone because you don't like it. 118.209.65.244 (talk) 11:58, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You mean this edit? I was just following the policy we have for Biographies of living persons which states that "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion"


 * Calling it a "gay situation" is certainly contentious, if not slanderous. Had the IP provided a reference and written an unbiased account of the scandal then I would not have removed it. Unfortunately because of such edits the page has been semi-protected but if you would like to write up a section on the scandal (with a reference) and publish it on the talk page, I'd be happy to insert into the article for you. Jevansen (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Collingwood Players
Very comprehensive, but gee they have a lot of common names! The-Pope (talk) 12:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Bloody early 20th century ... if only they called their kids names like Steele Sidebottom we'd be fine! Don't worry, I'll get to it. Jevansen (talk) 12:55, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Nice work. From my experience, those lists are a nightmare :) Jenks24 (talk) 13:11, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Chess player, footballer, or both?
Hi there, I was wondering if you could explain to me what's going on with Charles G. M. Watson? When you created the article you wrote it as if the chess player and Melbourne footballer were the same person, but then when a user claiming to be a family member removed all the stuff about the football career saying that he never played football, you just seemed to go along with it. So is Charles G. M. Watson the Bert Watson who played for the dees or are they two seperate people? Jenks24 (talk) 12:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The Encyclopedia Of AFL Footballers said they were the same person but it wouldn't be the first time they have made an error, so unless I can locate another reference which ties the "two" together I'm not confident enough to revert the article back to my version. As a Demons fan, I don't suppose you have an literature which mentions him? Jevansen (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately my Demons literature is fairly limited. However, I did find that he was named "H. Watson" which also leads me to believe they are two seperate people and that The Encyclopedia Of AFL Footballers is wrong. Also did a google search and search through trove nla and couldn't find anything to link them, so unfortunately a new article will be needed someday :( Jenks24 (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Cats questions
Hey there, I see you've started with changing to the subcats of Category:Australian players of Australian rules football (good work, both for the ideas and the effort). Anyway, two questions: 1) For someone like David Neitz who was born in Tasmania but played for the Vics in State of Origin, which cat should he go in? and 2) Is there a reason that Category:Australian rules footballers from the Northern Territory is a redlink? Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 06:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Sock?
What do think of this? I think it's yet another sock of User:BrianBeahr, but thought you may know better than I. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 16:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah mate it's him, no doubt. He hasn't quite mastered the art of socking. Tends to always give himself away after his first three edits. Uploaded a non-free image as well. Sigh...
 * Jevansen (talk) 07:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Clanger
With regard to Clanger, I suggest 3 possibilities: Then there would be no problem linking from the disambiguation page. Best wishes,  Dr Greg   talk  20:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * copy the information from the earlier version to Australian rules football
 * copy the information from the earlier version to Ted Hopkins
 * copy the information from the earlier version to a new article Clanger (Australian rules football)
 * It would have been nice for you to do this, but not COPYING (which is bad) but reverting and moving (which maintains article history and attribution). Read the article history properly before you start lecturing on MOS.The-Pope (talk) 23:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Newland
You wouldn't have any leads on the other two brothers, would you? Pdfpdf (talk) 05:22, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm impressed! Many thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 03:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Footballers & Cricketers
Hi Jevansen,

If it's a list of cricket and football players I don't see any justification for relegating one player to footnote/'see also' status just because they happen to be female.

Obviously female footballers are held to the same lofty "notability" standards on wikipedia, so I'm not sure they should be subject to overt discrimination on player lists etc.

Perhaps you could clarify?

Cheers, Clavdia chauchat (talk) 00:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Infobox
Yeah, thanks for asking because the exact same thing has happened to me. I noticed sometime today (it's not just on Grgic's article, but all articles with template:infobox afl player NEW), but after checking the infobox's history I also assumed it was something to do with my browser. Seeing as you have the exact same problem I guess it must mean that it's not my computer/browser, but something to do with the site. Not really sure who we should ask about this though.... Jenks24 (talk) 14:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know about you, but I'm afraid this sort of intricate template stuff flies right over my head. Yeah I saw that the guys who developed the templates we have aren't really active anymore, so I'm not really sure who we could ask to fix it either. Perhaps we could ask at WP:VPT (but I'm not really sure if that is a place to do requests)? Or even at WT:AFL or WP:AWNB to see if anyone there is any good with templates? Jenks24 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * While The-Pope seems to think he has fixed the problem. I'll admit he is a lot better with templates than me, but it still seems to be the same for me. How about for you? Jenks24 (talk) 15:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And as usual, he's right and I'm wrong (just had to purge my cache) :) It works for me now. Jenks24 (talk) 15:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Wendy Harmer
Wendy is in the AFL Articles list because the Lions are thinking of using her at full-forward now that they've lost Fev! Seriously, she and others like Barry Humphries are there because they won the Anti-Football League award, and that cat is a subcat in the Aussie Rules cat tree. I've noticed it before, but haven't been bothered enough to do anything about it. Cheers The-Pope (talk) 09:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Hierarchical categories
Regarding Just because he played for South Australia doesn't mean he has to be Australian, so nationality category is still useful

I assumed that Category:South Australia cricketers would be a sub-category of Category:Australian cricketers, and hence you wouldn't put him in both. I have to admit surprise that they are unconnected! Given that they are unconnected, then yes, I agree, he should be in both.

Have you any idea why they are unconnected? Pdfpdf (talk) 08:29, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Viv Richards, Kieron Pollard and Umar Gul's cats might give you a clue!. There is a subtle difference between "Fooian cricketers" and "Foo cricketers".  If you are an Australian who plays cricket you should be in Category:Australian cricketers. (slightly offtopic - should this be dispersed into states?) If you play for an Australian team then you'll be in the Category:South Australia cricketers (note it is South Australia, not Australian).  We had the same issue, to a much lesser extent, in the AFL - just because you play football for a WA club doesn't make you West Australian, or even Australian!  It can be a problem in that if you ever do a recursive people cat scan (ie everyone under the tree Category:Australian people), you can either miss out a lot (if you don't have a Fooian cricketers cat, that is based on nationality, not team) or include a lot of incorrect people (if you do put the team based cats under the Australian cricketers umbrella). Cats are fun!The-Pope (talk) 08:50, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Quietly put the stick down and back away and leave them to it. Maybe they won't notice I was here. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)