User talk:JezGrove

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A kitten for you!
Thanks for doing the Let Toys Be Toys page - been meaning to get around to that for ages! Tricia (one of LTBT)

Electricia (talk) 12:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC) 

DYK for Fritchley Tunnel
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:02, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Nothophantes horridus
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DYK for Nothophantes horridus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

An oven-ready kitten Char siu barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, Martin! My very first barnstar (sigh) - but unlike a fussy cat confronted with an unfamiliar brand of tuna-in-jelly I'm not going to turn my nose up at it! Indeed, at this late stage of 2015, it can only be a compliment so it will encourage me to re-double my efforts towards the reinstatement of Claws Four. (I know, I should quit when I'm ahead...) JezGrove (talk) 23:41, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sidney and Beatrice would be proud of you, my son.... *sob". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:51, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * By a truly bizarre coincidence involving my love life, my wife is the Centre Manager for the LSE's CATS centre. You really couldn't make it up! JezGrove (talk) 00:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Jez, you lucky guy. She looks lovely! And so lucky to be involved in Economics. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Martin - she is, though I'm not sure what I did to deserve her! You'll have to tell me who the worthy winner of the Worse (sic?!) Pun of 2015 Barnstar is, as I don't think Lyn will believe me if I tell her there's a more excruciating punster out there without showing her the evidence! Her colleagues at CATS are more involved with chaos than economics - I dare say if their expertise rubs off on her it will come in handy at home... JezGrove (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I would beg to direct my Right Honourable colleague, the Member for Chaos Central, to this diff. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I would doff my hat to my Right Honourable colleague’s thieving scouser friend – but collapsible top hats haven’t been kept in the Chamber since 1998, and I shun the use of unparliamentary language. (But seriously, a very deserving winner!) JezGrove (talk) 18:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's lovely that your Doris has got her little job with the CATS. Although, as we both know, "a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back." Martinevans123 (talk) 18:43, 8 December 2015 (UTC) ... although how she's meant to do the beans on toast and the washing up while on her back, I really don't know.
 * Yes, the Beeb needs to spell out more clearly exactly what type of personality it is that the award is for! BTW, even though CATS is only supposed to take up half of Lyn’s working hours, she can’t escape felines entirely: she was wearing her Research Ethics hat when she blocked my latest scientific experiment. But I strongly suspect that the friend who suggested it to me won’t take any notice of such niceties when he spends Christmas with us (and the unsuspecting cat) in a couple of weeks! JezGrove (talk) 19:11, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Is that like a computer boffin but with less probing?? (ooh, err, missus). I think I must know your cat-scaring friend - a big friend of the Bee Gees, I believe. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, but sadly his US tour has just been cancelled...! Still, he knows better than us what a Wild World it is, I suppose. JezGrove (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

 * Thanks very much, 7&amp;6=thirteen - I'm not sure what I've done to deserve the delicious torte though...! JezGrove (talk) 13:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Gould (violinist)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen
 Martinevans123Santas Grotto ... sends you warmest wishes for a: "Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"



May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace! ... And "Mele Kalikimaka" (Hawaiian Merry Christmas)!!


 * Thanks Martin! Have a very merry Christmas yourself – regardless of whether you’ve been naughty or nice... Nos da! JezGrove (talk) 23:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hoorah! Anyone for some jelly and melted ice cream? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I don't have a sweet tooth and the  elves here are busy... (They've not been paying enough attention to the naughty list either, apparently...) JezGrove (talk) 23:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I’ve always associated eggs with another Christian celebration…. Back to the (all too!) imminent one, God only knows how the rest of you are going to get any presents – this lot are busy just bringing ours! But then we have been on our best behaviour! JezGrove (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah yeah, those Spanish Santas are always "dead busy" this time of year. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Lech Wałęsa
Thank you very much for your wonderful copy-editing work on this article. Daniel (talk) 20:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thanks, Daniel! JezGrove (talk) 21:06, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Happy Easter, Jezza.

 * Thanks Martin! Hope your Eater is better than this one. JezGrove (talk) 10:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, apparently it's nose-to-tail with Bank Holiday traffic. Did someone mention Tom Thumb? I didn't know a 1970s small cigar could be so much fun. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:13, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Trust you are looking forward today to that annual sporting tradition.Martinevans123 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Cinq Dollars de Spock?
That Leonard Nimoy was really on the money, wasn't he. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Martin! What an enterprising use of funny money! JezGrove (talk) 22:59, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK
— Maile (talk) 14:12, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Oi! Jezza, me ol' china ...
 Martinevans123 (Santa's Drop-in Centre) ... sends you ...   ... warmest seasonal wishes for ... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and understanding... and wishing that you may find your true star...


 * Thanks, Martin - Merry Christmas, Baby! Best, JezGrove (talk) 22:26, 22 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, nice. And the original, from his 2001 ... A Christmas Celebration of Hope: Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Helen Bailey
Can you keep an eye on how the trial goes? I'll be away for a week or so. Cheers, Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Shall do! Best wishes JezGrove (talk) 15:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Not planning another holiday cleaning septic tanks in Royston, I hope, Guy. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * A sleepy little town - and now we know why (allegedly....) JezGrove (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, Royston is getting a bit too exciting these days. JezGrove (talk) 11:17, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Astonishing (alas, not in a good way)
I wonder if you have seen this? That's just incredible. I must admit I'm fresh out of weak puns and tangential links. A bit disgusted actually. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:41, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, I thanked him for his edit and am about to reply on his talk page – the Mail appears to be intent on establishing its gutter press credentials, and if Dacre authorised the doorstepping then he's a 'double you-know-what', as well as a hypocritical slipper farmer! JezGrove (talk) 22:59, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you think any Admin action is needed. Perhaps one of the RfC closing admins? There's a current thread open at User talk:Jimbo Wales about the whole thing, but Mr Wales himself has not made any comment, so far. It's obvious that "the press" have just singled Hillbilly out as a scapegoat as he's the one who dared to open the RfC and have his name at the top. Seems just a trifle unfair. People might start to think their identities were not safe. Maybe the Mums of all the others who !voted will getting a knock on the door? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:07, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * With my own humble edit count, I've no idea about how the Admin stuff on WP works. Exposure, via the 'responsible' media, of the Mail's intimidating tactics would be the way I'd go - together with any official complaint likely to have an effect. If Jimbo and the Foundation can put that in train, then so much the better! JezGrove (talk) 23:24, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * As an afterthought, I'd also try to get the police to move the doorsteppers on - from my own experience (don't ask!) the law on 'obstruction' seems to prevent anyone from staying on a public footpath once they have been asked to 'move on' by a member of the police, and no argument that you are standing in a public place appears to prevail! JezGrove (talk) 23:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth I've now emailed the Guardian journalist who reported on WP's decision about the Mail's reliability JezGrove (talk) 00:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Recycled Orchestra of Cateura
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:03, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh no!!
First Eric... and now Mark. Where will it all end for the man down the pub?? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Pasg Hapus

 * Jez... you will forever be... "In the wardrobe of my soul, In the section labeled shirts". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Private Eye
Hi, just to let you know that your "remove puffery" edit at Murdoch MacLennan back in June is mentioned on page 7 of the latest issue of Private Eye (though it doesn't say your user name). JezGrove (talk) 11:27, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ha, finally made it into the Eye after all these years, and not Pseuds' Corner either, by the sounds of it! Thanks for letting me know. :) Barnabypage (talk) 18:58, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dick Dale
Stephen 23:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Fine Wine
Not sure if you caught it, but Paul's offering in last night's Gyles Brandreth Show was worth the license fee on it's own, I thought. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Martin, I did - excellent! And the continued sharpness of Nicholas Parsons is always very impressive. JezGrove (talk) 20:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Even speaking as one who occasionally, in the 70s, endured an entire episode of Sale of the Century, more in disbelief than anything else, thinking it was perhaps a secret spoof of a certain Monty Python sketch, I must admit that Sir Nicolas is a true national treasure. Just a Minute is just timeless, never predictable and seems to just get better and better, in a very gentle way. Instant Sale 123 (talk) 20:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen
 Martinevans123 (Santa's Oven-Ready Brexit Centre) ... sends you ...   ... warmest seasonal wishes for ...Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and a Cuban groove... and wishing that you may find a little traditional fun ...


 * Many thanks Martin - best wishes for a wonderful Christmas! JezGrove (talk) 17:35, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Clovermoss submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I nominate JezGrove for the Editor of the Week Award. JezGrove has made over 10,000 edits, but it is the quality of their contributions that shines through, not just the numerical value itself. More than 4,800 of their edits are over 1,000 bytes, and their contributions to mainspace are absolutely phenomenal. They have created 35 articles, some of my personal favourites of articles they've worked on being Let Toys Be Toys, Women of the Year Lunch and Emma Sophia Galton. JezGrove has also made substantial contributions that improve the quality of pre-xisting articles, including articles like Buglife, Life in Squares, and The Lego Group. What I have chosen reflects just a handful of their vast contributions to the encyclopedia. Their work is amazing, and I believe that they should be recognized through the Editor of the Week Award.

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Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   14:16, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Congrats for this well deserved award JG. Many thanks for your work here at the 'pedia. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:07, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! — Yours, Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 13:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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Conflict of Interest?
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.Deb (talk) 11:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Deb,

Just for the record, I have never been paid or requested to create or edit any page on Wikipedia and none of my edits have been on pages related to myself, my family, or my "friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors". Indeed, just last month I added comments to two related talk pages mentioning a recently published book that I thought might be a useful source for them, and declared my COI. (See [here] and [here].)

I have never personally met or spoken to anyone whose article I have edited with the exceptions of: 1) Former NASA astronaut Kathryn D. Sullivan, who I met for about 90 seconds in March this year after her talk at the Royal Institution, when she signed a book for my space-obsessed daughter and allowed me to take a photo of them both. You can find my edits to the page here. 2) Former Teletubby (!) Nikky Smedley, who I have very occasionally met socially although not for many years. When I first saw the WP article about her (about five years ago), some of the language struck me as a little self-promotional and I flagged this up, together with my COI, to User:Martinevans123. Since then, I have added an external link (to the British Film Institute), replaced a ‘citation needed’ with a reference (one of only three in the entire article), and reverted some unexplained deletions. My edits are here.

I am a subscriber to Jerry Coyne's website Why Evolution is True and frequently comment below the line. These interactions are with other readers of the website and not directly with its author, and generally involve me making stupid jokes or adding links to topics under discussion. Like many regular readers of Coyne’s website, I have emailed him with links to stories about science, cats (!), or current events that may be interest for inclusion in his posts, and have submitted photos for his 'Photos of Readers' feature. The friend who introduced me to the website, Dom, is one of many people thanked in the Acknowledgments section of one of Coyne's books – something I only discovered when I read the book myself, as Dom had never mentioned the fact to me. I don’t know how many times the two of them have met, but Coyne is aware that Dom and I know each other and asked after Dom’s health during the first UK lockdown when he hadn’t heard from him for a while. My edits to Coyne’s article are here.

I recently created the article about Matthew Cobb. Like many of the Wikipedia articles I have created, I went to add a detail to a page only to find it didn’t exist and eventually got around to putting that right. I have never met, spoken to, emailed, or had any other correspondence with him. From Jerry Coyne’s website, I am aware that he and Cobb are friends; my friend Dom has also met Cobb although, again, I have no idea of the details. (Dom has a keen amateur interest in science and attends a lot of lectures and the subsequent book signings – indeed, he was there when I and my daughter met Kathy D. Sullivan!)

I have exchanged emails with the author Linda Grant – on both occasions (two years apart) it was related to the fact that I had gone to her publisher’s website to find information for Wikipedia about her latest book only to find that the website was years out of date. My edits to the article are here.

I hope that has clarified everything. JezGrove (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that's great. I had just wondered why you were adding Matthew Cobb to all the year and date pages. Deb (talk) 18:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Matthew Cobb
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Clarification
I realize this is in response to something from a few years ago, but the Strickland deletion had nothing to do with notability. As the notice on SteplightJohnson's talkpage makes quite explicit: the deletion was because SteplightJohnson had copied-and-pasted the content of Strickland's entry on the Optical Society's official website, verbatim. This was a flagrant breach of our policies on copyright.

The notice further told SJ how to properly contest the deletion, a path SJ chose to not pursue. DS (talk) 20:46, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2563 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Gerda - coming from someone with your illustrious record at WP your kind words are very much appreciated! JezGrove (talk) 20:18, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

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Deaths of Christianne and Robert Shepherd
I had placed a tag for NPOV in2017, and after it was removed by another editor, I have just now restored it with an explanation.You might want to take a look.  DGG ( talk ) 05:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Don't try to shut legitimate discussion down, Newimpartial. The article's talk page is the best place for this discussion. JezGrove (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

LGB Alliance
This edit could only appear to be relevant if editors were to perform a kind of original research (deciding among ourselves what is or isn't transphobic) that we are not supposed to do. We are only allowed to decide what to say about a topic based on sources on that topic (in this case, the Alliance). An invitation to have that other discusson, such as you have twice tried to insert on the article Talk page, is pure WP:FORUM. Newimpartial (talk) 00:03, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, the source you provided for this is Abigail Shrier's substack, and the only other place I've seen it is the Daily Mail - neither of those is a reliable (usable) source. Newimpartial (talk) 19:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Once again, this would be more appropriately discussed at the article's own talk page. For what it's worth, and this isn't a phrase is heard often enough on Wikipedia, but here I am saying it nevertheless: on reflection I believe that you are right in that my talk page post at LGB Alliance wasn't closely enough related to that article.
 * I'm very well aware that (former) WP editor Hillbillyholiday successfully got the Daily Mail listed as an unreliable source. (He emailed me when his mother's house was doorstepped by what he described as then-editor Paul Dacre's "goons" shortly afterwards.) The fact that Abigail Shrier's piece (actually published on Bari Weiss' Substack, as it happens) hasn't been picked up more widely by the liberal press is a shame. Bower is a very important voice in her field, and Shrier and Weiss are legitimate authors too - regardless of whether or not you like their opinions.
 * Anyway, very best wishes, Newimpartial. In future, can we please discuss these issues on the relevant article's talk page. Not least so that other editors can listen and learn. JezGrove (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the "Thanks" you just sent me Newimpartial, but a public and transparent acknowledgment here would have been preferable. JezGrove (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. on reflection I believe that you are right is perhaps the most precious phrase one can ever hear on WP. Newimpartial (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed! JezGrove (talk) 20:42, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Better late than never dept.
And to you too Martin! All the best for the year ahead. JezGrove (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Cheers. Not sure if you will have seen Jools last night, but the incomparable Gregory Porter not only did a rockin' version of "My Babe", but he also did a blissfully sparse version of this one. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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A new section created on Emma Sophia Galton's talk page
After adding a section on doubts about whether she expressed doubt about eugenics, I looked through the history of her page and noticed you had added the claim in dispute. I figured I should let you know. 208.59.185.238 (talk) 03:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've replied on the article's talk page. JezGrove (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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About Your Revert of sourced material
i don't know if i'm blind but can't see what it is cited from And if it is true it does not belong there the section is called Criticism by Eluxe Magazine over sustainability of Westwood clothing it has nothing todo with Eluxe Magazine or Criticism Half-kratos21 (talk) 02:25, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Half-kratos21. You're right, of course. I've reverted my edit now. Happy New Year! JezGrove (talk) 10:31, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
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