User talk:JimMillerJr/Archive 1

Talk Space
Jim, thanks for weighing in on the CU/Bank debate. Your comments were right on, and unlike some, they were civil. Let me know if you need any help on the NCUSIF page. Cheers! Dubc0724 18:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Knights of Columbus
Hi! Thanks for voting for the Knights of Columbus on the Catholic Collaboration page! I know that it is not the CCW article for a few weeks, but right now it is up for FAC so if you could see your way over there early that would be great. Right now the only person holding out on supporting it has a complaint about the prose, so copyediting would be particularly helpful. Thanks again! --Briancua 14:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Joseph Doria.
I can't find anyone in the online database at www.apo.org with the last name of Doria. I also looked through the "D"s. for Omicron Sigma and even searched for those at Omicron Sigma with the first name Joseph.

Having said that, the database while fairly complete for recent times, lacks a large number of individuals once you get farther back. (Frank Reed and Herbert G. Horton for example. :) I do see some individuals from the 1960s at Omicron Sigma though.

Where did you find out he was a brother? Naraht 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * My Father (James Miller '68) was a member at SPC and later an advisor when the chapter was briefly reactivated. He and Joe Doria were members of the chapter at St. Peter's together. My recollection may be wrong about the chapter involved. I don't know the active dates of the 2 chapters at St. Peter's. They may have both have been members of Pi Tau, but I will check with my father when I can. Jim Miller 22:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Didn't see anything for Pi Tau, but *shrug*. Let me know when you get more info, but it's personal curiosity. I'm thinking of rearranging the alumni by area of "fame". He would definitely go into the politics/government area. Naraht 12:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Never know if I should respond on your page or mine. :)

Thanx for the info, I have no problem with leaving him there and if I should include him in the list of Alumni I'm doing bios on in the fall on the mailing lists, I'll note to Judy Mitchell that she should check downstairs in the actual card file... Naraht 01:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion for your user page (and anywhere else you may have a need for it)
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Move Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church
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WikiProject Christianity
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Diocesan Infobox
To the Members of the WikiProject Catholicism

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Thank You
Thank for cleaning up the Whelan page so quickly after I noted its problems. Awesome job. David in DC (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Homeschooling Financial Obligations
Hello Jim Miller, you have recently provided a third opinion on the homeschooling talk page. I requested it to include something about the deletion of the financial obligations section. There also have been follow up questions. Can you look into this or should an extra third opinion be requested? Species8473 (talk) 14:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:2006 New Jersey State Government shutdown
Jim, great work on the article. I've expanded the lead a little and renominated it for GA status. Hopefully the article will pass the nomination this time round. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 14:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC) I'm glad to see the article was finally promoted. It was great collaborating with you on it. Sorry I went AWOL towards the end, real life kicked in again. Looking forward to working on something else with you in the future. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 03:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A reviewer has looked at the article. Some tasks need to be handled for it.  May you help out with the article some more?-- ZeWrestler   Talk 04:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good work the other day with your updates. The reviewer is still presenting us with some comments that I've done some work on, but if you could provide some more help, that would be great. Thanks again-- ZeWrestler   Talk 14:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Didier AFD #3
They keep trying to find reasons to delete it. It is up for a 3rd time. If they would only channel their efforts into improving it. After all, it has been improved and even re-titiled. Presumptive (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

NJ town article assessments
Chris, I saw you changed the assessment for Allentown, New Jersey to C class. I wanted to go through and assess all the articles about towns that were in the backlog of NJ unassessed articles. I rated a large number of articles as B, but I agree with your change, and was hoping to come up with something consistant. Do you think all the automated articles should be C class if they have not been further improved? I also have been rating municipalities as Mid importance, and unicorporated areas as Low.

We could have this discussion on the project talk page, but that has been pretty dead recently. Jim Miller (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Jim, IMO, I think that articles that have not been improved from the automated bot information should either be stub-class (if short for a CDP for example) or start-class if it contains the usual municipality information. Fortunately, WP:NJ members like User:Alansohn have been adding details to nearly all of these articles, so there are few that are in that category.  Many are now either start-class or C-class.  B-Class articles should be well referenced and have broad topical coverage.  Also, at least one photo, IMO.  As for importance, low-importance is for things that are only of ancillary concern to WP:NJ.  Examples include Annie's Road and Evil Clown of Middletown.  IMO, all communities should be mid-importance, except for major cities, which should be high-importance.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice job with Credit Unions
Great that you added the reference about bankers' agenda in regards to CUs on the Credit union page. Nice job with that. -Mmpartee (talk) 12:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Who poem quote - Houston, we have a problem
I was thinking about how best to include the poem reference, so I decided to look at the citation for the poem's inclusion a bit closer. You might want to do so as well, since it appears that anyone can sign up for a TV.com account (I signed up as user BlatantExample in less than three minutes); I almost added a mostly spitballed reference comparing Donna to the Virgin Mary and the Doctor's severed hand being in reality the invisible hand that Adam Smith refers to in The Wealth of Nations. I only didn't because I don't need to vandalize another website to point out its weaknesses here. With respect to U-Mos, we haven't the foggiest as to who added the reference, but I am willing to lay pretty good odds that it wasn't the good folk at BBC - if it had, it would have been a part of the press release, or deserving of a mention in Doctor Who Confidential. As the provenance of the source is debatable, neither it nor the attendant statements can be included. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  21:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Apollo Energy Systems - Electrosport
Finding information about small companies from that era is difficult. The "modern" electronic databases often provide little help. In some cases it is possible to find one or two newspaper or magazine articles. Sometimes obscure sources may provide insight (such as the Caltech interview of Victor Wouk that has some history about other battery companies during that period) or an enthusiast's page, such about the Sonotone Company. I don't have information about Apollo Energy Systems. The Electrosport had a printed sales brochures and Motor Trend did an article about the car, but finding anything about the Electric Fuel Propulsion Corporation itself has not been fruitful so far. Nevertheless, I will contribute to the Apollo Energy article whenever I run across something their origins! — CZmarlin (talk) 05:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

RfC for Tucker Max
hello. since the 3o has been removed due to the RfC (on article Tucker Max), would you mind providing a comment? The reason I ask is because the RfC actually links to the wrong discussion, which could create confusion. i attempted to resolve the bad RfC link problem, but couldn't, and so that is why I created the 3o instead. now that the 3o is gone, i am worried that we will not get enough outside opinions. so would you mind taking a minute and commenting on RfC2? thanks Theserialcomma (talk) 23:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks for the help cleaning up the RfC link (to make it actually work) and the outside comment on the discussion page. my next question is, do you suggest that i create another RfC? the reason i ask is because my original RfC was about whether the anonymous blog should be a source, and after multiple outside editors came and said that it shouldn't be, the source was simply moved to an external link by the same editor who removed my RfC. i felt that if the RfC stayed up, outside editors could have clarified that this link should not be considered encyclopedic. but now, since the RfC is gone, when i try to remove the link from the article, my edit is reverted as 'vandalism.' should i start another RfC, the same as before, except now change the word "source" to "external link" so that i am not accused of vandalism? or any other advice? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 00:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Jersey City External Link - JCTransit.com
I read the terms and while I understand the potential of conflict of interest which you noted, JCTransit.com is a free website which fills a large gap of missing public transportation info for jersey city residents. The site is a free directory which offers unique info and tools to aide residents in navigating jersey city's fragmented transit system. I think that if you were to check out the site you would instantly see the value it offers to jersey city residents and it would validate its inclusion in the jersey city wiki links section. thanks. -Ken Burke —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjburke1 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Rollback
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WikiProject NJ work
I have been working on cleaning up the WP:NJ pages a bit. I added a section to the templates page to include the Eduction by County templates you made. I have left space for all of the counties, but wondered if you had any intention to make the rest of the templates? Also, as the founder of WPNJ, I would like to hear your opinion on the proposed new layout I have made at User:JimMillerJr/Sandbox/WPNJ redesign. Thanks.  Jim Miller  See me 00:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all of your recent New Jersey-Related work, especially on WP:NJ, which has been unfortunately largely dormant as a project. In the midst of all of my other efforts, I will be completing education by county templates. I have reviewed your redesign and it's a major step forward, especially in adding the statistics box as a summary. It really shows that we have a tremendous amount of articles, but need a bit more depth. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and I remind you that my status of founder of WPNJ grants me no special standing on these changes. Keep up the work! Alansohn (talk) 01:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I replied at my talk. – xeno  ( talk ) 23:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm just heading home, should be there in about half hour and then I'll send it out, unless I hear otherwise, cool? – xeno  ( talk ) 23:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry it took me so long to reply. You've done great work again. Sadly, as Alansohn stated, the project has been on the inactive as of late. This work you've done looks great and should help allow us to regain momentum in this project. -- ZeWrestler   Talk 00:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

WPNJ assessments
I saw your assessment of Wyckoff, New Jersey, and "start" seems a tad low. What guidelines are you using as part of these assessments. I'd like to improve these articles and we should have some benchmarks with links to sample Stub/Start/C/B/GA/A/FA articles for the benefit of all those editing and assessing articles. Alansohn (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alan, I agree. A little farther up my talk page is a conversation I had with User:ChrisRuvolo about this recently. Since Wycoff had no history section, no photographs, and only a few expansions beyond the automated information (schools was a good section) I rated it as Start. I have done all the unassessed towns Starting with A and B this way, and was just looking at the end of the last unassessed bot log when I looked at this one. You may also see that MelonBot is going through all of our templates making changes. I asked HappyMelon to update our project banner to the WPBannerMeta standard. WikiProject New Jersey is going to be the primary banner, and Project New Jersey and WPNJ will be redirects.  Jim Miller  See me 21:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I know we can use a lot of work on some of these articles, but as per ChrisRuvolo's comments above, we should specify what the characteristics are of articles by class so that there is consensus on what editors and assessors should be looking for. Alansohn (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Way to go
Next time you revert a edit as vandalism becuase of the edit summary, actually take the time to look at the edit first before rolling it back. You reinstated vandalism at the Smoky Hill High School article. Got it? --70.121.33.78 (talk) 21:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Marilyn Roman nominated at DYK
I have nominated Marilyn Roman for inclusion in DYK, at T:TDYK. You may want to review the requirements. Many of your articles would qualify, and all that's needed beyond writing the article is an interesting hook. Keep up the great work! Alansohn (talk) 05:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Leona Lewis on The X Factor - nominated for deletion (again)
The article Leona Lewis on The X Factor has been nominated for deletion again. I noticed that you were a contributor on the discussion for the first nomination, and your opinions on this topic would be valuable once again. Please feel free to offer your comments to the discussion. Thanks — Wiki edit Jonny (talk) 11:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you
, I wish to say thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 82 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to your expectations. I would especially like to thank Rlevse  for nominating me and  Wizardman  for co-nominating me. &mdash;  JGHowes talk  -  19 August 2008

nav bar
I have taken your WPNJ navbar (Was it Dickens or Twain who said: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"?) and started a new nav bar here: User:G716/sandbox/WPStat navbar. Would you take a look and help me center the portal logo in the table cell? Thanks&mdash; G716  &lt;T·C&gt; 21:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * PS I promise not to tell these guys that you used a pic of the Statue of Liberty here !! Regards&mdash; G716  &lt;T·C&gt; 21:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm working on it now, but I'm not exactly sure which template is forcing it to the right, where in my template it doesn't seem to do that.  Jim Miller  See me 22:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

There's a discussion here: Template_talk:Portal about this: Template:WPMT Sidebar. But the syntax there is beyond my capabilities - could you take a look? Thanks &mdash; G716  &lt;T·C&gt; 23:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it turns out that mine isn't actually centered - it's right justified in the left column of a two column table. Since you aren't using the columns to link talk pages like WPNJ, you don't have the extra padding provided by the empty column. Centering was a lucky matter of column size. For complete transparency, I took a lot of the code from WPVG Sidebar to begin with. The code in the portal template dosn't allow for it to be centered, and that discussion seems to advocate taking the code and modifying it. I could subst the portal template and modify the resulting code once it's in there.  Jim Miller  See me 23:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your help. I'll drop a line for User:Happy-melon and see if s/he has any ideas. I'll let you know what transpires. Best regards&mdash; G716  &lt;T·C&gt; 23:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Happy-melon made some changes here. (This is all far above my head, so I'm not exactly what s/he did) Regards&mdash; G716  &lt;T·C&gt; 12:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Notice delivery by xenobot  01:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As you can see, the deed is ✅. 63 users mercilessly spammed =). Let me know if you need me to delivery any future notices/newsletters. Best of luck with the (hopefully now more) revitalized project! – xeno  ( talk ) 01:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Jim. I think most newsletters are delivered in the collapsed form to create a smaller footprint on the people's talk pages. Mind if I tweak it to be collapsed by default? – xeno  ( talk ) 18:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I tossed that back and forth for a while. I had it collapsed for most of the time I edited it (which was really a backwards way to do things! type, preview, show, repeat). But I couldn't figure out what would happen to it on the WikiProject New Jersey/Newsletter page once I got multiple editions transcluded there. Is there an easy way, without changing the source, that I can force the Current Issue section of that page to stay expanded, while leaving the collapsed state as the default for everything else? I don't mind it being collpased on delivery, but hoped to keep it uncollapsed on the Current issue page.  Jim Miller  See me 18:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ok, this should do it. default action will be "autocollapse" (not sure how that works), but it's shown as far as I can see. the bot will set the collapse flag as it delivers them. when you move it to past issues just transclude it with |collapsed}} at the end. – xeno  ( talk ) 18:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was watching the changes. Makes sense to me. I'll add a comment to the past issues section about the param so I don't forget, and others can see how to do it. THanks.  Jim Miller  See me 18:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (August 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  18:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All done =)... – xeno  ( talk ) 19:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC) and for all your hard work...

le barnstar of diligence!

 * Woo Hoo! My first! And just for splattering multiple userpages with that lovely shade from the NJ state flag image we have on commons. Thanks for the deliveries!  Jim Miller  See me 19:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleting some NJ categories
Chris, I have tagged some unused categories for deletion. You created a few of them, so I wanted to let you know as a courtesy. see here and here if you have any comments.  Jim Miller  See me 00:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. No problem on the removal, since there are equivalent categories.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 01:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S., nice job on the newsletter. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 01:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced comments at WP:N
At Wikipedia talk:Notability, I believe that you placed some comments under an unrelated section. I believe that you meant to discuss the notability inheritance issue, but you placed the comment in a Sarah Palin section instead. Please attend to the issue and move/copy your comment to the correct section if necessary, so that the RfC involved editors know about your comment. —Kanodin 20:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Moise Paul
i do not think i stated anything false about Moise Paul. If I can include associations to his page, how do i state it in a manner that is exceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfectionpaul (talk • contribs) 16:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of whether or not the information is true, but whether or not it can be referenced to reliable sources. If you can show a newspaper or magazine article, or another published source where someone has made claims about his assosciations with those groups, it can be added. If someone else hasn't printed these things before, Wikipedia cannot print them in his article here.  Jim Miller  See me 21:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (September 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (October 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  13:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Third Party Opinion & Article Rescue
I'm inviting you, based on your user page here how much you do for Wiki, in what appears in a non-biased and proper format, to look into this discussion and provide your thoughts since you were not involved in the original discussions and you seem to understand the importance of not deleting existing articles on Wikipedia when they simply could be improved. Here is the link in the deletion review section. Thanks for your time and I laud your talk page in what you strive for Wiki. Thanks. 72.191.15.133 (talk) 22:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

WPNJ Assessment guidelines
FYI, I posted a response to your suggestion on the WPNJ Assessment Talkpage.  shirulashem     (talk)   00:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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Discussion at WikiProject New Jersey
Hi, Jim, User:Nightscream and I had a disagreement over certain parts of NJ municipality articles; because the discussion could potentially affect hundreds of articles, we decided to bring the discussion to WikiProject New Jersey. I would value your input in the discussion, which you can find here. Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 15:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hudson County border
Djflem, I removed the incorrect description of the Hackensack River being a border of Hudson County because according to the article on the river, it ends between Jersey City and Kearny. The Hackensack never enters Essex County before joining the Newark Bay, and cannot be a border of Hudson County. You reverted my sourced change, and I was wondering if you had another source that contradicts my change.  Jim Miller  See me 19:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

As the article about it says, the border between Secaucus in Hudson County and the Bergen County Meadowlands towns is the Hackensack River. It really is! Reference is cited. This is easy to check. Good luck!Djflem (talk) 19:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

A CU needs help
Hey Jim,

I just talked to some fine CU folks in San Antonio. They'd like to get an article about their CU onto wikipedia, but have made some missteps, and now have their entire CU's IP address blocked from editing. Which is way out of line from my POV. It's not like they are trying to spam wikipedia or be malicious, they are making honest mistakes in their attempts. I've given them some recommendations how to get out of jail, but I don't know who I could go to for unblocking their CU's IP. Do you know any CU-friendly admins who could do something about that? Thanks, Morriss. --Mmpartee (talk) 17:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me! Great news: Her account is now unblocked. I told her she may as well start a new account instead of trying to have her old account renamed via WP:CHU. I'm not sure if that means the CU's IP is now unblocked too, or what the next step is to do that. I've told her about you; she definitely would like input on the CU's article so that it passes muster. I told her what I could about third-party sources, no original research, etc. Thanks for all your help, I'm sure she will appreciate additional help too! Take care! --Mmpartee (talk) 18:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Reverting during a discussion
Please do not revert during consensus discussion, as you did here and here. Doing so is inappropriate. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * S'okay. It happens. :-) Nightscream (talk) 22:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Keeping Original Page
Hi Jim! I'm the problem child writing the Firstmark Credit Union article! Thank you for offering to help. If you feel strongly about my keeping the SAT1932CU user page, I am going to trust you. I do want to change my user name to DonnaKP though. Is that possible since I already created a new account with that name?DonnaKP 15:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC) 15:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SAT1932CU (talk • contribs)


 * Hi Again! I decided to keep the new page after all. I left a trail from my old page to my new one if anyone wants to track me down. So I am ready to start my Firstmark Credit Union article. I am placing what I have on my talk page. Would you mind taking a look at it before I make it live? Thanks!!! DonnaKP (talk) 20:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

URL Reference
What are your thoughts on the info and references that I have on the page so far? Is the URL bug at the end of the paragraph the proper way to reference a website? And is the website acceptable as reference? Thanks Jim! DonnaKP (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Good morning Jim! Hope all is well. When you get a moment, could you please review what I have on my sandbox thus far? I am having problems with the way I am referencing things, but the content is there. Thanks for you assistance! DonnaKP 14:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonnaKP (talk • contribs)

Firstmark Credit Union is Live!
I'm not sure how it's live because I wasn't the one that moved it from my sandbox, but I was planning to do it today anyway. Any idea as to how that would have happened? My plan now is to leave the page alone and see what, if anything, is said about it. Thank you again for your assistance. I'm planning to create an another page on a completely different subject in the near future. I'll let you know when I make it live. DonnaKP 20:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonnaKP (talk • contribs)

Re: Help with FAC
Good to hear from you. I've been thinking about making the nomination for the government shutdown article for a while now myself, but given my time has been more sparse lately, I wanted to get someone else to work with, to help make sure the nomination moves along. I'll do what I can to help out. Thanks for keeping me in the loop. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 03:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I worked to help fulfill some of the requests the reviewers have about the article. There are two dead links that they are complaining about.  May you find replacements? -- ZeWrestler   Talk 04:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of the last set of comments. Do you think you can find a replacement for the "N.J. Budget With Tax Increases Likely To Influence U.S. Senate Race" source. I can't seem to find one googling. (See FAC for the comment)-- ZeWrestler  Talk 12:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm still having no luck with that last link. Have you found anything? -- ZeWrestler  Talk 22:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

NJ Gov Shutdown FAC
Shame that the article didn't get promoted during the FAC. However, take a look at the changes that were made to the article because of its nomination. I think this article really benefited from being nominated as its quality improved. There wasn't this much activity surrounding the article since it was brought up to good article status last year. Good working with you again. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 03:11, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

NJRHP
I noticed your well-documented and well-implemented addition of New Jersey Register of Historic Places information to Clark Thread Company Historic District article. Nicely done and footnoted. I am not sure it adds much in this case though, because the NRHP listing supercedes the NJ listing, but it is okay by me.

The NJ source document for Hudson County that you provide does provide other info. Scrolling through it, i find most items are where there is both a NJ listing (SR = state register) and a NRHP listing (NR), or where there is a "SHPO opinion" which I assume means recommend not listing. However there may be places where a place is NJ-listed but not NRHP-listed. Loew's Theatre on page 8 (apparently in Jersey City?) is one. There was apparently an owner objection on that one. I assume New Jersey is the same as New York State, in this: that a historic place can be nominated by anyone, and the State may recognize it on its register, but if the owner objects it will not be NRHP-listed.

Anyhow, if you would like to do articles on the ones that are only New Jersey-listed, I would be glad to help. These would not fall under WikiProject NRHP but would fall under worldwide WikiProject Historic sites (wp:HSITES), which has a general historic sites infobox available similar to the NRHP infobox. Let me know if interested. doncram (talk) 02:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kudos. NJ does operate the same as you state NY does - owners may object to the NHRP listing, but not to the state listing. SHPO refers to a state issued opinion involving funding eligibility. The definitions of the different designations can be found here.


 * I obviously need to expand the New Jersey Register of Historic Places article since it doesn't mention the state designated, but not federal, sites at all. This, of course, will lead me to the need to create NJRHP categories. At least the existence of the hsites infobox will keep me from having to dust off my template skills (mostly copy and paste!) for a NJHRP infobox. Yikes!


 * Still some things to do with HSITES and template:Designation (looks like California got the color the NJ WikiProject uses from the state flag). I will probably finish adding the info to at least the Hudson County NRHP articles, and then take a look at the infobox for adding the information to the Loew's Jersey Theatre article. Expect to see me poking around at HSITES soon.  Jim Miller  See me 03:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, good, and i did mainly mean kudoes. There are various ones with "COE" or with "DOE" indicated, i don't know what that means.  Abbreviations for different NRHP statuses are listed at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, including one which mentions DOE also but i still don't know what it means.  Oh, DOE and COE for New Jersey defined here at this NJ historic preservation office page.  Determination of Eligibility and Certificate of Eligibility explained.  More SR-listed but not NRHP-listed from Hudson County document:
 * page 10, the Staten Island Ferry Route and Terminal Sites is SR listed but not NRHP.
 * page 10, a U.S. Post Office
 * page 13, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York Railroad Company Portal Bridge, (owner objection vs. NR listing)
 * I see the Hudson county PDF file and other county files are avialable where the codes are defined. Will be glad to see you at HSITES.  Thanks! doncram (talk) 05:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Further, the NRIS database has info about places like Loew's Jersey Theater in Jersey City. You can get a cut-and-paste ready NRHP infobox for it by searching on "Loew" and "NJ" and checking the box for "Search for properties that have been delisted?" at Elkman's NRHP infobox generator.  That has info useful for a historic sites infobox, but since the place was never NRHP listed the NRHP infobox itself should not actually be used.  And some of the info put into the NRHP infobox is misleading for non-NRHP-listed places. doncram (talk) 05:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed compromise aimed at consensus at WP:NJ
Hi, JimMillerJr. As you may remember, way back in August I started a thread at WikiProject New Jersey to discuss the "Federal, state, and county representation" subsections in New Jersey municipality articles, as User:Nightscream and I had a substantial disagreement on that subject. Approximately two months later, we've hammered out a compromise that we mostly agree upon, and presently I am seeing if there is a consensus for this compromise. I'm leaving this message here not as canvassing, but because you participated in this discussion previously and perhaps would be interested in weighing in on the compromise. The full discussion is here, and the proposed compromise is here. Thanks in advance for participating! A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 03:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop
As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome. For the Arbitration Committee, Risker (talk) 08:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (November 2009)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  14:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * As you can see, my SLAs are not what they used to be, but your delivery task is ✅ =) –xenotalk 14:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated! Thanks.  Jim Miller  See me 15:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)