User talk:Joe Decker/Archive 30

Draft:Memoirs of a Murderer (2017 film)
Can you please review my draft? Sorry for the copyright mistake. I deleted it.Rudra Tenio Chakraborty (talk) 03:16, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've accepted it, there are still things that can and should be improved (summaries of the reviews in the Reception section, including what date the IMDB ratings were found on (e.g,. "As of January 3, 2017, the IMDB rating was...") I've also added the article to the Film wikiproject.  Thanks! --joe deckertalk 03:52, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, joe decker. I have something to ask. Can I create articles directly without draft? Draft is for unregistered users. I did create articles before directly with article wizard. But now when I start article wizard it asks to create draft. If there is a way to create articles directly, please give me the link. Thanks. Rudra Tenio Chakraborty (talk) 04:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Yes, you can.  Here's the simplest way:
 * Go to the title of the page you want to create. Let's say you wanted to create an article on me.  (Please don't, I'm just using this as an example.)  There's already a "Joe Decker" who was a baseball player who is more famous, so let's say you decide on the title "Joe Decker (photographer)".   You would then simply search for that title, which would take you to this page: .  Do you see the red text, which says, "You may create the page "Joe Decker (photographer)", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered."  If you click on the (red) title in that text, it will take you to an edit window, and if you save there, it should create a page. Again, please do not do this for me, but replace "Joe Decker (photographer)" with the title of your next article.
 * Let me know if you get stuck, or something doesn't work, and thank you for your contributions! --joe deckertalk 04:31, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * One more thing--I know it was a mistake, the copyright thing, but avoid that mistake in the future by never cut and pasting into an article draft, even if you expect to rewrite what it says. It's too easy to accidentally miss something.  Simpler to avoid the trouble in the first place.  Cheers, --joe deckertalk 04:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your help. Thanks. The article wizard is updated I guess. Before there was a option to create articles directly. And I will try to avoid breaking copyright laws. Didn't do it intentionally. Rudra Tenio Chakraborty (talk) 04:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe you, was just explaining a way to help prevent accidents, it's proven useful to me. Cheers, --joe deckertalk 04:57, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

move to draft - what happens next
Hello! I moved a users article draft:Cheloniology to draft space to allow the user time to source it. That's a new user I think, and he or she might not be able to get through that process without a bit of help, which I intend to provide in this case because I think there should be an article about people who specifically study turtles (despite other users who think it should be merged).

What I'd like to know is, if I contribute to the article myself to enhance sourcing and bring it up to encyclopedic standards beyond a dictionary definition, do I now have to resubmit the article via AfC (since it is now in the line) or can I (being the person who relegated it to draft in the first place) move it back to mainspace if I think it is fit? I await your advice. Edaham (talk) 05:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

On a side note, it's nice to see that a AfC reviewer rejected it for exactly the same reasons that I, a NPP moved it to draft, as I've been blundering a bit as a new NPP. Edaham (talk) 05:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * While I'm sure others might fuss, I don't see a real-world problem with an accredited NPP reviewer promoting articles they've touched. WP:BOLD and all that.  On the other hand, the AfC regulations do have an approved list of reviewers, which you might not be on.  To avoid fuss, how about you ping me after you've improved it, and I'll finish any necessary cleanup and approve it?  Cheers,  --joe deckertalk 16:20, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * sure thing. Will do. Thanks for the reply. Edaham (talk) 17:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

request to view deleted content: 'Simone Ahuja'
Hi Joe,

I'd like to request you please userfy or otherwise allow me to view the deleted page 'Simone Ahuja'. Simone is my employer and I am trying to recover the content for her. I understand the page was deleted because it was too self-promotional, so I intend to revise it heavily before I re-publish.

A red link to the page is contained in this active page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Orange_Media

Thank you for all the work you've done for the Wikipedia community,

Jack McCarthy Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackwmcc (talk • contribs) 17:30, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No trouble, I've sent the last version to you via email. Best regards, --joe deckertalk 18:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

hey
Can you go to my talk page and do story time? My name is Gibberish eaters. Gibberish eaters (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, thanks. --joe deckertalk 18:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft page: Professor Peter Whelan
Dear Joe,

I have received a message that my submission for a Wikipedia page has been declined. The page is 'Professor Peter Whelan'. The tone of the article is, in my view, completely neutral with just facts presented. Citations are presented for the relevant facts. It seems that the issue is that the submission is closely based on a University of Leeds profile. Is that correct? I think if that is the case, the issue is with the text above the contents box, as the remainder of the article only contains a list of publications (which can be found using a legal database) and a number of quotations regarding the reception of the work - quotations which do not appear on the University of Leeds website. I'd be grateful if you could clarify what needs to be done in order for the submission to be accepted. If the first four paragraphs were rewritten in language that is not the same as that appearing on the Leeds website (but contains the same fact-based information) would that be acceptable?

I'd be very grateful for any clarification on this. Thanks in advance for your help!

129.11.30.20 (talk) 09:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, the issue is copyright. The draft that I reviewed had copyright issues that went beyond the bibliography, the most notable bits -- 20+ word word-for-word identical stretches of prose, appear to have been removed.  Obviously the titles of works are going to match and not by themselves constitute a copyright issue.  You may wish to make use of  to verify that you've gotten all of them, then resubmit. Thank you! --joe deckertalk 20:39, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Thank you! I love baklava!  --joe deckertalk 20:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Re: Professor Whelan
Thanks Joe! I think that I've made all of the necessary changes. It has been resubmitted with the relevant changes. Thanks again for your help.

81.97.136.69 (talk) 23:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --joe deckertalk 05:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Copy of Deleted Article
Would you be able to provide me with a copy of the Synthea deleted page?

I authored the page and it was recently deleted due to notability guidelines. I would like to monitor the issue and resubmit when more articles are available.

thanks Kindofluke (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * As near as I can tell, what your asking for already exists at User:Kindofluke/Synthea, but perhaps I'm missing something? Cheers, --joe deckertalk 01:08, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

14:54:24, 2 February 2018 review of submission by 197.27.105.141
Hi, I want to know why you deleted my article and help me publishing it. 197.27.105.141 (talk) 14:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi.  I didn't delete it, the draft continues to exist at Draft:Mohamed_Ali_Ben_Ammar_(MABA).
 * I did not approve it, that is, publish it to the encyclopedia, because the article did not show that the subject of the article met our biographical notability guideline. That guideline is at WP:BASIC.
 * At that article, I explained my reasoning:
 * "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people."
 * Our notability guidelines for people are difficult for new editors to make sense of. That's unfortunate.  You may also take a look at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable.  I'm still working on refining it, but my hope is to provide a more step-by-step (if still not simple) approach to explaining what we need in terms of demonstrating notability. I hope that it will be helpful.
 * If you have further questions, please consider asking for assistance at the Wikipedia Teahouse, there should be an invitation on your talk page. They are an excellent help resource for new editors. --joe deckertalk 16:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Help post
Dear Jow Decker, thank you for your suggestion. I'm new here in wikipedia, though I'm working with Reliance Finance Limited I tried to make the article with neutral viewpoint. please help me how can I post an article on my company which will provide neutral information without violating wikipedia policy.

Thanks. Touhid —Preceding undated comment added 13:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in responding. I have two key pieces of advice about writing such articles. First, there's some basic stuff on writing on something you're involved with advice at WP:PSCOI, and that's worth reading if you haven't.  (If you have, no worries.)  Second, the key thing to writing a good Wikipedia article is to start by finding, reliable, independent sources that discuss the topic in detail. In other words, places where signficant legitimate publications have written pieces that have been through a formal editorial process and talk about Reliance in broad ways, and not based on interviews with people at Reliance.  Once you have those sources, writing an article becomes an exercise in writing a coherent summary of those, and then filling in a handful of basic material facts (establishment date, employee counts, etc.) with more direct sources. Best of luck, --joe deckertalk 06:50, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations
I found myself re-reading Articles for deletion/Nancy Heche today, and found I strongly agreed with many points you made there, and thought you made those points well. Okay, we already agreed on key points -- still, I thought I would congratulate you.

I can't remember if we have ever disagreed, in other discussions, but I think I will try to have my ancient brain try to notice if you weigh in in other discussions I am participating in.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Why, thank you! I haven't been nearly as active at AfD as I used to be (whether as a participant or a closer), but despite the time that's passed I recall valuing your contributions to deletion discussions highly, and so your comment here is particularly appreciated.  Cheers, --joe deckertalk 06:59, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Request on 10:58:49, 13 February 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Helga Swart
Hi, I am the communication manager at the Foundation for Professional Development and as a private university in South Africa, we would like to include a entry on what we do etc. The text used is our own intellectual property and has been re-written to the extent that we can do that. How many ways are there to say that we are registered as a private higher education institute according to the relevant laws applicable in SA. I have been struggling with getting this entry approved for quite a while. Please assist in what I can do. Regards

Helga Swart (talk) 10:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in responding. I have two key pieces of advice about writing such articles. First, there's some basic stuff on writing on something you're involved with advice at WP:PSCOI, and that's worth reading if you haven't. (If you have, no worries.) Second, the key thing to writing a good Wikipedia article is to start by finding, reliable, independent sources that discuss the topic in detail. In other words, places where signficant legitimate publications have written pieces that have been through a formal editorial process and talk about the Foundation in broad ways, and not based on interviews with people at the Foundation. Once you have those sources, writing an article becomes an exercise in writing a coherent summary of those, and then filling in a handful of basic material facts (establishment date, employee counts, etc.) with more direct sources. You may also find that asking for assistance at the WP:Teahouse to be helpful, they're a great resource for new editors.
 * With regard to copyright, your article should not be denied over a single three or four word wording correspondence.  If there are several and/or longer passages, however, those raise legitimate legal issues for Wikipedia, as anything you put here can be used by anyone for any purpose (save it must be used for attribution), and if you have the legal right to give away a license to do that, then you can establish your identity and legal right to do so by following the instructions at Donating copyrighted materials.
 * You will generally not find this copyright stuff an issue if you follow my advice about sources. If, instead of starting with how you would prefer to talk about your Foundation, you would sit and read what reliable in-depth independent sources say about it and summarize those sources in your own words, you will find that what you write fairly naturally avoids copyright issues as well.
 * Best of luck! --joe deckertalk 17:27, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Declined article
hi Joe i wanna know what part of my article i need to fix to get accepted, hope your answer, thank you

regards, Kye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revolverkye (talk • contribs) 22:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi! There's an explanation in the pink box at the top of the draft.  You need to add references to reliable, secondary sources, independent of the subject, that discuss the subject in detail. If you'd like additional help in understanding what's needed here, you may want to ask for assistance at the Wikipedia Teahouse.  There's a link on your talk page, and they're a great place to get started learning how to work within our sometimes mystifying policies and guidelines. --joe deckertalk 16:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Vladimir Peftiev PR at work
Hi, wanted to draw your attention to the article Vladimir Peftiev - anonymous users (the oligarch's PR people?) have removed properly sourced information added by me (and I wasn't even notified). I have added explanations to the talk page Talk:Vladimir Peftiev. Thanks!--Czalex 22:53, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed this, I'm travelling. If you feel this editing is being done with a conflict of interest, you may want to report it at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Best of luck. --joe deckertalk 19:33, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate Arguments
Every so often, due to an edit on a high use template, Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls gets flooded with articles. After the error has been fixed it can take a day or more for the flood to clear, through normal or null edits or just waiting for pages to be re-processed. During this time we have to wait for the smoke to clear until genuine errors become visible in the category again. Would it be feasible for your bot to run through the category and speed the process up? - X201 (talk) 08:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi! I should be able to take a look this weekend when I'm back home, I suspect it'll be easy.  Sorry for the delay! --joe deckertalk 15:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No Problem. It's a non-regular regular thing, if you get what I'm trying to describe. Can you do logic with your bot i.e Only run if there are more than x articles in the category? - X201 (talk) 08:45, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jer Thorp has been accepted
 Jer Thorp, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Carwil (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Jer_Thorp help desk] .
 * If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

13 years of editing, today

 * Thanks! --joe deckertalk 14:53, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

re: Communication Research Reports proposed article
Thanks so much for your feedback. It looks like the new article was created sometime after I submitted my original, but no matter -- I was simply able to merge my proposed article with the newly created one. All is well. =) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bowmanspartan (talk • contribs) 00:03, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and thank you for your contributions, and let me know if I can ever be of assistance. --joe deckertalk 00:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Bugs
Hi Joe, ACTRIAL → ACREQ: Please see. This risks becoming the same fiasco as Bugzilla 2011. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Will do after I've had some coffee, sounds like I'm gonna need it. --joe deckertalk 14:15, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of article - not copyrighted
Hi Joe,

That work is not copyrighted. It's my own work. Not sure how to go about getting that verified?

The link you sent to as it being copyrighted is my own work. I do research and work for DiaPharma.

That is my own material that I created and wrote based on quite a lot of literature review and research.

Michael Hambleton, PhD DiaPharma Group, Inc.
 * Hi, the process for that is described here: Donating copyrighted materials. I know it sounds like that wouldn't apply, but that's the right place to go. Best of luck, --joe deckertalk 18:14, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

02:16:12, 3 May 2018 review of submission by Daniel Williams1978
Hi Joe, I've updated the draft version of the Hydrogen Council entry, with a logo, further information regarding its formation in 2017 and a revision of the format/structure. Any thoughts are welcome.

Daniel Williams1978 (talk) 02:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for approving my article and fixing my citations. Now that I see how to properly cite I can do so moving forward. I'm excited to contribute

AmateurNaturalist (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC) 
 * Wonderful! Our citation/reference stuff is complex and one of the most frustrating elements for new editors, if there's anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask.  All the best, --joe deckertalk 17:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Request on 18:10:10, 24 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Anirudh 2057
Anirudh 2057 (talk) 18:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * What is your question? --joe deckertalk 17:02, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Peter Lahdenpera
Hi Joe, do you by chance know Peter Lahdenpera?
 * Name doesn't ring a bell, I see there's a biathlete of that name, but I don't know him.
 * (There are a lot of Joe Deckers, though, and if you think I'm the pretty famous fitness expert, I'm not.)
 * Does this relate to a Wikipedia matter? --joe deckertalk 06:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No no, no Wikipedia matter. I was just wondering. The biathlete is my grandpa. He has a best friend named Joe Decker so I was just wondering. I guess there are a lot of Joe Deckers out there. Thanks for the conformation! BluePankow   ✉  07:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there are a bunch of us! :)  Have a great day!  --joe deckertalk 14:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Resha Konkar
Hi Joe. I had earlier submitted the article without completing it, however I've resubmitted the complete one now. So can you please check? Thank you! Draft:Resha Konkar.--Princessruby (talk) 11:54, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've approved it, the coverage appears sufficient for WP:BASIC. Cheers, --joe deckertalk 14:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can u please review the page that I had created directly the other day as well? Sailesh Gulabani. Princessruby (talk) 18:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi!
 * First, it looks good so far as I see from a quick look, and is already in the encyclopedia as I write this.
 * AfC reviewers including myself are performing a very first-level of quality control, primarily looking for really signficant problems (copyright issues, advertising/spamming, abuse, lack of sources, etc.) We manage to review several hundred articles a day, but as a result, the reviews we do are imperfect and limited in scope.
 * If you are interested in deeper feedback, there are a couple places you can go. You could ask (and this could take time) for a review at our peer review process, and/or ask for someone to look it over at the talk pages of various WikiProjects that relate to the subject.  If Peer Review loves your article (after, perhaps, some changes), there are ways of having articles reviewed to get them to a higher standard, look at Good Articles or even Featured Articles.  Of these, I'd consider WP:PR my first suggestion.
 * In any case, thank you for joining us in our efforts to build an encyclopedia! --joe deckertalk 21:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your kind words. --Princessruby (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)--Princessruby (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Atthaya Thitikul
Why did you decline this submission when WP:AFCSTANDARDS says 'Article submissions that are likely to survive an AfD nomination should be accepted and published to mainspace.' Thitikul as a winner of a professional golf tournament passes WP:NGOLF criteria #3. She also passes criteria #5, she's made the cut in a women's major championship. Cleaning up the article isn't a valid reason to decline when the article would pass AFD and you aren't the first editor to do it. might want to answer too....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:57, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * At the time, MINREF. The promotional tone also concerned me, but that wasn't by itself a show-stopper. We do usually decline on MINREF, AfC guidance is somewhat self-contradictory on this and a few related points.
 * In any case, the article has been improved by two editors since the decline addressing the MINREF issue, and I'm happy to approve it. --joe deckertalk 15:07, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Ashnyu
Hi Joe,

Just saw your note on Draft:SingularDTV and fixed the section with the issue. Can you please take a look at it? Thanks! --Ashnyu —Preceding undated comment added 21:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Reasonably possible?
Did you mean remotely possible here? -- RoySmith (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * More or less, yes. If that came across poorly or ambiguously, I'd be happy to reword or clarify, I think I was invoking the general idea of reasonable doubt, and the idea that I had (with respect to whether or not this AfD would end up resulting in deletion of the article), none. --joe deckertalk 01:03, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ahh, nevermind, I completely see your point. *headdesk* I've made the correction, thanks. --joe deckertalk 01:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Taman Permai, Seremban
Hi i noticed you deleted my article which took me a long time to learn how to do. Can you please reinstate it and move it back to draft so i can fix it / rewrite it. The reason i wrote the article in the first place is because i had many requests from school kids about the history of the area so i would appreciate if you can let me rework it.
 * I would be happy to restore the article so that you can work on it, although it may be (and I don't know yet) impossible to have an article on the topic. I've moved the deleted text to Draft:Taman Permai, Seremban.
 * There are two fundamental issues that will need to be address for the draft to become an article.
 * There are at least two hurdles that you'll need to clear for that draft to become an article.
 * The most important of these is meeting our General notability guideline. This guideline requires a certain amount of independent third-party coverage which discuss the subject in detail, and those references need to appear in the article.  No amount of rewording the text of the article can address this concern, we'd need discussions in other reliable reference works (books from reputable publishers, newspapers, etc.) that discuss the place in detail.  HOWEVER, there is an exception to this part one, if there is a government of Taman Permai in particular, if it is what in the US would call a town rather than a neighborhood (and the article isn't clear on this point) with a distinct government, then it it would be sufficient to show that, but again, with a reliable reference.
 * The second part, important but only worth working toward if the above problem can be resolved, has to do with writing neutral text. In cases where we have "multiple reliable independent sources that discuss the topic in detail", this is best done by neutrally summarizing (without copying from) what those sources say in objective language.  In cases where we don't have those sort of sources, but just the knowledge that there is an official town or city as indicated in a particular place, my best advice is to start by saying no more than is necessary.  It's a town, where it's located, when it was founded, how many people live there, a few facts like that, and let it go.
 * There are some small issues which should be fixed as well, but if these two issues can be addressed, the rest is quite easy. The one small matter I'll mention is that of references.  The way we do references is a bit complex and obscure. I'd recommend reading Referencing for beginners, which includes a nice video showing how to use the RefToolbar, which makes working with references a whole lot easier.
 * Best of luck! --joe deckertalk 02:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Benjamin Francis Conn Costelloe
Hello Joe,

Thank you kindly for the note that Find-a-Grave is not a good reliable secondary source for the Benjamin Francis Conn Costelloe page. I found the same information confirmed via St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery, and added that as a reference instead. Is that acceptable? Thanks! S.ann.adams (talk) 02:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I think that's fine for verifying their burial, yes. Sorry I won't be able to do a full review on the article at the moment, but another reviewer, I hope, will be along in the next few days.  Thanks for the quick response!  --joe deckertalk 02:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

AFC reviewing standards
I have raised the matter of how Draft:Napoleon Oak (Lausanne) has been AFC reviewed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation. Since you were one of the reviewers I would be particularly interested to hear any comments you may have. Best wishes. Thincat (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --joe deckertalk 15:12, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

John Banks Elliott
Ref: John Banks Elliott Dear Joe Decker,

Ambassador John Banks Elliott has passed away. I tried making an entry in the Category: 2018 deaths but am having problems, when he was living I was having problems, and now that he is dead, I am still having problems. Can you please help me. The reference of his death has not yet been published in the papers. I will enter it as soon as I get the links. Below is what I entered.

John Banks Elliott (09 February, 1917 – 18 July, 2018)


 * death date  = July 18, 2018 (age 101), Ghanaian, Diplomat and Statesman, Philanthropist and Entrepreneur.
 * death place = Nettlebed, Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire

After this is sorted, I don't think I ever want to submit an article again.

Please Help.

DorothyDorothyelliott (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi
 * First, and most importantly, let me express my deepest condolences.
 * As for reporting the death here, reports of his death here (and, please, let me be clear, this has nothing to do with whether or not I personally believe you, I do) have to follow published sources. There is no other way within our policies and guidelines, much like the paper encyclopedias in the library, what we write is sometimes not up to date with reality.
 * I have no doubt that that will be frustrating, and I apologize. There are reasons our bureaucracy works the way it does, but it can be, at times, small comfort.
 * Again, my best wishes and deepest condolences to you. --joe deckertalk 05:14, 22 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Dear Joe Decker,
 * My notice of death ref. John Banks Elliott has been reverted (please see below). I found the revert to be a bit hasty as I am waiting on the reference link from the family. I do not think it appropriate to use the copy of his death certificate as reference.
 * Hello, I'm Stwalkerster. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on John Banks Elliott, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it.

stwalkerster (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC) = =
 * Thank you for your sympathy, indeed it a sad occurrence.

Kind regards, DorothyDorothyelliott (talk) 12:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

 * I'm traveling, but am glad you have resubmitted it for review, and I hope that another reviewer should be able to take a look soon. Best regards, --joe deckertalk 19:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm traveling, but am glad you have resubmitted it for review, and I hope that another reviewer should be able to take a look soon. Best regards, --joe deckertalk 19:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Ahad Raza Mir
Hi, since its been an year this article in in draft, I think now the article subject meets the notability criteria and has substantial information and references. Please look into the article, or if need my help I would improve it further so it could be moved to an article. Nauriya, Let's talk - 17:11, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm travelling at the moment, but recommend resubmitting the article for another reviewer to assess. Best of luck!  --joe deckertalk 19:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Because I can improve the article and change its manual of style and then move to article myself but I wanted to ask before I could proceed. Nauriya, Let's talk - 23:09, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh! I'm sorry, usually when I get this sort of note their from the original submitter.  I haven't looked at the article in depth (and I'm not in a position to do so due to travel), but as you're an long-term established editor I'm more than happy to WP:AGF for your improvements and move to mainspace.  --joe deckertalk 00:34, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Declined Article for Justin Bratton
Hi there, I'm not sure why the article keeps getting declined as I feel there are plenty of references and the subject is quite well known. What else should I be doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezra Cheung (talk • contribs) 08:09, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi
 * As near as I can tell from the article history, nobody has rereviewed the article since I last did in February. Had you thought someone had declined it again since? If that's the confusion, you will need to resubmit the article by replacing the submit template in the article with a new one.
 * I am travelling and won't be able to do the review myself, but I wish you the best of luck. Without having read the article since February, I will say that our notability guidelines are extremely confusing to new editors in general, you are not alone in finding them so. I tried to write up a more direct explanation of those guidelines some time back at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable, and in terms of general advice, that may be helpful.
 * Best of luck! --joe deckertalk 17:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:BRAID (film)
Hey Joe, thanks for highlighting my the plot we used from Tribeca which I actually wrote... I've submitted to Wikipedia for approval a new plot that I wrote that should be further away from the one i wrote for Tribeca Film Festival.. hope all is well! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logansteinhardt (talk • contribs) 16:04, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi I'm travelling and won't be able to rereview the article myself, but thank you for the improvements, and you will need to submit the article again for another reviewer to take a look.  Best of luck! --joe deckertalk 17:16, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Rush Hour 4
Hi there, I noticed that the Rush Hour 4 page is indefinitely fully protected. I suggest removing the full protection and redirecting it to Rush_Hour_(franchise) instead of Rush Hour 3, since the topic has become more informative and there are real talks about the creation of the movie. Thank you. — [ kentron hayastan ]
 * I've taken care of it. S warm   ♠  23:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks --joe deckertalk 21:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Naomi Osaka
Hey--I saw your comments on the talk page. I also think there is plenty of good reason to say something like "of Haitian-Japanese descent" in the lead. I see said something similar. Drmies (talk) 01:17, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rush Hour 4


The article Rush Hour 4 has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Darsana.vinod (talk) 16:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Rush Hour 4 for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rush Hour 4 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Rush Hour 4& until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Darsana.vinod (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your advise Darsana.vinod (talk) 16:40, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad to, thanks. --joe deckertalk 18:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2018
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Tap on the pencil icon to start editing. The page will probably open in the wikitext editor.

You will see another pencil icon in the toolbar. Tap on that pencil icon to the switch between visual editing and wikitext editing.



Remember to publish your changes when you're done.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

 * The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
 * The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles.  You can read the report.
 * The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
 * The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar.  You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
 * The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
 * The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images.  It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published.

Let's work together

 * The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website.  Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
 * The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
 * If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly.  We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation.

— Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Re-creating Michael Mills (musician)
Hi, I'm following the suggestion at to contact you before re-creating a page you've deleted in 2014, as after reading through Wikipedia's policies for a while I'm still not sure it won't get deleted again. I've read your Secret Decoder Ring which says you'll redirect me to deletion review, but that page says to discuss it with you first...

Anyway, here are my arguments for notability (per WP:MUSICBIO):
 * "subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works" - I'm still not sure what qualifies as a "reliable" source for the purpose of determining notability in a relatively obscure genre (Progressive rock from Australia), but I think the following are non self-published (judging from their "about" pages and the fact that some are already used on wikipedia) and are independent from the band:
 * http://www.beat.com.au/music/toehider (a piece about collaboration with Vinny_Appice and a European tour)
 * http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/CDReviews/ToehiderWhatKindOfCreatureAmI.html (one of their album reviews)
 * https://thebrag.com/toehider/ (a review/interview)
 * https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/10/michael-mills-kate-bush-wuthering-heights_n_4573901.html (a note about his most popular youtube video which had 700k views at some point; though not attributed to a staff HuffPost contributor)
 * "coverage of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour" - there appears to be disagreement as to what constitutes "non-trivial coverage" or a "tour", but he has certainly toured in Australia, and performed in Europe (as part of Ayreon, at some festivals, and reportedly - I could only find brief mentions like in the beat.com.au article above - by himself)
 * "2+ albums on one of the more important indie labels" - I'm not sure what does it mean to release an album "on" a label when you can crowdfund it and sell via bandcamp, but the thebrag.com article mentioned above has "out now through Bird’s Robe Records", which is associated with a number of other performers who already have Wikipedia pages
 * "featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network" - not sure what "substantial" implies, but there are indications of him performing on both Australian TV and radio a few times:

Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia! --asqueella (talk) 02:10, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Since you seem to be busy with other things, I decided to bring it up in the DRV in the meantime. --asqueella (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Deletion review for Michael Mills (musician)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Michael Mills (musician). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. asqueella (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail
Please respond here or by email promptly. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Reply sent. Thank you!  --joe deckertalk 07:44, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of it quickly. All good now. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I've made the adjustments to the files being used, and with any luck, stuff should be running in the next 24 hours. --joe deckertalk 05:35, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Bot issue
Could you please have a look at this discussion and see if you can do anything? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. --joe deckertalk 05:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Purging Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories
Hi Joe

@Redrose64 has just kindly told me about @Joe's Null Bot. I was sadly unaware of this very valuable bot ... so thank you for running it.

I raised a problem at WT:Categorization. It looks like you might be able to help.

Please could you chip in there to say whether you can help?

Thanks. -- Brown Haired Girl (talk) • (contribs) 23:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure! I think so, sorry I've been offline so much, weird combination of life events. I've responded there. --joe deckertalk 05:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

CAT:AFC
Hello Joe. There's a lot of drafts stuck in Category:AfC pending submissions by age/0 days ago even though they are older than that, and a null edit fixes the issue. Could you check if your bot is purging the pages in CAT:AFC as it should? Thanks. Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:52, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * : Yep, based on a quick look, yep, that's not working.  And it's interesting because it's traversing the correct categories and attempting to touch the correct articles, and not getting an error.  I hope I will have a chance to spend more time trying to make sense of this in the next two days.  --joe deckertalk 07:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It might be that  is broken - both using Special:ApiSandbox and cURL to use the API to purge with forcelinkupdate doesn't seem to do anything (update the categories) for me. Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That would explain a good deal... --joe deckertalk 20:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Phabricator has been informed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210307

Nomination for merging of Template:MOS-TM
Template:MOS-TM has been nominated for merging with Template:MOS-TW. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. feminist (talk) 05:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

How it got to main space
Hi. I am not sure how Yadlapati Venkatarao article that you declined for submission on December 17 landed on main space. Please check. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The subject is definitely notable. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It was recreated outside of the AfC process, by what apparently is another editor. The Wikipedia community will, in the end, be the judge of notability, if you want to know how it judges that, I've tried to explain our policies in more straightforward language at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable. --joe deckertalk 04:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am sincerely touched, thank you. --joe deckertalk 07:49, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho


 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding ~ to your friends' talk pages.

 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  14:16, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and happy winter holidays to you as well! --joe deckertalk 07:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Essay

 * I ran across User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable that apparently never made it out of user space. I saw there was support and it would seem one way to find out is to present it to the community. Just a thought. Otr500 (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Category:AfC pending submissions by age Category:Articles with missing files - Null Bot
Hi, I know the Joe's Null Bot functionality currently does not work, but when it's hopefully fixed in 1.32 could Category:AfC pending submissions by age be added as a daily task? I've been just randomly running a client program using the api to do the same thing now and then to clean thing up before checking the rest. If people create new articles first with image names then upload the new images it creates a false entry in the cat. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, wouldn't task 4 already purge all the relevant files? Definitely remind me once the fix (and I'm told the server fix has been coded, but not yet installed) and I'll take a deeper look, and of course we can get Null Bot to fix it if there's a need.  --joe deckertalk 23:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi again - sorry I was not paying attention and pasted the wrong category, DOH! I meant Category:Articles with missing files, and yes task 4 does the AfC ones for the by age cat as well.... I've been manually doing that every few days as well while the bug was active. It appears the bug should have been fixed in MW 1.32 which is now out and this site now says "MediaWiki 1.33.0-wmf.12" which apparently has the fix for T210307. (I don't get the versioning!). So hopefully the existing tasks will work again and possibly Category:Articles with missing files could be added. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:11, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Restore Request
Hello Joe Decker,

Please, can you restore this deleted article as a draft or send to me for editing? Thank you in advance. Article: Olufemi O. Okenla. Sola Sorinmade 20:10, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Sola Sorinmade 00:40, 29 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SolaSorinmade (talk • contribs)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary! From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 12:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Creation of "King Saha"
Hello User:Joe Decker, I have noticed that you previously deleted the page "King Saha" but I don't know the reason why.I noticed it now as I tried to create the page.King Saha is a Ugandan musician and I think he is notable enough. Warm regards I'm Agaba Perez (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Agaba,
 * I did delete the article in 2014, more or less simply taking the consensus of the community at that time in the discussion at Articles for deletion/King Saha. That's been five years, and it's entirely possible that new sourcing has become available in that time, so, no objections to the recreation, if other editors feel that the musician doesn't meet our notability guidelines, they can start a new discussion on the matter. --joe deckertalk 20:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Between you and I, however, the sourcing right now would be unlikely to be considered sufficient to show that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Our notability guidelines are a bit complex, I've attempted to summarize them in a manner closer to plain English at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable.  I hope you will find them helpful.    --joe deckertalk 06:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:25, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Noted. Already in compliance. --joe deckertalk 01:21, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Noted. --joe deckertalk 21:35, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Null bot for Picture of the day/On the main pages
Can you have [User:Joe's Null Bot]] purge Picture of the day/On the main pages daily after UTC midnight? The page exists to handle cascade protection of multi-picture POTDs for the main page, see WT:POTD. Thanks. Anomie⚔ 11:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

 Edit Cards 



This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:


 * 1) Section editing
 * 2) * The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
 * 3) * The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
 * 4) Loading overlay
 * 5) * The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.


 * Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now.  Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
 * Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
 * Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor?  We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
 * Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

 * Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019.  They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space.  Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
 * Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Joe's Null Bot status and age categories for pending AfC submissions
Recently the categories of pending AfC submissions have stopped updating as they age. Category:AfC pending submissions by age/0 days ago, for example, contains numerous drafts that are older, such as Draft:Nicholas Reece, which was submitted on 18 July.

Once upon a time your Joe's Null Bot took care of this. You last updated the bot's status page in November 2018 to say that it was down and a fix was in progress, and in April 2019 the Phabricator ticket you linked was marked done.

Did Joe's Null Bot resume service and only recently stop working again, or did the category update task get passed off to some other bot that has now broken down? --Worldbruce (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Buffalo Maritime Center for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Buffalo Maritime Center is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Buffalo Maritime Center until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Requesting for undeletion of the article Sunni Dawat-e-Islami.
Hello, Joe Decker.

As you deleted Sunni Dawat-e-Islami, i have found strong references regarding the article, and the article "Sunni Dawate Islami" is an international, non-political and purely religious movement. It promotes the propagation of the true beliefs of Islam under the teaching of the true sect of Ahle Sunnah Wa Jama'ah, and the article was deleted because the article was inappropiate referenced, so the article was not showing the notability, but i have found the article notable as per references and have some strong reference regarding the article, so i request you to undelete the article, so i can work on it.

Thank You. Hzk12345 (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019
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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help
What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages
The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor
The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards



 * On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
 * There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
 * Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar



 * In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
 * One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
 * New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
 * Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
 * Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania
The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

 * Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes.  The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
 * Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
 * Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November.  This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations.  The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Revive the God (Spawn)
Come on dude revive the God (Spawn) and redirect it to Spawn characters it's really that simple. There is literally image wiki database to help update the Spawn characters.--2601:403:4201:A1E0:13:2DF1:4040:AFFF (talk) 16:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Richard T. Warner for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Richard T. Warner is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Richard T. Warner (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:10, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore)/sandbox


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created, Template:Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore)/sandbox, was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. -- AquaDTRS (talk) 07:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools
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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.



The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.


 * On 31 March 2020, the new tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias:  Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian.  If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
 * The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.  The team will test features such as:
 * an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
 * a rich-text visual editing option, and
 * other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved"  section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Abubakar Gimba
Hi am. I just want to request the recreation of this page you delete Abubakar Gimba, on a contrary of copy right. I saw the notification when trying to create this page, that I should contact the list of user below, already not knowing its has been created and delete,  thou i didn't even know how on earth the author of this page created it but mine is better if you can permit me, because I'm already done with writing about the authors biography in my Android notebook But if not necessary, I'll just forget about the page. ''Much regards ( F5pillar ---/  Let's talk🖋📩 ) 10:20, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Deletion review for Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind
User:Kabristan1 has asked for a deletion review of Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 08:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)