User talk:JonDePlume

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Espionage Act of 1917
RE: "During the Cold War, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan stated that the Act helped to create a national "culture of secrecy"." Did Moynihan make this statement during the Cold War, or did he say that the Act had certain effects during the Cold War? Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 17:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe this phrase was used in the 103rd United States Congress, which would place it between 1993 and 1995, then later in his book Secrecy: The American Experience, which was published in December 1999. The  book deplores the excessive use of security by the federal government, and cites examples of how excessive secrecy is used to justify hawkish policies and prevent their examination by the general public.  Moynihan was very anti-Soviet, but came to mistrust the Reagan administration over its "Red Scare" style Latin American policies.  Because I'm not 100% sure of the dates, and because some might say that Latin American policies extend beyond the limits of the Cold War, I've re-written this section so that it just reflects the Senator's overall misgivings with how information ends up being classified as "secret".  JonDePlume (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Much better. Just FYI, wikipedia uses 1991 as the end of the Cold War. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback -- greatly appreciated!  JonDePlume (talk) 22:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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Alfred Zehe
I've added an entry for Alfred Zehe. I wish I had a citation that explicitly stated that he was charged under the Espionage Act instead of just "charged as a spy." Perhaps you have something. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I found a link to the decision that does this explicitly. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 02:44, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I did not remove the link from the Espionage to Zehe. I moved it. Zehe is now mentioned in the article. It's not a "See also". Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 03:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Bradley Manning

 * Jon, I appreciate your comments. Thank you.  Please note I've tagged the article WP:RECENT.  With that tag in mind, I hope editors can resist the temptation to add/repeat sensational repeats of headline grabbing politicians who themselves as nothing to the debate.  Indeed, their remarks are not much better than the vandalism we've seen lately.--S. Rich (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Manning and my Talk page
Hey, Jon, I'm sure you duplicated your comments on my Talk page (in addition to the Manning Talk page) with the best of intentions, probably to make sure I understand what was going on, but it was unnecessary. We can keep our discussion on the Manning Talk page. As I'm sure you'll see, I've commented there. Thanks!--Bbb23 (talk) 01:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

B. Manning discussion page
Hi, would you have a look at B. Manning discussion page ? Trente7cinq (talk) 09:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for having replied. If I were to choose just one point to be discussed, it would be this one : "To be perfectly clear : the article SHOULD mention that the chatlogs were just published in excerpts (25% of them according to Wired). That point engages the neutrality of the WHOLE article".I really can't understand why such a simple thing can't be done !!!! It is ABC ! What do you think about that ?Trente7cinq (talk) 14:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be inappropriate if the article took on the flavor of advocacy for Bradley Manning, or a lampoon of the case being made against him; Wikipedia's guidelines are very clear on this.  However, I think it's perfectly fine to mention that the context & authenticity of the chat logs has been called into question by Manning's friends  and prominent public advocates (e.g.:  David House, Glenn Greenwald, etc.) -- assuming you accompany that with decent citations.   JonDePlume (talk) 19:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Utility templates and uncategorized templates
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