User talk:Kennethaw88/Archive 2

Henry Holt
Hello, I was just wondering if you had any more information regarding Henry Holt? I just recently learned he is my great grandfather and am hoping to learn more about him. If you do and are willing to share, can you email me at ashleyholt89 at gmail.com Please? And Thank you for your time. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleyholt89 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 27 June 2015

Garfield County, Utah
There is a small problem at Garfield County, Utah because three converts have no value (diff). I was planning to fix it but am too lazy at the moment so am hoping you will find the missing values. Johnuniq (talk) 07:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Talk:Kalinga (province)
Hello Kennethaw88. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Talk:Kalinga (province), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''The talk page must match the article. Kalinga isn't subject to a speedy move. .''' Thank you. Ged UK  13:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, as you left it, the talk page didn't match the article. I tried to carry out the move request here (diff), but I didn't realize that the target's talk page had a history, so Talk:Kalinga was separated from the article. I understand if that doesn't actually qualify for G6, but I didn't know how else to move the talk page. I have now merged the talk page contents into the new talk page (I hope I preserved attribution correctly). If that is also not correct, please advise how to fix things like this in the future. kennethaw88 • talk 23:10, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Pilot, North Carolina
I just discovered this page. I don't know whether it should even exist. I can't find evidence of the existence of Pilot in Davidson County in the way I have in the past. I'm at home and have slow Internet, and don't care to go to unfamiliar web sites anyway, so I'm not sure how to prove this place even exists.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I found the other place by searching for pilot at the GNIS database, which has this listing in Davidson County. It's listed as a "Populated Place", and I don't know enough about the GNIS to know if that just means unincorporated community, or ghost town, or something else. It's my understanding that a listing there is enough to prove existence, although I don't really work in creating US place articles, so I don't really know that much. kennethaw88 • talk 00:22, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking more into it, if I plug in the GNIS coordinates in Google Maps, I can see a Pilot Fire Department and Pilot Elementary School, although they are within the city of Thomasville. kennethaw88 • talk 00:32, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot about you. I usually look at my contributions to see if any don't have "current" beside them but I somehow overlooked you. Thanks.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  00:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Sutherland House


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Michigan NR lists
It's an error that you observed and I didn't. Michigan generally having a rather poor collection of NR-list headers and footers, I replaced several of them with better editions from other states, tweaking everything as applicable to preserve good and relevant elements: no reason to remove the link to the list of state historic sites, and the intro should not say "Jackson County, Indiana", of course. However, I didn't notice that there was a National Register of Historic Places in Michigan, let alone that it was in use here; I wouldn't have removed it had I noticed. The National Register of Historic Places template wasn't newly added (it was there already); the new template is actually Jackson County, Michigan, because most pages with this style of header have footers that include the county template. Nyttend (talk) 02:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd say redirect, after merging whatever content is useful and non-redundant. I hesitate to use the michmarkers website; it's not some official state website or other solid source.  Nyttend (talk) 02:07, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Wrong addresses
Just checked my watchlist, and discovered that you'd spotted the erroneous address for the Hebron, Nebraska post office, listed at National Register of Historic Places listings in Nebraska. Good eye!

Could I suggest that when you catch such errors in the future, you add a citation to show how you found the correct address? I've done so for the Hebron PO, discovering that the bad address was faithfully transcribed from the nominating form (so the typo was there, and not the fault of a WP editor).

Also, it'd be a good idea to add a note to WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues. This will, we hope, one day lead to some of the many errors in the NRIS being fixed. (It's also useful to document these errors in light of some editors' reliance on NRIS as a source.) I've done that for the Hebron PO already, shamelessly taking credit for your error-catching eye.

Glad that you caught the Hebron issue. I should've caught and corrected that one when I photographed the building in 2010. As my excuse, I'll plead that it was early in my WP career. Ammodramus (talk) 22:46, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll be sure to add a citation for similar fixes. Indeed, I found this one through the USPS website, because I've been checking to see which buildings belong in the former post offices categories on commons. As for the NRIS error page, I can't quite promise I'll update that as well. I've already corrected lots of small errors and updated info before I even knew about the error page. For me, it doesn't really seem worth it because of the sloppy way the NRIS is maintained. There are just too many small errors, many of which are just simple typos that most people can figure out. kennethaw88 • talk 01:46, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Bad NRIS addresses are particularly painful to me, because when I'm on the road and quickly compile a list of places to photograph, I don't usually have time to check out all the nom forms and see if there're inconsistencies.  I'm going to have to make a trip back to Beresford, South Dakota, because some chump at NPS changed "309" into "304", causing me to shoot the wrong house while standing with my back to the correct one.
 * That said, we can't blame some feckless GS-3 at NPS for the error in the Hebron post office's address: it was the fault of whomever typed up the nom form, and the transcriber accurately transcribed the error. Ammodramus (talk) 02:28, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Move review for I Love NY (2015 film)
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Improving chart at Legality of cannabis by U.S. jurisdiction
This article is the most-viewed page for cannabis issues in the US (~1,500 views/day). I think we can streamline it to make it less clunky and more intuitive for readers, especially now that we have state-specific articles for all US states. Your feedback is invited: Talk:Legality_of_cannabis_by_U.S._jurisdiction. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 19:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Parkway West hs
I don't understand your recent page move on the above school. There is only one other school in the entire country named Parkway (none named Parkway West) and it is in Philly. However, it appears neither the school district nor NCES uses the district's name as part of the school's name. So, if the school actually is named Parkway West, the title needs no disambiguation. However, indications are that its name is simply West High School, which would require city, state disambiguation. Am I missing something? John from Idegon (talk) 06:41, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you asking if the Missouri school uses the full title "Parkway West"? Because I have no idea; I just moved the existing title to disambiguate from the Parkway West in Philadelphia, which does use the full title. If the Missouri school is just West High School, then yes, it should have its title changed. I haven't actually checked what its name is. kennethaw88 • talk 06:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * From the Missouri School's website, it looks like they use both "Parkway West Longhorns" and "West High". From very brief googling, it seems common usage is split. I don't know which title it should use on Wikipedia. The Philadelphia website definitely uses the full "Parkway West High School". Also there is definitely at least two schools that use Parkway, because there is Parkway Center City HS in Philadelphia. kennethaw88 • talk 06:59, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's late and your absolutely correct about the Philly schools. So assuming the name is correct at Parkway West High School, the correct article title should be Parkway West High School (Missouri). We only use city, state DAB when there are multiple schools of the same name in the same state. John from Idegon (talk) 07:09, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter to me how it's disambiguated, so by all means move it again. I'm just used to using the city and state, since it is fairly common for existing articles, even if they are over-precise. (See for example, West High School, which demonstrates a lack of consistent disambiguation. I'm not blaming anyone or demanding they get fixed, but that's the general trend I see: there isn't a lot of consistency). kennethaw88 • talk 17:48, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Old Hidalgo School
Good catch on the Old Hidalgo School picture. I may have taken a picture of the correct building as well, but I'll have to check through my archives. Otherwise next time I'm over there I'll swing through there. Thanks! 25or6to4 (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Kenneth, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh 666 22:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Italianate-architecture category at Commons
I've just uploaded some photos of an Italianate NRHP house in South Dakota to Commons. In the course of categorizing them, I discovered that last year, you moved the category "Italianate architecture in South Dakota" from "Architecture of South Dakota by style" to "Victorian architecture in South Dakota"; see diff.

I wonder whether this move was a good idea. It seems to me that it's making it more difficult for users to find the Italianate-architecture categories. In my case, at least, I looked at the architecture-by-style category, and was surprised not to see Italianate among the subcategories; I checked "Architecture of Nebraska by style", where I knew I'd populated an Italianate category, and didn't find it there either. It was only by typing "Italiante architecture..." into the search box that I discovered where it'd gone.

It also seems to me that "Victorian architecture" is more a temporal category than a stylistic one. Granted, certain styles were chiefly in vogue while Queen V was wielding the orb and scepter. However, should I win the lottery tomorrow and celebrate by commissioning myself an Italianate mansion, would it really be appropriate to call it Victorian?

I'd suggest restoring the Italianate categories directly to the by-style categories, without the intermediate Victorian category, both on grounds of user-friendliness and because the current arrangement seems to mix temporal and stylistic classifications. However, I assume that you had a good reason for your change, and it'd probably save work for both of us if we discuss it before I embark on a mass-revert campaign. Ammodramus (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I can't actually say why I did that. I wanted to say that the reason was because I saw that several Italianate categories were already in the Victorian categories, and I was trying to harmonize all the state categories. But it turns out they aren't harmonized, and all of the state categories are different. Some are below the Victorian, some are not, and some are both. At some point, I must have seen some Italianate category put under the Victorian category and then the idea stuck in my head. (Actually, as I typed this and checked some page histories, I realize I fell for Look2See1's nonsense) So really, I don't have any actual objection to removing the Victorian layer. But I think ultimately, each state category should be the same.


 * And I think your point about Victorian architecture being a temporal category is probably true. The Victorian architecture article is mostly a list of more specific styles that overlapped in time. So probably some of the other styles: Queen Anne, Stick style, (and even some Gothic categories), could be moved up to the by-style categories.


 * Thanks for looking at these carefully and critically. Sometimes I get annoyed at editors who just copy and paste things sloppily, but I have clearly done the same thing. Oops. kennethaw88 • talk 08:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Much of my photography for Commons involves getting shots of National Register of Historic Places sites; and in reading the NRHP nomination forms to get dates and architectural styles for houses, it seems like "Victorian" and "Queen Anne" are used somewhat interchangeably. The nom forms are often prepared by local historical societies, and I suspect that there's considerable variance in the background architectural knowledge of the preparers.


 * I think I'll post something about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places; some of the people there probably know architecture much better than I. If it does look like there's consensus on removing the Victorian layer, I'll make sure it gets done uniformly for all US states. Ammodramus (talk) 22:55, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

your edit on 06:21, 27 September
Kennethaw88 i think that the text removed is not copyrighted aka this and yes the text was a cut and past but i think it gave context to the photo (cur | prev) 06:21, 27 September 2017‎ Kennethaw88 (talk | contribs)‎. . (10,526 bytes) (-301)‎. . (removing copyrighted text) (undo | thank)
 * I found almost the same text on page 10 of the Union School nomination form. These nomination forms are in general not written by NPS employees, but instead by private parties, and so PD-USGov-NPS does not apply (WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/Resources). My limited understanding is that because that text was not paraphrased differently, but only had a couple of words changed, then it is a copyright violation. kennethaw88 • talk 00:20, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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NRHP disambiguation page updates
Hi, I noticed your editing on a few disambiguation pages I had created or edited, having places listed on the National Register, including this edit at John Brown House disambiguation page. First, thanks for taking an interest and for performing some good updates that were needed. Also, because it linked to some pages that I created, I noticed your creating Price House disambiguation page, which is a good catch. I worked on creating NRHP-related disambiguation pages for a long time, a long time ago. I think I or others would have created "Price House" but for the fact that there aren't two places named exactly "Price House" on the National Register, so it didn't show up in "disambiguation needed" reports. I appreciate that you appreciate the fact that multiple places named "John Price House" or "Price-Smith House" etc. are likely sometimes known simply as "Price House" and that a disambiguation page will likely be helpful. That was a pretty big one to catch!

In the few edits i looked at, you're doing a lot right, making a lot of calls that other arrivistes to the area have often gotten wrong, IMO. You're a long-time editor, I think i recognize your username. And I hope you will continue to be interested and perhaps review/update a lot more of the 4000+ NRHP disambiguation pages. However I would like to discuss a couple relatively minor issues, if you don't mind my making a few suggestions.

For one example, you've edited/created disambiguating phrases like listed on the NRHP which all show the same "listed on the NRHP" on a page, rather than showing "listed on the NRHP in Shelby County" or "NRHP-listed in Shelby County". I would prefer either of the latter, because the county name gives more info to the reader (and, while it varies a lot by state, sometimes readers are reasonably likely to know where the county is, in fact, and the county could help them be sure right away about the link) and because there's a principle that pipelinks are supposed to reveal / are not supposed to seem like they are hiding anything about where they'll go to. I think there's a policy or guideline or two about this for disambiguation pages that might be relevant. I like brevity too, but I prefer here to give a little more info to the reader/user.

Also I prefer to leave phrases like ", NRHP-listed in Shelby County" on items, for similar reason, rather than stripping those away altogether once an article has been created. IMO i think that readers are likely "get" the fact that an NRHP-listed place is a historic house or whatever, rather than a commercial hotel or whatever; the NRHP mention is brief and efficient in conveying a lot I think, and it conveys that notability is required. Having "NRHP-listed" next to most items helps dissuade addition of non-notable redlinks.

Could we discuss this here or somewhere else? There have been past discussions of this kind of stuff involving more editors at Talk page of WikiProject Disambiguation, which sometimes has been helpful and sometimes not so helpful. sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 21:40, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Picture Request
I will do these pictures when I go thru these counties for you. It might take a while. I didn't know this page existed, so I could have done these while in the area. Are there any other pages that might need pictures that I am unaware of? I see on your page you live in BC Ca. I am curious to know how you are involved with sites in MI. For the Frank Cooley house, it took a bit of research. I heavily research places before I put the pedal to the metal. That day, I spent researching places at the offices of the MSHPO. They do not update these sites. Folders have pictures taken with Polaroid, or B&W done with a Brownie Camera. They also don't have a clue about historic places that are no longer around. I went to a place up north and found out that Dollar General wanted the site as a parking lot and they demolished a historic structure.

Wingerham52 (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I have three courthouses for you. I don't know the particulars about them, so I am going to let you fill them in. I uploaded them in commons. Here they are: Lake County Courthouse-Michigan.jpg (file), Oceana County Courthouse.jpg (file), Newago County Courthouse.jpg (file)

I will work on the others when I get in the area.

The Frank Cooley house is an interesting story. There is a huge modern home at it's registered address. I was talking to the owner of a local coffee shop and he told me it was moved several miles and I found it based on his information. It was in progress of being set on a new foundation. I don't know if you are familiar with Mackinaw City, where it was located. All the businesses in the whole city are owned by one person. And he is the one who moved it and built this mansion in its place. He has a good view of the bridge.

Wingerham52 (talk) 21:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Kirazuri
Hello, I noticed your edit on Draft:Kirazuri, but areou aware we already have Kirazuri as an article? --Omotecho (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't really pay attention to whether or not drafts correspond to real articles or not; I just periodically try to work on Category:CS1 errors: dates, which includes draft articles. Separately, it looks like the draft was created (and my edit occurred) before the new article was created, so your question seems irrelevant. kennethaw88 • talk 18:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the article was created after your correction on Draft; my imagination was wrong you were watching pages you have checked. Anyway, that draft has been redirected. Respectful to somebody taking care of date errors with CS1, I remain. Omotecho (talk) 20:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hello. Please use edit summaries that are descriptive of the edit you made. Currently all your edit summaries say "Other is not a style", which is not helpful in letting other editors know the intention of your edit. Thank you. 2806:108E:2:8B0A:21DA:BBB:6819:D66B (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Knox County Courthouse
I normally agree with moving courthouses to only be disambiguated by their state, but Knox County Courthouse (Knoxville, Illinois) is a special case. There are two notable courthouses in Knox County, Illinois; the current Knox County Courthouse in Galesburg, which was built in 1887 and is part of the Galesburg Historic District, and the former courthouse in Knoxville. Both courthouses are notable, and while the Galesburg courthouse doesn't have an article yet, it's arguably the more prominent one since it's the current courthouse. Since the article has already been moved back and forth a few times, I don't want to move it back unilaterally, but I'm hoping I can convince you to undo the move. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 18:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course. I agree with you about the naming conventions. For all of the recent moves, I have just been checking whether the pages have been disambiguated for good reason, or just because of some editors' naming preferences. In this case, I didn't see that there was indeed another courthouse. I'll leave a hatnote to make it clear there is a current courthouse in Galesburg. kennethaw88 • talk 20:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Campbell County, Kentucky courthouse edit
Howdy! I saw your edit for standardized naming of the Campbell County, Kentucky courthouse and I thought you should know that Campbell is one of two Kentucky counties with two seats (I'm a native Kentuckian and grew up very close to Campbell County). One is in Newport and the other is in Alexandria. Kenton County--adjacent to Campbell--also has two county seats: Covington and Independence. I have no idea what the standardized naming is for counties with two seats, so I look forward to what you do. Have a great day. Spacini (talk) 17:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Good to know. In the cases where there are county courthouses in different cities in the same county, the standard is to use (City, State) in the article names. So for Campbell County, for example, the courthouses would be at Campbell County Courthouse (Newport, Kentucky) and Campbell County Courthouse (Alexandria, Kentucky). I'll make the changes to the Campbell county links, and one additional link to Kenton County Courthouse.
 * If you've got some spare time, you can check out this discussion, where the multiple-county-seat issue is brought up (It's on the National Register of Historic Places talk page, but it doesn't really need to be specific to NRHP pages). kennethaw88 • talk 23:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. Spacini (talk) 17:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

New Kansas courthouse article(s)
I took a stab at writing my first Kansas courthouse article. Please take a look at your convenience. I would love to have your feedback. Should I keep going or let others who are more experienced in the courthouse histories write them? Please remember, I'm an old school Wikipedian and believe in the BE BOLD mantra of creating worthy start or even stub articles. Many thanks. Spacini (talk) 17:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me; it has at least as much information as many other similar articles. (Disclaimer, though, I don't really work a lot in new articles. I mostly just do clean-up tasks.) I would say absolutely keep going. There really aren't that many other editors who write these articles, especially if they aren't already on some historical list. And most of those editors stick to their own favorite states. So places like Kansas (and my own favorite, Oklahoma) could use as many article creators as possible. kennethaw88 • talk 00:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)]]
 * I greatly appreciate your response, kind words, and your encouragement. BE BOLD! Spacini (talk) 22:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Please don't collapse citations
As you just did at New York & Pennsylvania Railroad. Makes information less readable. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 13:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I remember reading somewhere that generally, inline templates are written inline (something along the lines of this: if the template is used inline, it should be written inline; if it makes a block, it can be written multiline, but not necessarily that particular comment). But of course that was just a rule of thumb and more an observation, not policy, though in my observations, it's true. But Citation templates does say editors should not ... change an article with a consistent citation format (and I assume that extends to the wikitext), so I will no longer collapse citation syntax when it is consistent across the article. But there are of course many articles where it isn't consistent, and I won't promise not to collapse those. The text being less readable is pretty subjective, and I personally feel like the other way breaks up paragraphs and takes up too much whitespace. kennethaw88 • talk 03:49, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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Arthur Dillon (1750–1794)
Dear Kennethaw88. I thank you for your recent corrections on the article Arthur Dillon (1750–1794), especially the fixing of the typo Univerity -> University, but why do you replace ->  ? I thought Wikipedia is using HTML5, which prefers  even if it also accepts   and , which were obligatory under XHTML? With best regards (and in awe of your edit count in excess of 40000), Johannes Schade (talk) 17:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I use this syntax highlighter for the edit window. Whenever there are un-closed tags, including , or   , or even mis-matched tags like it messes up the highlighting for the whole page. See also Help:Line-break handling. Of course, as you say, using one of the other has no impact on the rendered page, but using the closed form is a bit of a courtesy to people like me. Because this is really a cosmetic issue for the syntax, I don't make edits just to change these, but I do change them incidentally when making a real edit. kennethaw88 • talk 17:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear Kennethaw88. Thanks for your answer. I understand. I suppose you know that there are other highlighters that do not require XHTML. Best regards Johannes Schade (talk)

Please don't collapse citations
I would much appreciats it if you would stop turning citations like


 * title=Town to Unveil Sojourner Truth Statue
 * date=September 16, 2013
 * publisher=Mindful Walker
 * url=http://www.mindfulwalker.com/beyond-gotham/town-to-unveil-sojourner-truth-statue
 * accessdate=January 4, 2019

into

cite web|title=Town to Unveil Sojourner Truth Statue|date=September 16, 2013|publisher=Mindful Walker|url=http://www.mindfulwalker.com/beyond-gotham/town-to-unveil-sojourner-truth-statue|accessdate=August 22, 2020

It makes them harder to edit if necessary. If anything is accomplished by this, or it follows some style guideline I'm unaware of, please enlighten me. deisenbe (talk) 22:07, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It accomplishes making it easier to distinguish the table syntax and citation parameters, which makes the table easier to read. Why leave them conflated like that? kennethaw88 • talk 22:14, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Reply:
Hey I’m not seeing what you edit but thanks if you did me a favor JabrielAtOmoMusicGroup (talk) 00:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi,, on the page Draft:Lil Kei, I did two things. First, I changed the format of the dates in the citation, for example from 08/26/2020 to 2020-08-26. That way it complies with Wikipedia's Manual of Style for dates (MOS:DATE). Also, I changed a date from the year 2030 to the current date (2020-09-05), which is when you actually read the source online. Second, I added a References section so that the reference will display in the proper location on the page. See Help:Footnotes. I hope that helps. kennethaw88 • talk 00:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much I really appreciate you a lot for that! JabrielAtOmoMusicGroup (talk) 00:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey Kenneth, thanks again! will I have to prove my client with pdf docs from station? The person guy who aired my client no longer works for the radio station. My client never made the charts which he was truthful to me about, he stated he personally knew him which should give us a go because the song was aired. At the moment I haven’t responded with my client because I know this will take me time and he’s not going to bug me about it lol! Thanks for everything, Jabriel! JabrielAtOmoMusicGroup (talk) 11:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't typically work with writing new articles, and I don't really know what it would take to get an article like this approved. But I think the most important advice is to read WP:NMUSICIAN, especially the first point about independent, reliable sources. kennethaw88 • talk 22:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)