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Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton
You said at User talk:SwisterTwister that you had tried to create an article about this person but "found a message that that page has been blocked by the administrator". What was the exact title of the page you tried to create? I looked at Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton but there has never been an article at that title, and it is not "salted" (protected against creation). It would help to know what were the problems that led to your title being protected, so that you could be advised how to overcome them. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Colton article
Now I understand the problem. The blacklist is a filter to prevent creation of types of articles which have proved troublesome. One of the things it is set to bock is anything containing the string "colton". I don't know the reason, but there is an admin by that name; not infrequently admins become a target for harassment by vandals, and I guess that happened here.

So, as you are evidently not here to harass my colleague I will happily create the page for you. However, as you are new to this, I suggest you start by creating a draft article in a "user sub-page" at User:LauraRenee360/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton which I have already created for you - just click on that to edit it. There is a link at the top to some useful advice, and a "submit" button which, when you are ready, will send it to WP:Articles for creation where an experienced user will check it and either accept it or give you feedback. If there is trouble with the blacklist filter at that point, let me know and I will sort it out.

Some useful reading:
 * WP:Your first article
 * WP:Writing better articles
 * will help find references.

One last point: when you leave a message on a talk page, it helps to see who said what when if you sign your post by ending it with a group of four "tilde" characters  which the system will turn into a "signature" of your username and the time and date, like this: JohnCD (talk) 21:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi! I see you are requesting adoption and so would like to offer to adopt you. Myself and my replacement/assistant, RexRowan have an adoption school, which can teach you all the basics of Wikipedia. We believe the adoption course is a great beginning to your Wikipedia life and User talk:RexRowan, who has completed the course himself, will happily tell you how useful the course was.

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Should you be interested in getting adopted, please read this Code of Honour, then return here and press the button below, filling in USERNAME with your username with out the User: prefix. This questionnaire gives me an insight into you and allows me to adjust the course should I need to, so please fill it in.

Also, please drop a line to say you are interested either below this message or on my talk page at User talk:Adam mugliston.

Thanks,

Adam Mugliston Talk

RexRowan Talk  09:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Laura. I've moved your page to User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Entry/LauraRenee360. It shouldn't be put in the article space, which is for ... well.. articles! It's a simple enough mistake to make, but I'll have poke of Adam and RexRowan so that they don't keep letting people in for that mistake.  Worm TT( talk ) 18:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Help request
I am currenly working on this page as a subpage and would like some help moving it to my first Wikipage. Please give me any feedback that will help me achieve this goal... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:LauraRoach360/this_is_my_subpage&pe=1& "Laura R. Roach 22:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)"
 * Just to help out, it's been moved to User:LauraRenee360/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton  Worm TT( talk ) 22:49, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I will leave the "helpme" request, because I do not have time to look at your draft in detail at the moment. Two points:
 * You created it at the wrong title, because there is no "User:LauraRoach360". So I have moved it to User:LauraRenee360/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton, the title I suggested above, which (a) gets your username right, so that it is a sub-page in your user space, and (b) uses the proposed article title, which will make it easier to submit it to WP:Articles for creation (using the "Submit" button at the top) when it is ready.
 * It needs to cite references to reliable sources to confirm what it says - see WP:Verifiability. WP:Citing sources explains how to add them, but if you have problems with that, just list them at the bottom of the page and ask for help.
 * A minor point of technique: to provide a reference to another Wikipedia page, you do not need to give the full "http:en.wikipedia.org" URL - just type the name of the page within double square brackets. To link to your draft, writing  User:LauraRenee360/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton  produces User:LauraRenee360/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton, which works as a wikilink.
 * The easiest way to sign contributions on talk pages is to end them with a group of four "tilde" characters, which the system will turn into a signature of your username plus the date and time, like this: JohnCD (talk) 22:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Laura, I've taken a look at your article about Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton. Before we can move it to the mainspace, we really need to establish notability through significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. Take a look at that link, as well as WP:ARTIST. If notability can be established through the WP:ARTIST link, we would simply need sources to support the claims made. If you need more help or have questions, please feel free to contact me. Welcome to Wikipedia! Best regards,

Worm---the leader of my learning community
After my adopted Wickepedian abondoned me earlier this morning; WormTT adopted me. He we communicate well and he is coaching me through my first time as a Wickepedia member. I am glad that he has taken on the wonders of being my mentor though this experience. He sees my vision for this article and has embraced me as a member of the Wickipedia family.

Worm has adopted meI have choosen him as my mentor---and he has choosen me as his adopted pupil.

Worm is 'the choosen one' (Laura R. Roach 00:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC))


 * Congratulations Laura, excellent choice! Worm is the chosen one! -- RexRowan  Talk  09:40, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ... and he's a touch busy ;) Laura, I see you've done exceptionally well on here. I'm willing to help out as much as I can, but I don't think I'll be able to take you on as a formal adoptee. I've already got 9 or 10 at the moment, and I try not to go above 3! Still, I see you've found some excellent content creators and people I've worked with on the encyclopedia in the past, Anna, Pam and Cindy, will all definitely steer you in the right direction. Girl Power!  Worm TT( talk ) 09:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Stub
I have been working on my article for many hours and hours and hours; and need to do some further revising & rephrasing---tomorrow. As well, as citations.

But...as I lay down to sleep and dream dreams of Wickepedia...I wonder... What if it is a stub ?

I do not want my article to be called a stub

How can I avoid my learning village pointing at my article and calling it a stub ?


 * There is nothing derogatory about "stub" - see WP:Stub. It says to the reader that there is more to be said about this subject, and perhaps encourages them to help develop it; and it puts the article in lists where people looking for something to work on may pick it up. I have often added a stub template myself where, for instance, I have rescued from the speedy deletion queue a short article about somebody who is evidently notable, have tidied up a little and added a reference or two, but have no wish, or no time, to do more.


 * However, I think your draft is already past the "stub" stage. After it "goes public", it is possible that another editor might add a "stub" template: in that case, the thing to do would be to ask them, either on their talk page or on the article talk page, what they think the article would need to bring it out of "stub" status.


 * There is a useful guide to how Wikipedia works at WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. In brief, if you see a change you think would improve the encyclopedia, be BOLD and make it; if it is reverted, do not just make it again (which might start an edit war); discuss it on the article talk page and try to reach WP:Consensus with other users. Failing consensus, there are WP:Dispute resolution processes.


 * One last point: it is natural for you to think of this as your article, and as a draft in your user space it still is; but once it goes live, it is an important principle that nobody "owns" a Wikipedia article - see WP:Ownership of articles. It will become Wikipedia's article, and others can and will edit it. That is how all the best articles develop. If you look at the history of any well-developed article, such at this one picked at random from the featured articles list, you will see contributions from many different users. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:44, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you JohnCD, for the "ownership" tip that is some really good advice that should be posted more places in the 'training'. As their are lots of people that have more information on Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton then I; my hope is that I can add enough references and catagories that others are inspired to take 'ownership' of this page. I just want to create a good skeleton for others to flesh-out, per se....but ....yes...that 'ownership' tip was good advice.

I included all the links, references and catergories to make it easier for a make experienced Wikipedian to improve. In adddition, my goal is to get MRFC reconized as an important women in the American Art community the references list is going to make a grad student very very happy one day !

Once I get this article completed I am a hop-skip and a jump away from graduation and grad school--thanks for all your help in compeleting this last semester of senoir year project.

People are more then welcome to debate how this 'story of MRFC' is worded The time consuming and tedious part of this journey is finding and citing the references, links and other sources. That is my focus---

I do not own this page and am more then happy to share it with the Wickipedia Community.

(Laura R. Roach 14:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC))

Redlinks
Hi Laura, I noticed your plea on Worm's talk page about redlinks.

Firstly, though: Please always sign anything you add to any talk page: either type ~ or use the "sign" button on the editing bar. That then provided a link to you and your talk page, which makes it easier for people to reply, as well as clarifying the talk page by showing who is writing what, and when. Thanks.

About the redlinks: The Philadelphia Ten shows as a redlink because the article title is "Philadelphia Ten" without the "The". Every last letter, every difference between upper case and lower case, makes a difference in links and can lead to something not being found. There are three ways round this: one is to change the link so that it matches the article title. I've done this to your draft; secondly, we could "pipe" the link so that what is displayed is not the same as where the link actually goes: The Philadelphia Ten : appears as the latter, links to the former; third, if you think "The Philadelphia Ten" is a term which is likely to be used for searching, we could make a "redirect" from that term. In fact I'll do that. ... Done. So I needn't have changed the link, in hindsight.

Anyway, I hope that little lot helps you to understand a bit more about links and how Wikipedia articles connect to each other! I'll leave it to you to sort out the other red links, now you know a bit more about it all. Welcome to Wikipedia and Happy Editing. Pam D  08:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that Pam --it makes a alot of sense now (Laura R. Roach 14:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC))

More on redlinks
I've just had a look at Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton and fixed another couple of redlinks. Two techniques:


 * 1) If something is a red link and you're surprised that the thing concerned hasn't got a Wikipedia article, search around with a bit of imagination to see if there is an article at a slightly different title. In the case of American Federation of the Arts, it turns out that the "the" shouldn't be there, and I've linked to the existing article at American Federation of Arts.
 * 2) If it's still a red link and you think it shouldn't be ... go ahead and create the new article. I got interested in National Association of Women Painters and Sculptures (yes, that's what you'd typed, though look at the last word ....), and by googling around established that National Association of Women Painters and Sculptors was an old name for the National Association of Women Artists, which didn't have a Wikipedia article an hour ago but does have one now, with redirects from the earlier title and also Women's Art Club, its first title.

Mind you, that's how time disappears... I've a load of stuff I promised myself I'd get done this morning, and now I've created a WP stub for an American arts group instead! Happy editing. Pam D  11:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * And then I got interested in Indian Arts and Crafts Board and have created a stub for it, so that's another of M-RFC's redlinks gone blue ... and Mother gets home from her day-centre in two and a half hours and I've spent most of my precious "having the house to myself" day playing around on Wikipedia. Ah well. (nb: It's Wikipedia, not Wickipedia!). Pam  D  12:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

To paste at the top of your article
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Anna for helping Mary-Russell Ferrel Colton be reconized for her contributions to Art and Science. As women we all know how it feels to not be reconized.

(Laura R. Roach 16:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC))


 * You're most welcome. I didn't know which infobox to use or what to put in the field, so I stole it from Leonardo Da Vinci. :) You can modify it any way you like. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help Wikipedia Volunteers
I have submitted my 'complete' version of the Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton Wickipedia page.

There are 170 articles in line before mine.... This is my very 1st article--I am hoping that the people who judge these things are kind to my novice atttempt. If any of you would like to take a look at this 'final' version and let me know if there is a reason it would not be excepted....please feel free to tell me or edit it.

Once I got into it this project was actually a loads of fun and I hope it inspires people to appreciate Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton as the treasures of her legacy.

Thanks again, Wickipedia Volunteers you are all AWESOME ! I could not have done it without all of your love and support in the process.

A special thanks to Worn that Turns for adopting me...

If this were approved by my birthday that would be an awesome birthday present.



(Laura R. Roach 19:05, 12 August 2012 (UTC))

Another move for the Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton Article

 * 1) REDIRECT Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mary-Russell Ferrell Colton

Mary...has moved...thought I'd let you know...currenlty there are 711 pages waiting in-line ahead of my article.You still have plenty of time to make suggestions and edits.

(Laura R. Roach 20:16, 12 August 2012 (UTC))
 * I know you want to get this published. You've done a great job and should be proud of your work. I would be happy to move the article to the mainspace. You can continue to work on it there. Let me know your thoughts. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk to me ) 20:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Cindy thank you for your kind words, I worked very hard on the citing and the references to address the issue you raised. And had a grand time with the project. If you move my article could you please give me the link where it has been moved to...thanks, again for your suggestions. I did pay attention and carefully cite things and included LOTS of references.

(Laura R. Roach 21:04, 12 August 2012 (UTC))

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Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or  located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way Laura, one of our signature guidelines is that the signature should link to your talk page or userpage. Why don't you paste the following into your signature preferences (under My Preferences at the top of the page)

Laura R. Roach
 * Hope that helps!  Worm TT( talk ) 09:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Regarding adoption
Hi LauraRenee360. I notice you've put a "request for adoption" template on your userpage. I've removed the "request for adoption" from your userpage because you've not edited recently. / been offered adoption. Given the number of users starting on the encyclopedia each day and the number who look for adoption, there can often be a backlog when just displaying the request. You are much more likely to find an adopter if you are pro-active about it, perhaps asking an editor or two from the list of adopters if they would consider adopting you? Good luck in finding someone to help out. Worm TT( talk ) 09:48, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

I can adopt you if you still want. Happy Editing! Libertarian&#61;Truth? (talk) 23:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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