User talk:LiquidGhoul/Archive 1

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requested moves
When requesting moves, please create a place of discussion on the talk page of the article you wish to move, as instructed at WP:RM. People can't vote or discuss the move unless this is done.—jiy (talk) 07:58, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Frog articles
Hi, if you could email me, then I can then send the articles to you. I will try and help out with the lead section.--nixie 10:39, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Australian Aboriginal flag is the current ACOTF
Hi. You voted for Australian Aboriginal flag to be selected as Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has now been selected. Please improve it in any way you see fit. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 13:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

White's tree frog
Hi, I've had a go at editing the article. I thought a few points could be clarified, you should be able to see my queries in this diff. I think you should also ask someone else to copyedit the article, User:Wayward is a great copyeditor. --nixie 10:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I have fixed two of the points you raised, but cannot do the natural lifespan. I don't think anyone has researched it, and it would be very hard to research as you cannot collar them (as is normally done in these studies), and chipping them would mean you would have to find them again (not easy when they are in the wild). Thanks for your edits. --liquidGhoul 02:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

My intentions with the "Conservation status" edit was to remove this statement: "there is still concern". That statement is someone's opinion so it should be referenced. I re-worded it with the factors laid out so that the reader can come to this opinion without the writer telling them it is so. Please consider this for a future revision. Good luck with the FAC, the article has come a long way in a short time. It certainly is worthy of feature article consideration. --maclean25 07:22, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Unblocked
Hi, I've unblocked the IP you asked me to unblock. The IP was blocked for repeated vandalism and edits of a malicious personal nature. I realise these edits may have been made by somebody other than yourself, but this person seems prone to disruptive behaviour, and will probably be blocked again - if not by me, by some other administrator. I recommend that you continue editing under your registered name, and not as an anonymos IP, so that your useful edits can be judged separately from whatever vandalism is done out of your IP. As for my email address, for personal reasons I would rather it not be linked to wikipedia. I apologize for this. But you can email any other sysop and ask them to unblock you: direct their attention to this comment on your talk page. --Woggly 09:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, blocking the IP will block you from editing from that IP even if you are a registered user. I'm just saying you should always edit as a register user, so as to build up your identity and reputation: that way admins will be more likely to unblock you if you have been blocked as the side-effect of an IP block. --Woggly 11:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

grammar
'have led to it becoming' is ungrammatical. You've reverted what was a much better sentence. Why? Tony 12:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

If I allowed 'due to' in an editing job, my colleagues would change it to 'because'. If you don't like that word at the start of a paragraph, why not reverse the order of the clauses. I have no problem starting with 'Because' in this register. Tony 14:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * IMO, nothing wrong with "due to," but "it becoming" should be "its becoming," as the gerund takes the possessive. (Business writing doesn't like "due," but this is a high social register, and it is international, so "due" should be as welcome as the subjunctive.)  Geogre 22:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

White's tree frog FA
Well done on the FA, I hope there are a lot more just like it to come. Giano | talk 07:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

future tense in frog
I notice many instances where future should be present. Tony 02:58, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Superb Fairy-wren
I've voted in support of your Fairy-wren image--it's fantastic! I was just wondering what edits, specifically, you made to the image before uploading it. Did you crop it at all? If it was anything significant, I think it'd be great to upload the original to the Commons. Thanks! &#126; MDD4696 (talk &bull; contribs) 01:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Diligence appreciated
Thanks for staying on me about supplying the scientific name for Green frog, I enjoy making new stubs and articles and its always satisfying to find fellow wikipedians who are dedicated to perfecting the entries. Grika &#x24C9; 02:05, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Litoria chloris
Sorry about that revert, no idea what I was doing. I'll try and be more careful in future :-)
 * dr.alf 12:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Featured Picture
Congratulations, and thanks for taking it for us. Raven4x4x 10:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

My edits of frog and your Frog_adaptations
I didn't realise that some of my recent edits of Frog are very similar to your frog adaptation work in progress. Please have a look - some of it may be useful for your article. - Samsara 15:31, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Responding to your msg on my talk page: As I already mentioned on the frog talk page, there is a textbook online about developmental biology. It is a bit difficult to navigate. I haven't quite figured it out yet... This is a link to a page in the book with some nice pictures (not that we could use them without asking!) Link. - Samsara 12:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

WTF
Nice to see it on the main page today. Congratulations. Giano | talk 09:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:L caerulea2.jpg
Beautiful image! I love it. Could you please upload it at commons? I'd like to use it in the German Wikipedia. Best regards Stern 21:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Another Featured Picture
Congratulations, and thankyou for taking it for us. Raven4x4x 07:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Maintenance of AID
Hi there,

I see you have been updating votes on AID nominations. Maybe you will be interested in my proposal to coordinate such maintenance work on AID: Article_Improvement_Drive/Maintenance. --Dijxtra 12:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

User:LiquidGhoul/Frog_adaptations
I really like your work on that page. The main article now probably has space for that material, after removing the "frogs in pop culture" bits. If you want to merge it in, we should probably try and do it before the big AID onslaught, what do you think? I'll do it, actually, if you give me permission. - Samsara contrib talk 23:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

User:LiquidGhoul/Frog_gallery_experimenting
In addition to my edit of the above page, you could probably tweak the sizes of the different elements to close the gap that now exists. I think that's done by specifying a size, like 190px to 250px, instead of "thumb". Best wishes, Samsara contrib talk 23:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I've just tried again, using a tag found on the featured image candidates page. You'll see that it stops the conflict between horizontal and vertical galleries. Best, Samsara contrib talk 22:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Emerson and Diehl 1980
Can you give us that reference and any others I may have overlooked in User:LiquidGhoul/Frog_adaptations? Many thanks,

Samsara contrib talk 20:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * You also cite "Daly" - can you give that one? Thanks, Samsara contrib talk 01:46, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge
I have already merged frog adaptations and frog. --liquidGhoul 01:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike. ;) - Samsara contrib talk 01:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Described vs. Known?
Could you explain to me the difference between a 'described' species and a 'known' species? I don't doubt that there's a difference, but it seems a strange term to use ... Phil Bordelon 04:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clear explanation. My eyes are opened.  Sorry about the edits!  Well, not the grammar ones ... ;) Phil Bordelon 04:54, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The frog in the pool
F.Y.I. The frog was removed from the pool right as it was being quickly photographed. It or one of the same species has repeatedly jumped into my suburban swimming pool and we have had to atttempt to remove it as it swam through the chlorinated water. I will admit it is not in line with the rest of the pictures on the article and I am going to of course also de-list it from the featured picture candidates page. I added the picture not so much to show the frog, but I thought it would help illustrate the effects urban sprawl has had on frogs. I am offended to be accused of animal cruelty. I have saved dozens of baby turtles that also have "suddenly appeared" in our pool over the years so that they might have a chance to live. I did not "sit around and take pictures of it." One person removed it right as I took a photo of it. Urban sprawl has had serious affects on frogs and I hope you can find a better picture to add to illustrate this very important issue. I am a strong supporter of the ASPCA. The color is actually quite accurate though. Have a nice day, and good luck with this article. ¡Dustimagic! ( T / C ) 04:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. Photography really isn't my specialty anyway. Have a nice day. ¡Dustimagic!  ( T / C ) 06:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Picture placement change
When I look at the article tree frog the images made a big hole in the text, when all three images were placed at the same spot. Isfisk 13:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

It's probably something to do with my configuration. I won't change anymore images. Promise. I use explorer. Isfisk 21:51, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Frog gallery
If the pictures were 2/3 of their current size on your experimental gallery, I think they would be just about perfect. - Samsara contrib talk 16:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Frog FPC
The nomination period for the has ended, and I'm afraid the larger version came too late. You said that you might nominate the larger version again, so you can do so from now onwards I suppose. Raven4x4x 10:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Lifting the barrier to 4 votes per week on WP:AID
There is currently a vote going on whethwr to lift the barrier to 4 votes per week on WP:AID. Since you help maintain the project, maybe you would wish to vote. --Dijxtra 11:34, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Tuatara on peer review
Hi Evan,

I've listed tuatara on peer review, if you would like to comment, I'd be most grateful to hear your ideas: Peer review/Tuatara/archive1.

Best wishes,

Samsara contrib talk 19:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Snail picture
Hi, sorry but I don't have any larger version of that grapevine snail-image. In fact I just copied it from the German wikipedia. Maybe you can find the original photographer there. --ML 12:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Snail FPC

 * "I agree with you, in that I don't particularly like these gigantic images."


 * At least we agree on that point then. Perhaps the shell could get a little more detail in a higher resolution. Could you add the reasoning for asking for a higher resolution when you do so next time? That way everyone understands why you're asking and people like myself won't mistake you for a high-res obsessed person. :) I'll go and scrap a few comments now. - Mgm|(talk) 10:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added a note to the FPC now. - Mgm|(talk) 10:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you too for remaining level-headed and civil. Have a flower. - Mgm|(talk) 10:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

FAC Frog: yes!
Please, let's do it. - Samsara contrib talk 11:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've done my first edit. Over to you! I'll contact Pstevendactylus - who else? Joyous and Lejean? - Samsara contrib talk 11:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you think it's okay to mention their names in the nomination (see the nomination), even though they're not around to comment on it? I'd like to get this finished, too! - Samsara contrib talk 11:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

African Clawed Frog Photo
I've gotten unblocked again a bit quicker this time. Xenopus laevis isn't a partiularly colourful frog and the hues of the photo are distracting in the original photo. The black and white works much better to illustrate the frog. I've a similar photo at Image:African Clawed Frog.JPG in colour, and both frogs have the same colouration. Pengo 12:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

request
Hello, i am one of the many admirers of your animal photos, do u think u will have time and opportunity to shoot a dung beetle? the current photos of the insect is not very satisfactory... --K.C. Tang 12:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * lovely. Wish u all succcess! :-) --K.C. Tang 14:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * high quality! but did u have chance to see these gourmets rolling their delicacies? (man, am i being fussy!) :)--K.C. Tang 01:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * one more fussy request: could u identify the species? --K.C. Tang 03:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * insects suck u! sorry to hear that :(, how about birds? i love your wren pic so much :)--K.C. Tang 04:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * thanks for ur great photos in any case! the dung beetle article is now messy, i hope i will have time to clean it up before putting ur photo on it... btw, do u know much about Philautus romeri? --K.C. Tang 00:18, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * i want to write about it, u know. "Romer's Tree Frog (Philautus romeri) is the smallest amphibian among the frog and toad species recorded in Hong Kong. Its average body length is from 1.5 cm to 2 cm..." just want to know if there is any known species smaller than it in the world (it already seems to me very small, but then i don't know much about frog). --K.C. Tang 01:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * it's my ignorance again, after looking some information i now know that tiny frogs are everywhere!--K.C. Tang 03:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Cliviaminiata.jpg
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Gastric-brooding Frog
I just translated this article from German. Maybe you would be so kind as to check whether the taxobox can be moved as is - I think you have some experience of this. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 11:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Caravans in rainforests and Rheobatrachus
The same thought occurred to me. There are plenty of examples of missing species being rediscovered. I'm mostly surprised that nobody had an interest or succeeded in breeding them in captivity. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * If you think about it another way, it's not really that surprising: a species that is difficult to find in the first case might be expected to be close to extinction... User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 14:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats
Yes, well done! :) - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 11:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the capitalization thing
I was just reading the policy when your message arrived. I'd have to say that I think Wikipedia is falling a bit outside of the mainstream with that choice, but if that is what has been settled then I'll abide by it.

Frog pics for LiquidGhoul
I just uploaded a Rhinophrynid pic for your families table. The picture isn't the best, but there's only one species in the family, and they only come out of the ground for a couple days a year. I was happy to just see this thing. They're wierd fat little frogs, though.

I do have pictures of Ascaphus (tailed frogs in the family Ascaphidae), but they're poor quality, and they're slides that I'd have to dig up and scan. I can do this, but not soon. I'm in the forest next week and I'll try to grab a couple photos of come glass frogs (Centrolenids).

As for other help, I know that there's Brachycephalid pics on the Brachycephalidae page.

By the way, here's a "Potentially Aposematic Tadpole Award" for the good work on Frog.

Romer
Man, i'm thinking of shooting the tiny creature all the day! i can't promise, though... not really an easy job... and there seems to be no public display... i'll try, anyway... btw, how many frogs do u keep? --K.C. Tang 22:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Good luck with your new creatures too! That sounds a truly meaningful undertaking. but i heard that taking care of frog takes much time, isn't it? (and u r still studying, right?) :) --K.C. Tang 04:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * the creature seems to have another name besides Philautus romeri (see here), i'm confused, could u help me figure it out? thanks a lot. :) --K.C. Tang 00:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * btw, i've seperate the Dung beetle from the Scarab beetle, and have put your high-quality pic on the latter article, hope you won't mind. :) --K.C. Tang 00:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * i use that site too, the site is really great, man. All the taxons are there! indeed i've added a footnote about the classification in the article, but i'm not sure one should use the old or the new name in the taxbox, what is the common practice?--K.C. Tang 13:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * thanks a lot! i've expanded and revised the article, hope u can go through it when u have time...:) btw, do u think the dart frog article has the potential to be a featured one? the subject is really fascianting...--K.C. Tang 14:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Tuatara anti-vandal
Thanks for taking care of tuatara while I wasn't looking. Seems like Pstevendactylus is also interested in that article. Maybe we can tackle this as a team. I should check the National Library for copies of the book references - my uni library doesn't have them... - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 00:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking, though! Yes, I guess I'll start with the general references. Web of Science has not yielded the answers I was looking for, at least so far. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 02:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Cuban Tree Frog
Thanks for the note. I should have done a bit more checking before that move. Capitalizing a common name like that looks odd to me, but it does seem to be in line with WP convention, in the case of species common names. In any event I've put it back. NTK 04:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Featured and protected?
Following on from your comment about the vandalism that occurred to White's Tree Frog when it was featured on the main page, I was wondering whether it would be beneficial to semi-protect or even protect articles on the main page. What do you think? - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 11:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I've just read much of the discussion, including the cited diffs, and all I can say is that I can't take a day off work for this. Perhaps the solution is to permanently display articles in diff mode, like it's done in word processor version control. So you would be simultaneously seeing the version of the very early morning of the FA day, and the current version. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

There's a link on my talk page (or a recent archive) that explains why FAs are not to be protected. I disagree, but I'm not going to argue it. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah! Here it is... User:Raul654/protection - UtherSRG (talk) 13:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Frog
Hi LiquidGhoul, Sorry if I've made you a little impatient, but I've been trying to find ID's at a herptology site I know. However, nothing has turned up yet. I don't have any other pix of the frog, as it jumped away as soon as I took it. A little info if you want; taken in East Gippsland Victoria Australia in a low creek. --Fir0002 style="color:#C6CACC; background:#F8FCFF">www 05:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Computer generated FPC
Isn't that "pouring thing" a pitcher? ;-) Greetings, and thanks for your contributions - I think your Fairy-wren is one of the all-time best FPs! What a sourpuss! --Janke | Talk 09:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

images
Images can't e moved or renamed, only deleted. So I deleted it. Go ahead and upoad your other images to commons so they can be used anywhere. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)