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WikiProject Java and Portal
I recently posted the following text on Wikipedia regarding the creation of a new computing-related project in Wikipedia:

'WikiProject Java is a Wikipedian community that aims to better organize information in articles related to the Java programming language and its platform.
 * If I'm cor-rec-to, there are about 900 articles on Java technology in Wikipedia, which may be more than ALL other programming languages articles combined...
 * At least, it's more than for C++, and there IS a C++ WikiProject...
 * And it's MUCH more than the .NET WikiProject with 82 articles...
 * There is also a Python project and a Ruby project so...
 * Now you can also see a proposal for the Java Portal (temp location).'

Please  support this initiative, AlainR345 TechnoWikiGeek 08:34, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Andrew, and thanks for your involvment in this project. I see you edited WikiProject_Java/List_of_articles and that's certainly welcomed. But I would suspect you could be qualified to do more interesting edits. If you take a look at WikiProject_Java/Things_you_can_do, you've got a good idea of where we are right now, as a fairly new project: for instance, Intelligentsium has polished the Portal:Java I created last year, and VK is addressing the WikiProject_Java/List_of_articles_uncategorized issue; I'm currently trying to fix problems reported in the WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing.
 * If you've got AutoWikiBrowser privileges, the Java BIGTOP tagging operation would be ideal for you. If not, I would suggest you begin with WikiProject_Java/New_articles: there are 2 things to do: a) evaluate the suggestions given by AlexNewArtBot as for new Java articles; for instance I would say Aspire and ESP are no good (as far as Java is concerned) and the others could be; and b) therefore you plunge into SchemaCrawler, ZooKeeper, maybe Ehcp plus the Currents (MSA, Roo, TopBT) and try to fix them to some sort of Wikipedia 'norm' (that is, check their Category:, correct mistakes, add sufficient 'meat', divide into sections, research references, etc. and last but not least put the  tag in the ==See also== section and the  banner in their talk page). Either way, please put your (ADK,ongoing) initials in place of the relevant (PYNHAGFIP) in Things_you_can_do. Our aim is to fix all those little issues first and then we will be on a cruising course, doing what all other projects do these days I guess, which is to improve the quality rating of the project's articles (as reported here). Don't hesitate to ask any question below this text...  --  AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  00:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm going to look at both Existing Java-categorized articles and New Java-categorized articles and see what I can do, and I added my initials to the list. I think I could also be useful trying to fix some of the WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing problems as well. The articles in WikiProject_Java/New_articles however are about subjects I don't really know anything about, so I'd rather leave them to someone else. Hope this is OK, and we should co-ordinate the cleanup list of articles so I don't start working on something someone else is working on, I guess?  — M3TA  (  info  ) @  21:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, go for it! As far as cleanup is concerned, here's the deal:
 * WolterBot is slow to update, so the WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing page is not totally current;
 * Before addressing the Java BIGTOP, I will be working on these articles: JAX-RS, Mobile_Information_Device_Profile, Erich_Gamma, TTCC, JavaServer_Pages, List_of_Java_keywords, Java_Transaction_API, Java_Metadata_Interface, Restlet, Java:_View_Technologies_and_Frameworks;
 * Also I did most of the sections below, the rest is fair game: Articles containing how-to sections Articles needing sections Articles that include images for deletion Articles to be merged Articles with dead external links Articles with disputed statements Articles with minor POV problems Articles with obsolete information Articles with specifically-marked weasel-worded phrases Pages with incomplete DOI references Wikipedia articles needing clarification. Bye now, --  AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK I'll leave you the List_of_Java_keywords since I see you began work on it today. But please go all the way so as to be able to remove the two warning tags. Thanks, -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  03:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi again Andrew. I see you did some valuable work related to the Java Cleanup Listing issues; I therefore took the liberty of moving your initials on the to_do page from the New articles task. Now if WolterBot can raise from the dead..., we should soon see some fruit from what we do. Keep up the good work! -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  21:22, 27
 * Not sure where to ask about this, but if you look at how I've changed MIDlet you'll see I got rid of the huge chunk of Java code. I think, for instance Xlet ought to get the same treatment, we shouldn't just have code in an article, that belongs in a book or howto. At the moment I'm getting on with the cleanup of articles that require citations and references, but it's slow going. Also, s there a general discussion page for this project?  — M3TA  (  info  ) @  07:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as code is concerned, I agree with you... up to a point. Looking at that Xlet article, I think the interface list would be 'bookish' (I'm not EN so pardon any crazy neologisms I could come up with...), while the example would be the one to keep. Is that your feeling? More generally speaking, you'll observe that there are Java articles with FAR more code than that and I think the difficulty in that eventual 'cleanup' would be to keep the worthwhile efforts of over-enthusiastic Wikipedians somewhere. Accessorily, there IS a Java Wikibook (however imperfect it is), the link of which is now at the end of the Java Portal. -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  19:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously I missed Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Java  — M3TA  (  info  ) @  07:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's valuable to group project discussions, especially as we are a young project that still tries to define how to go about things. However I realize with your comment that something I did was not clear enough. Thus observe the new Java Cafe link. Keep up the good work! -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  19:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see you're into JME. So contrary to what I sais previously, I will leave you the 'Mobile Information Device Profile' article. Bye now, -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  00:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Small note: I'm not entirely sure how this works, but I think, since it is said 'This is an automatically generated cleanup listing', that your edits on page WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing are not so valuable; the next time WolterBot goes on, they could be wiped out... If you absolutely want to document your Cleanup edits, I would suggest maybe the 'Done things' section of page Things you can do. -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  00:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia book
Honestly, if it's a new book that hasn't itself been reviewed by anyone, I would say it should be deleted until such time as it is recognized by independent sources. I don't think it's enough to say that "Criticism of Wikipedia seems like an important subject." Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 17:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * What constitutes 'sufficient' reviews, then? Would the author speaking at a relevant conference on the books subject not be relevant for notability? I'm not sure what harm it does to keep it there, now, since the article does now have references and link to reviews added, particularly given the caveat about academic book notability in the guidelines.  — M3TA  info  @  18:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, the conference hasn't happened yet and won't for almost 2 months. Further, that might indicate some notability for the author, but not necessarily for his book.  And "it doesn't hurt anything" is not a good reason to avoid deletion -- I have to deal with that argument from dozens of high school kids.  Obviously this is not the same kind of thing, but this is why we have to go by the guidelines regarding external sources.  NawlinWiki (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Surely this is what a stub article is for, then? I have now tagged it as such, so why not leave it like that, and allow further refernces and citations to be added as and when they occur? This way, there is a place to add them, at least, right? I'm not trying to troll or anything here, I really want to contribute useful articles to Wikipedia, and this seems valid.  —  M3TA  (  info  ) @  20:14, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

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Reviewing it
We'd love to have a review of this for the Signpost. I think Thespian isn't planning on doing this any more, so it's all yours. If you're definitely going to review it, I'll probably request a review copy for myself so that I can offer useful feedback once you have a draft ready. Let me know.--ragesoss (talk) 15:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

1. What, when and where is that March academic conference on Wikipedia where the author will speak? 2. Could you e-mail me (use the "E-mail this user" link on my talk page) about a review copy? Book reviews are one of the things I do on the side. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

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Done  — M3TA  (  info  ) @  20:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Done  — M3TA  (  info  ) @  20:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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noticed the RfD on the O'Sullivan book
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Speedy deletion of minor planets articles
You need to notify the articles creator when nominating an article for deletion. I don't really understand your reasoning in the first place. Also, the user that created them has over 320,500 edits and, thus, presumably knows what they are doing. -- John Reaves 04:28, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I was trying to fix an issue with old pages still showing up in the category index for minor planet names. The lists of names are all in blocks of 500 for minor planets numbered under 10,000, so the pages for e.g. 5001-6000 that simply include the two pages for 5001-5500 and 5501-6000 are redundant and can be deleted. Additionally, for some reason the 3001-3500 block is split into groups of 100, which I had copied to the 3001-3500 page instead of the include directives, and then deleted the content from the 3001-3100 etc.pages to prevent duplication and confusion. I have notified User talk:Kwamikagami about this.  — M3TA  info  (  view  )  04:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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Vita
Sweets, I'm in the middle of a day of editing the Vita article. Could you wait for tweaks until I've had done? It gets very confusing if two editors are working at the same time. I do appreciate your work but have read through for errors in my new work yet. Best wishes Anna (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. I'm just a regular pleb with no great tech skill and dodgy eyesight. Your work and skill on the page is very much appreciated. I've finished for the week (at least) as my eyes have given up. Anna (talk) 14:27, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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