User talk:MarnetteD/archive49

Latest IP
Needless to say, if that was a registered editor they'd be blocked indef. If the person behind IP shows up again then they should be re-blocked. --Neil N  talk to me 04:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info . I wasn't the only editor that was on the receiving end of their wrath. Mine was an interesting mix of this film and this one. Enjoy your Sunday. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:54, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It's already happened, see Sockpuppet investigations/Tornatore2007. Sro23 (talk) 04:56, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Robert Altman, Trey Parker (Horror film directors)
Category:Horror film directors Definition This category lists film directors who directed at least one horror film. (Jkrn111 (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC))

Young Frankenstein (comedy horror), Mel Brooks as horror film director
Comedy horror is a subgenre of horror.(Jkrn111 (talk) 17:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)).


 * Please read WP:CATDEF. In particular "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having" - One film in the genre does not meet the criteria for inclusion in the category. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello ! Please read the definition of this category. It is clear. Have a nice day! (Jkrn111 (talk) 18:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)).


 * The definition is in violation of the category policy and needs to be changed. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

BBC America
Ad nauseum is right!! -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  18:48, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I forgot to write ad infinitum :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OMG, yes!!! -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  23:34, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Stealing your text shadow code, lol. Gatemansgc (talk) 21:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not? I stole it, too!!  -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  21:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Just like everything in my userpage, since I have no coding ability. Gatemansgc (talk) 22:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

That IP really does not like you...
O_o Gatemansgc (talk) 21:25, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all the assistance MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Not a problem, lol. I like helping. Gatemansgc (talk) 22:08, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Torchwood
MD, I just added Torchwood back to the BBC America article. They marathoned it last weekend, then ran the first five or six episodes this morning, so it appears it's back, at least for a little while. I wonder if they'll be running the season from Starz before long. -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  19:23, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks . If my memory isn't too messed up I think they did show it at least once sometime in the last couple years so maybe they will again. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I was trying to remember whether they did or not. I saw a little of it, but ugh!  I've heard a rumor or two that it's going back into production, possible direct-to-video.  We'll see what news bubbles up at Comic-Con! -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  19:29, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The premise was interesting but the US producers seemed to be trying to turn to turn Torchwood into 24. I enjoyed seeing John de Lancie and Nana Visitor again but their characters (among many others) came and went so fast that - if you blinked - you missed them :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:35, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on
This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Village pump (policy)

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:


 * 15 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:


 * 31 December 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes.

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


 * A) I have already posted there. B) I wish you had worded the title of the thread in more neutral manner. The current wording is problematic to say the least. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, - this could be seen as WP:CANVASSING. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Is this the sort of thing you like to do?
There are four rounds of "External links modified" on Talk:Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. Do you have any interest in checking them? I'm trying to improve the clutter on the page to facilitate whatever discussions are currently going on (someone brought up a dispute on ANI, but that was the wrong venue). I started an archiving which should kick in soon, but it won't touch the "ELs modified" sections because they are too new. It would be great if you could heck them all and OK them, if that's something you still enjoy. Cheers and stay cool, Softlavender (talk) 04:37, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . I only found three EL modified threads. The first and third worked fine and I've marked them as such. When you click on the second one at first it goes to a wayback page and then, after a few moments, goes to a encyclopedia.com page that lists their articles with Middleton in the title. I don't think that is helpful as a reference but I could be wrong. If you click on the "Please take a moment to review my edit" it will show you which reference the bot modified. You might be able to replace that ref with something better. This pretty much exhausts my knowledge of how these work so if it isn't enough to get things where you want them you could try the help desk. Ten days ago the temps were roasting but we had a cold front move through last Friday and the weekend was pleasant. They've risen again be we are getting clouds each afternoon that cool things off so it is tolerable. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 05:21, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Forgot to mention that if you do replace that reference then you can just remove that EL thread from the talk page. The sandman is calling so I'll see anything you post tomorrow. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 05:25, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Nighty night. That was perfect. It looks as if another editor had already cleaned out that encyclopedia.com reference entirely (for good cause), as evidenced by the thread at the bottom of the TP talking about poor references. Thanks for the help! A friend of mine in Boulder mentioned to me a week ago that it was "too hot to go out". I am astonished that it gets that hot in Boulder and Denver (I think last year you said it was 90 degrees when I spoke to you about War & Peace), especially since you are up at an elevation. I'm guessing climate change has not helped! Softlavender (talk) 05:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for Kurosawa
Thanks for your comments and many edits at the Kurosawa article. After the GA passed, I have nominated it as an FA candidate and thought to ask if you could stop by once in a while at the assessment page and possibly leave comments as might be needed from time to time given your strong experience in editing Kurosawa's biography. The current article could not have taken its present shape without your many helpful edits. JohnWickTwo (talk) 00:31, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message AND your work on his article . I will be happy to offer my thoughts. This weekend is a bit hectic but I will get there :-) Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 05:35, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Fumio Hayasaka was a co-writer of the script for the film and of the music for the film, maybe you could add this image to the article in production instead? JohnWickTwo (talk) 02:43, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . The description says it was taken before 56 so it just might work with for a film released in 55. Also he is mentioned in the production section (though it could use a reference if you can find one) and that is another plus. I know I've seen and read interviews with AK that mention how his death had an effect on those working on the film. If you can find any info about that it would cinch its use for me. Even without that it should just meet the policy guidelines. I really wish that a pic of Mifune from the film was available - his makeup is amazing and is totally unique in his films with AK. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Nice of you to look at those edits. Recently, I was asked to close a GAN by the nominator at 13 Assassins (2010 film) which was a film made in the Seven Samurai tradition. The editor there appears to be upset about it and now seems to be making simultaneous retributions edits at Ran because of my involvement there. I then asked the editor to use the Talk page there to list his cite requests or to use individual cite templates in the article which did not help the retribution situation. Could you glance at Ran in case I am missing something. JohnWickTwo (talk) 16:49, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . I have taken a look and my reply is based on my twelve+ years here at WikiP. One of the things about AGF is that you have to apply it even when the situation seems doesn't seem right to you. In this case you put yourself in an awkward spot by putting your thoughts about retribution in your first post in the thread that they started on the Ran talk page. The tough thing is that it has allowed them to take a mocking attitude in their post an that is always a hard thing to deal with. IMO at this point in time you would have a tough time convincing any admin regarding retaliation. Whether that is part of their motivation or not something like that only shows itself if the same thing occurs over a significant number of articles. As to the specifics of the Ran article the sources that are already there are good - or maybe it would be better to say a good start. There are many statements that, though interesting and well thought out, could use references to back them up. That editor has pointed out a few of them. My default in this kind of situation is to remember that WikiP is a collaborative project. I would ask for input from other members of the filmproject. They may agree with you or with the other editor - you just have to let the chips fall where they may. Now I know that my post is not what you wanted to read and probably adds to your frustrations. I can only offer my apologies for that but I wouldn't be doing you any favors if I tried to sugar coat things. Please hang in there and keep working to improve WikiP's articles. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:10, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments in the above. Regarding the Kurosawa FAC, there has been a final call from sysops for final support and oppose indications if you have a chance to visit the FAC page. JohnWickTwo (talk) 23:26, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks so much . You did the heavy listing getting all the reports filed so I am glad to have been able help in any way that I could. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

EWS undo to my edit
I don't know why a careful and brief addition to a plot summary of a lengthy and complicated film should be insta-undone just on the basis of succinctness. the structure of EWS has parallel elements like meeting domino once then meeting her roommate the next day. not mentioning the second element makes for a less useful and less interesting article. cheers

Myfavoriteboxer (talk) 05:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC) 


 * It wasn't brief. Please read WP:FILMPLOT. Also note that one you start trying explain things like "parallel elements" you are moving into the area of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Now I am not saying that your thoughts about the film are wrong - it is just that they do not belong in an encyclopedia. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The plot summary is too lengthy as it is and needs serious trimming. &#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones  ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 16:51, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You are correct . Thanks for mentioning this. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:25, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Disruptive IP editor
I noticed you reverted some edits by. I'm familiar with this IP editor, and I've been reverting this person's disruption for probably around a year now. You can read a little about my tribulations at User:NinjaRobotPirate/Socks, where I've labeled this editor "the Malaysian title changer". At first, the IP editor performed cut-and-paste moves to change article titles, but later behavior involves replacing links with redirects to the desired title. These sometimes instead go to disambiguation pages or are redlinks. The ranges used are usually in the 1.32, 60.49 through 60.55, 115.133, 175.144 ranges, and the geolocation is always to Malaysia. Let me know if you have trouble with this IP editor, especially cut-and-paste moves. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info . I think I bumped into this one at least once before but some of them are starting to blend together. I'll be sure to let you know if they pop up again. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 12:26, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:12 Monkeys
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:12 Monkeys. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

RfA

 * You are most welcome . The fact that you care enough to message each of us who took part in your RFA is an example of while you will be a fine admin. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:05, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Jodie Whittaker on her other doctor role in Trust Me
Hi M, I have just watched a trailer for this. It starts on BBC One on Tuesday, August 8. I expect you will be seeing it on BBC America &#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 14:45, 26 July 2017 (UTC) No, I missed Remember me and on your recommendation shall try to watch it on demand. &#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 18:01, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up . I'll keep an eye out for it. Sadly BBCA airs only a few programmes from the UK anymore but it may show up on our PBS station - or I can get the DVD when it becomes available. Did you see Remember Me (TV series)? PBS is showing it now and it is a cracker of a ghost story. I hope you are well and thanks again. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:49, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear about your reduction in UK programmes from BBCA; seems odd and I am wondering why.

Reflist
Now auto responsive to width. So forced number of columns no longer needed. Best Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 19:59, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ack - brain freeze on my part . Thanks for the reminder. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

RIP RH
Robert Hardy passed away today. So many wonderful performances that I could fill my talk page with links to their articles. I had actually heard him long before I saw him onscreen. I still own this record where he voiced Robin Hood. Thank you Mr Hardy for all the memorable characters that you gave life to. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:41, 3 August 2017 (UTC) At that time, we only had two tv channels in the UK. Then BBC2 was launched on 21 April 1964, and soon we had colour tv here – but on that channel only. The seventh (and final series) of The Troubleshooters was in colour on BBC1. Wishing you a lovely weekend! &#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 08:28, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes,M, a truly great actor. I first watched him as Alec Stewart for four years on monochrome BBC (1966-70) as the ruthlessly ambitious "troubleshooter" keen to rise up the promotional ladder in The Troubleshooters (titled Mogul for the first series). He shared the starring role with Geoffrey Keen and Ray Barrett.
 * Thank you for sharing your memories . I hope that you have a delightful weekend as well. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 14:59, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Zerai Deres
Hello, just to inform you I finished my major editing about Zerai Deres. Since I'm not a mother-tongue speaker, could you help me to check out the article and correct my broken english? Thank you so much in advance! If you need and info more, please ping me here. --Holapaco77 (talk) 03:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello You have put some work into the article. I need to let you know that my time on WikiP is limited for the next several days. I will try and see what I can do. Perhaps some of my talk page watchers can help but they may be busy as well. You can also ask for assistance at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:50, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Miramax
Category:Miramax films Specifically includes films distributed by Miramax. Dimadick (talk) 16:03, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It shouldn't be . A) the policy at WikiProject Film/Categorization is crystal clear about this and B) WP:CATDEF is also clear that cats need to be a defining feature of the film - the distributor of a film is not defining in any way shape manner or form. If you feel that either of those polices should be changed you will need to start a conversation and/or a RFC at the appropriate talk page. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:12, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

As far as I know, all company-related film categories include the distributors. WikiProject Film can not unilaterally change a years-long policy. Dimadick (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * A) Not all of those cats include distributors and those that do should not. B) the links I have provided are "years long policies." C) Even if they weren't you should be aware that WP:CONSENSUSCANCHANGE. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Not to mention a lot of the edits involving your inclusion of Miramax films are unsourced (against WP:RS and WP:OR) and adding them to the list of production companies or distributors in the infobox goes against WP:FilmDist. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Main Page comment
I hope my comment was ok. I had to hold myself back quite a bit there... Some people just... cannot even put it in words (or rather should not). There is a very fitting german term for people acting the like called "Fremdschämen", which roughly translates as feeling ashamed of somebody elses embarassing act or something along those lines. Have a good day/evening anyway. 91.49.82.213 (talk) 22:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your post 91. As far as I am concerned there was no problem with your comment. As I noted your post was very well said. IMO the thread should have been removed before anyone replied as there were serious BLP violations in it but such is life, Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:56, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright then, just did not want to be too harsh/uncivil even if deserved. I was thinking about pointing out further flaws in the "argument" of the OP, but... cannot discuss with people like that anyway and it was nigh impossible to make the "argument" look even worse. But anyway, no need to dwell on it any further then. And totally agree that removal was best way to deal with it for numerous reasons, not that anything even needs my approval, but as an IP i would have probably been reverted without a thought had i removed it myself, so i didn't. Always have to be mindful of things like that as an IP lol. Anyway, have a good one. 91.49.71.117 (talk) 00:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Walker County Jane Doe
Hi my dear friend. Can you give Walker County Jane Doe a proofread/NPOV check, please? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 22:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . It looks good. I gave it a once over and made a few small changes but they are cosmetic and if you don't like them please feel free to change back. I wonder if it would be beneficial to add the dates of when the pics of the reconstruction were done. Whichever one was done first may have had an effect on the later one. Now this is just me and other readers may not care at all. I'll try to do another slower scan later this weekend. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 23:33, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , Yeah i look forward to you combing through the article. Someone once asked me why i care so much about cold case victims and i said "Someone has to". Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 07:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay I had more time today. I made a couple more small changes. Otherwise it reads well to my eyes. But I am only one editor and I invite any of my talk page watchers who are interested to take a look and bring their skills to the article. I can't thank you enough for giving voice to those who can't speak for themselves. You are to be commended for your efforts. Regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:49, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm sort of disgusted with some media articles on the Walker Country Jane Doe case that felt the need to state that she was "attractive" and "very beautiful", something they wouldn't do with a male victim. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 11:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

David Threlfall
Hi M. I just watched Conspiracy (2001), and was particularly drawn to the actor David Threlfall. He reminded me of Alan Howard, and perhaps a few other British actors. Anyway, do you know anything about him and can you recommend further viewing with him? Softlavender (talk) 09:04, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed Paradise Postponed on tv way back in 1986, and it is available in the UK from Amazon in box set. Fantastic cast and well worth watching. &#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones  ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 09:18, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, Gareth! I will definitely check that out. :) Softlavender (talk) 09:41, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * That series is my top choice as well - thanks for recommending it  It is outstanding. The sequel Titmuss Regained is good though it doesn't reach the heights of PP. Threlfall features in it prominently. I know that it is on DVD here in the US but I don't know if it ever got a UK release. He was a main character in the 4th season of Ripper Street but I don't think that series would be your cup of tea S. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 11:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks very much. :) Softlavender (talk) 11:37, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay here are a few more to recommend. A Murder of Quality (film) is a nice adaptation of John le Carré's novel. He is also good in Nowhere Boy. This is my favorite of The Beatle's bio pics - to date anyway :-) If you can find it the DVD release of The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby (play) should be on your list. His performance as Smike is riveting and, in a cast replete with wonderful and extraordinary actors, he really stands out. It is long but you don't have to watch it in one go. OTOH I have tried to recreate what it would have been like to see it live a couple times. You take a 20 (or maybe it is 30 - I forget) minute break between acts one and three and a ninety minute dinner break after act two. A nice way to spend a long winters night - but I know that you don't have those :) If you want a follow up to Conspiracy look for The Wannsee Conference by Mark Roseman. Although it is a quick read it is both a well researched and written account of that chilling event. There is also a set of pictures of the real life principals which you can compare with the actors who played them if you ever watch it again. I hope you enjoy searching out these performances by Mr Threlfall. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:07, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have read and enjoyed A Murder of Quality but not seen, or knew of,the (tv) film ... but what a cast! Thanks M. Must try and get it.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 20:31, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It is a great cast . Denholm Elliot doesn't try to emulate Guinness which is a wise move on his part. I think he is a vastly underrated actor. You might want to copy and save this treat for December. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Playing it now, but will stop soon and save it. Thank you so much for bringing it to my notice.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 21:12, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

You are very welcome G. It has become a Xmas tradition for me. I also enjoy reading the source material aloud on Christmas Eve :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:16, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, both, for the additional info. I have put the films on my Watch list. The play is forbidding in its length and price; I do vividly remember when it was running on Broadway though, as I lived in Manhattan throughout the 1980s. "Chilling" is indeed the word that kept coming to me when watching Conspiracy (2001). I now remember one of the other actors that David Threlfall reminds me of a bit along with Alan Howard: Edward Fox. Although I have not yet seen it, I already have A Child's Christmas in Wales on my Amazon Prime watchlist for Christmas viewing. :) Softlavender (talk) 02:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * You are welcome S. I'm glad that you have memories of when the play was in your part of the world. I'll keep hoping that it shows up to where you can stream it someday. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:02, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have just added (your link above) A Child's Christmas in Wales to my Watchlist. Wishing you both a great week!&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 10:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * ... and this for re- her latest edit summary here.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones  ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 12:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes follows automatically.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 12:57, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, can I dive in? Conspiracy is truly scary. I'm not sure what's worse; that it really happened, or that Mr. Bates, Mr. Darcy and Hamlet had something to do with it. What a cast, and in roles we rarely see many of them in. What blows my mind is how Stanley Tucci wound up as Eichmann. Did anyone notice who the young, then-unknown telephone operator is? -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  16:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It was Loki. Always interesting to see extraordinary actors in early roles. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:23, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That was the problem I had with watching the film – that none of the actors at the table except Threlfall and Barnaby Kay (Kay looked and acted very German), and at most one or two of the others, seemed even remotely German to me. The principals didn't seem German in the least; Branagh was just Branagh, reciting Shakespeare; Firth was just baby-faced adorable vintage Firth; Tucci was comically Italian-American; and Brendan Coyle was just Mr. Bates. It spoiled the illusion for me. There are innumerable acting tricks to make oneself seem another nationality, but very few to none of them employed any. I don't know if this was bad casting or bad acting (yes I know Branagh won an Emmy or whatever and his delivery and attitude were fine but still). Or perhaps it was deference to German viewers not to make the thing seem like an awful caricature of the German people as a whole. But in this day and age I expect actors playing a particular nationality to seem like they really are that nationality. Goddammit. Softlavender (talk) 21:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I've gotten so used to the British accent being generic European in films that I didn't have that problem, and I knew every actor at the table. And the performances were exceptional.  Tucci wisely didn't try to play British, but was so understated that he blended in.  I'm not sure who's scariest: him, Branagh or Firth.  -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  07:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Part of my problem may have been that I watched it over the course of two days instead of in one go. I started watching it after 11 PM so about 3/4 through I was falling asleep and had to stop. When I picked it back up the next night, whatever illusion I may have grown used to that these people were really German was dashed, and it was just Brits at a tea party. I think the excellent script carried it through, but even it had some problems (Eichmann had a tummy upset -- even though he ate nothing? Schubert's Quintet in C Major Adagio breaks Heydrich's heart? Unless these were parts of the historical record I thought both of those things were laying it on a bit thick.) Softlavender (talk) 07:42, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Eclipse
Did you manage to get to see the eclipse, or were you too far south? Apparently Colorado got better than 80% totality, although nowhere in the state saw the total eclipse. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2017 (UTC) PS Why have a thumbnail when you can have the whole hand?&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 10:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It was only partial in my neck of the woods . I used the piece of paper with a pinhole (talk about low tech) to see the chunk of the sun that Fenric had eaten :-) Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:36, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I attempted to see the Solar eclipse of August 11, 1999 by making a day trip from home, in order to avoid hotel prices which were unseasonally high because of the eclipse (the band of totality cut right across one of Britain's most popular holiday regions, right at the peak holiday time of the year, so hotel owners could ask crazily-high prices and still be fully booked). At the time, I was living at Stonehouse, Gloucestershire and found that by getting the first train of the day (around 06:00) and changing trains twice, I could reach Kingswear railway station with thirty minutes to spare. This station is at the end of a branch line, and the southernmost station in Devon; it was inside the band of totality by about ten miles. To get further inside that band, I would have had to travel much further west, into Cornwall - which would have needed an overnight stay. Unfortunately, it clouded over five minutes before maximum totality so the best I saw was a thin crescent. But it did get very dark. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:00, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Argh - darn those clouds. An eclipse darkness is different and one of the unique things I've lived through. Seeing the aurora borealis when I lived in Alaska is another. Thanks for sharing that memory and for adding the links that help me to learn about the particulars involved. Much appreciated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I remember the Solar eclipse of June 30, 1954 when I was 12.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 10:00, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Gosh! Weren't most folk still scared of eclipses back then? Ah, I see you up there, G! --Hillbillyholiday (talk) 10:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding your memories . Those pics are great ! I think I recognize Gareth. Jackets and ties to watch the eclipse - those were different times :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, bottom left; I recognise the footware.&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 17:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * NASA set up a Flickr group for people to submit their photos to. It's really quite enjoyable to scroll through:, including this quick time-lapse video of a crowd of people which shows it really getting dark as night: . -- Softlavender (talk) 07:13, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We had viewing stations set up where I work, which was great fun. There was a nice sun spot on view when I got there, and we were at about 70% coverage, which created this weird brownish sunlight. -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  07:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Titus Andronics
Hi there sir, would you be so kind as to take a quick look at the Titus Andronicus page when you get a chance. Two users are removing info which I personally feel is relevant, and I'd like a second pair of eyes on it. When you get a second. Cheers. Bertaut (talk) 20:57, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops, appears there is a second set of eyes. Well, I'd still appreciate your finely honed opinion on it, lest it degenerate into an edit war. Bertaut (talk) 21:00, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We will see what happens next . The remover is over the limit but unfortunately so is 5A. Regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Funny thing is, the editor who started all this isn't involved at the moment, although he did send me a PM, which I answered. Nothing about the edit war, he was just basically wondering what the basis for undoing his original edit was. So, yeah, we'll see what happens. Thanks for the assist in any case. Bertaut (talk) 21:39, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I know that there are editors that find these cultural references to be anathema though that may not be the case this time. Feel free to add to the thread on the talk page. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism on August 20
You said on the Help Desk the IP was blocked. Actually, the IP was warned. But it was the "only warning".— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:30, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * A) I'm not sure why you are posting about this. B) I'm not sure why you couldn't provide a link so that I wouldn't have to waste time hunting for this. C) The log for the IP clearly shows a block with talk page access removed on Aug 20th which is why I posted the reply on that thread. Please make sure of your facts before activating the red ping and "lobod" on my talk page in the future. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:20, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I thought I checked everything. There was nothing on the talk page indicating a block, but when I looked again, a block was requested.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:27, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries . There are so many different things to check around here and I am forgetting them all the time. I hope that you have a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:31, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with blocking procedure but I thought every block came with a message on the talk page. I don't know if someone forgot to do something. I thought I double-checked the log but I guess not.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:34, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * That may have been the case in the past but I've seen numerous blocks without them this decade. Especially when the editing is as trollish as this IPs was. Regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:41, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The act of blocking and the sending of a message have always been separate actions. Tools like Twinkle make it easy to do both together, but it's not mandatory. I have blocked several users and not messaged them about it, in almost all cases they were serial disruptors who hop to another IP. Consider the blocks that I've imposed in the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Redrose64&offset=20170526000000&dir=prev&limit=5 last three months]: I sent a talk page message to just one of them (the earliest); of the others, the three most recently blocked are clearly the same person. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:04, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Lark Rise to Candleford
So, you're reading Lark Rise to Candleford now; the setting for the stories is about ten miles east of where I grew up. Did you manage to catch the TV drama series at all? I saw almost every episode. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:45, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Fun to know . I saw all but two episodes from series two. On Amazon UK the boxed set of all 4 series is only 20 pounds so it will be heading my way later this week :-) Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 12:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Joanne Harris
I have read and much enjoyed several of her novels, but not the one you just finished and clearly enjoyed. I must read it. I know that you are a long way from Texas; even so, have you felt any disturbance from Harvey? Wishing you a great Sunday!&#160;Cheers! Gareth&#160;Griffith&#8209;Jones ( The Welsh Buzzard ) 10:49, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . The storm hasn't touched us. Whew. The book is an interesting read. The first part follows a group of traveling entertainers in early 1600s France. It brought to mind this film Molière (1978 film) about the playwright. The first half recounts his years with a group of actors as they may their way through rural France. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday as well as the week ahead! MarnetteD&#124;Talk 13:00, 27 August 2017 (UTC)